NationStates Jolt Archive

Just curious. :P

I don't see a poll.

Rabble! Rabble! Rabble! Rabble! Rabble! Rabble! Rabble! Rabble! Rabble! Rabble! Rabble!

Impatient, aren't we? :p

I suppose I'm a lefty Pragmato-Social Libertarian Humanist. So what do I click on the poll?

I've never heard of Labour before.

http://alemea.freecoolsite.com/NSGraph.swf

I suppose I'm a lefty Pragmato-Social Libertarian Humanist. So what do I click on the poll?


I can't put every conceivable option up there. Pick which one you feel the most attached to.

I'm a socialist, but a democratic socialist, like the NDP here in Canada.

So that would be "Liberal" in the USian sense, right? As in "bleeding heart liberal"?

But of Course...
TECHNOCRAT!

So that would be "Liberal" in the USian sense, right? As in "bleeding heart liberal"?


More like "Don't fuck with liberals or we'll repossess your house", liberal.

More like "Don't fuck with liberals or we'll repossess your house", liberal.
How about, which nation are you from Liberal? We need to know because the word Liberal changes from place to place.

I can't put every conceivable option up there. Pick which one you feel the most attached to.
Shouldn't the political compass scores give you a reasonable picture?

If not, try this one.
http://www.orgburo.com/pofoquiz/pofo.php

My result:
You scored 62 out of 100 on a scale of Individual vs Social. This means that politically you are more likely to value the need for group actions and group benefit over individual enterprise and benefit.

You scored 97 out of 100 on a scale of Theist vs Materialist. This means that politically you are more likely to believe that religion and spirituality are superstitions that should not inform political debate.

You scored 77 out of 100 on a scale of Big Government vs Small Government. This means that politically you are more likely to believe that government should keep out of legislating social policies, leaving such decisions to individuals.

You scored 97 out of 100 on a scale of Nationalist vs Internationalist. This means that politically you are more likely to favour international bodies over national ones.

You scored 97 out of 100 on a scale of Protectionist vs Free Trader. This means that politically you are more likely to favour free trade over protectionist policies.

You scored 73 out of 100 on a scale of Absolutist vs Non Absolutist. This means that politically you are less likely to believe that there is an absolute truth that may guide your ideological beliefs.

You scored 40 out of 100 on a scale of Controlled Market vs Liberal Market. This means that politically you are neither more nor less likely to believe that there is need for government regulation of industry.

You scored 50 out of 100 on a scale of Marxist vs Non-Marxist. This means that politically you are neither more nor less likely to follow the philosophies of Marx.

I have no problem being called a bleeding heart liberal, but it only bleeds for those truly deserving, not for everyone, which seems to be the perception. I lead from my heart, and i follow it, no doubt about it, but even though i don't hate anyone, i don't think everyone deserves my compassion.

I have no problem with capitalism either, i just don't think it necessarily has to go to the lengths it sometimes does. I believe in universal healthcare and education, i believe in medicaid and unemployment and employment insurance. I believe in social security and unions and minimum wage laws, etc. I also believe in the welfare system, but only for those who truly need it, i don't like people who abuse it anymore than anyone else does, and i do think the system needs to be reformed to do a better job of preventing that.

How about, which nation are you from Liberal? We need to know because the word Liberal changes from place to place.



Liberal in one's respective country. For example: I am an American liberal; but I happen to support the NDP in Canada.

Liberal in one's respective country. For example: I am an American liberal; but I happen to support the NDP in Canada.
That'll give you a pretty skewed picture.

"Liberal" in Germany: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freie_Demokratische_Partei
"Liberal" in Japan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Democratic_Party_%28Japan%29
"Liberal" in Australia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_of_Australia

Liberal in one's respective country. For example: I am an American liberal; but I happen to support the NDP in Canada.
Yeah, well, that won't work, seeing how outside the US liberal mostly is used in the classic sense.

But considering *your* usage of the word, and where it's placed in the poll, I'll just go with my first hunch that is does mean liberal in the USian sense and will proudly go off to vote accordingly. Bleeding heart and all. ;)

That'll give you a pretty skewed picture.

"Liberal" in Germany: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freie_Demokratische_Partei
"Liberal" in Japan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Democratic_Party_%28Japan%29
"Liberal" in Australia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_of_Australia

So noted; but, if you are a liberal, just mark it. The decision is up to you -- pick which one represents you best.

Liberal in one's respective country. For example: I am an American liberal; but I happen to support the NDP in Canada.
That will produce some bias results however. Some places Liberals want more economic freedom, other places more indivdual freedom, in the US neither:p. That causes some problems as in some places Liberal and Socialist could be the same thing, in other Liberal and Libertarian could be the same.

My political beliefs are... unique. It's tough to explain, so if you want to know, TG me.

I'm sort of leftish centrist.

That will produce some bias results however. Some places Liberals want more economic freedom, other places more indivdual freedom, in the US neither:p. That causes some problems as in some places Liberal and Socialist could be the same thing, in other Liberal and Libertarian could be the same.
See, it's so easy to explain. Why couldn't I think of this?

When it says small government, it is talking about with regards to social issues, such as abortion, homosexuality, etc. I am small government when it comes to that, i believe those things are about personal choice. I am big government though when it comes to the economy, to things such as environmental regulations, welfare, minimum wage, etc.

Overall, the PoliticsForum quiz considers you a materialist, small-government, non-absolutist, controlled-market kind of person.

These characteristics would put you in the overall category of borderline social liberal. Your natural home at PoliticsForum would be the Liberalism area.



Individual Social

You scored 57 out of 100 on a scale of Individual vs Social. This means that politically you are neither more nor less likely to value the need for group actions and group benefit over individual enterprise and benefit.

53% of test takers were more individual than you.
45% of test takers were more social than you.



Theist vs Materialist
"The materialist believes that all objective criteria to influence politics can be reasonably derived without recourse to the divine or the spiritual. The theist believes that spiritual beliefs are important and should influence government policy."


Theist Materialist

You scored 63 out of 100 on a scale of Theist vs Materialist. This means that politically you are more likely to believe that religion and spirituality are superstitions that should not inform political debate.

53% of test takers were more theist than you.
46% of test takers were more materialist than you.




Big Government vs Small Government
"The big government advocate believes that governments should be responsible for regulating a wide array of social practices, even what might be considered personal decisions such as abortion, euthanasia, children's education and births. A small government advocate thinks that, wherever possible, these issues should be up to individuals or companies to direct."


Big Gov Small Gov

You scored 71 out of 100 on a scale of Big Government vs Small Government. This means that politically you are more likely to believe that government should keep out of legislating social policies, leaving such decisions to individuals.

78% of test takers were more big government than you.
21% of test takers were more small government than you.



Nationalist vs Internationalist
"The nationalist believes in the sovereign rule of nation states, particularly his or her own. The internationalist believes that there should be more important international fora and perhaps, ultimately, international government."


National International

You scored 55 out of 100 on a scale of Nationalist vs Internationalist. This means that politically you are neither more nor less likely to favour international bodies over national ones.

39% of test takers were more nationalist than you.
60% of test takers were more internationalist than you.



Protectionist vs Free Trader
"The protectionist believes in barriers against free trade most probably due to a belief that this is in his or her country's interests. The free trader rejects such notions, believing that the system ultimately suffers when tariffs, subsidies and other obstacles to free trade persist."


Protection Free-Trade

You scored 59 out of 100 on a scale of Protectionist vs Free Trader. This means that politically you are neither more nor less likely to favour free trade over protectionist policies.

57% of test takers were more protectionist than you.
41% of test takers were more pro free trade than you.



Absolutist vs Non-Absolutist
"The absolutist believes that either a divine presence or scientific laws provide absolute truths about the world, which can and should be applied in practise. The non-absolutist may be either a relativist, or simply someone who is more pragmatic."


Absolute Non-Absolute

You scored 64 out of 100 on a scale of Absolutist vs Non Absolutist. This means that politically you are less likely to believe that there is an absolute truth that may guide your ideological beliefs.

73% of test takers were more absolutist than you.
24% of test takers were more non-absolutist than you.



Controlled Market vs Liberal Market
"Both of these categories assume a capitalist system. Assuming this system, the controlled market believer holds that government should intervene in regulating a nation's economy: wage laws, environmental standards, privatised industries and workplace relations policy. A liberal market thinker believes that such regulation is unnecessary and often counter-productive."


Controlled Liberal

You scored 22 out of 100 on a scale of Controlled Market vs Liberal Market. This means that politically you are more likely to believe that there is need for government regulation of industry.

21% of test takers were more controlled market thinkers than you.
78% of test takers were more liberal market thinkers than you.



Marxist vs Non-Marxist
"This scale purports to show to what extent you follow the thought and teachings of Marx. Marxists tend to be scientific, materialist and revolutionary, believe in class struggle and the laws of historical and dialectic materialism."


Marxist Non-Marxist

You scored 46 out of 100 on a scale of Marxist vs Non-Marxist. This means that politically you are neither more nor less likely to follow the philosophies of Marx.

43% of test takers were more Marxist than you.
54% of test takers were more non-Marxist than you.

See, it's so easy to explain. Why couldn't I think of this?
Was that sarcastic?

I think everyone knows by now that I'm a tree-hugging socialist liberal hippie.

I think everyone knows by now that I'm a tree-hugging socialist liberal hippie.
Um, I didn't

Um, I didn't

Oh ... well now you do ... and knowing is half the battle. :)

Oh ... well now you do ... and knowing is half the battle. :)
G.I. JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
There, I just ruined the thread spaceing for everyone:).

Was that sarcastic?
No, it wasn't! You really said exactly what I was trying to say but couldn't think of how to in a short & snappy kind of way. :)

Man, I should watch what I write, at this rate I'll never be able to stay logged off. Of course, maybe actually turning off the damn computer might help. *turns off*

No, it wasn't! You really said exactly what I was trying to say but couldn't think of how to in a short & snappy kind of way. :)

Man, I should watch what I write, at this rate I'll never be able to stay logged off. Of course, maybe actually turning off the damn computer might help. *turns off*
Upon further inpection, right you are ken. :)

Overall, the PoliticsForum quiz considers you a theist, protectionist, controlled-market kind of person.

These characteristics would put you in the overall category of social conservative protectionist.



You scored 58 out of 100 on a scale of Individual vs Social. This means that politically you are neither more nor less likely to value the need for group actions and group benefit over individual enterprise and benefit.

* 55% of test takers were more individual than you.
* 43% of test takers were more social than you.



You scored 16 out of 100 on a scale of Theist vs Materialist. This means that politically you are less likely to believe that religion and spirituality are superstitions that should not inform political debate.

* 3% of test takers were more theist than you.
* 96% of test takers were more materialist than you.



You scored 43 out of 100 on a scale of Big Government vs Small Government. This means that politically you are neither more nor less likely to believe that government should keep out of legislating social policies, leaving such decisions to individuals.

* 16% of test takers were more big government than you.
* 82% of test takers were more small government than you.



You scored 42 out of 100 on a scale of Nationalist vs Internationalist. This means that politically you are neither more nor less likely to favour international bodies over national ones.

* 19% of test takers were more nationalist than you.
* 80% of test takers were more internationalist than you.



You scored 22 out of 100 on a scale of Protectionist vs Free Trader. This means that politically you are less likely to favour free trade over protectionist policies.

* 8% of test takers were more protectionist than you.
* 91% of test takers were more pro free trade than you.



You scored 44 out of 100 on a scale of Absolutist vs Non Absolutist. This means that politically you are neither more nor less likely to believe that there is an absolute truth that may guide your ideological beliefs.

* 12% of test takers were more absolutist than you.
* 87% of test takers were more non-absolutist than you.



You scored 34 out of 100 on a scale of Controlled Market vs Liberal Market. This means that politically you are more likely to believe that there is need for government regulation of industry.

* 42% of test takers were more controlled market thinkers than you.
* 56% of test takers were more liberal market thinkers than you.



You scored 49 out of 100 on a scale of Marxist vs Non-Marxist. This means that politically you are neither more nor less likely to follow the philosophies of Marx.

* 51% of test takers were more Marxist than you.
* 46% of test takers were more non-Marxist than you.




apparantly, all in all, this makes me a 19 year old conservitive with a tendancy towards pragmatisem *laughs*

CENTRIST!

Mwahahahahahahahaha! :D

CENTRIST!

Mwahahahahahahahaha! :D


:D

i'm a moderate libertarian socialist... what anarchocommunists morph into when they get older and less fiesty and more cynical about revolution.

Huh ....

"Overall, the PoliticsForum quiz considers you an individually-orientated, materialist, small-government, internationalist, controlled-market kind of person, who also seems quite Marxist."

* 11% of test takers were more individual than you.
* 88% of test takers were more social than you.

* 96% of test takers were more theist than you.
* 3% of test takers were more materialist than you.

* 91% of test takers were more big government than you.
* 8% of test takers were more small government than you.

* 96% of test takers were more nationalist than you.
* 3% of test takers were more internationalist than you.

* 49% of test takers were more protectionist than you.
* 49% of test takers were more pro free trade than you.

* 36% of test takers were more absolutist than you.
* 60% of test takers were more non-absolutist than you.

* 5% of test takers were more controlled market thinkers than you.
* 93% of test takers were more liberal market thinkers than you.

* 7% of test takers were more Marxist than you.
* 92% of test takers were more non-Marxist than you.

What do you know ... I'm a commie. Well that's ok too.

mines not on there - anarcho-syndical-communist with a slight authoritarian streak which i tend to suppress.

Overall, the PoliticsForum quiz considers you a socially-orientated, materialist, internationalist, non-absolutist, controlled-market kind of person.

These characteristics would put you in the overall category of socialist. Your natural home at PoliticsForum would be the Socialism (http://www.politicsforum.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=16) area.

You scored 64 out of 100 on a scale of Individual vs Social. This means that politically you are more likely to value the need for group actions and group benefit over individual enterprise and benefit.

You scored 69 out of 100 on a scale of Theist vs Materialist. This means that politically you are more likely to believe that religion and spirituality are superstitions that should not inform political debate.

You scored 52 out of 100 on a scale of Big Government vs Small Government. This means that politically you are neither more nor less likely to believe that government should keep out of legislating social policies, leaving such decisions to individuals.

You scored 74 out of 100 on a scale of Nationalist vs Internationalist. This means that politically you are more likely to favour international bodies over national ones.

You scored 54 out of 100 on a scale of Protectionist vs Free Trader. This means that politically you are neither more nor less likely to favour free trade over protectionist policies.

You scored 75 out of 100 on a scale of Absolutist vs Non Absolutist. This means that politically you are less likely to believe that there is an absolute truth that may guide your ideological beliefs.

You scored 32 out of 100 on a scale of Controlled Market vs Liberal Market. This means that politically you are more likely to believe that there is need for government regulation of industry.

You scored 44 out of 100 on a scale of Marxist vs Non-Marxist. This means that politically you are neither more nor less likely to follow the philosophies of Marx.

mines not on there - anarcho-syndical-communist with a slight authoritarian streak which i tend to suppress.
be careful old el duce started out as a syndicalist with a bossy side:p

Only one commie! Its alright i voted for 'socialist' not communist. Personally i enjoy Communist History (Cuban Revolution, Cuban Missile Crisis, Russian Revolution, Mao Zedong and the Korean War) but prefer the more democratic side!

Only one commie! Its alright i voted for 'socialist' not communist. Personally i enjoy Communist History (Cuban Revolution, Cuban Missile Crisis, Russian Revolution, Mao Zedong and the Korean War) but prefer the more democratic side!

Socialism is, if anything, less democratic than real Communism, not more so.

I suppose I'm a lefty Pragmato-Social Libertarian Humanist.
we're at least 2 then...

Libertarian; because nothing boils my spuds, froasts my cookies, and chaffs my thighs more than some snooty nosed politician taxing me into the ground and claiming that his or her 'progressive' (in the case of a left wing) or 'traditional' (in the case of conservative) values should be funded with my tax dollars. Defend my country, defend my private property and keep the fuck out of my life!

My political beliefs are... unique. It's tough to explain, so if you want to know, TG me.
Same here. Sometimes I sound very very left-wing, and sometimes conservative. Depends on the issue. I don't fit into the usual pigeon holes.

I consider myself to be a reasonably liberal Catholic, which makes me conservative in the grand scheme of things.

Defend my country, defend my private property and keep the fuck out of my life!
The military takes your tax dollars to function. The rich pay a larger amount than the poor. I see no difference in principle between public healthcare and public defense. Both are government programmes that use money taken from citizens for the benefit of all citizens.

I consider myself to be a reasonably liberal Catholic, which makes me conservative in the grand scheme of things.
That's a religious position, not a political position.

<snip> That's a religious position, not a political position.
What I mean to say is that, as Catholics go, I'm reasonably liberal. However, because, as a general rule Catholics are conservative to ultra-conservative, that still makes me conservative.

If it helps, for the political compass thing I got -5.00 for socialist/capitalist and -2.41 for libetarian/authoritarian.

Not any sort of Anarchist option... So I guess I have to go with the Socialist then.

Hey, that is a pretty cool test.

Overall, the PoliticsForum quiz considers you a socially-orientated, materialist, internationalist, protectionist, absolutist, controlled-market kind of person.

These characteristics would put you in the overall category of socialist. Your natural home at PoliticsForum would be the Socialism area. (Eh, I still voted Liberal in the poll, so sue me :p.]


You scored 81 out of 100 on a scale of Individual vs Social. This means that politically you are more likely to value the need for group actions and group benefit over individual enterprise and benefit.

* 95% of test takers were more individual than you.
* 5% of test takers were more social than you.


You scored 67 out of 100 on a scale of Theist vs Materialist. This means that politically you are more likely to believe that religion and spirituality are superstitions that should not inform political debate.

* 59% of test takers were more theist than you.
* 39% of test takers were more materialist than you.


You scored 59 out of 100 on a scale of Big Government vs Small Government. This means that politically you are neither more nor less likely to believe that government should keep out of legislating social policies, leaving such decisions to individuals.

* 52% of test takers were more big government than you.
* 45% of test takers were more small government than you.


You scored 85 out of 100 on a scale of Nationalist vs Internationalist. This means that politically you are more likely to favour international bodies over national ones.

* 94% of test takers were more nationalist than you.
* 5% of test takers were more internationalist than you.


You scored 34 out of 100 on a scale of Protectionist vs Free Trader. This means that politically you are less likely to favour free trade over protectionist policies.

* 19% of test takers were more protectionist than you.
* 80% of test takers were more pro free trade than you.


You scored 38 out of 100 on a scale of Absolutist vs Non Absolutist. This means that politically you are more likely to believe that there is an absolute truth that may guide your ideological beliefs.

* 6% of test takers were more absolutist than you.
* 93% of test takers were more non-absolutist than you.


You scored 7 out of 100 on a scale of Controlled Market vs Liberal Market. This means that politically you are more likely to believe that there is need for government regulation of industry.

* 3% of test takers were more controlled market thinkers than you.
* 96% of test takers were more liberal market thinkers than you.


You scored 40 out of 100 on a scale of Marxist vs Non-Marxist. This means that politically you are neither more nor less likely to follow the philosophies of Marx.

* 27% of test takers were more Marxist than you.
* 70% of test takers were more non-Marxist than you.

Liberal Capitalist Socialist Democrat.

Mostly socialist.

test results: Overall, the PoliticsForum quiz considers you a materialist, small-government, internationalist, controlled-market kind of person.

These characteristics would put you in the overall category of borderline internationalist.

You scored 56 out of 100 on a scale of Individual vs Social.
* 50% of test takers were more individual than you.
* 48% of test takers were more social than you.

You scored 70 out of 100 on a scale of Theist vs Materialist.
* 64% of test takers were more theist than you.
* 34% of test takers were more materialist than you.

You scored 67 out of 100 on a scale of Big Government vs Small Government.
* 71% of test takers were more big government than you.
* 27% of test takers were more small government than you.

You scored 82 out of 100 on a scale of Nationalist vs Internationalist.
* 91% of test takers were more nationalist than you.
* 8% of test takers were more internationalist than you.

You scored 59 out of 100 on a scale of Protectionist vs Free Trader.
* 57% of test takers were more protectionist than you.
* 41% of test takers were more pro free trade than you.

You scored 59 out of 100 on a scale of Absolutist vs Non Absolutist.
* 55% of test takers were more absolutist than you.
* 41% of test takers were more non-absolutist than you.

You scored 36 out of 100 on a scale of Controlled Market vs Liberal Market.
* 46% of test takers were more controlled market thinkers than you.
* 52% of test takers were more liberal market thinkers than you.

You scored 51 out of 100 on a scale of Marxist vs Non-Marxist.
* 57% of test takers were more Marxist than you.
* 40% of test takers were more non-Marxist than you.

second time I took the test:
Overall, the PoliticsForum quiz considers you a socially-orientated, materialist, small-government, internationalist, free-trade, non-absolutist, controlled-market kind of person.

These characteristics would put you in the overall category of socialist. Your natural home at PoliticsForum would be the Socialism area.

You scored 64 out of 100 on a scale of Individual vs Social. (higher)
* 70% of test takers were more individual than you.
* 27% of test takers were more social than you.

You scored 70 out of 100 on a scale of Theist vs Materialist. (same)
* 64% of test takers were more theist than you.
* 34% of test takers were more materialist than you.

You scored 72 out of 100 on a scale of Big Government vs Small Government. (higher)
* 79% of test takers were more big government than you.
* 19% of test takers were more small government than you.

You scored 83 out of 100 on a scale of Nationalist vs Internationalist. (higher)
* 92% of test takers were more nationalist than you.
* 7% of test takers were more internationalist than you.

You scored 70 out of 100 on a scale of Protectionist vs Free Trader. (higher)
* 73% of test takers were more protectionist than you.
* 25% of test takers were more pro free trade than you.

You scored 62 out of 100 on a scale of Absolutist vs Non Absolutist. (higher)
* 66% of test takers were more absolutist than you.
* 31% of test takers were more non-absolutist than you.

You scored 33 out of 100 on a scale of Controlled Market vs Liberal Market. (lower)
* 40% of test takers were more controlled market thinkers than you.
* 58% of test takers were more liberal market thinkers than you.

You scored 51 out of 100 on a scale of Marxist vs Non-Marxist. (same)
* 57% of test takers were more Marxist than you.
* 40% of test takers were more non-Marxist than you.

Libertarian communist. You didn't include the option in your poll.

I'm a right-leaning libertarian, but here is the test results.

Overall, the PoliticsForum quiz considers you a theist, free-trade, liberal-market kind of person, who doesn't sound like a Marxist.

These characteristics would put you in the overall category of libertarian.


Individual vs Social
"The individualist believes that society works best through a focus on individual rights, freedoms, actions and responsibilities. The social thinker believes that the ideal state should focus more upon collective action and take a social approach to rights and responsibilities."


Individual Social

You scored 59 out of 100 on a scale of Individual vs Social. This means that politically you are neither more nor less likely to value the need for group actions and group benefit over individual enterprise and benefit.

57% of test takers were more individual than you.
40% of test takers were more social than you.

Theist vs Materialist
"The materialist believes that all objective criteria to influence politics can be reasonably derived without recourse to the divine or the spiritual. The theist believes that spiritual beliefs are important and should influence government policy."


Theist Materialist

You scored 31 out of 100 on a scale of Theist vs Materialist. This means that politically you are less likely to believe that religion and spirituality are superstitions that should not inform political debate.

12% of test takers were more theist than you.
88% of test takers were more materialist than you.


Big Government vs Small Government

You scored 54 out of 100 on a scale of Big Government vs Small Government. This means that politically you are neither more nor less likely to believe that government should keep out of legislating social policies, leaving such decisions to individuals.

39% of test takers were more big government than you.
58% of test takers were more small government than you.


Nationalist vs Internationalist
"The nationalist believes in the sovereign rule of nation states, particularly his or her own. The internationalist believes that there should be more important international fora and perhaps, ultimately, international government."


National International

You scored 53 out of 100 on a scale of Nationalist vs Internationalist. This means that politically you are neither more nor less likely to favour international bodies over national ones.

35% of test takers were more nationalist than you.
63% of test takers were more internationalist than you.


Protectionist vs Free Trader
"The protectionist believes in barriers against free trade most probably due to a belief that this is in his or her country's interests. The free trader rejects such notions, believing that the system ultimately suffers when tariffs, subsidies and other obstacles to free trade persist."


Protection Free-Trade

You scored 76 out of 100 on a scale of Protectionist vs Free Trader. This means that politically you are more likely to favour free trade over protectionist policies.

82% of test takers were more protectionist than you.
18% of test takers were more pro free trade than you.


Absolutist vs Non-Absolutist
"The absolutist believes that either a divine presence or scientific laws provide absolute truths about the world, which can and should be applied in practise. The non-absolutist may be either a relativist, or simply someone who is more pragmatic."


Absolute Non-Absolute

You scored 45 out of 100 on a scale of Absolutist vs Non Absolutist. This means that politically you are neither more nor less likely to believe that there is an absolute truth that may guide your ideological beliefs.

13% of test takers were more absolutist than you.
85% of test takers were more non-absolutist than you.


Controlled Market vs Liberal Market
"Both of these categories assume a capitalist system. Assuming this system, the controlled market believer holds that government should intervene in regulating a nation's economy: wage laws, environmental standards, privatised industries and workplace relations policy. A liberal market thinker believes that such regulation is unnecessary and often counter-productive."


Controlled Liberal

You scored 69 out of 100 on a scale of Controlled Market vs Liberal Market. This means that politically you are less likely to believe that there is need for government regulation of industry.

87% of test takers were more controlled market thinkers than you.
13% of test takers were more liberal market thinkers than you.


Marxist vs Non-Marxist

You scored 64 out of 100 on a scale of Marxist vs Non-Marxist. This means that politically you are less likely to follow the philosophies of Marx.

86% of test takers were more Marxist than you.
13% of test takers were more non-Marxist than you.

I'm generally just anti-left, whether it's socialism, fascism, or communism.

Libertarian communist.

That has to be the funniest thing I ever heard. :D

That has to be the funniest thing I ever heard. :D
No, it isn't. "Libertarian" has only ever meant "capitalist" in America, and only then since about the 1960s. It was originally used in Europe as a synonym for anarcho-communist movements.

No, it isn't. "Libertarian" has only ever meant "capitalist" in America, and only then since about the 1960s. It was originally used in Europe as a synonym for anarcho-communist movements.

Libertarian means maximum freedom, social, political, and economic. Communism fails to meet all three. And "anarcho-communism" is an oxymoron.

Im aaaaaa

Liberal-Communist(socialist maybe) with a Hawkish stance to foreign policy
and a stance against democracy in favour of working your way to power and influence.




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This region is home to the nations whom are fiercely conservative. Only patriotic Americans are allowed to call this region home. Flag-burning, granola-munching, latte-sipping, sushi-eating, terrorist-appeasing, baby-killing, tree-hugging, enviro-freak, drug-using, elitist, godless, anti-American, union-dependent, queer, communist, socialist, UN-pussy, tax-hiking, liberal, leftists are not at all welcome here.

You'll have to forgive me for being actually British Commonwealth rather than American, and believing that sodomy between 2 consenting adults is a 'whatever makes 'em happy'-issue..

Im a Liberal Centrist. More liberal than Centrist.

How many of these tests are there?:eek:

Overall, the PoliticsForum quiz considers you a materialist, small-government, internationalist, free-trade, non-absolutist, kind of person.

These characteristics would put you in the overall category of libertarian. Your natural home at PoliticsForum would be the Liberalism area. <- Yay! I voted the right thing!


You scored 47 out of 100 on a scale of Individual vs Social. This means that politically you are neither more nor less likely to value the need for group actions and group benefit over individual enterprise and benefit.

You scored 90 out of 100 on a scale of Theist vs Materialist. This means that politically you are more likely to believe that religion and spirituality are superstitions that should not inform political debate.

You scored 62 out of 100 on a scale of Big Government vs Small Government. This means that politically you are more likely to believe that government should keep out of legislating social policies, leaving such decisions to individuals.

You scored 76 out of 100 on a scale of Nationalist vs Internationalist. This means that politically you are more likely to favour international bodies over national ones.

You scored 88 out of 100 on a scale of Protectionist vs Free Trader. This means that politically you are more likely to favour free trade over protectionist policies.

You scored 80 out of 100 on a scale of Absolutist vs Non Absolutist. This means that politically you are less likely to believe that there is an absolute truth that may guide your ideological beliefs.

You scored 47 out of 100 on a scale of Controlled Market vs Liberal Market. This means that politically you are neither more nor less likely to believe that there is need for government regulation of industry.

You scored 57 out of 100 on a scale of Marxist vs Non-Marxist. This means that politically you are neither more nor less likely to follow the philosophies of Marx.


Hmmm, that's pretty much seems okay I guess.

Libertarian means maximum freedom, social, political, and economic. Communism fails to meet all three. And "anarcho-communism" is an oxymoron.
Oh just try that one on this forum. There are many who would raze your logic to the ground. Let me guess, you think that private property is a "natural right", don't you?

Check out this recent thread (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=473374) on the topic.

It should also be noted that when people proclaim that they are communists here it usually means that they are ideological communists, rather than admirers of Stalin.

Way too many socialists :eek: Anyway, Libertarian-liberal here. ^^

Libertarian means maximum freedom, social, political, and economic. Communism fails to meet all three. And "anarcho-communism" is an oxymoron.


why does this cliched response happen everytime someone uses the term libertarian socialist here, and occasionally when the term anarchocommunism comes up. this smug dismissal of our very names and the complete misunderstanding of the terms by which we define ourselves. generally its too depressingly repetative for me to even attempt a response.

So far, we have 59% White and 41% Red. Not bad.

Especially if we speak about the US conservatives who always complain about a left-wing bias on this forum.

The military takes your tax dollars to function. The rich pay a larger amount than the poor. I see no difference in principle between public healthcare and public defense. Both are government programmes that use money taken from citizens for the benefit of all citizens.

And used to control citizens and keep them under the thumbs of the powers that me. The NZ Libertarianz already worked out the cost of things; and simply by keeping the existing state own enterprises, which pay dividends to the government, NZ could have a zero income and GST policy and still maintain defence and, law and order.

As for helping the poor and the likes - that can be done through private chariety, donations and the like. Worked for hundreds of years before the welfare state and income theft became the vogue.

And used to control citizens and keep them under the thumbs of the powers that me. The NZ Libertarianz already worked out the cost of things; and simply by keeping the existing state own enterprises, which pay dividends to the government, NZ could have a zero income and GST policy and still maintain defence and, law and order.

As for helping the poor and the likes - that can be done through private chariety, donations and the like. Worked for hundreds of years before the welfare state and income theft became the vogue.


not sure i agree with you on everything there, but here's a thought: most politicians are not good rulers. they are simply good at getting elected.

somehow NZ's party system manages to make even the few intelligent ones who slip through the cracks incapable of being effective.

ummm... that whole helping the poor thing? i think you mean it Failed to work effectivly for hudereds of years. on the other hand, our social welfair system is hardly effective either.

... yeup, NZ's goverment sucks. hehe. perhaps we should get rid of the politicians and give the monarch some actual power again?

yeah, i'm a monarchist as well.

... and i'm rambleing. post ends here.

not sure i agree with you on everything there, but here's a thought: most politicians are not good rulers. they are simply good at getting elected.

Too true; there maybe some good people there with genuine concerns, but they seem to get overwhelmed with the force of 'status quo' and 'don't rock the boat'.

somehow NZ's party system manages to make even the few intelligent ones who slip through the cracks incapable of being effective.

Thats more the biproduct of the fact that your average New Zealander is as thick as two short planks - look at all the dick heads thinking that if support National, they can get passed the 50% threshold, never mind the bloody obvious that no one under MMP can get an outright majority - thats how it has been designed!

ummm... that whole helping the poor thing? i think you mean it Failed to work effectivly for hudereds of years. on the other hand, our social welfair system is hardly effective either.

Under the old system, those who genuinely needed help, because they've fallen on hard times through no fault of their own, were helped. The problem today is that we have people walking around thinking that social welfare is a right.

Social welfare is a privilage and it should only given to those in genuine need - not those who have fucked up their lives by having more children than they could afford, then turn around and start demanding tax credits and social welfare payments - which actually turn into more of an incentive to keep make stupid mistakes.

... yeup, NZ's goverment sucks. hehe. perhaps we should get rid of the politicians and give the monarch some actual power again?

yeah, i'm a monarchist as well.

... and i'm rambleing. post ends here.

Na, Monarchy would do no better. Politicians need to realise they have one roll, protect private property - thats all they should be concerned about.

Its about politicians knowing where the limitation of their power lay, and going no further than that.

ok, i quoted then put stuff within the quote. the result was too short, so i killed the quoteation. still quoted though.


Thats more the biproduct of the fact that your average New Zealander is as thick as two short planks << actually, most of them are just too lazy to use thier brains. not stupid. i know, i know, the difference is mostly irrelivant, but still.


look at all the dick heads thinking that if support National, they can get passed the 50% threshold, never mind the bloody obvious that no one under MMP can get an outright majority - thats how it has been designed! << again, too meny lazy twits voteing out of habit. my grand-parents are like that. then again, they still think muldoon had the right idea. frankly, anyone who votes for labour OR national should be shot...


Under the old system, those who genuinely needed help, because they've fallen on hard times through no fault of their own, were helped. <<< how far back are you going to get to the "old" system? because while that was true in some places, and some times, most places, most of the times, those who needed it got nothing, or far too little, though admitidly no one who DIDN"T desirve such things got them either.


The problem today is that we have people walking around thinking that social welfare is a right. << true, it's a problem. not The problem, but deffinatly a problem

Social welfare is a privilage and it should only given to those in genuine need - << truth

not those who have fucked up their lives by having more children than they could afford,<<< not quite truth

then turn around and start demanding tax credits and social welfare payments - which actually turn into more of an incentive to keep make stupid mistakes. << true and very annoying.



Na, Monarchy would do no better.<< debateable untill the cows come home and then some.

Politicians need to realise they have one roll, protect private property - thats all they should be concerned about.<< i'm not sure i agree with you on what their role should be, still, it should be the best interests of the people and the nation, not some idiological idiocy that requires one to ignore reality befor it even makes sence. infact, protection of privet property isn't particularly a role of politicians. that is up to the police and judicial system. the military, however [where our government makes some of their biggest cock ups, though not the worst ones] is a key government responcibility. as is diplomacy and the protection of the nation's interest. the whole free trade thing, ESPECIALLY with china, for example, is shear idiocy. we'd lose more than we'd gain. by a lot.

how about i make a list of things that Are the governments responcibility. the stuff that justifys the existance of parliment and not just a single ruler:
education [at least basic]. health. infrastructure [tele communications, power, road, rails etc] the military, international diplomacy, the makeing of just law in the support of any goal listed here, and the protection of the nations interests from external threats of any sort.

... ok, my thoughts are less orginized than i thought. suffice to say, it's not as simple as you think, but our government has a habit of getting far too involved in irrelivanceys and ignoreing the important things.


Its about politicians knowing where the limitation of their power lay, and going no further than that.<<< that would be very nice. too bad our entire system is set up so they don't. it's constantly evolveing, and NEVER lines up with the official documentation. i think the MPs like it that way or something..

i hope you werne't trying to suggest anything with the order of that poll.

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