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Would you let a man baby sit your little girl or boy?

Dark Shadowy Nexus
15-03-2006, 20:29
Would you let a man baby sit your little girl or boy?
Qwystyria
15-03-2006, 20:30
Absolutely... depending who it was.
Erastide
15-03-2006, 20:32
If I trusted them, of course. Same for a woman.
Cluichstan
15-03-2006, 20:32
Absolutely... depending who it was.


This guy?

http://www.sentimentosdilacerados.blogger.com.br/charles%20manson.jpg
Psychotic Mongooses
15-03-2006, 20:32
What the hell is a 'man baby'? :confused:
Ashmoria
15-03-2006, 20:34
yes

subject to the same qualifications i would insist on in a female babysitter

does he have a good character?

does he have the knowlege required to care for a child of this age for the length of time i would be using him for?

how much does he charge?
Cluichstan
15-03-2006, 20:35
What the hell is a 'man baby'? :confused:

This.

http://www.amberjacklanding.com/basement/images/Halloween/Hw78/78hw21.jpg
Carisbrooke
15-03-2006, 20:39
Would you let a man baby sit your little girl or boy?


I would, but not YOU.

What a shock! a post about small children started by DSN.....

I see another dance coming up.
Skinny87
15-03-2006, 20:39
Yes, as long as he is trustworthy, legitimate and has references.

Now then, I await your attempt to turn this into a pro-paedophilia thread.
PsychoticDan
15-03-2006, 20:39
You're a scary guy. The mods and admins should log your IP and send it to www.pervertedjustice.com
Cluichstan
15-03-2006, 20:40
Now then, I await your attempt to turn this into a pro-paedophilia thread.

Probably just hoping for a job offer. :eek:
Mariehamn
15-03-2006, 20:41
I don't have kids.
Sinuhue
15-03-2006, 20:45
Here we go again.

Well, to stick to the original question, yes I would. But I've yet to find a single man that runs a dayhome, or a single teenage boy that offers to babysit, so I can't exactly try it out. Once I'm in the city, I plan on getting my brothers to babysit from time to time, but in all likelihood, their main babysitter will be female, because of availability.

I don't implicitly trust anyone with my kids, male or female. I interview the babysitter, and I check their references. I pay attention to my kids, I check them for bruises, and pay attention to odd behaviour. I let their caregiver know when they've made claims about being spanked or yelled at, so that they know I'm paying attention. My children have wild imaginations...sometimes they tell their caregiver that I hit them on the head, and she relays this back to me, so I know that I can't take everything they say at face value...plus, children are highly suggestible. If you ask them if someone has 'touched them down there', they'll probably say, 'yes', even if it didn't happen. HOWEVER, if even with my most trusted caregiver, I had the gut feeling that something was wrong, I would pull those kids in an instant, without waiting for proof. I would also never completely discount their stories.

Male or female caregivers, to me, it doesn't matter.
Jocabia
15-03-2006, 21:00
Given I was molested by a female babysitter, I think I am more worried about not letting people like you near my children whether male or female. My solution is to make it very clear that I am trained and willing to kill a person who harms my children in that way, and I'd mean it.
Qwystyria
15-03-2006, 21:00
This guy?

http://www.sentimentosdilacerados.blogger.com.br/charles%20manson.jpg

*laugh* nope. I don't let anyone I don't know watch my daughter. I don't hire random babysitters, I don't send her to a daycare, and I don't leave her with anyone I don't know fairly well. Mostly she gets left with her aunts, grandparents, or friends of mine from church. All people I know. Some are male - but most of those are parents themselves.

My husband used to babysit once in a while when he was a single teenage boy. Some parents refused to let him just because he was male. They'd let his sisters, but he was a boy, and that was weird for them. I don't get that. My brother also babysat for a while, mostly for boys, but also for a girl or two. I don't see anything wrong with it. Not ALL boys want to go mow the neighbor's lawn to make money instead of sitting around watching tv with a bunch of stupid kids!
The Atlantian islands
15-03-2006, 21:04
Given I was molested by a female babysitter, I think I am more worried about not letting people like you near my children whether male or female. My solution is to make it very clear that I am trained and willing to kill a person who harms my children in that way, and I'd mean it.

Are you a guy?

How old were you?

How old was she?
Dark Shadowy Nexus
15-03-2006, 21:08
You're a scary guy. The mods and admins should log your IP and send it to www.pervertedjustice.com

Perverted justice twits?


He he he. They are fun to play with. I can and often do commit there vast resources to dead end witch hunts.

Send them to meeting places and such where no one shows up. They are so easy to spot it's pathetic.
Cluichstan
15-03-2006, 21:09
Perverted justice twits?


He he he. They are fun to play with. I can and often do commit there vast resources to dead end witch hunts.

Send them to meeting places and such where no one shows up. They are so easy to spot it's pathetic.

You're one sick SOB.
Carisbrooke
15-03-2006, 21:10
Perverted twits?

They are so easy to spot it's pathetic.


hmmm and you are?
Dark Shadowy Nexus
15-03-2006, 21:10
Given I was molested by a female babysitter, I think I am more worried about not letting people like you near my children whether male or female. My solution is to make it very clear that I am trained and willing to kill a person who harms my children in that way, and I'd mean it.

K

How do you get molested by a female babysitter?

If it's to hard to answer don't bother.
Jocabia
15-03-2006, 21:10
Are you a guy?

How old were you?

How old was she?

Yes. 4. 13.
Jocabia
15-03-2006, 21:11
K

How do you get molested by a female babysitter?

If it's to hard to answer don't bother.

What is that a joke? Do I need to teach you about the birds and the bees?
Dempublicents1
15-03-2006, 21:12
Well, to stick to the original question, yes I would. But I've yet to find a single man that runs a dayhome, or a single teenage boy that offers to babysit, so I can't exactly try it out.

Men/boys willing to babysit do seem few and far between, don't they? Of course, when I was younger, my brother and I were watched by a male babysitter. He was a college student. It was mostly when my parents were both working nights, so we didn't interact with him a whole lot, but he was around.


On the original question, most of my closest friends are guys, and I would have no problem with leaving a child with them, provided that I knew they were aware of how to properly care for the child at whatever age. (Many people can take care of a toddler/older child just fine, but don't really know much about infants).
Desperate Measures
15-03-2006, 21:12
Perverted justice twits?


He he he. They are fun to play with. I can and often do commit there vast resources to dead end witch hunts.

Send them to meeting places and such where no one shows up. They are so easy to spot it's pathetic.
Why?
Maineiacs
15-03-2006, 21:15
I'd let a man I know and trusted babysit, but then I wouldn't let anyone, male or female that I didn't know babysit. What kind of a stupid question was that?
Peechland
15-03-2006, 21:17
Do you or have you ever baby sitted Nexus?
Carisbrooke
15-03-2006, 21:24
Do you or have you ever baby sitted Nexus?

I really hope not.
Unogal
15-03-2006, 21:26
unless I knew them well
Sinuhue
15-03-2006, 21:27
DSN reminds me of a time I was working a distress line, where this guy would call up and tell us in intimate detail about rapes he had committed. We were unfortunately able to corroborate his stories with the police department, so we knew he was the real deal. We did not automatically trace calls, so a trace had to be done in a rather convoluted manner, and the guy always kept his calls short enough to make it impossible to find him. The experience gave me nightmares, and made me a very, very paranoid person. I only hope that DSN finally pushes it too far and gets banned for good...real or fake, I can't stand all this mousing about he does when it comes to discussing sexually abusing children.
Cluichstan
15-03-2006, 21:30
I only hope that DSN finally pushes it too far and gets banned for good...real or fake, I can't stand all this mousing about he does when it comes to discussing sexually abusing children.

What?!? I hope he never takes it too far and sexually abuses a child. I'd rather he jabber about it online than actually do it.
Desperate Measures
15-03-2006, 21:31
What?!? I hope he never takes it too far and sexually abuses a child. I'd rather he jabber about it online than actually do it.
I think Sinuhue meant take it too far in the forums...
Sarkhaan
15-03-2006, 21:32
why wouldn't I? If I've checked references, trusted them, and kept an open eye, same as I would for a woman, there is no reason not to.
Sinuhue
15-03-2006, 21:33
What?!? I hope he never takes it too far and sexually abuses a child. I'd rather he jabber about it online than actually do it.
No, you misunderstand. I hope he violates the ToS and gets kicked off. He constantly plays/trolls on this subject.
Peechland
15-03-2006, 21:36
I really hope not.


Me too. I think you've seen him tell us how he gets off on diaper and wetting scenarios. I cant believe he has not been banned.
Jocabia
15-03-2006, 21:36
DSN reminds me of a time I was working a distress line, where this guy would call up and tell us in intimate detail about rapes he had committed. We were unfortunately able to corroborate his stories with the police department, so we knew he was the real deal. We did not automatically trace calls, so a trace had to be done in a rather convoluted manner, and the guy always kept his calls short enough to make it impossible to find him. The experience gave me nightmares, and made me a very, very paranoid person. I only hope that DSN finally pushes it too far and gets banned for good...real or fake, I can't stand all this mousing about he does when it comes to discussing sexually abusing children.

That's what he wants. He tries to pretend he's not a predator, but he's trying to creep us out and make us scared for our children because that's what gets him off. He preys on the helpless and he likes to make more people helpless. That's why he plays his games with those that would protect children and why he plays his games here. He's a predator and all that he does here proves that he's not just happy secretly playing the show me game with children, but he needs to victimize all the people he can.

And because he's a coward, he has to victimize people who are helpless to fight back, namely children and people who will never come face to face with him. I suspect that were this real life his attitude toward you or I would be far more cowed.
PsychoticDan
15-03-2006, 21:41
Perverted justice twits?


He he he. They are fun to play with. I can and often do commit there vast resources to dead end witch hunts.

Send them to meeting places and such where no one shows up. They are so easy to spot it's pathetic.
Yeah, you're a smart guy, aren't you? :D

You will gut busted some day. The reason I'm sure is because you're proud of what you are. That'll make you sloppy. ;)

Aside from that, I'm curious. Are you the kind of child molester that is just unable to relate to adults or are you the kind that can't control your urges? The difference is important. Micheal Jackson I think is the kind of child molester that is emotionally and intellectually a child so that's what he relates to. He can't have an adult relationship because he doesn't have the emotional and intellectual prerequisits. The other kind, the more scary kind, is the kind who can't control their urges. These are the kind of people who end up murdering the children they molest.
Gauthier
15-03-2006, 21:44
Perverted justice twits?


He he he. They are fun to play with. I can and often do commit there vast resources to dead end witch hunts.

Send them to meeting places and such where no one shows up. They are so easy to spot it's pathetic.

And then you bitch and whine about WHY people think pedophiles like you need to be executed on the spot?

Freak. (http://www.operationsaveamerica.org/articles/articles/images/michael-jackson.jpg)
Jocabia
15-03-2006, 21:45
Yeah, you're a smart guy, aren't you? :D

You will gut busted some day. The reason I'm sure is because you're proud of what you are. That'll make you sloppy. ;)

Aside from that, I'm curious. Are you the kind of child molester that is just unable to relate to adults or are you the kind that can't control your urges? The difference is important. Micheal Jackson I think is the kind of child molester that is emotionally and intellectually a child so that's what he relates to. He can't have an adult relationship because he doesn't have the emotional and intellectual prerequisits. The other kind, the more scary kind, is the kind who can't control their urges. These are the kind of people who end up murdering the children they molest.

By the way, just to help you see the difference between how the death penalty is applied and how it should be applied, in my opinion, see my initial response to our friendly neighborhood predator. I think it will help you better see where I'm coming from.
Sinuhue
15-03-2006, 21:48
I suspect that were this real life his attitude toward you or I would be far more cowed.
I believe this to be true. I wonder if we could all make a pact to just put this disgusting person on IGNORE, and deprive him of the attention he seeks? In my culture, a banning is a very serious thing. But it requires the entire community to do it. Should we, could we, and would we?
Cluichstan
15-03-2006, 21:50
No, you misunderstand. I hope he violates the ToS and gets kicked off. He constantly plays/trolls on this subject.

Ah, gotcha. Didn't realise you meant push it too far here. Sorry 'bout that. I'm aware of his behaviour, and I, too, am surprised he hasn't been DEATed and banned.
Gauthier
15-03-2006, 21:53
By the way, just to help you see the difference between how the death penalty is applied and how it should be applied, in my opinion, see my initial response to our friendly neighborhood predator. I think it will help you better see where I'm coming from.

I don't know why other people even dignify his threads with a response. It's a pathological need to justify his fascination with pedophilia to himself which he'll keep doing until someone outright tells him it's okay to stick his prick inside a nine-year old girl or he gets banned/arrested/killed/whatever.

Oh and by the way...

:D

"I resent people using the term 'predator' in reference to child molesters. If this keeps up I might have to add more to my collection." (http://www.algorithm.com.au/files/backgrounds/Fun/aliens-vs-predator2-predator.jpg)

:D
PsychoticDan
15-03-2006, 22:00
By the way, just to help you see the difference between how the death penalty is applied and how it should be applied, in my opinion, see my initial response to our friendly neighborhood predator. I think it will help you better see where I'm coming from.
Then you wouldn't have a problem with the guy who is the subject of that thread getting the chair, right?

I know he'll get the needle, but I'd like it to be the chair.
Jocabia
15-03-2006, 22:06
I don't know why other people even dignify his threads with a response. It's a pathological need to justify his fascination with pedophilia to himself which he'll keep doing until someone outright tells him it's okay to stick his prick inside a nine-year old girl or he gets banned/arrested/killed/whatever.

Oh and by the way...

:D

"I resent people using the term 'predator' in reference to child molesters. If this keeps up I might have to add more to my collection." (http://www.algorithm.com.au/files/backgrounds/Fun/aliens-vs-predator2-predator.jpg)

:D
He actually likes little boys to be precise. The important thing to remember is that he is a weak being that chooses safe venues to pretend to have power because all of the regular venues are too scary for him. Adults might turn him down or see through his manipulation and that's scary. But little kids don't even understand what's going on, so it's safe. People in real life might actually stop him and that's scary so he has to pretend he's some kind of alpha wolf on the internet where he's safe.

This guy doesn't frighten me. I don't weep for the world that he exists. I weep for him. I pity him. This guy has to wake up every day look into his own mind and know that he's a blight and then spends his day trying to convince himself that there's nothing wrong with being him... and failing. He's not a wolf, he's a jackal. And the sad thing is, he knows this better than most of the people replying to him.
The Half-Hidden
15-03-2006, 22:08
Would you let a man baby sit your little girl or boy?
Yes, if he met the criteria, which would be the same for a woman. I can't believe that people trust 14 year old girls with their children.
Dempublicents1
15-03-2006, 22:10
Yes, if he met the criteria, which would be the same for a woman. I can't believe that people trust 14 year old girls with their children.

*shrug* I was a very responsible 14-year old girl once. And I didn't charge very much.
Jocabia
15-03-2006, 22:12
Then you wouldn't have a problem with the guy who is the subject of that thread getting the chair, right?

I know he'll get the needle, but I'd like it to be the chair.

No. I would. I don't think the state can engage in killing people until it is applied equally. I have no such burden. Anyone who watches my children, dates my children, etc. will be well-aware of what the penalty will be for certain acts. Now, if I'm lucky someone will prevent me from acting, but I know me and I will lose it if I caught someone doing such things to my children and they wouldn't even have time to make their implausible excuses. An irate father is allowed to wish for vengeance. A state is not.

The state can treat DP as a final solution but it only works if people understand that it will be applied to them when they commit the crime. When it's arbitrary people have no reason to believe they will be one of the unlucky few who actually get the DP. Particularly if their victim is black or the perpetrator is a white, affluent male.
Cluichstan
15-03-2006, 22:15
*shrug* I was a very responsible 14-year old girl once.

So was I. Ah, the wonders of surgery... :p
Sinuhue
15-03-2006, 22:16
*shrug* I was a very responsible 14-year old girl once. And I didn't charge very much.
It really depends on the kid. Some 12 year olds have already had years of experience helping with younger siblings, and are more capable than some adults. Knowing what to do in an emergency is key.
Sarkhaan
15-03-2006, 22:19
This guy doesn't frighten me. I don't weep for the world that he exists. I weep for him. I pity him. This guy has to wake up every day look into his own mind and know that he's a blight and then spends his day trying to convince himself that there's nothing wrong with being him... and failing. He's not a wolf, he's a jackal. And the sad thing is, he knows this better than most of the people replying to him.
Oh, you're good. You're very good.
Carisbrooke
15-03-2006, 22:19
I believe this to be true. I wonder if we could all make a pact to just put this disgusting person on IGNORE, and deprive him of the attention he seeks? In my culture, a banning is a very serious thing. But it requires the entire community to do it. Should we, could we, and would we?


How do we do it? Becaue I too have been wondering why he has not been banned from the forum by the MODs. I notice that his NS region page is pretty disturbing too...
Sinuhue
15-03-2006, 22:21
How do we do it? Becaue I too have been wondering why he has not been banned from the forum by the MODs. I notice that his NS region page is pretty disturbing too...
Go into your profile (tab at top left hand side of page) and put him on your IGNORE list.
The Half-Hidden
15-03-2006, 22:22
*shrug* I was a very responsible 14-year old girl once. And I didn't charge very much.
I'm sure there are exceptions, but my sister and her friends seemed very immature at 14. Most of them were babysitters too. I personally hire one though.
Valori
15-03-2006, 22:23
If I knew the man, or trusted the person then I would. Although, the same goes for any woman I may allow to babysit my children.
Sarkhaan
15-03-2006, 22:29
Go into your profile (tab at top left hand side of page) and put him on your IGNORE list.
I'd definatly be up for it. I've been waiting to break in my brand new ignore list with something worth while
Valori
15-03-2006, 22:44
And as far as ignoring Dark Shadowy Nexus, if everyone did it, it would work.

It's just a matter of getting everyone to do it.
Sinuhue
15-03-2006, 22:46
And as far as ignoring Dark Shadowy Nexus, if everyone did it, it would work.

It's just a matter of getting everyone to do it.
Exactly.
He's on my list now.
Jocabia
15-03-2006, 22:48
Not me. Someone has to fight the good fight. And he'll get no satisfaction out of me. He doesn't make me angry or scared or worried and can't. Not without facing me and I assure you he has no wish to do so.
Peechland
15-03-2006, 22:52
The fact that he could possibly be acting on his urges upsets me to no end.
We dont know what he does when he isnt on this forum. Someone put a link up about a man raping a 7 month old baby earlier today. It's tragic. Even if everyone put him on ignore, what will that do? Make him move to another forum on another site? He would still pose a threat to children.
Jocabia
15-03-2006, 22:55
The fact that he could possibly be acting on his urges upsets me to no end.
We dont know what he does when he isnt on this forum. Someone put a link up about a man raping a 7 month old baby earlier today. It's tragic. Even if everyone put him on ignore, what will that do? Make him move to another forum on another site? He would still pose a threat to children.

Peech, he wants to victimize you. That's what he does. He's a predator. He knows you have no power to deal with him and he wants to make you feel powerless so he tells you of his deeds to make you worry. This guy is a boogeyman. Stop worrying about him and he goes away. If he's full of crap, great. We are all happy. If he's not, you worrying about it does not change it. Don't give this guy anything to feed on. Pity him. It's all he deserves.

He only pretends like he sees nothing wrong with his deeds and what he says. He knows it's wrong which is why he tries to get acceptance of them. He wants US to convince HIM that he's not twisted. And we won't. So he suffers and always will suffer. He has to look in the mirror every day and see what he is staring back. And what he sees doesn't worry me in the slightest.
Valori
15-03-2006, 22:56
Exactly.
He's on my list now.

Ditto.

Glad it's finally been put to some good use.

*goes back to crockpot discussion*
Peechland
15-03-2006, 22:58
Peech, he wants to victimize you. That's what he does. He's a predator. He knows you have no power to deal with him and he wants to make you feel powerless so he tells you of his deeds to make you worry. This guy is a boogeyman. Stop worrying about him and he goes away. If he's full of crap, great. We are all happy. If he's not, you worrying about it does not change it. Don't give this guy anything to feed on. Pity him. It's all he deserves.


I know Joc, I guess having a baby in diapers and then reading about his fantasies about such is enough to weigh on my nerves.
Sinuhue
15-03-2006, 23:00
Not me. Someone has to fight the good fight. And he'll get no satisfaction out of me. He doesn't make me angry or scared or worried and can't. Not without facing me and I assure you he has no wish to do so.
I think he'll enjoy any attention you give him. Just like the rapist calling our distress line.
Gauthier
15-03-2006, 23:00
Peech, he wants to victimize you. That's what he does. He's a predator. He knows you have no power to deal with him and he wants to make you feel powerless so he tells you of his deeds to make you worry. This guy is a boogeyman. Stop worrying about him and he goes away. If he's full of crap, great. We are all happy. If he's not, you worrying about it does not change it. Don't give this guy anything to feed on. Pity him. It's all he deserves.

The joke I made aside, I find it distasteful that people would use the word "Predator" in association with child molestors. Predators in the wild tend to be vicious and strong creatures that aren't afraid of confronting their prey and taking them down quickly, and ideally without much suffering.

"Parasite" is a much more appropriate description, conjuring images of some small microorganism that feeds off its victims and causes suffering and anguish in the meantime, often hiding out of sight from that which can cure its infestation.
Jocabia
15-03-2006, 23:01
I know Joc, I guess having a baby in diapers and then reading about his fantasies about such is enough to weigh on my nerves.

We all know what would happen to someone who mistreated your children. He comes here because he's scared of people like us and this is the only safe place to confont us. And he should be. There is nothing of him worthy of your consideration. Worse, he's well aware that I'm right.
Romanar
15-03-2006, 23:03
I don't have kids, but if I did, I'd have a very short list of potential babysitters. Basically, my family or my GF's family. My GF's brother is the only male on that list.
Jocabia
15-03-2006, 23:04
I think he'll enjoy any attention you give him. Just like the rapist calling our distress line.

No, he won't. This guy wants fear. He wants agression. He wants threats. He wants worry. I offer none of that to him. If I walked past him on the street I wouldn't notice him. When I see people like him in the news, I don't sit up at night worrying about it. The only way he could ever incite the emotions in me that he desires is to confront me in person. And its clear he would never willingly do so.

The rapist calling your help line was trying to victimize you. And he did. That's what he wants. Fear. Anger. Worry. Sorrow. I offer him none of those. I won't go to bed at night thinking of him. I won't think of him when my computer is off or I'm offline. He doesn't haunt me. He's an oddity that I am willing to shelter others from on the internet and nothing more. Give this guy your pity. He doesn't get to be you.
Sarkhaan
15-03-2006, 23:15
I think he'll enjoy any attention you give him. Just like the rapist calling our distress line.
There is a difference. The guy calling the distress line did so because he knew how you would react, and also knew there was nothing you could do to trap him. He knew, systematically, that you would be upset by what he said, but could never stop him from talking. He knew you would try to trace the call, and so you couldn't hang up or just ignore him. He also knew to hang up before a trace could be completed.

What Jacobia is doing is the verbal equivilent of spitting on this guy. He is intelligently and very well spokenly saying "you get nothing from me", and walking away. DSN has no power once that has happened, and power is what this (and life in general) is all about. And I must say again, Jacobia, you are very, very good. *bows*
I think I will take your lead rather than ignoring him.
Jocabia
15-03-2006, 23:23
There is a difference. The guy calling the distress line did so because he knew how you would react, and also knew there was nothing you could do to trap him. He knew, systematically, that you would be upset by what he said, but could never stop him from talking. He knew you would try to trace the call, and so you couldn't hang up or just ignore him. He also knew to hang up before a trace could be completed.

What Jacobia is doing is the verbal equivilent of spitting on this guy. He is intelligently and very well spokenly saying "you get nothing from me", and walking away. DSN has no power once that has happened, and power is what this (and life in general) is all about. And I must say again, Jacobia, you are very, very good. *bows*
I think I will take your lead rather than ignoring him.

I wouldn't spit on this guy. It's all the same to him. It's what he is looking for. If I want to spit on him. Then he feels like he has the power to make me spit on him. He's not worth it. Even he knows that. This is why he considers it a victory, because he's not worth it.
Sarkhaan
15-03-2006, 23:26
I wouldn't spit on this guy. It's all the same to him. It's what he is looking for. If I want to spit on him. Then he feels like he has the power to make me spit on him. He's not worth it. Even he knows that. This is why he considers it a victory, because he's not worth it.
sorry...poor metaphor...I didn't mean it as in literally spit on him, but more take his power away.
Jocabia
15-03-2006, 23:36
He's powerless to hurt us or our children and he knows it. He feels castrated and he talks in a deep voice so we won't know. Don't fall for it. My guess is he's just some twisted teenager trying to get us worked up. He's full of crap just like all of those people in the would you be a gladiator thread or whatever it's called. They talk about how they would love to fight to death and kill someone but we all know it's just bs internet bravado. Treat him like you treat them.
Moto the Wise
15-03-2006, 23:42
I feel I have to step in here. This thread has dissolved into a blatant attack on a forum member, based on little apparent evidence. He has admitted he has a problem. Quite a brave thing to do, even if it is anonamously on an internet forum. He asks if he is evil for having such unusual desires. He is told that he is looking for justification for his acts, and labeled a molester. Even though all he did was admit to his feeling and look, to be frank, for pity. I have not seen any other of his threads, I cannot comment, but this is a decent thread, about the nature of sexist thoughts over some parts of his life. Perhaps he made it because he wonders if he would have the chance, if he would be tempted. Something which he wants to avoid. Or perhaps it is unrelated, simply something he thought of, which seemed interesting. Unless I can be shown anything worse he has done I must condemn such bullying attacks upon him. I really am quite annoyed. He has done nothing to show that he is a child molester, he has done the equivelent of standing up and saying: "I have an alcohol problem", and you appear to have done the eqivilent of saying he must be a drunk driver and a danger to us all. Please re-think your accusations before voicing them, or at least give a link to any distasteful behaviour that he might have done.
Sinuhue
15-03-2006, 23:45
Please re-think your accusations before voicing them, or at least give a link to any distasteful behaviour that he might have done.
Do the work yourself. Utilise the search function, and read some of his other posts.
Jocabia
15-03-2006, 23:50
I feel I have to step in here. This thread has dissolved into a blatant attack on a forum member, based on little apparent evidence. He has admitted he has a problem. Quite a brave thing to do, even if it is anonamously on an internet forum. He asks if he is evil for having such unusual desires. He is told that he is looking for justification for his acts, and labeled a molester. Even though all he did was admit to his feeling and look, to be frank, for pity. I have not seen any other of his threads, I cannot comment, but this is a decent thread, about the nature of sexist thoughts over some parts of his life. Perhaps he made it because he wonders if he would have the chance, if he would be tempted. Something which he wants to avoid. Or perhaps it is unrelated, simply something he thought of, which seemed interesting. Unless I can be shown anything worse he has done I must condemn such bullying attacks upon him. I really am quite annoyed. He has done nothing to show that he is a child molester, he has done the equivelent of standing up and saying: "I have an alcohol problem", and you appear to have done the eqivilent of saying he must be a drunk driver and a danger to us all. Please re-think your accusations before voicing them, or at least give a link to any distasteful behaviour that he might have done.

He openly admits that he likes and intends to in the future victimize children. If you're curious then seek out his name. No, he won't get any consideration when he starts a thread about children after declaring such a thing. If one does not wish to be treated as a child molestor, one should not proudly declare that they are one and that they think that there is nothing wrong with it.

No one is reacting to an admission of urges. His admission is that he is GOING to victimize in the future. And that he thinks it is okay. He proudly admits in this thread that he goes out his way to waste the time of groups that try to prevent the 'problem' you talk about.

Your analogy is a little sad. But, hey, let's extend it anyway. He didn't say "I have a problem." He said, I'm an alcoholic and you all have a problem if you don't like it. Not only that, but I will do whatever I can to thwart efforts to keep drunk drivers off the road because they have every right to drive drunk. Your attempts to downplay what he is and what he espouses make me wonder if you even read the thread you claim is attacking our friendly neighborhood scavenger.
PsychoticDan
15-03-2006, 23:50
I feel I have to step in here. This thread has dissolved into a blatant attack on a forum member, based on little apparent evidence. He has admitted he has a problem.
Dude...

The guy admits he wants to molest children and does not think there's anything wrong with it...

I mean, C'mon...:confused:
Jocabia
15-03-2006, 23:51
Dude...

The guy admits he wants to molest children and does not think there's anything wrong with it...

I mean, C'mon...:confused:

The logic there is missing, no? Apparently, it's possilbe to proudly declare you have a "problem" that you have no intention of addressing and that you think people who think it is a "problem" should get bent.
Sarkhaan
15-03-2006, 23:52
I feel I have to step in here. This thread has dissolved into a blatant attack on a forum member, based on little apparent evidence. He has admitted he has a problem. Quite a brave thing to do, even if it is anonamously on an internet forum. He asks if he is evil for having such unusual desires. He is told that he is looking for justification for his acts, and labeled a molester. Even though all he did was admit to his feeling and look, to be frank, for pity. I have not seen any other of his threads, I cannot comment, but this is a decent thread, about the nature of sexist thoughts over some parts of his life. Perhaps he made it because he wonders if he would have the chance, if he would be tempted. Something which he wants to avoid. Or perhaps it is unrelated, simply something he thought of, which seemed interesting. Unless I can be shown anything worse he has done I must condemn such bullying attacks upon him. I really am quite annoyed. He has done nothing to show that he is a child molester, he has done the equivelent of standing up and saying: "I have an alcohol problem", and you appear to have done the eqivilent of saying he must be a drunk driver and a danger to us all. Please re-think your accusations before voicing them, or at least give a link to any distasteful behaviour that he might have done.you think we all gang up on him at random? Try searching his post history. This isn't exactly an isolated thing.
Dempublicents1
15-03-2006, 23:53
I feel I have to step in here. This thread has dissolved into a blatant attack on a forum member, based on little apparent evidence. He has admitted he has a problem. Quite a brave thing to do, even if it is anonamously on an internet forum.

Wrong. He has not admitted he has a problem. In fact, he has point-blank stated that it is no problem at all - that he should be allowed to act on his compulsions because, he says, there isn't a thing wrong with them and there is no reason that children shouldn't be having sex with adults (so long as the adults are tested for STD's, he says).

He asks if he is evil for having such unusual desires.

Where did he ask for that? All I have seen is him saying that he is not evil and that we, in fact, are evil in wanting to protect children from those like him.

He is told that he is looking for justification for his acts, and labeled a molester. Even though all he did was admit to his feeling and look, to be frank, for pity.

Once again, where did you see him ask for pity?

I have not seen any other of his threads, I cannot comment,

Ok then. How do you know what he has and has not said on the subject of child molestation?

but this is a decent thread, about the nature of sexist thoughts over some parts of his life. Perhaps he made it because he wonders if he would have the chance, if he would be tempted. Something which he wants to avoid.

Considering that he has said the exact opposite - that he does *not* want to avoid sex with children, I'm going to have to go with a no on this one too.

Or perhaps it is unrelated, simply something he thought of, which seemed interesting.

It might be unrelated, but I doubt it. Given his habits, I have a feeling that he intended to turn this thread to yet another molestation thread. Of course, pretty much everyone said that they would have no more problem with a male than a female babysitter, so he hasn't had the chance to jump in and say, "Why? Because you think they would have sex?"

Unless I can be shown anything worse he has done I must condemn such bullying attacks upon him. I really am quite annoyed. He has done nothing to show that he is a child molester, he has done the equivelent of standing up and saying: "I have an alcohol problem", and you appear to have done the eqivilent of saying he must be a drunk driver and a danger to us all.

No, someone who says they have an alcohol problem admits that it is a problem. The equivalent here would be someone who stood up and said, "I drink lots and lots of alcohol, so much that I am never sober. But it's not a problem. In fact, I'm proud of it. I like it. And I fantasize about driving around drunk. I think I should be legally allowed to drive around drunk."

Please re-think your accusations before voicing them, or at least give a link to any distasteful behaviour that he might have done.

Go into the "for Nevrun" thread posted by him for a start.
Gauthier
15-03-2006, 23:55
Do the work yourself. Utilise the search function, and read some of his other posts.

Adding to what Sinuhue has said, you might also note the OP's tendency to dismiss any findings that indicate pedophilia is damaging to the victims and constant push for the notion that minors can consent to sex even before puberty.
Sinuhue
16-03-2006, 00:23
Go into the "for Nevrun" thread posted by him for a start.
Aforementioned thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=472173&highlight=Nervun).
OceanDrive2
16-03-2006, 00:39
Would you let a man.. baby-sit your little girl or boy?
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I read 5 pages and most answers look like this.
Absolutely... ...Same for a woman.yes..I would,..
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Interesting...

I ll do the honors then.
Would you let a man.. baby-sit your little girl or boy?No.
Bobs Own Pipe
16-03-2006, 00:41
Well, I sure as Hell wouldn't let HIM babysit anybody's kids... though I've been called upon to babysit, on numerous occasions.
Infinite Revolution
16-03-2006, 00:43
Would you let a man baby sit your little girl or boy?

of course - theirs no reason to discriminate according to gender in such a decision. the son of one of my mum's friends was a babysitter and was quite successful - he saved up enough money doing that to go travelling around south america for a year.
Erastide
16-03-2006, 00:52
Given that there is no real discussion developing here aside from a discussion of DSN that is irrelevant to the actual topic, this thread is being closed.