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My Assault/Sniper Rifle came in the Post today...

Syniks
15-03-2006, 22:17
George Washington would have sold his soul for a couple hundered of these .50 caliber sniper rifles... :eek:

http://www.treasurehuntarms.com/mimosaservices/images/newpics/firestorm.gif

Can throw a 360gr minnie ball at 1866 f.p.s for 2784 ftlbs energy! (2230 x 1993 ftlbs for Patch & Ball...)

Let's see... One shot every 30 to 45 seconds. Accurate out to 200yds with the stock sights. (and still hits with over 1000 ftlbs energy... :eek: )

I can make powder, lead bullets and knapp agate flint at home. ;)

And best of all, it's a good scary Black Plastic & Stainless rifle ta boot! :p
The Half-Hidden
15-03-2006, 22:21
What can you do with that?
Khwarezmia
15-03-2006, 22:22
Ha! It doesn't beat mine!
http://www.toyarsenal.com/toygun/det38sm.jpg
Syniks
15-03-2006, 22:25
What can you do with that?
Hunt virtually any big game anywhere in the US.

Compete in "open class" muzzleloader competition.

Make snide comments about my evil "black .50cal sniper rifle". :D
Kecibukia
15-03-2006, 22:35
My precious........... We must haves it.
Syniks
15-03-2006, 22:50
My precious........... We must haves it.

Order away my son.

http://www.riflemagazine.com/catalog/detail.cfm?page=11&Productid=645&subcategoryid=78

TCM5049 Fire Storm Composite 50 Cal Flint 26" Round Stainless Barrel Fiber Optic Sights Discount Price: $389.48

Barrel Length: 26" with QLA® Muzzle System built in.
Rifling Twist: 1 in 48" twist for use with Round Balls and Conicals.
O/A Length: 41 3/4". . Wt: 7 lb.
Competition adjustable steel rear sight and ramp style front sight with Tru-Glo™ Fiber Optics.
Trigger: Single trigger with large trigger guard bow.
Extra Features: Aluminum ramrod is standard. Drilled and tapped.
Loading: The Fire Storm™ can accept Magnum charges of up to 150 grains of FFG Black Powder or Pyrodex® equivalent (or 3 Pyrodex® 50 caliber, 50 grain Pellets).

Placed the order on the 9th, got it on the 15th. :D
The Half-Hidden
16-03-2006, 01:27
Hunt virtually any big game anywhere in the US.

Compete in "open class" muzzleloader competition.

Make snide comments about my evil "black .50cal sniper rifle". :D
Aaaah, but can you shoot a mugger with it?
Psychotic Mongooses
16-03-2006, 01:30
I wonder is there much penis envy in the United States....
The South Islands
16-03-2006, 01:30
Aaaah, but can you shoot a mugger with it?

Can you use a Nodachi to cut cucumber?
The Half-Hidden
16-03-2006, 01:35
Can you use a Nodachi to cut cucumber?
Yes, you could, but a smaller kitchen knife would be more convenient.
The South Islands
16-03-2006, 01:55
Yes, you could, but a smaller kitchen knife would be more convenient.

...and that's your answer.

(Actually, cutting up vegetibles with a Nodachi would be pretty kickass.)
The Abomination
16-03-2006, 02:02
What the hell? Is that a flintlock? You can buy modernised muskets in America?


Do you guys offer dual citizenship to people from the UK?
Gartref
16-03-2006, 02:05
I have a semi-automatic muzzle loader that shoots 30 rounds per minute.
Secret aj man
16-03-2006, 02:12
What the hell? Is that a flintlock? You can buy modernised muskets in America?


Do you guys offer dual citizenship to people from the UK?


yea we got it pretty good with guns here,still to restrictive if you ask me though.
i am toying with getting a muzzleloader myself!

i like the historical aspect of them,and the fact with modern improvements,very accurate and capapble hunting guns..

congrats on your new toy/tool syniks!!!

how much if you dont mind?:sniper:
Pythogria
16-03-2006, 02:19
*scared of rifles*

Wow. Nice gun there.
Thriceaddict
16-03-2006, 02:22
Wow, you can mailorder anything in the US. Do they have nuclear warheads by any chance? They're a lot more effective.
The South Islands
16-03-2006, 02:23
I have a semi-automatic muzzle loader that shoots 30 rounds per minute.

Wah?

How the hell does that work?
Gartref
16-03-2006, 02:55
Wah?

How the hell does that work?

It has fifteen barrels and is powered by hamsters.
The South Islands
16-03-2006, 02:58
It has fifteen barrels and is powered by hamsters.

Ah. The Winchester Model BB214?
Syniks
16-03-2006, 03:15
What the hell? Is that a flintlock? Yep. You can buy modernised muskets in America?

Absolutely. (http://cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/index/index-display.jsp?id=cat601141&navAction=jump&navCount=1&parentId=cat20712&parentType=category&cmCat=MainCatcat20712) Actually, Muzzleloaders (and cap&ball blackpowder pistols) are the ONLY class of firearms in the US that are NOT restricted by FEDERAL Law. Some States have other local restrictions, but by in large you can order a reproduction "traditional", "archaic" or "other" muzzle-loader without hassle.

Now, here's the funny bit. Joe Criminal can order a .44 caliber black-powder revolver for less than $200. It would be legal, easy and just as lethal as the Smith & Wesson he would have to steal or buy on the black market. AND, there are no shell casings to trace. But he doesn't. Why Not?

Just goes to show it is NOT the availability of guns that is the problem, but the mindset of the criminal.
Do you guys offer dual citizenship to people from the UK?Not unless one of your parents is a USian...
Syniks
16-03-2006, 03:17
Wow, you can mailorder anything in the US. Do they have nuclear warheads by any chance? They're a lot more effective.
:rolleyes: Flintlock of late 1600's design =/= nuke. :rolleyes:

See, not all of us US "gun nuts" are into AK47s, M16s or other such stuff.

Hell, my favorite "assault rifle" is a Lever gun. If you don't think such a "cowboy/farm gun" is a viable military arm, read the following: http://www.militaryrifles.com/Turkey/TurkWin.htm

See some people like "Assault Weapons" or fancy "Sniper Rifles". I like Muzzle Loaders, Lever Guns, Single Action Revolvers and 1911 clones.

Some people like Lamborghinis & Jaguars. I like VWs. Some like Hummers, I like Jeeps. You can do some amazing things with a VW or Jeep if you know what you are doing - even to the point of out performing a "high performance" vehicle.

Same goes for guns. Some people may have the scratch to buy and play with a "high performance" firearm. I prefer to tweak and perfect the older, less "technological", but more reliable, tools.
Syniks
16-03-2006, 03:44
"The media deliberatly calls "military style" semi-auto's assault weapons to mislead the general public into believing that anyone can go out and buy a fully-automatic weapon, which simply is NOT the case. While some states DO permit private ownership of assault weapons, the cost + the $300 NFA tax stamp rules out ownership for most people.

It's the exact SAME thing as mounting a "wing" on a 4-door Honda Civic and painting on a racing stripe and calling it a "RACE CAR". :rolleyes:"

Use as you will. :D
RetroLuddite Saboteurs
16-03-2006, 03:52
George Washington would have sold his soul for a couple hundered of these .50 caliber sniper rifles... :eek:

yeah , but i think at 50 cal. its more of a battle rifle, maybe a squirrel gun would be more of a muzzle loading assault rifle or a scatter gun/blunderbust of some sort.
Wallonochia
16-03-2006, 03:55
Do you guys offer dual citizenship to people from the UK?

Actually, it's a bit of a grey area.

A U.S. citizen may acquire foreign citizenship by marriage, or a person naturalized as a U.S. citizen may not lose the citizenship of the country of birth.U.S. law does not mention dual nationality or require a person to choose one citizenship or another. Also, a person who is automatically granted another citizenship does not risk losing U.S. citizenship. However, a person who acquires a foreign citizenship by applying for it may lose U.S. citizenship. In order to lose U.S. citizenship, the law requires that the person must apply for the foreign citizenship voluntarily, by free choice, and with the intention to give up U.S. citizenship.

Also, the only way to lose US citizenship for a law abiding citizen is to renounce it at a US consulate or embassy. I've been (not very seriously) looking into getting citizenship in an EU country (specifically France) because I want to do TEFL work over there, and am worried employment prospects.

State Department Site (http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1753.html)
Syniks
16-03-2006, 03:57
...and that's your answer.

(Actually, cutting up vegetibles with a Nodachi would be pretty kickass.)
Samaurai Deli! :eek: :p
Syniks
16-03-2006, 04:17
yeah , but i think at 50 cal. its more of a battle rifle, maybe a squirrel gun would be more of a muzzle loading assault rifle or a scatter gun/blunderbust of some sort.
Tell that to the Media or those here on NSG who can't tell the difference between a Main Battle Rifle, an "Assault Rifle", a Machine Gun, an "Automatic" Rifle/pistol or a Semi-Automatic rifle/pistol. :rolleyes:

(Clue: Main Battle Rifle = Slow Fire Rifle. May or may not be self-loading depending on design era.: "Asault Rifle" = MBR, Machine Gun, Automatic (or "select fire") Rifle or Automatic Pistol with ugly stock, pistol grip &/or big clip: Machine Gun/Automatic = Self Loading Firearm that fires multiple cartridges with a single, held pull of the trigger: Semi-Automatic = Self Loading Firearm that requires a defined trigger-pull for each indifidual cartridge discharge.)
Daistallia 2104
16-03-2006, 04:18
Aaaah, but can you shoot a mugger with it?

Depends on how good his "gun control" is. ;) I'd venture to say yes, he's got a damned good chance of being able to shoot a mugger with it.

Samaurai Deli!

Ya know, come to think of it, in 15 years I've never seen a Samurai Deli here. Of all the countries this is where one would think such a place could be found.

I may have to open one...
Syniks
16-03-2006, 04:27
Depends on how good his "gun control" is. ;) I'd venture to say yes, he's got a damned good chance of being able to shoot a mugger with it.Well, yes. The mugger would have to be mugging someone else a few dozen meters away... ;)

OTOH, you don't want to mess with me if I'm carrying my Ruger "Old Army Cap & Ball... :p

Ya know, come to think of it, in 15 years I've never seen a Samurai Deli here. Of all the countries this is where one would think such a place could be found.

I may have to open one... Do you look like John Belushi? I'm not sure any other Gaijn could get away with it.... :D
Daistallia 2104
16-03-2006, 05:28
Do you look like John Belushi? I'm not sure any other Gaijn could get away with it.... :D

Funnily enough, one of my good friends here looks enough like him to have auditioned for the Jake Blue role in the Blues Brothers show at Universal Studios Japan. He had to go back to the US though.
Ekland
16-03-2006, 05:44
*scared of rifles*

Wow. Nice gun there.

*Cough*

“A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity.” - Sigmund Freud

*Cough*

Had that quote in my siggy for a while, heh. :p
Zaxon
16-03-2006, 14:09
"The media deliberatly calls "military style" semi-auto's assault weapons to mislead the general public into believing that anyone can go out and buy a fully-automatic weapon, which simply is NOT the case. While some states DO permit private ownership of assault weapons, the cost + the $300 NFA tax stamp rules out ownership for most people.

It's the exact SAME thing as mounting a "wing" on a 4-door Honda Civic and painting on a racing stripe and calling it a "RACE CAR". :rolleyes:"


Too fabulous, sir. Most excellent. :D
Jeruselem
16-03-2006, 14:16
Nice rifle! Good for err, Cane Toad hunting. :p
Valdania
16-03-2006, 14:43
Hunt virtually any big game anywhere in the US.

Compete in "open class" muzzleloader competition.

Make snide comments about my evil "black .50cal sniper rifle". :D



Is it true that 'exotic' animals are imported into the US and set free on enclosed ranches for weekend hunters (i.e. rich fuckers) to blast away?

:sniper:
Kryysakan
16-03-2006, 14:43
*Cough*

“A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity.” - Sigmund Freud

*Cough*

Had that quote in my siggy for a while, heh. :p
Another great Freud quote:
"Woe to you, my Princess, when I come... you shall see who is the stronger, a gentle little girl who doesn't eat enough or a big wild man who has cocaine in his body."
Kryysakan
16-03-2006, 14:46
"The media deliberatly calls "military style" semi-auto's assault weapons to mislead the general public into believing that anyone can go out and buy a fully-automatic weapon, which simply is NOT the case. While some states DO permit private ownership of assault weapons, the cost + the $300 NFA tax stamp rules out ownership for most people.
Ahh that's lucky. Only rich psychopaths can afford to go on a killing spree with a weapon of war.
The Bruce
16-03-2006, 15:10
Aaaah, but can you shoot a mugger with it?

You’d be better off stabbing them with the ramrod…

I’m pretty certain people don’t get involved in black powder guns for a hobby for defence reasons.
Syniks
16-03-2006, 15:11
Is it true that 'exotic' animals are imported into the US and set free on enclosed ranches for weekend hunters (i.e. rich fuckers) to blast away?

:sniper:Sadly. But then, Rich Fuckers have always been able to do what they want, when they want. Like have armed bodyguards in places where guns are "illegal". :headbang:
Syniks
16-03-2006, 15:13
Nice rifle! Good for err, Cane Toad hunting. :p
Shhh. Be vewwy vewwy qwiet. I'm hunting Red Coats! :p
Eutrusca
16-03-2006, 15:13
George Washington would have sold his soul for a couple hundered of these .50 caliber sniper rifles... :eek:

http://www.treasurehuntarms.com/mimosaservices/images/newpics/firestorm.gif

Can throw a 360gr minnie ball at 1866 f.p.s for 2784 ftlbs energy! (2230 x 1993 ftlbs for Patch & Ball...)

Let's see... One shot every 30 to 45 seconds. Accurate out to 200yds with the stock sights. (and still hits with over 1000 ftlbs energy... :eek: )

I can make powder, lead bullets and knapp agate flint at home. ;)

And best of all, it's a good scary Black Plastic & Stainless rifle ta boot! :p
Nice looking weapon, although I've never been a big fan of single-shot rifles. Guess I got spoiled by all those new-fangled repeaters, eh? ;)
Philosopy
16-03-2006, 15:17
I honestly can't believe you can just get one of those in the post. :eek:
The Bruce
16-03-2006, 15:17
This is my favourite gun site to look at, when I miss being out on the range. They talk about all manner of guns here, but I don't remember black powder being brought up when I browsed the forums. They do have some really good posts by gunsmiths though.

http://www.ar15.com/
The Bruce
16-03-2006, 15:19
http://www.ar15.com/forums/forum.html?b=6&f=16

Wait, they do have a section on their forum just for Black Powder hobbyists!
Kellarly
16-03-2006, 15:32
Absolutely. (http://cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/index/index-display.jsp?id=cat601141&navAction=jump&navCount=1&parentId=cat20712&parentType=category&cmCat=MainCatcat20712) Actually, Muzzleloaders (and cap&ball blackpowder pistols) are the ONLY class of firearms in the US that are NOT restricted by FEDERAL Law. Some States have other local restrictions, but by in large you can order a reproduction "traditional", "archaic" or "other" muzzle-loader without hassle.


Damn it, they have a Brown Bess but no Baker Rifle... oh well...

You can get black powder weapons pretty easily in the UK too, provided you have a black powder and fire arms license.
Fascist Emirates
16-03-2006, 15:34
Avtomat Kalashnikova - Auto
M16 - Auto
FN FAL - Semi
Stg. 58 - Auto
Mac-11 - Auto
MP5 - Auto
M1 Garand
Mosin-Nagant
Desert Eagle .50 AE
Ruger Super Redhawk .454 Casull
Glocks
Sigs
And more...

An image of my father buying a Nagant when I was fourteen
http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/Photos/38746_85144713.jpg

Any Questions?
Carnivorous Lickers
16-03-2006, 15:51
Yep.

Absolutely. (http://cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/index/index-display.jsp?id=cat601141&navAction=jump&navCount=1&parentId=cat20712&parentType=category&cmCat=MainCatcat20712) Actually, Muzzleloaders (and cap&ball blackpowder pistols) are the ONLY class of firearms in the US that are NOT restricted by FEDERAL Law. Some States have other local restrictions, but by in large you can order a reproduction "traditional", "archaic" or "other" muzzle-loader without hassle.

Now, here's the funny bit. Joe Criminal can order a .44 caliber black-powder revolver for less than $200. It would be legal, easy and just as lethal as the Smith & Wesson he would have to steal or buy on the black market. AND, there are no shell casings to trace. But he doesn't. Why Not?

Just goes to show it is NOT the availability of guns that is the problem, but the mindset of the criminal.
Not unless one of your parents is a USian...


Nice rifle, Syniks-enjoy.

My brother has a stainless .44 black powder revolver we shoot from time to time. Its a good time.
Syniks
16-03-2006, 15:54
Avtomat Kalashnikova - Auto M16 - Auto FN FAL - Semi Stg. 58 - Auto Mac-11 - Auto MP5 - Auto M1 Garand Mosin-Nagant Desert Eagle .50 AE Ruger Super Redhawk .454 Casull Glocks Sigs And more... Any Questions?

No, just not enough money for that type of excess.

Here is my other "Assault Rifle".

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y180/MrMisanthrope/.jpg

I just need an ugly black plastic stock for it.
Kellarly
16-03-2006, 16:04
No, just not enough money for that type of excess.

Here is my other "Assault Rifle".

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y180/MrMisanthrope/.jpg

I just need an ugly black plastic stock for it.

Whats the ammo like for those things?

I remember reading somewhere that they had developed a new kind of ammo that makes it highly unlikely that cartridges will go off in the tube mag due to them being hit too hard on the primer and going off. That true?


Plus, I'm still envious of your new rifle. Maybe old tech, but it works and has been proven to do so for well over a quarter of a millenium. Not bad eh?
Mt-Tau
16-03-2006, 16:07
:rolleyes: Flintlock of late 1600's design =/= nuke. :rolleyes:

See, not all of us US "gun nuts" are into AK47s, M16s or other such stuff.

Hell, my favorite "assault rifle" is a Lever gun. If you don't think such a "cowboy/farm gun" is a viable military arm, read the following: http://www.militaryrifles.com/Turkey/TurkWin.htm

See some people like "Assault Weapons" or fancy "Sniper Rifles". I like Muzzle Loaders, Lever Guns, Single Action Revolvers and 1911 clones.

Some people like Lamborghinis & Jaguars. I like VWs. Some like Hummers, I like Jeeps. You can do some amazing things with a VW or Jeep if you know what you are doing - even to the point of out performing a "high performance" vehicle.

Same goes for guns. Some people may have the scratch to buy and play with a "high performance" firearm. I prefer to tweak and perfect the older, less "technological", but more reliable, tools.

Very true, while I enjoy Vietnam-present day rifles, the WW2 rifles are really amazing.
Syniks
16-03-2006, 16:08
Whats the ammo like for those things?

I remember reading somewhere that they had developed a new kind of ammo that makes it highly unlikely that cartridges will go off in the tube mag due to them being hit too hard on the primer and going off. That true?
True. Hornady has created the new "LEVERevolution" (http://www.hornady.com/story.php?s=198) ammunition for certain lever cartridges. However, mine is in .38/.357 so it uses the same ammunition as my revolver - and is still a deer-capable cartridge out to 100 yds.
Plus, I'm still envious of your new rifle. Maybe old tech, but it works and has been proven to do so for well over a quarter of a millenium. Not bad eh?I like old tech. That's why I have a '68 Beetle. :p
Kellarly
16-03-2006, 16:16
True. Hornady has created the new "LEVERevolution" (http://www.hornady.com/story.php?s=198) ammunition for certain lever cartridges. However, mine is in .38/.357 so it uses the same ammunition as my revolver.

That the Ruger Old Army you mentioned earlier?

One of my favourite Sci-Fi books of all time (Wolf in Shadow by David Gemmell) has the hero armed with 2 old cap and ball revolvers (One Ruger and a Remington) as after the 'Apocalypse' its easier to make them than full shells.


I like old tech. That's why I have a '68 Beetle. :p


Sweet :D
Syniks
16-03-2006, 16:21
That the Ruger Old Army you mentioned earlier?

One of my favourite Sci-Fi books of all time (Wolf in Shadow by David Gemmell) has the hero armed with 2 old cap and ball revolvers (One Ruger and a Remington) as after the 'Apocalypse' its easier to make them than full shells.
Why'da'ya think I bought it? :p

I actually have the bullet moulds, and punch press necessary to make bullets and caps. I also know how to make fulminates and black powder.

Who needs Federal Cartridge Corp? :D
Eutrusca
16-03-2006, 16:25
Shhh. Be vewwy vewwy qwiet. I'm hunting Red Coats! :p
Are they anything like wabbits? Wabbits in wed coats? :D
Kellarly
16-03-2006, 16:32
Why'da'ya think I bought it? :p

I actually have the bullet moulds, and punch press necessary to make bullets and caps. I also know how to make fulminates and black powder.

Who needs Federal Cartridge Corp? :D

Cool :)

That lever action you got the same one thats reviewed here? (http://www.gunblast.com/Chaparral-1876.htm)
Fascist Emirates
16-03-2006, 16:32
I specialize in scary, black rifles.

I once put my M16 lower on a .50 Beowulf Upper.
Full auto clipfed fifty cal, Hooyah. (Unfourtunatly there are only seven rounds in a mag)

.50 Beowulf vs. .223 Remington
http://www.gun-world.net/old/USA/M16/derived/aa50-3.jpg
Kellarly
16-03-2006, 16:34
Are they anything like wabbits? Wabbits in wed coats? :D

Just because we chose classy uniforms ;)
Syniks
16-03-2006, 16:34
I honestly can't believe you can just get one of those in the post. :eek:Which, as I said, just goes to show that it's not the availability of firearms that is the problem - since the last time one of these "Postable" firearms was used in a crime was... well... 1860?

(not really, but essentially never. I'll dig, but I doubt I can find a modern incident...)
Syniks
16-03-2006, 16:36
Cool :)

That lever action you got the same one thats reviewed here? (http://www.gunblast.com/Chaparral-1876.htm)
No, it's an EMF/Rossi Winchester 1892 clone in bead-blast Stainless Steel. http://www.emf-company.com/1892-winchester-rifle-carbine.htm

Paco (from GunBlast) reviews the EMFs somewhere in there...
Syniks
16-03-2006, 16:38
I specialize in scary, black rifles.

I once put my M16 lower on a .50 Beowulf Upper.
Full auto clipfed fifty cal, Hooyah. (Unfourtunatly there are only seven rounds in a mag)

.50 Beowulf vs. .223 Remington
http://www.gun-world.net/old/USA/M16/derived/aa50-3.jpg
The Beowulf is an interesting cartridge/upper. If I had to get an AR, I would definately get the Beowulf upper.
Fascist Emirates
16-03-2006, 16:40
The Beowulf is an interesting cartridge/upper. If I had to get an AR, I would definately get the Beowulf upper.

A marine friend of mine shot the aforementioned .50 Beowulf Full Auto, he said he'd take three. (But wanted at least thirty rounds in the clip)
Kellarly
16-03-2006, 16:43
No, it's an EMF/Rossi Winchester 1892 clone in bead-blast Stainless Steel. http://www.emf-company.com/1892-winchester-rifle-carbine.htm

Paco (from GunBlast) reviews the EMFs somewhere in there...

Yeah, just found the review.
Syniks
17-03-2006, 04:30
Just because we chose classy uniforms ;)
Is that what you called them? We called them "Highly Visible Targets" :p
The South Islands
17-03-2006, 05:08
I can't wait until I get out of college. Then I can finally get some firearms in my possession.
Syniks
17-03-2006, 05:11
That the Ruger Old Army you mentioned earlier?

One of my favourite Sci-Fi books of all time (Wolf in Shadow by David Gemmell) has the hero armed with 2 old cap and ball revolvers (One Ruger and a Remington) as after the 'Apocalypse' its easier to make them than full shells.
FYI: (Using Stainless Steel as a more expensive option...)

Ruger Old Army, 5-1/2" Barrel ($500US+):
http://ruger.com/Firearms/images/Products/59L.gif

A less expensive Option (>$300US):
http://cabelas.com/cabelas/en/content/Pod/00/61/91/p006191hz04a.jpg

Or, in Blue Steel:
http://cabelas.com/cabelas/en/content/Pod/01/55/21/p015521hz02.jpg

All of which can be ordered by Post... but go strangly unused by criminals...
Syniks
17-03-2006, 05:23
I can't wait until I get out of college. Then I can finally get some firearms in my possession.
Phsaw. You are only 2-1/2 hours from me. If you leave by 7:30 your time, you can get to Michigan City by aroung 9:00am - just when we start shooting Sunday on April 1. You could drive here, shoot (my gun(s) bullets & powder) eat lunch at the range, and be back in time for supper. :p Total cost, 1 tank of petrol.

TG me if you want to. My Invite is open to anyone in driving range. :D
RetroLuddite Saboteurs
17-03-2006, 05:28
I can't wait until I get out of college. Then I can finally get some firearms in my possession.
i'm out of college but i never seem to have the extra money i can justify spending on guns... maybe its just priorities i can afford tattoos and dvds...
Daistallia 2104
17-03-2006, 05:50
Phsaw. You are only 2-1/2 hours from me. If you leave by 7:30 your time, you can get to Michigan City by aroung 9:00am - just when we start shooting Sunday on April 1. You could drive here, shoot (my gun(s) bullets & powder) eat lunch at the range, and be back in time for supper. :p Total cost, 1 tank of petrol.

TG me if you want to. My Invite is open to anyone in driving range. :D

I'd love to take you up but the commutes just too far. (And you would *not* believe the hoops you have to jump through to get a firearms permit here.)
The South Islands
17-03-2006, 05:53
Phsaw. You are only 2-1/2 hours from me. If you leave by 7:30 your time, you can get to Michigan City by aroung 9:00am - just when we start shooting Sunday on April 1. You could drive here, shoot (my gun(s) bullets & powder) eat lunch at the range, and be back in time for supper. :p Total cost, 1 tank of petrol.

TG me if you want to. My Invite is open to anyone in driving range. :D

Actually, that does sound like great fun! I used to go shooting with one of my friends from high school before he shipped out.

Unfortunately, I'm pretty booked for the next few months. If I get an open weekend, I'll make sure to TG you.
Kellarly
17-03-2006, 11:09
Is that what you called them? We called them "Highly Visible Targets" :p

Well, they worked against the French...after a little trial and error...
Neu Leonstein
17-03-2006, 11:46
Hey, I decided I want to find out what all the fuss is about. So I wanna go to a shooting range and learn how to shoot a gun.

Any tips how I start something like that?
Kecibukia
17-03-2006, 16:26
Hey, I decided I want to find out what all the fuss is about. So I wanna go to a shooting range and learn how to shoot a gun.

Any tips how I start something like that?

I'm not sure of the range situation in Aus. is but te best way to go is to find a range/gun club/shop in your area and go to it. Many times they have firearms for rent and offer instructions.

If not, if you have any friends/relatives that are out in the country and still own, I'm sure they would be willing to show you.

If there's nothing local and you ever come to the US, contact pretty much any one of us and we'ld be glad to hook you up or direct you to someone where you are that can.
Gun Manufacturers
18-03-2006, 05:58
George Washington would have sold his soul for a couple hundered of these .50 caliber sniper rifles... :eek:

http://www.treasurehuntarms.com/mimosaservices/images/newpics/firestorm.gif

Can throw a 360gr minnie ball at 1866 f.p.s for 2784 ftlbs energy! (2230 x 1993 ftlbs for Patch & Ball...)

Let's see... One shot every 30 to 45 seconds. Accurate out to 200yds with the stock sights. (and still hits with over 1000 ftlbs energy... :eek: )

I can make powder, lead bullets and knapp agate flint at home. ;)

And best of all, it's a good scary Black Plastic & Stainless rifle ta boot! :p


Nice rifle. Most of the BP rifles that I've seen around here are the percussion variety, though.
Daistallia 2104
18-03-2006, 19:12
Hey, I decided I want to find out what all the fuss is about. So I wanna go to a shooting range and learn how to shoot a gun.

Any tips how I start something like that?

If you're serious drop me at TG.
Syniks
20-03-2006, 05:14
Update: Just finished honing the lockwork. It's amazing how mechanically simple a flintlock musket is. Making one would literally be a one week job with some mild steel bar stock and a metal tube.

With a little regulating (hey, a "well regulated militia"?) I got the stock lock to ignite synthetic powder (no mean feat) consistantly. Which means with real Black or Brown powder I will have no worries whatsoever.

(Shooting Cottonballs out of a musket is suprisingly fun... :p )

On another note, I also set up my basement "range" so I could practice with my European .22 "Schutzenzimmer" loads out of my 1942 Remington Target rifle. When you can shoot in your basement and have the report get drowned-out by the basketball game, it's pretty cool.

Thank You, Euro ammo manufacturers for such cool ammo. :)
Kellarly
20-03-2006, 16:11
Update: Just finished honing the lockwork. It's amazing how mechanically simple a flintlock musket is. Making one would literally be a one week job with some mild steel bar stock and a metal tube.

With a little regulating (hey, a "well regulated militia"?) I got the stock lock to ignite synthetic powder (no mean feat) consistantly. Which means with real Black or Brown powder I will have no worries whatsoever.

(Shooting Cottonballs out of a musket is suprisingly fun... :p )

Yeah, their simplicity is a great thing...

Talking about simple weapons, my longsword instructor put together a nice little crossbow (about 120-130lbs, i.e. a small hunting bow). Very simple lock and stock, made a great bloody big hole in a 3mm piece of steel with a wooden dowl at about 50ft...

God help anything on the end of that with a actual bolt in it...
Syniks
20-03-2006, 16:24
Yeah, their simplicity is a great thing...

Talking about simple weapons, my longsword instructor put together a nice little crossbow (about 120-130lbs, i.e. a small hunting bow). Very simple lock and stock, made a great bloody big hole in a 3mm piece of steel with a wooden dowl at about 50ft...

God help anything on the end of that with a actual bolt in it...
Once again proving it's not the weapon, but the intent. :D
Kellarly
20-03-2006, 16:26
Once again proving it's not the weapon, but the intent. :D

Indeed :D
Fascist Emirates
20-03-2006, 16:32
Weapon is such a broad term.

They had a presentation on weapons at our school siting that "No object that could be utilized as a weapon was permitted on school grounds"

I then raised my hand and asked them to define the term 'weapon' whilst fliping the pen I had in my hand around on my fingers. The administrator's eyes were fixated on my pen for the remander of the class.

I've probably been demed a 'trouble maker' now.
Syniks
20-03-2006, 16:40
Weapon is such a broad term.

They had a presentation on weapons at our school siting that "No object that could be utilized as a weapon was permitted on school grounds"

I then raised my hand and asked them to define the term 'weapon' whilst fliping the pen I had in my hand around on my fingers. The administrator's eyes were fixated on my pen for the remander of the class.

I've probably been demed a 'trouble maker' now.

Good for you. The Kubotan was developed after a Uni Prof taught a bunch of his female students how to use a pen to control and disable an attacker.

Remember "The Godfather" where one wiseguy offs another with a pair of glasses?

I carry dense hardwood chopsticks wherever I go. They are nice and pointy. There is a whole Chinese art devoted to chopstick fighting. :eek:

"Weapon" prohibition is as silly as Booze Prohibition. It will never work.
Daistallia 2104
20-03-2006, 17:25
Yeah, their simplicity is a great thing...

Talking about simple weapons, my longsword instructor put together a nice little crossbow (about 120-130lbs, i.e. a small hunting bow). Very simple lock and stock, made a great bloody big hole in a 3mm piece of steel with a wooden dowl at about 50ft...

God help anything on the end of that with a actual bolt in it...

Heh. That reminds me of college. I had a friend who lived in a semi-rural area, on a large lot adjoining a junkyard. He constructed a compound ballista out of steel cable and automobile leaf steel springs. I was there when he first tested it. (>o<)

I should have known better regarding cheching target clkearance, but I wasn't expexting it to shoot a piece of rebar through the 1/2 inch wooden fence 50 yards away, into the junkyard, and a good 2 inches or more into an engine block. (This was after it split the mop handle we attempted to use the first time.)