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Since Swimmingpool is no longer (I don't think, anyway - his nation has CTE and his last forum activity was November) I thought we could make another map of NSers' Political Compass (http://www.politicalcompass.org/) test results. What do you think to the idea?

The co-ordinates are (Economic, Social): I (Golgothastan) am (-6.50, -9.49).

The current map (updated to post 33) is here (http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/2057/pc7qs.gif).

Economic Left/Right: -3.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.18

See signature for details

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -8.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.44

Swimmingpool is back, but I forget his new name, but it says "formerly swimmingpool" in the location thingy.

Oh, and see sig...should probably revise it but I cbf, so there.

Ok, well, if Swimmingpool does want to reclaim his idea, he's welcome to it. I've updated the map.

Ok, well, if Swimmingpool does want to reclaim his idea, he's welcome to it. I've updated the map.

Personally, if I were him, i'd be happy someone else is doing all the work willingly. :D

Check the sig, yo.

Economic Left/Right: -1.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.79

Haven't done one of these in a while...

let's see now:
Economic Left/Right: -9.49
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.82

Haven't done one of these in a while...

let's see now:
Economic Left/Right: -9.49
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.82

*nods* Comrade. :p

What can I say? Born and bred, comrade *embraces Kanabia, kisses both cheeks*

*points to sig*

What can I say? Born and bred, comrade *embraces Kanabia, kisses both cheeks*

Whee! :D Anyone else want to start a peace vigil with us?

Numbers in my sig.

I've done up to 15. I'm making a small one as well.

Economic -2.13
Social -0.77

Economic Left/Right: -7.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.18

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7347/pc7je.gif

Economic Left/Right: -7.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.18

Swimmingpool is back, but I forget his new name, but it says "formerly swimmingpool" in the location thingy.

Oh, and see sig...should probably revise it but I cbf, so there.
Swimmingpool is now called The Half-Hidden.

Still his do-gooder, brilliant artist, [insert other adjective for completion] self.

economical: -8.13
Social: -5.13

*points to signature*

On a side note: where do I find that moral order/rule/whatever thing?

- 9.86
- 10.00

Seems I've gotten more socially liberal since last time. Groovy.

Economic Left/Right: 0.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.15

Can you say moderate?

I reiterate: peeps among you all have taken some kind of moral quiz akin to the political compass. May I please be linked to it?

Economic: 1.12
Social: - 10.00

Moved a little more to the right again. That's fairly disturbing.

I reiterate: peeps among you all have taken some kind of moral quiz akin to the political compass. May I please be linked to it?

http://www.moral-politics.com/xpolitics.aspx?menu=Home&action=Test&choice=Long

enjoy! For some reason, this test tells me I'm a commie. :confused:

Economic: 1.12
Social: - 10.00

Moved a little more to the right again. That's fairly disturbing.

We'll work on you.

BAD BOY! NAUGHTY! *smacks* NOW WHO ARE YOUR COLLECTIVE DADDIES?

We'll work on you.

BAD BOY! NAUGHTY! *smacks* NOW WHO ARE YOUR COLLECTIVE DADDIES?
ahahaha...so much for a peace vigil, eh?

And here I brought all my finest marijuana...:(

Economic Left/Right: -4.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.31

In meh siggy. :)

http://www.moral-politics.com/xpolitics.aspx?menu=Home&action=Test&choice=Long

enjoy! For some reason, this test tells me I'm a commie. :confused:

Thank you good sir.

...

Hmm...

Your Score

You scored -2 on the Moral Order axis and -0.5 on the Moral Rules axis.

Matches

The following items best match your score:

1. System: Liberalism
2. Variation: Moderate Liberalism
3. Ideologies: Capital Democratism
4. US Parties: Democratic Party
5. Presidents: Jimmy Carter (90.89%)
6. 2004 Election Candidates: John Kerry (92.03%), Ralph Nader (81.12%), George W. Bush (63.22%)

o_________o

EEEGADS!

*Points to sig*

Economic Left/Right: -3.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.41
Moral Order: -3.50
Moral Rules: 3.00

Done up to Neu Leonstein.

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/2057/pc7qs.gif

I've retaken the test. New numbers in sig.

Economic: 1.12
Social: - 10.00

Moved a little more to the right again. That's fairly disturbing.

Stop attaching so much importance to money and wealth! *slap* *smack* *cattle prod*

Who cares that you "earned it"?! Did you do it for you or for the greater collective good? Do something important with your money .... share it!

*coff*

Mmkay .... [/socialist rant]

Economic Left/Right: -4.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.92
Moral Order: -5.5
Moral Rules: .5

Stop attaching so much importance to money and wealth! *slap* *smack* *cattle prod*

Who cares that you "earned it"?! Did you do it for you or for the greater collective good? Do something important with your money .... share it!

*coff*

Mmkay .... [/socialist rant]
hahaha...I'm a bit disappointed my social score isn't a bit closer to -10...hmm. Perhaps time to reassess some values. And maybe some economic ones at that.

hahaha...I'm a bit disappointed my social score isn't a bit closer to -10...hmm. Perhaps time to reassess some values. And maybe some economic ones at that.

Well if you'd just get over your aversion to homosexual squirrel group marriages, you would be ok. :p

Check my Sig.

Economic Left/Right: -2.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.59

Well if you'd just get over your aversion to homosexual squirrel group marriages, you would be ok. :p
haha...I can't help it. Squirrels are too much fun to have them all protecting their numerous spouses...I can handle two of them, but after that, they get feistey.

honestly, I'm not really sure where I can get more socally accepting...I'm wondering if maybe I'm interpreting a question wrong, and getting a wrong score because of it...

I do this just to get another post count...

Economic Left/Right: 5.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.77

Signature.

Economic Left/Right: -2.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.00

Btw, for that morals one..
Moral Order = -3
Moral Rules = 2

Economic Left/Right: -9.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.82


Swimmingpool is back, but I forget his new name, but it says "formerly swimmingpool" in the location thingy.
he's the Half Hidden (if nobody else has already said so)

My standings are in my signature.

See sig.

It's in the sig, but for simpliciy's sake:
Econ: Left/Right: -4.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.69

Um, Begoned just did one of these a mere 4 weeks ago.

Here's the thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=468451).

And here's the map. (http://alemea.freecoolsite.com/NSGraph.html)

Economic Left/Right: -3.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.72

As I expected.

Economic Left/Right: -5.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.67

See sig:
Economic Left/Right: 8.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.00
Moral Order 0.5 Moral Rules -6.5

Um, Begoned just did one of these a mere 4 weeks ago.

Here's the thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=468451).

And here's the map. (http://alemea.freecoolsite.com/NSGraph.html)
wow i missed that... but that's really rather good!
its in flash too so you can zoom in... oooohh...
(and i can second this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10411352&postcount=8)btw :p)

my score is in my sig.

Economic Left/Right: 5.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 4.15

Economic Left/Right: -7.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.90

I'll stand by my sig, but I'm a lefty at heart. Just think it's not the best way to start a debate, by laying your political 'score' on the table... let others judge by your arguments

See sig. Also, why not plug in everything from the old map?

All our times have come
Here but now they're gone
Seasons don't fear the reaper
Nor do the wind, the sun or the rain
We can be like they are

Come on baby... Don't fear the Reaper
Baby take my hand... Don't fear the Reaper
We'll be able to fly... Don't fear the Reaper
Baby I'm your man... -(Don't Fear)The Reaper, Blue Oyster Cult
Have you checked out the Apollo 440 cover of this? It's really good, give it a listen.
Sorry, totally going off topic...

As it stands in my Signature.

My political compass
Economic Left/Right: -7.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.08

You can add me (see sig) ;)

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -9.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.87

Your Score

Your scored -1 on the Moral Order axis and 6.5 on the Moral Rules axis.

Here's my Pol Compass score:

Economic Left/Right: 6.22
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.31

The sig says it all. Launch all sigs for great justice!

The sig says it all. Launch all sigs for great justice!

East Texas too, eh? How unfortunate...

+8 +9

or +9 -6.63

or -9 -8

Choose one. I don't care.

Since Swimmingpool is no longer (I don't think, anyway - his nation has CTE and his last forum activity was November) I thought we could make another map of NSers' Political Compass (http://www.politicalcompass.org/) test results. What do you think to the idea?

The co-ordinates are (Economic, Social): I (Golgothastan) am (-6.50, -9.49).

The current map (updated to post 33) is here (http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/2057/pc7qs.gif).
I am Swimmingpool, reborn! I think I have to take the test again. I'll do it tomorrow.

I am Swimmingpool, reborn! I think I have to take the test again. I'll do it tomorrow.

You'll do it NOW, damnit!

*shoves a handfull of cookies down your throat*

Whee! :D Anyone else want to start a peace vigil with us?
I find it ironic that so many leftists are also pacifists, given that conflict was at the very core of Marx's philosophy.

Swimmingpool is now called The Half-Hidden.

Still his do-gooder, brilliant artist, [insert other adjective for completion] self.
:D

Economic Left/Right: 0.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.15

Can you say moderate?
That's pretty damned centrist.

*points to signature*

On a side note: where do I find that moral order/rule/whatever thing?
You don't need to. It's a useless, America-centric test.

Stop attaching so much importance to money and wealth! *slap* *smack* *cattle prod*

Who cares that you "earned it"?! Did you do it for you or for the greater collective good? Do something important with your money .... share it!

*coff*

Mmkay .... [/socialist rant]
He didn't earn it. He stole it inadvertently because the system is biased in his favour.

Seriously, we on the left have got to get out of this rut of apparently promoting a version of socialism that is simply politicised altruism.

(okay, threadjacking, but it had to be said)

My standings are in my signature.
So obviously just made up!

You'll do it NOW, damnit!

*shoves a handfull of cookies down your throat*
No I really ought to go to bed... me sick...

So obviously just made up!


No I really ought to go to bed... me sick...

1: Okay, my sarcasm detector's off right now, so you'll have to throw me a bone here. :p

2: "Me sick"... That sounds like something Kanabia would say...

*shifts eyes*

Economic Left/Right: -5.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.95

East Texas too, eh? How unfortunate...

Let's just say that I put that *sigh* in my location for a reason and leave it at that. :(

Let's just say that I put that *sigh* in my location for a reason and leave it at that. :(

I can guess why. :p

I mean, it'd be fine if not for all of the rednecks and rightist retards. That's why I much prefer Corpus Christi and Austin.

Economic Left/Right: 4.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 4.26

3.5 on the Moral Order axis
-3 on the Moral Rules axis.

Meh, whatever.

I just took the test and surprised myself a lot

Economic Left/Right: -8.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.85

Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.36

Last time I took it anyway.

I just took the test and surprised myself a lot

Economic Left/Right: -8.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.85

Hey, last time you took it, you were almost at 0 on the Economic side of things.

Economic Left/Right: -6.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.33

Hey, last time you took it, you were almost at 0 on the Economic side of things.
Since then I've been a victim of crime and have also got more educated. Thus I moved leftwards, and I am now more authoritarian.

Since then I've been a victim of crime and have also got more educated. Thus I moved leftwards, and I am now more authoritarian.

*shakes fist at authoritarianism*

:p

*shakes fist at authoritarianism*

*shakes fist at destructive idealism*

Economic: -0.75
Social: -7.69

I'm sure when I last did it I scored -9 on the social scale, so obviously I'm less anarchistic now...

I find it ironic that so many leftists are also pacifists, given that conflict was at the very core of Marx's philosophy.


Eh, but I never claimed to be a Marxist. I believe a revolution will be necessary if we are to have socialism, but whether I would participate in said revolution violently I can't say.

*shakes fist at destructive idealism*

I'm hardly the destructive type. I say let people do whatever they want with themselves...

...That doesn't mean I'll be like them, though. I'm quite clean, really. I might smoke a joint now and then when I get the chance, and drink once in a while, but I'm by no means an excessive person in that respect.

I'm hardly the destructive type. I say let people do whatever they want with themselves.
Until they start engaging in activities that directly harm, indirectly harm, or will cause future harm to others and to society, right?

Until they start engaging in activities that directly harm, indirectly harm, or will cause future harm to others and to society, right?

I'm not one for causing harm to others, be it directly or indirectly. I can't say that I'd support anyone else doing those things.

Economic Left/Right: -4.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.87

Economic Left/Right: 0.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.87

Interesting. I've moved almost to perfect center on the left/right axis, but more to the libertarian side on the libertarian/authoritarian axis.

Read my Sig.

I've drifted more the economic centre recently.

I'm not one for causing harm to others, be it directly or indirectly. I can't say that I'd support anyone else doing those things.
Let's just leave it here for fear of threadjacking.

Let's just leave it here for fear of threadjacking.

Yeah, I think that'd be best... Sadly.

Economic Left/Right: -4.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.05

I find it ironic that so many leftists are also pacifists, given that conflict was at the very core of Marx's philosophy.

personally, as a leftist (or, specifically, an ideological communist), i am not a Marxist. i use some of his ideas and concepts, but i see no point in wholly subscribing to a political philosophy if you don't agree with it. for starters i do not agree with the necessary violence inherent in Marxist theory... thus i am not a marxist, nor do i (or have i) claimed to be so.
talk to DHomme about that one... ;)

L/r: -5.25
L/a: -6.1

personally, as a leftist (or, specifically, an ideological communist), i am not a Marxist. i use some of his ideas and concepts, but i see no point in wholly subscribing to a political philosophy if you don't agree with it. for starters i do not agree with the necessary violence inherent in Marxist theory... thus i am not a marxist, nor do i (or have i) claimed to be so.
talk to DHomme about that one... ;)
DHomme is probably the only person on here with even remotely feasible ideas on how to achieve socialism. You're never going to turn Britain socialist or communist through the parliamentary system. Any suggestion that you can is laughable. Revolution is necessary.

Maybe you are a champagne communist? Do you really care? Or are you just supportive of the theory of it, but ultimately content to let the capitalist status quo remain?

No, don't cite your participation in some democratic communist party on NS. That won't achieve shit.

If youd be so kind to put up khalhazarus our numbers are

Economic Left/Right: -8.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.64

DHomme is probably the only person on here with even remotely feasible ideas on how to achieve socialism. You're never going to turn Britain socialist or communist through the parliamentary system. Any suggestion that you can is laughable. Revolution is necessary.

Maybe you are a champagne communist? Do you really care? Or are you just supportive of the theory of it, but ultimately content to let the capitalist status quo remain?
revolution is laughable. people are not ready for communism. the only way it can be implimented at the moment is through half-baked socialism and totalitarianism until the people are ready. if you're willing to bend the rules of morality to justify enslaving and controlling people for the sake of your cause, then go ahead. say hi to Stalin or Mr. Pot and his buddy Mao while you're there.

i am content to let the capitalist staus quo continue for as long as is necessary with slow reform as people adapt. human nature is malleable - on that we must agree - but it cannot be changed overnight. needless violence is the only way to keep non altrusitic people in check until human nature moves away from the greed instilled in them by the capitalistic system. if you wait and take time, reform and change the system in tandem away from capitalism as people move away from greed in their nature, then the transition to communism can be made without spilling blood and without any need for a totalitarianist regime or oppression, fear and brainwashing.

short answer: people aren't ready. revolution is pointless. look at RL "communist" countries. alternative methods to achieve the end point of materialism must be found.

Economic Left/Right: -3.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.62

revolution is laughable. people are not ready for communism. the only way it can be implimented at the moment is through half-baked socialism and totalitarianism until the people are ready. if you're willing to bend the rules of morality to justify enslaving and controlling people for the sake of your cause, then go ahead. say hi to Stalin or Mr. Pot and his buddy Mao while you're there.

i am content to let the capitalist staus quo continue for as long as is necessary with slow reform as people adapt. human nature is malleable - on that we must agree - but it cannot be changed overnight. needless violence is the only way to keep non altrusitic people in check until human nature moves away from the greed instilled in them by the capitalistic system. if you wait and take time, reform and change the system in tandem away from capitalism as people move away from greed in their nature, then the transition to communism can be made without spilling blood and without any need for a totalitarianist regime or oppression, fear and brainwashing.

short answer: people aren't ready. revolution is pointless. look at RL "communist" countries. alternative methods to achieve the end point of materialism must be found.
If this was the 1960s then your opinions would be worth considering, but your approach has already been tried. It had Britain on a very rocky road by the late 1970s so people elected a reactionary maniac who undid a lot of the progress.

Human "nature" is malleable, but it's very difficult to change. If people have the freedom to choose self-interest, then they usually will because that's what their conditioning tells them and you can't change that peacefully. Parents pass on this conditioning to the next generation; how are you going to change that?

the transition to communism can be made without spilling blood
No, it can't. There has never been a vast societal and political change without violence.

Yes, people may be killed. There are no bloodless revolutions. But that's very different from endorsing genocide, which I certainly don't.