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As a major representative of the Birthday Party, which has been excluded from the NS General Election on unjust grounds, I here by call upon all right mindeds people to smash cakes and pies into election officials faces, and otherwise engage in protrest appropriate to the nature of the Birthday Party, until our party is rightfully acknowledged!

Another pie ion the face for Ariddia:

http://www.mctague.org/carl/fun/pie/pie-face-2.jpg

I protest too!

The decision to hold another election should have been decided by the Parliament, not just Arridia. This was obviously just an attempt to get more votes for the UDCP by holding an election out of the blue.

This is like a defendant getting to "re-roll" his jury until he gets one he likes.

I protest too!

The decision to hold another election should have been decided by the Parliament, not just Arridia. This was obviously just an attempt to get more votes for the UDCP by holding an election out of the blue.

This is like a defendant getting to "re-roll" his jury until he gets one he likes.

So...you're protesting about an imaginary party getting more votes from an imaginary parliament in an imaginary election on a political forum?

TO THE BARRICADES!

I protest too!

The decision to hold another election should have been decided by the Parliament, not just Arridia. This was obviously just an attempt to get more votes for the UDCP by holding an election out of the blue.

This is like a defendant getting to "re-roll" his jury until he gets one he likes.


Thank you! Please smash a pie or cake in the face of Arridia or engage in another protest action you fell is appropriate.

So...you're protesting about an imaginary party getting more votes from an imaginary parliament in an imaginary election on a political forum?

TO THE BARRICADES!


Better yet: smash an imaginary pie or cake in the face of the imaginary election officials. It hurts no real person, but works perfectly well into the election RP and especially into my party's theme.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=473476

As a major representative of the Birthday Party, which has been excluded from the NS General Election on unjust grounds, I here by call upon all right mindeds people to smash cakes and pies into election officials faces, and otherwise engage in protrest appropriate to the nature of the Birthday Party, until our party is rightfully acknowledged!

Another pie ion the face for Ariddia:



Well I'm outraged.

As a sign of my disapproval I'm going to boycott this whole charade.

So...you're protesting about an imaginary party getting more votes from an imaginary parliament in an imaginary election on a political forum?

TO THE BARRICADES!

You're certainly imagining that I'm protesting.

Well I'm outraged.

As a sign of my disapproval I'm going to boycott this whole charade.

That's a good choice. I took it the first couple times around. But fucking with the mod sanctioned oh so serious popularity contest is kinda fun. :D:cool:

I felt the same way when my "Beer and Boobies" party was rejected some time ago.

Oh, wait, maybe I never actually suggested it. But the fact remains, I certainly should have. *nods*

So, if I agree with Arridia, I get pie....


YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN KEPT OUT YOU MANIFESTO FOOLS !!!!!



*waits for pie*

I felt the same way when my "Beer and Boobies" party was rejected some time ago.

Oh, wait, maybe I never actually suggested it. But the fact remains, I certainly should have. *nods*


Hell YEAH!

Valori, you know youy deserve it.

I felt the same way when my "Beer and Boobies" party was rejected some time ago.

Oh, wait, maybe I never actually suggested it. But the fact remains, I certainly should have. *nods*

If you do I'll vote for it.

Beer and Boobies FTW!

Shocking, the self perpetuation of an undemocratic institution that claims to represent the posters of NS. If they were really so sure of their mandate then they would have included a RON option. Pssh, I bet the only people who bother to vote are the people affliated with their respective parties.

It's high time we had a poster's hero to lead General a rebellion against this unjust institution.

Vote RON for re-open nominations!

http://www.activedistribution.org/images/badges/144-Don't-Vote.gif

Hell YEAH!

Valori, you know you deserve it.

Then where is my pie :mad:.

Then where is my pie :mad:.

You'll get yours on the main election thread!

http://www.activedistribution.org/images/badges/144-Don't-Vote.gif

Too late! :D

That's a good choice. I took it the first couple times around. But fucking with the mod sanctioned oh so serious popularity contest is kinda fun. :D:cool:

The best thing about popularity is that I'm not popular :( :D




:edit: see one post down ;)

The worst thing about popularity is that I'm not popular :( :D

You misspelled the word "best". ;)

Shocking, the self perpetuation of an undemocratic institution that claims to represent the posters of NS.

And what's so undemocratic about it?


If they were really so sure of their mandate then they would have included a RON option.


I'm not going to re-open nominations. The rules were clearly stated, and repeated several times.

Also, three things.

1. A poll has only ten options. Had there been more than ten parties competing, I would have found some way to spread things out. But with exactly ten parties, I wasn't going to spread them over two polls merely for the sake of a "none of the above" option. If you don't want to vote, say so in a post.

2. The percentages received by each party determine seats in Parliament. A "none of the above" option would mess that up. As in real life, only actual votes are counted.

3. I've offered several times to help create a Blank Party, which would serve as a "none of the above" option. MPs for the Blank Party would abstain from every vote in Parliament, thus representing voters who do not feel represented by any other party. So far, no-one has taken me up on the offer. I re-iterate it yet again. If you're serious about what you're saying, you'll help me formulate a manifesto for it, and make it a recognised party.


Pssh, I bet the only people who bother to vote are the people affliated with their respective parties.

Over 700 people voted in the first election. No party has a high enough membership to account for that. The UDCP is the party with the most members, but not even they are always active.

So...you're protesting about an imaginary party getting more votes from an imaginary parliament in an imaginary election on a political forum?

TO THE BARRICADES! i voted for the anarchist types but if there are barricades...

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http://www.childcancerfund.org/uploads/Pie_-_In_your_face.JPG
http://yacumc.org/camps/Pie_face.jpg
http://www.fbcathens.org/Ministries/Kings%20Kids/Pie%20in%20face%20comp.jpg

I say we have our own elections. With blackjack, and hookers.

I say we have our own elections. With blackjack, and hookers.
No, we should start a resistance to the NS General Assembly! Of course, we could elect who leads it and what it consists of, et cetera.

Ariddia, the stated threshold was the number of supporters, and that was "more than one person". Until you admit this party to the election, I will continue protesting in the stated manner.

No, we should start a resistance to the NS General Assembly! Of course, we could elect who leads it and what it consists of, et cetera.

That is basically what I suggested, except mine was better cos it had blackjack and hookers. Clearly you know nothing of pollytix :rolleyes:

That is basically what I suggested, except mine was better cos it had blackjack and hookers. Clearly you know nothing of pollytix :rolleyes:
How dare you insult my opinion?! *pies joo*
Meh, I was thinking more along the lines of martial resistance, kidnapping, black-mail, and drug dealing. :( :p ;)

http://911dj.com/images/children/pie-in-the-face-3.jpg

As protests continue, the human rights toll worsens.

In answer to charges of corruption on behalf of Ariddia - who unilaterally disbanded the last Parliament in favor of this new election - apologists have merely dismissed the protests, with placards carrying quotes such as, "Deal with it," "Ariddia is our dictator, so deal with it," and "It's all fictional... deal with it."

Meanwhile, parties which seemed to be deliberately excluded from the election continue the protest even at the cost of many pies and many clean faces.

"It will take as long as it takes," said one anonymous rebel leader. "We have to finish the job!"

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Lacking money and pie making skills many protesters have resorted to throwing pi at election officials, as per the artists rendering above. This has baffled mathematicians.

Ariddia, the stated threshold was the number of supporters, and that was "more than one person". Until you admit this party to the election, I will continue protesting in the stated manner.

I've replied to that in the other thread. I'm sorry your party wasn't able to take part, but you can hardly blame me for that.

As protests continue, the human rights toll worsens.

"The horror, the horror..."

And what's so undemocratic about it?

I'm not going to re-open nominations. The rules were clearly stated, and repeated several times.

Also, three things.

1. A poll has only ten options. Had there been more than ten parties competing, I would have found some way to spread things out. But with exactly ten parties, I wasn't going to spread them over two polls merely for the sake of a "none of the above" option. If you don't want to vote, say so in a post.

2. The percentages received by each party determine seats in Parliament. A "none of the above" option would mess that up. As in real life, only actual votes are counted.

3. I've offered several times to help create a Blank Party, which would serve as a "none of the above" option. MPs for the Blank Party would abstain from every vote in Parliament, thus representing voters who do not feel represented by any other party. So far, no-one has taken me up on the offer. I re-iterate it yet again. If you're serious about what you're saying, you'll help me formulate a manifesto for it, and make it a recognised party.



Over 700 people voted in the first election. No party has a high enough membership to account for that. The UDCP is the party with the most members, but not even they are always active.Deluded self grandeur.

The publication of your elections, as with almost every election I've ever come across, relies far too heavily on people coming to you and not vice versa. Can you show me that a certain percentage of posters were aware of the elections? You could very well be the an elite proposing you represent the many.

You clearly have a bias towards a specific party which you have expressed in public yet you are part of the electoral proceedings. Can you show me where, if at all, an independent elections committee has been involved in making sure these elections are free and fair?

700 votes out of a population of how much? 700, 7,000 or +70,000? You don't even know the size of your own electorate. How can you hold any claim that the parliament is representative? For you all you know you could have gotten 700 votes out of 70 people with people casting multiple votes, since you have no way of preventing a person from getting a new nation to cast an additional vote.

If you have more parties than options for a poll then what is wrong with having run-offs with only the most voted for parties making it to the next stage of the election? With, of course, a RON option in the final poll to make sure that the electorate is happy with the parties that have made it to the final stage.

How come, in this election, that voters may vote in secret for a party. Yet if they do not like any of their parties and wish to make known their dislike of the parties, then they must declare this openly and not part of a secret ballot.

You won't have RON because it would muck up the percentages? This is a poor excuse. It's really not that hard to recalulate the percentages of votes cast. Or even more easily you could decide that a place in the parliament is awarded for every 50 votes. If there are more people voting then there more people to represent.

Your blank party does not equate to RON. And if gaining a majority in the parliament it would paralyse the parliament if decisons must be carried with +50% of all votes in the parliament, rather than an absolute majority. If an absolute majority is used then there is no point of a 'blank' party. RON would, instead, re-open the elections, so that the parliament wasn't paralysed by a huge block of abstaining votes. Besides, how hard would it be to create a blank party and put a proposal before the parliament that this party would be a candidate in future elections? The manifesto would be simply and would not need more than one person to write. It would also be ratified by parliament so it is clear that this is the view of the parliament, not just your view.

Fass has also made the point that this community is small enough to operate a direct democracy rather than a representative one.

Finally, I am disapointed that you refuted by call for RON with rules that you had set down. Don't you think this is rather autocratic? You derive your authority from being voted in by posters, yet some you have refused to allowed to be voted in the poll, nor have you allowed to vote for any other party that you have not sanctioned. This is quite simply undemocratic, selfagrandising and selfperpetuating. You have disenfrancised these posters.

There, I think I've made myself fairly clear, if only in a long winded way.

http://www.faceupstudio.com/blahg/archives/Blahg1006c.gif
Lacking money and pie making skills many protesters have resorted to throwing pi at election officials, as per the artists rendering above. This has baffled mathematicians.


I LOVE IT!!!!




:::Throws
http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/3/c/c/3cca05380343cb6f78d776d5e40b3a9d.png at Ariddia.:::

:::Throws
http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/3/c/c/3cca05380343cb6f78d776d5e40b3a9d.png at Ariddia.:::

This is starting to get violent.

This is starting to get violet.

That'd be ~ 430 to 380 nm, wouldn't it? ;):):D


(YES THAT'S EDITED FOR HUMOUROUS EFFECT!)

:edit: see one post down ;)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thumb

In answer to charges of corruption on behalf of Ariddia - who unilaterally disbanded the last Parliament in favor of this new election Ariddia did not disband the last Parliament unilaterally, the last Parliament disbanded itself by not passing any legislation. When a parliament cannot pass legislation, new elections are held. How would a non-functioning parliament have sanctioned the creation of a new parliament?