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Im standing for election in 2016.

Here are my policies.
ROUGHLY.

Would you vote for me?


Intellectual Socialist Party


Policies

BUSINESS
Ban Private Healthcare.
Ban Private Schooling
Average wage rise.
Corporation tax increase for international corporations.
Small-Business subsidy to counter Average wage rise, paid for by Corporation Tax rise.
Inheritance of business only possible by those who have worked there at some point, or clearly intended to work there.
NATIONAL
Change National Anthem. Rule Britannia.
Uncompulsorize Welsh
Politics introduced into National Curriculum, PSE lessons start earlier to cover this.
Voting Age 16. and eventually 15.
Children attend compulsory school 1 year earlier.
Review Devolutionary Powers, grant more or less accordingly.
Referendum Euro.
Homeless shelters MarkII. Self sustaining shelters, count as an address. No tax. Spartan living conditions, Must repay eventually (Like student loans) only 5% of income may be used on Vices. (Drink, Cigarettes Ect.) temporary solution, closed to those who do not search for jobs.


PRIVET LIFE
Print licenses for smokers, No New Smokers, No New Licenses. Cut funding completely from government awareness of smoking.
Legalize Gay Marriage, recognize in every way (Other than religious)
Criminalize all Drugs, but for addicts they can be taken slowly off the drug and put into rehab voluntarily.
Alcohol legal at 16
Total Ban on Guns for Civilian usage.
Homeland defence. No amount of harm is too grievous when issued against a criminal, however once the criminal is unconscious, bound or disabled any further acts are criminal.

Allow fox-hunting on conditions that it can only be done in areas where foxes have killed livestock within the year.

Freedom of Speech.
Generalisation is fine, and slander of Politicians, Actors, Actresses is fine, provided the slander has no immediate repercussions (Getting someone fired, imprisoned and if untruthful slander is said, imprisoning will follow. That goes for the press too)

Home Defence—Against an armed robber, no force is too great, against an Unarmed robber, warn first then attempt to disable, if accidental injury occurs no blame will be placed unless it is painfully obvious it was intended.

To discriminate against an Individual because of there Colour, Creed, Sex, Religion or Sexual Preference Is unlawful, to generalise about a denomination of peoples is fine, if extremely discouraged.

Referendum Euthanasia.

IMMIGRATION

Open Door Policy to all War, Genocide, Famine, Natural Disaster victims, ask them if they want redirection to another country.

Open Door Policy to all Europeans within the E.U and members of the Commonwealth

Closed Door Policy to all others.

Must be able to speak English to a certain degree, unless immigrants under the first clause.

Temporary Immigration housing provided for all War and Genocide victims.

FOREIGN POLICY

Praise Commonwealth Nations, offer firm Alliances and Trade Pacts.

Offer Alliances and Trade pacts. with Brazil, Argentina, Chile and Cuba.

Open Trade with Cuba.

Review Falklands.

Slow trade with America

PRO Europe.

Possibility of European Language being agreed upon.

TAX

Mp Wage Cut. 10%. Direct to Education.

Reduce government luxury spending by the maximum amount possible.

Stick to Current tax system otherwise, If in Deficit Increase Income Tax for the Wealthiest Bracket of Society.

Due to the Average wage rise, extra money is to be spent cancelling the deficit.


ELECTIONS
Introduce a more liberal system of voting, which allows better representation of the peoples will, Possibly the Single Transferable Vote system, even though this does tend to aid the more Centrist Parties.
OR Local VS National elections where you could vote for say, I.S.P but desire a Communist councillor.

DEFENCE
Women allowed on frontlines.
Cut Weapons Research budget entirely.
Try to get firm alliances and trade pacts with Canada and all the Commonwealth nations.
Try to get firm alliances and trade pacts with the southern and central America’s
Lower Army funding. Redirect to Education, if not in deficit.

LORDS.
Recognise hereditary titles but strip powers.
Revise every 3 generations whether they are deserving of the title.
If title stripped, receive title the “Honourable”
Greatly reduce Lords powers, but allow them to appeal to the commons when ether they desire. They can have press coverage to appeal to the people.

MONARCHY
Abolish law that states a King cannot marry a catholic.

CONSTITUENCY REFERENDUM
Constituencies may referendum to the council on the following things
Church Income tax.
Museum\Art Gallery Subsidy tax.
Criminal community service.
Life imprisonment. (MEANS LIFE DAMMIT) sex criminals.

CRIMINALS
For minor crimes favour rehabilitation.
For major crimes favour deterring criminals.
For Sex Crimes (See constituency.)
Criminals shall do manual labour for the community. (See Constituency Refendum)

No. Happy?

Voted: no, im too left.

Ummm... feel free to attack or pick at individual policies, im open to changing them if im persuaded.

VOTE I.S.P

Together, we can beat the centrists.

'I'm too left' but I quite like a lot of what you say.

Why would you criminalize all drugs, yet make alcohol available at a younger age?

Why would you criminalize all drugs, yet make alcohol available at a younger age?



Because while alcohol DOES effect people physically, it is nowhere near as Mentally disabling as drugs are.

Not enough is know about drugs to be able to say "People know the dangers."
They know its dangerous, but they dont know the difference BETWEEN drugs.

Alcohol is alcohol, if it has a high percentage, stay away. Simple.

Castration and or execution of PROVEN sex criminals.

1. I'm against the death penalty on general principles.
2. Even 'proven' criminals can later be found to be innocent.
3. This will not stop most sex criminals. In the vast majority of cases sex attacks are not carried out because the attacker is horny or the victim is particularly attractive, the attacker simply likes the feeling of having power over somebody else. Castration will either lead to sex attackers buying viagra or they will simply find other was to attack and humiliate their victims (quite possibly involving violence, torture, or even murder).

Take money away from the army......so you want them to be even more poorly equiped.:upyours: :p

1. I'm against the death penalty on general principles.
2. Even 'proven' criminals can later be found to be innocent.
3. This will not stop most sex criminals. In the vast majority of cases sex attacks are not carried out because the attacker is horny or the victim is particularly attractive, the attacker simply likes the feeling of having power over somebody else. Castration will either lead to sex attackers buying viagra or they will simply find other was to attack and humiliate their victims (quite possibly involving violence, torture, or even murder).


Which is why i left it to referendum.
On the OTHER hand.



1. If you got raped wouldnt you want the guy to suffer, wouldnt ANYONE?
2. Prison sentancing means ****all these days, look at the recent scandal of sex offenders working in schools.
3. i hadnt considered this and i shall now, it will most probobly either have no effect or change my opinion slightly.

Homeless shelters MarkII. Self sustaining shelters, count as an address. No tax. Spartan living conditions, Must repay eventually (Like student loans) only 5% of income may be used on Vices. (Drink, Cigarettes Ect.) temporary solution, closed to those who do not search for jobs.

Now this is one of the best ideas I've heard for a long time. I'm going to adopt this into my personal idealogy. :cool:

Take money away from the army......so you want them to be even more poorly equiped.:upyours: :p

I see no point in the armed forces in this day and age.
besides.
Who the fuck is going to INVADE britain?
We got europe and america on our side and if they turned against us were fucked anyway.

I am a socialist libertarian. You got my vote if you ever do it! :p

Which is why i left it to referendum.
On the OTHER hand.

1. If you got raped wouldnt you want the guy to suffer, wouldnt ANYONE?

Lynch mobs seldom give good advice on the running of a legal system.

2. Prison sentancing means ****all these days, look at the recent scandal of sex offenders working in schools.

Then the solution is to change the prison system, not descend to levels of barbarism rarely seen outside of Iran.

3. i hadnt considered this and i shall now, it will most probobly either have no effect or change my opinion slightly.

Think on it, if it's true then your scheme is based on anger and revenge, not justice and deterrant.

Now this is one of the best ideas I've heard for a long time. I'm going to adopt this into my personal idealogy. :cool:

Thanks.
It took 3 hours waiting for a bus chatting with a homeless dude to figure it out.

Just because noones gonna invade doesnt mean the military isnt needed, and fuck pouring it in to education 95% are fucking muppets going in schools now arent worth the effort, they dont care about education as they can 'easily' get a job when they leave or live in a dream world and think everything will magically happen.

Ban Private Healthcare.
Ban Private Schooling

I'm never going to be a fan of this. Both give many people a chance where state schools/hospitals will fail. Plus I am a private school kid, so unlikely to support the cancelation of my superior education, which I got for being intelegent (however not for being able to spell :p )


Inheritance of business only possible by those who have worked there at some point, or clearly intended to work there.

Who gets the business when it is not inherited? What if the heir wants to sell the business?


Criminalize all Drugs, but for addicts they can be taken slowly off the drug and put into rehab voluntarily. Alcohol legal at 16

What of asprin? That is a drug. And so is alcohol. And caffine... How do you define a 'drug' for the purpose of making them illegal?


Total Ban on Guns for Civilian usage.

Again not a fan. In my opinion guns are tools, nothing more. With some inteligence and a bit of imagination you can create a nasty weapon out of anything (bleach filled supersoaker?). I oppose the criminalisation of guns and their legitamate users.


Homeland defence. No amount of harm is too grievous when issued against a criminal, however once the criminal is unconscious, bound or disabled any further acts are criminal.

So torture is now legal when on a criminal as long as they don't fall unconscious? Don't like the sound of that...


Freedom of Speech.
Generalisation is fine, and slander of Politicians, Actors, Actresses is fine, provided the slander has no immediate repercussions (Getting someone fired, imprisoned and if untruthful slander is said, imprisoning will follow. That goes for the press too)

What if someone has just made a mistake? Is misinformed? Etc. I myself feel freedom of speech needs to be more free than this.


To discriminate against an Individual because of there Colour, Creed, Sex, Religion or Sexual Preference Is unlawful, to generalise about a denomination of peoples is fine, if extremely discouraged.

What do you classify as discrimination? How can you police this? I am more a favourite of taking the freedom of speech option, untill it crosses over into harrassment, for which there are already laws.





Closed Door Policy to all others.

So no-one from china can ever live in england? Why? I see no reason for this.


ELECTIONS
Introduce a more liberal system of voting, which allows better representation of the peoples will, Possibly the Single Transferable Vote system, even though this does tend to aid the more Centrist Parties.
OR Local VS National elections where you could vote for say, I.S.P but desire a Communist councillor.

Interesting, but difficult to implement. I'd like to hear more.


Cut Weapons Research budget entirely.

Why? If we are going to get an army it should be up-to-date.


LORDS.
Recognise hereditary titles but strip powers.
Revise every 3 generations whether they are deserving of the title.
If title stripped, receive title the “Honourable”
Greatly reduce Lords powers, but allow them to appeal to the commons when ether they desire. They can have press coverage to appeal to the people.

Is this house of lords or just lords? Because I feel the house of lords needs more power, not less.


Castration and or execution of PROVEN sex criminals.


If we don't execute muderers, why sex offenders? They have not killed anyone after all...



Some good stuff in there, but I have a few problems with some of the thing you have said. Please respond, I am interested in this.

I have some questions.
1. If all civilians are banned from owning or using guns, what are we supposed to hunt foxes with?
2. Are you aware that alcohol is a drug and so must be banned by your law banning all drugs?
3. Why would you ban private schools?
4. Are you aware that all slander in untruthfull by definition?
5. If guns are outlawed for civilians, what will an armed robber be armed with?
6. If the robber has illegally possessed a firearm, how am I supposed to defend myself?
7. Why do you have a closed door policy toward non-EU citizens?

I am not a Brittain so my opinions may not have been asked for, but I can honestly say that if I was I would definitely NOT vote for you.

I'm never going to be a fan of this. Both give many people a chance where state schools/hospitals will fail. Plus I am a private school kid, so unlikely to support the cancelation of my superior education, which I got for being intelegent (however not for being able to spell :p )

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Meh. Its just unfair and it takes good qualified teachers away from Public Schooling and healthcare.
Plus the NHS pays for peopel to become doctors, for them to become private is just an insult.
AT LEAST serve a few years in the NHS

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Who gets the business when it is not inherited? What if the heir wants to sell the business?
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A. The managers.
B. This is also acceptable i suppose.



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What of asprin? That is a drug. And so is alcohol. And caffine... How do you define a 'drug' for the purpose of making them illegal?
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Now thats just being pedantic ;)

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Again not a fan. In my opinion guns are tools, nothing more. With some inteligence and a bit of imagination you can create a nasty weapon out of anything (bleach filled supersoaker?). I oppose the criminalisation of guns and their legitamate users.
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Pointless trying to justify this. you either agree or dont.

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So torture is now legal when on a criminal as long as they don't fall unconscious? Don't like the sound of that...
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He could tie himself up :p then hed be ok.

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What if someone has just made a mistake? Is misinformed? Etc. I myself feel freedom of speech needs to be more free than this.
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I should put Knowledgably supplying wrong info.


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What do you classify as discrimination? How can you police this? I am more a favourite of taking the freedom of speech option, untill it crosses over into harrassment, for which there are already laws.
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Active discrimination, IE. not letting someone have a job, hitting them ect.
Think and say what you like.




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So no-one from china can ever live in england? Why? I see no reason for this.
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Because... well. BECAUSE. Commonwealth (Actually, i should state this includes America and Ireland as well.) and E.U are the only guys we should acknowledge the EXSISTANCE of.


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Interesting, but difficult to implement. I'd like to hear more.
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Not at all difficult.
Just need an extra ballot paper.
One for Mps.
One for Local Councillors.
If you think your wasting a vote voting for a Commie as MP, but you want SOME commie goverment, you can elect him as Councillor.

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Why? If we are going to get an army it should be up-to-date.
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We dont need an army in my opinion.

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Is this house of lords or just lords? Because I feel the house of lords needs more power, not less.
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Both.

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If we don't execute muderers, why sex offenders? They have not killed anyone after all...
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This has been updated


Some good stuff in there, but I have a few problems with some of the thing you have said. Please respond, I am interested in this.

I have some questions.
1. If all civilians are banned from owning or using guns, what are we supposed to hunt foxes with?
2. Are you aware that alcohol is a drug and so must be banned by your law banning all drugs?
3. Why would you ban private schools?
4. Are you aware that all slander in untruthfull by definition?
5. If guns are outlawed for civilians, what will an armed robber be armed with?
6. If the robber has illegally possessed a firearm, how am I supposed to defend myself?
7. Why do you have a closed door policy toward non-EU citizens?

I am not a Brittain so my opinions may not have been asked for, but I can honestly say that if I was I would definitely NOT vote for you.

Please dont take part in the poll unless you are british.
In awnser to your questions.

1. Thats kind of the idea.
2. Meh. You know what i mean.
3. Read the above.
4. Yeh i am. its a mistake soz.
5. a talkie toaster :rolleyes: what the hell do you think!?
6.Its really damn hard to own guns here anyway so :rolleyes:
7. Towards non E.U, Commonwealth, Americans and Irish.
Because i believe we need to draw the line somewhere.

eh? Nah... thanks, but no thanks.

Ban private healthcare and schooling? Why? If you can tax the rich and then they don't use the system, great. And banning them just implies that the state provided alternatives are sub-standard.

Average wage increase: How are you going to do that - inflation? :rolleyes:

I can't quite remember, but I think Rule Britannia is racist and incredibly colonialist. A worse choice than God Save the King/Queen.

Sending kids to school 1 year earlier is not really a good idea. I better idea would be to review how kids start school. The current system fails those who are born late in the academic year.

You want a referendum on the Euro? Might as well just save yourself some money and say no.

Who does licensing smokers help except for whitehall, and giving them more jobs to fill?

Criminalise all drugs? What's a drug? Asprin is a drug. So is caffeine. Both can be toxic too.

Your Homeland defense is essentially legalising murder in self-defense. The redefinition of reasonable force that happened last year was good enough.


Your first clause doesn't relate to immigrants. We call people under that definition refugees.

You want to praise Mugabe? Seriously?

Why do you want to slow trade with the US? More importantly, how would you slow trade with the US?

What counts as luxury spending? The NHS?

No. Just no. The single transferable vote system is confusing as hell. I've worked at polling station. And the amount of time I've had to spend explaining the whole system to everyone. If you were going to reform then I'd reform the House of Lords and make it an elected body which was elected by proportional proportional representation.
Your national Vs. local system is what we already have.

Monarchy: hasn't that law already been abolished. I know that Catholics can take up the throne now.

Sorry, but did you make all of that up on the spot without researching at all? It just seems like it was all decided on a whim. Well at least we'll have the Sir Humfreys to keep you under control should you ever gain power.

Your policy is insane. You want to have absolutely no military, drop all weapons research, and then ingore every other country but the Commonwealth and a few others? That's great; when China or Russia get's pissed off and invades, we're screwed.

7. Towards non E.U, Commonwealth, Americans and Irish.
Because i believe we need to draw the line somewhere.Why do you need to draw a line? Besides, Ireland is in the EU, and you can't allow an Irish person entry to work and live in the UK as that would be breaking the Treaty of Rome. I thought you said you were pro-EU. What's wrong with the Americans and the Irish anyway?

Rule britannia isnt at all racist, its Anti-Enslavement. Listen to it.

"RULLLE BRITANNIA BRITANNIA RULES THE WAVES" --> chorus.


Britons ne'er be slaves, ect.

But who is Britannia? In her current form she is a symbol that was created in the late 1600s to symbolise empire, militarism and economics. Rule Britannia, huh?

Meh. Its just unfair and it takes good qualified teachers away from Public Schooling and healthcare.
Plus the NHS pays for peopel to become doctors, for them to become private is just an insult.
AT LEAST serve a few years in the NHS

You can't get into private without having done some NHS. People like to know what they are buying. I do see your point about good qualified doctors, but untill both the education system is sorted and the healthcare, these are the only escapes from a government run disaster.


A. The managers.

What if the guy who died ran the company on his own?



Now thats just being pedantic ;)

Yes...but remember people will ask what you mean. If you are going to put it as law, you need to be totally specific.


Pointless trying to justify this. you either agree or dont.

Well we could discuss it if you like, but I agree this might not be the place.


He could tie himself up :p then hed be ok.

Not an answer to give in question time :p Work on this one.


I should put Knowledgably supplying wrong info.

How do you prove he knew? What system do you have for determining on case by case? Or is it overwelming evidence needed. If so, sounds good. Punishment for blatant lies.


Active discrimination, IE. not letting someone have a job, hitting them ect.
Think and say what you like.

How can you tell why they didn't get the job? They might have been angry and would have hit anyone also. Finally, if someone is through no fault of their own racist, you can't force them to hire people they feel uncomfortable around to work in their business.


Because... well. BECAUSE. Commonwealth (Actually, i should state this includes America and Ireland as well.) and E.U are the only guys we should acknowledge the EXSISTANCE of.

Not going to be popular.



We dont need an army in my opinion.

Why not? There are some threats possible from the middle-east, don't want to be seen as a walk in the park to invade. Also the army does internal work, anti-terrorism work.

Again, I am playing the devil's advocate a bit here (although some I genuinely wouldn't want at all). You need to be ready for these kind of questions.

But who is Britannia? In her current form she is a symbol that was created in the late 1600s to symbolise empire, militarism and economics. Rule Britannia, huh?

Britannia is a personification of the islands.

The fact the empire used her for baaaad things. (BAD MY FUCKIN ASS WE GAVE CULTURE To ya'll!) doesnt mean we cant use her.

Britannia is a personification of the islands.

The fact the empire used her for baaaad things. (BAD MY FUCKIN ASS WE GAVE CULTURE To ya'll!) doesnt mean we cant use her.There we go. The deluded and jingoistic xenophobe within you has emerged.

At the moment my policies are just ideologies, ready to be formed.

we'll have 12 possible-mps running in the 2016 election and hopefully a good 70 in 2020. We want to be in power by 2032.

There we go. The deluded and jingoistic xenophobe within you has emerged.


"We dont want to go to war, but BY JINGO if we do, we've got the men we've got the ships and we've got the money too!"

Jingo emerged in a pretty great circumstance. Thanks Disraeli for stopping the Russians :D

Xenophobe? :(

Well stop speaking our language then.
WHICH is recognised as the most descriptive in the world.
Not to mention we introduced western ways which make economies able to compete.
PLUS. Your an american i take it, American uses Jingo as insult. HAHAHAHAAAaaawaaaiii! asshole.

Britannia is a personification of the islands.

The fact the empire used her for baaaad things. (BAD MY FUCKIN ASS WE GAVE CULTURE To ya'll!) doesnt mean we cant use her.

Ahhh, so a xenophobe and an imperialist...

Ahhh, so a xenophobic and an imperialist...

not at all.
Imperialist maybe.
Racist?
No.
Never no.
Im colourblind and proud.

PRIVET LIFE


You leave my foliage alone!

Seriously though, your policies sound like they will create a totalitarian hell. Smoking LICENSE? Private healthcare illegal? If you ever become Prime Minister I'll emigrate without hesitation.

I voted I'm too left 'cause I think the government should leave my body alone and let me smoke license free whenever I want.

You leave my foliage alone!

Seriously though, your policies sound like they will create a totalitarian hell. Smoking LICENSE? Private healthcare illegal? If you ever become Prime Minister I'll emigrate without hesitation.

License i suppose is a strong word.
More like smoking registry.
After you all die, no new smokers.

License i suppose is a strong word.
More like smoking registry.
After you all die, no new smokers.

That's totalitarian repression...

License i suppose is a strong word.
More like smoking registry.
After you all die, no new smokers.

Please explain why the government (you, in this hypothetical regime) has the right to say what I do to my body.

Besides, do you honestly think that the amount of time that your smoking legislation will exist will be longer than a human lifetime? 25% of British adults smoke tobacco, most of whom will probably be against anti-smoking legislation.

"We dont want to go to war, but BY JINGO if we do, we've got the men we've got the ships and we've got the money too!"

Jingo emerged in a pretty great circumstance. Thanks Disraeli for stopping the Russians :D

Xenophobe? :(

Well stop speaking our language then.
WHICH is recognised as the most descriptive in the world.
Not to mention we introduced western ways which make economies able to compete.
PLUS. Your an american i take it, American uses Jingo as insult. HAHAHAHAAAaaawaaaiii! asshole.Jingoism - Extreme nationalism characterized especially by a belligerent foreign policy; chauvinistic patriotism.

Xenophobe - A person unduly fearful or contemptuous of that which is foreign, especially of strangers or foreign peoples.

Thank you for asking, but I'm not American. I was, in fact, born in London and currently attend Birmingham University. I have used the word jingo and its derivatives ever since I came across it whilst reading a novel of same name by Terry Pratchett (He's a great contemporary British writer, but I'm sure you already know. Seeing as how you're so proud to be British and all).

Please explain why the government (you, in this hypothetical regime) has the right to say what I do to my body.

Besides, do you honestly think that the amount of time that your smoking legislation will exist will be longer than a human lifetime? 25% of British adults smoke tobacco, most of whom will probably be against anti-smoking legislation.

This "Hypothetical" regime will be tried in 2016.


We have the responsibility to protect one another and to make sure kids dont think its "Cool"

(BAaad personal experiences with smokers.)

I know how quick it can do its shit. I have good reasons.
Quit guys, not for youself, but for your friends.

Jingoism - Extreme nationalism characterized especially by a belligerent foreign policy; chauvinistic patriotism.

Xenophobe - A person unduly fearful or contemptuous of that which is foreign, especially of strangers or foreign peoples.

Thank you for asking, but I'm not American. I was, in fact, born in London and currently attend Birmingham University. I have used the word jingo and its derivatives ever since I came across it whilst reading a novel of same name by Terry Pratchett (He's a great contemporary British writer, but I'm sure you already know. Seeing as how you're so proud to be British and all).

Lords and Ladies was a Masterpiece ACTUALLY ;) Mort and Thud rocked too.
I wuv greebo.

Ps try this site! aint my style buut... Www.discworld.net
er... i think the site names changed but if you search Discworld Mud on google its ok.

Yeeh i'll admit im a nationalist.
I am not afraid of foreigners tho. Nor am i discriminatory.

Yeeh i'll admit im a nationalist.
I am not afraid of foreigners tho. Nor am i discriminatory.Your an american i take it, American uses Jingo as insult. HAHAHAHAAAaaawaaaiii! asshole.politician (read hypocrite)

Well stop speaking our language then.

Ba bhreá liom ach rinne an impreacht(go bhfuil tú ag moladh) bhur ndícheall chun é a marú agus anois níl ach Béarla ag an cuid is mó do Éireannaigh.

(translation: I'd love too but the Empire(that you're praising) did it's best to kill it and now most Irish people only have English. )

(BAD MY FUCKIN ASS WE GAVE CULTURE To ya'll!)
We had our own culture. Despite the British Empire we still have it.

What is English culture anyway? You have the english language and???
TEA? An import! Indian food, also an import (well duh!?)

This "Hypothetical" regime will be tried in 2016.


We have the responsibility to protect one another and to make sure kids dont think its "Cool"

(BAaad personal experiences with smokers.)

I know how quick it can do its shit. I have good reasons.
Quit guys, not for youself, but for your friends.

As a British smoker I am already painfully aware of the consequences of smoking. Right now I'm looking at a 20 pack of Marlb. reds and I'd say at least 50% of the packet's surface area is anti-smoking warnings.

We know they're terrible for our health, and given that we are adequately informed, we as rational adults should be permitted to make a decision.

Smoking is already illegal for kids. How will making it illegal for adults stop kids from the smoking peer pressure?

As a British smoker I am already painfully aware of the consequences of smoking. Right now I'm looking at a 20 pack of Marb. reds and I'd say at least 50% of the packet's surface area is anti-smoking warnings.

We know they're terrible for our health, and given that we are adequately informed, we as rational adults should be permitted to make a decision.

Smoking is already illegal for kids. How will making it illegal for adults stop kids from the smoking peer pressure?

Because in a hundred years when you all die off we can stop making it.

Bloody hell, this is odd. A collusion of socialism and nationalism....:rolleyes:

Wow. I didn't think it was possible to fit so many bad ideas on a single post, but you proved me wrong. Kudos to you, sir.

Bloody hell, this is odd. A collusion of socialism and nationalism....:rolleyes:

its a good one though :)

Because in a hundred years when you all die off we can stop making it.

We? The government doesn't make tobacco (although the bastards still make a hell of a profit off it).

Bloody hell, this is odd. A collusion of socialism and nationalism....:rolleyes:
AHH! Are you saying what I think you're saying! :eek: It's social nationalism! :D

We? The government doesn't make tobacco (although the bastards still make a hell of a profit off it).

We the british.

Yes the government are making a profit, i think this would be countered by the increase in revenue from taxes due to the average wage rise.

AHH! Are you saying what I think you're saying! :eek: It's social nationalism! :D

Essentially.

We the british.

Yes the government are making a profit, i think this would be countered by the increase in revenue from taxes due to the average wage rise.

You're still advocating a totalitarian regime that control's people's lives to a great extent and limit's their freedoms, as well as advocating an extremely short-sighted and xenophobic foreign policy that would ultimately lead either to Britain's dissolution into chaos or invasion by an angered foreign power, or one that saw an opportunity as we had no military power.

Frankly if it were a toss up between you and the BNP....it'd be an extremely tough choice. I'd probably take up arms against you...which you wouldn't be able to stop as Britain would have no military...

We the british.

Tell that to employees of L&B, British American Tobacco and all the others. I'm sure their thousands of jobs are a terrible burden which they can't wait to get rid of right? Once you free them from their shackles they can go live in those homeless shelters with all the out-of-work private doctors and and tutors.

Sorry, but I'm afraid I have to vote against you for a number of reasons; the first being the House of Lords. Citizens do not always know what's best for them, and raw democracy needs to be met with restriction by the legal experts.

Secondly, the ban on Private Schooling. You'll need to severely improve conditions in not just the public school system but every single public school in the country in order for such a venture to succeed.

Third, you've banned private Healthcare but mentioned nothing whatsoever about Public Healthcare. How would you tackle the current issues in the NHS?

Fourth, you're making discrimination unlawful? How the heck do you plan to enforce that? Furthermore, you yourself are quite clearly guilty of discriminating against people with a sexual preference towards children. I reckon the wording of that policy needs to be rephrased.

Fifth, are you seriously suggesting refusing Americans permission to immigrate?

Six, as has been mentioned, the docking of military funding. I reckon if anything, we need to spend less on current forms of warfare (ie, vehicles, firearms etc.) but in exchange for that to place more emphasis on weapon research. Can't leave the country wide open at the minute. I suggest focusing on purely defensive technologies to start with (effective non-lethal anti-personnel weaponry?).

Finally, I'm not entirely convinced your literary skills are up to the job of penning legislation just yet. I'm sure it'll improve when you're older, but right now I see it as a major problem if my country's legal documents look like what I'm reading at the minute.

Generally pretty good- some issues with it though- like being pro-gay marriage but wanting to open trade with Cuba, whose leader hates homosexuals just as much as capitalism. Ah well, still less inconsistent than the three main parties, so its got my vote lol

Sorry, but I'm afraid I have to vote against you for a number of reasons; the first being the House of Lords. Citizens do not always know what's best for them, and raw democracy needs to be met with restriction by the legal experts.

Secondly, the ban on Private Schooling. You'll need to severely improve conditions in not just the public school system but every single public school in the country in order for such a venture to succeed.

Third, you've banned private Healthcare but mentioned nothing whatsoever about Public Healthcare. How would you tackle the current issues in the NHS?

Fourth, you're making discrimination unlawful? How the heck do you plan to enforce that? Furthermore, you yourself are quite clearly guilty of discriminating against people with a sexual preference towards children. I reckon the wording of that policy needs to be rephrased.

Fifth, are you seriously suggesting refusing Americans permission to immigrate?

Six, as has been mentioned, the docking of military funding. I reckon if anything, we need to spend less on current forms of warfare (ie, vehicles, firearms etc.) but in exchange for that to place more emphasis on weapon research. Can't leave the country wide open at the minute. I suggest focusing on purely defensive technologies to start with (effective non-lethal anti-personnel weaponry?).

Finally, I'm not entirely convinced your literary skills are up to the job of penning legislation just yet. I'm sure it'll improve when you're older, but right now I see it as a major problem if my country's legal documents look like what I'm reading at the minute.

Firstly, possibly. But democracy is best.
Secondly, The ban on private schooling would mean better teachers and resources would be available. Plus i plan a lot of funding to go into education.
INTELLECTUAL socialist party.
Three, the NHS is fine. No problems.
Four, Racial and Sexual discrimination is what i actually said.
five, as stated this is a typo.
six, your either for it or against it. To attempt to persuade you is a waste of time.
Seven, i accidently copied a draft instead of the finished product. which has pictures btw.
Posters go out 2015 folks.

the NHS is fine. No problems.

Waiting lists

You're still advocating a totalitarian regime that control's people's lives to a great extent and limit's their freedoms, as well as advocating an extremely short-sighted and xenophobic foreign policy that would ultimately lead either to Britain's dissolution into chaos or invasion by an angered foreign power, or one that saw an opportunity as we had no military power.

Frankly if it were a toss up between you and the BNP....it'd be an extremely tough choice. I'd probably take up arms against you...which you wouldn't be able to stop as Britain would have no military...

Hah.
Id like to point out a regime cant be totalitarian as long as its elected.
So stop throwing the word around. k?

Waiting lists

Agreed, but the doctors from the privet sectors and all their equipment would sort this out.

-Snip-
You're definitely a politician. Not necessarily one I'd vote for, but you'd fit right in with the Labour party.

Hah.
Id like to point out a regime cant be totalitarian as long as its elected.
So stop throwing the word around. k?
3rd Reich?

Agreed, but the doctors from the privet sectors and all their equipment would sort this out.

Damn straight they would, but your legislation will put them out of business.

3rd Reich?

Ok, scratch that.
Elected and Reelected according to UN standards. Happy?

Damn straight they would, but your legislation will put them out of business.

They would be government payed

Damn straight they would, but your legislation will put them out of business.

They would be government payed

Hah.
Id like to point out a regime cant be totalitarian as long as its elected.
So stop throwing the word around. k?

Totalitarianism has nothing to do with method used in getting power. Totalitarianism is where the government controls the lives of the people in insulting detail. You can take power through coup, revolution, election or whatever. If you want to ban smoking, private health and private education then you're a totalitarian.

Totalitarianism has nothing to do with method used in getting power. Totalitarianism is where the government controls the lives of the people in insulting detail. You can take power through coup, revolution, election or whatever. If you want to ban smoking, private health and private education then you're a totalitarian.

EVEN though i---> Lower alcohol age and voting age, am pro-gay rights?
Yeh. sure. Nice. Good logic there pally

"We dont want to go to war, but BY JINGO if we do, we've got the men we've got the ships and we've got the money too!"

Jingo emerged in a pretty great circumstance. Thanks Disraeli for stopping the Russians :D
*snip*

... but you won't be able to take advantage of this because you've abolished the army (and, presumably, the navy too) and our current armaments, if any, would be hopelessly out of date.

I would not vote for you. You would turn Britain into a basketcase nation within a year.

They would be government payed

What makes you think they're just going to come and work for the government, probably for less money? And how do we know that henious levels of bureaucracy won't render their efforts and equipment less effective than they were when they managed themselves?

Also, what about acupunturists, faith healers and all that malarky? Will they be criminalized as well?

Bye the looks of the poll i'll be ok.
Thank god for the first past the post system (fires some guns) YYeyyeeeehaaaww

What makes you think they're just going to come and work for the government, probably for less money? And how do we know that henious levels of bureaucracy won't render their efforts and equipment less effective than they were when they managed themselves?

Also, what about acupunturists, faith healers and all that malarky? Will they be criminalized as well?
Alternative medicines are not classified as "Healthcare"
You cannot spend your health insurance on it.

Well the equipment will be useful at least. and god knows we have enough doctors. :rolleyes:

I am not afraid of foreigners tho. Nor am i discriminatory.


but you said that you would have a closed door policy to non-EU nationals. You are discriminatory

EVEN though i---> Lower alcohol age and voting age, am pro-gay rights?
Yeh. sure. Nice. Good logic there pally

Well you're still a smoking and private enterprise totalitarian. Civil liberties aren't just figures which, when you support enough of them clear you of totalitarian leanings.

Another thing, your alcohol legislation and smoking legislation highlight an inconsistency in your philosophy. Why is it ok for 16 year olds to contract cirrhosis of the liver, brain damage and all the other drinking baggage, but not ok for them to grab lung cancer?

Bye the looks of the poll i'll be ok.
Thank god for the first past the post system (fires some guns) YYeyyeeeehaaawwAm I right in understanding that first past the post means winning the majority of the vote... only 15% does not a majority make. I'm confused. :confused:

Hah.
Id like to point out a regime cant be totalitarian as long as its elected.
So stop throwing the word around. k?

The Nazi's were elected, and became totalitarian. The Italian Fascists became totalitarian to some extent, and they were elected. Think before you speak.

Well the equipment will be useful at least. and god knows we have enough doctors. :rolleyes:

You're going to commandeer their equipment without their permission? Eminent domain? Oh, you non-totalitarian you.

And judging by year-long waiting lists for vital surgery, I'd say we have a dire doctor shortage.

The government is becomming too centrist!
They have abandoned their ideologies and reason and have made a one-legged dash for the middle-ground!
WHY do we still support them?
WHY do we still vote for them?
It is because they are the only SERIOUS and managed parties around!
the I.S.P offers an alternative.

The government, in its ridiculous dash for the center, has mimicked the Weimar Republic!
We all know that this was a stupid thing to do, a Centrist government with no alternatives ultimately leads to extremist parties taking charge!
That is something we as a nation do not want, need or desire!

If you elect the ISP, a Socialist, Education First party, we will never abandon our ideology so lightly as the Conservatives, Labour and the Liberals.
We will stand firm by our beliefs and not take advantage of you, the citizens of this great country!

The government has sold our national pride for a few dollars to the Americans! i say we reverse this, we should IMMEDIATELY withdraw troops from Iraq and start a more Pro-Europe foreign policy.

but you said that you would have a closed door policy to non-EU nationals. You are discriminatory

Indeed. Personally, my door would be well and truly closed, with deportations of all immigrants under fifth generation.

What I think.
Im standing for election in 2016.

Here are my policies.
ROUGHLY.

Would you vote for me?
NO!

Intellectual Socialist Party


Policies

BUSINESS
Ban Private Healthcare.
Ban Private Schooling
So instead of making the public sector better ban the private?

Average wage rise.

Why? How? And that doesn't work becuase when wages go up inflation matches it.

Corporation tax increase for international corporations.
Why? That'll lose jobs

Small-Business subsidy to counter Average wage rise, paid for by Corporation Tax rise.

Small Business subsidy there's nothing wrong with that but raising the average wage is as I said a bad idea.

Inheritance of business only possible by those who have worked there at some point, or clearly intended to work there.

Why? What about shares of a business?

NATIONAL
Change National Anthem. Rule Britannia.
pointless
Uncompulsorize Welsh
Yay kill welsh culture! That'll be popular in wales!


Politics introduced into National Curriculum, PSE lessons start earlier to cover this.
Sure

Voting Age 16. and eventually 15.
no problem

Children attend compulsory school 1 year earlier.
no problem

Review Devolutionary Powers, grant more or less accordingly.
Referendum Euro.Can't say anything about that.


Homeless shelters MarkII. Self sustaining shelters, count as an address. No tax. Spartan living conditions, Must repay eventually (Like student loans) only 5% of income may be used on Vices. (Drink, Cigarettes Ect.) temporary solution, closed to those who do not search for jobs.
Sure, you'll still need to address almost all homelessness though


PRIVET LIFE
Print licenses for smokers, No New Smokers, No New Licenses. Cut funding completely from government awareness of smoking.
Licenses could be forged.

Legalize Gay Marriage, recognize in every way (Other than religious) sure!

Criminalize all Drugs, but for addicts they can be taken slowly off the drug and put into rehab voluntarily.That's not a change.
Alcohol legal at 16why?

Total Ban on Guns for Civilian usage.ok

Homeland defence. No amount of harm is too grievous when issued against a criminal, however once the criminal is unconscious, bound or disabled any further acts are criminal. hmm not too sure about this


Allow fox-hunting on conditions that it can only be done in areas where foxes have killed livestock within the year.
Attacks will be forced or faked by pro-hunting people


Freedom of Speech.
Generalisation is fine, and slander of Politicians, Actors, Actresses is fine, provided the slander has no immediate repercussions (Getting someone fired, imprisoned and if untruthful slander is said, imprisoning will follow. That goes for the press too) Why not malicious Slander(causing harm on purpose) is outlawed


Home Defence—Against an armed robber, no force is too great, against an Unarmed robber, warn first then attempt to disable, if accidental injury occurs no blame will be placed unless it is painfully obvious it was intended.not too sure about this

To discriminate against an Individual because of there Colour, Creed, Sex, Religion or Sexual Preference Is unlawful, to generalise about a denomination of peoples is fine, if extremely discouraged.
what do you mean by denomination of peoples?
Referendum Euthanasia.

IMMIGRATION


Open Door Policy to all War, Genocide, Famine, Natural Disaster victims, ask them if they want redirection to another country.

Open Door Policy to all Europeans within the E.U and members of the Commonwealth
Ok

Closed Door Policy to all others.

Why?

Must be able to speak English to a certain degree, unless immigrants under the first clause.
ok

Temporary Immigration housing provided for all War and Genocide victims.

How temporary?

FOREIGN POLICY

Praise Commonwealth Nations, offer firm Alliances and Trade Pacts.

Offer Alliances and Trade pacts. with Brazil, Argentina, Chile and Cuba.

Open Trade with Cuba.

Review Falklands.
Sure!

Slow trade with America
WHY!? Bad bad idea!

PRO Europe.

Good

Possibility of European Language being agreed upon.

ok

TAX

Mp Wage Cut. 10%. Direct to Education.

This makes it harder for poorer people to get into politics

Reduce government luxury spending by the maximum amount possible.

Huh?

Stick to Current tax system otherwise, If in Deficit Increase Income Tax for the Wealthiest Bracket of Society.Ok


Due to the Average wage rise, extra money is to be spent cancelling the deficit.Ok (except the Average wage rise bit!)


ELECTIONS
Introduce a more liberal system of voting, which allows better representation of the peoples will, Possibly the Single Transferable Vote system, even though this does tend to aid the more Centrist Parties.
OR Local VS National elections where you could vote for say, I.S.P but desire a Communist councillor.

Hmm, ok

DEFENCE
Women allowed on frontlines.Yes

Cut Weapons Research budget entirely.No

Try to get firm alliances and trade pacts with Canada and all the Commonwealth nations.Yeah

Try to get firm alliances and trade pacts with the southern and central America’s Sure.

Lower Army funding. Redirect to Education, if not in deficit.
No

LORDS.
Recognise hereditary titles but strip powers.
Revise every 3 generations whether they are deserving of the title.
If title stripped, receive title the “Honourable”
Greatly reduce Lords powers, but allow them to appeal to the commons when ether they desire. They can have press coverage to appeal to the people. Ok


MONARCHY
Abolish law that states a King cannot marry a catholic.
Yeah.

CONSTITUENCY REFERENDUM
Constituencies may referendum to the council on the following things
Church Income tax.
Museum\Art Gallery Subsidy tax.
Criminal community service.Yes

Life imprisonment. (MEANS LIFE DAMMIT) sex criminals.
NO it's not all Black and white there is a whole load of Gray! Judges should decide!

CRIMINALS
For minor crimes favour rehabilitation.
For major crimes favour deterring criminals.
For Sex Crimes (See constituency.)
Criminals shall do manual labour for the community. (See Constituency Refendum)Surely you want to rehabilitate and deter all crimes!

Well you're still a smoking and private enterprise totalitarian. Civil liberties aren't just figures which, when you support enough of them clear you of totalitarian leanings.

Another thing, your alcohol legislation and smoking legislation highlight an inconsistency in your philosophy. Why is it ok for 16 year olds to contract cirrhosis of the liver, brain damage and all the other drinking baggage, but not ok for them to grab lung cancer?

Im glad you asked that.


Because alcohol is easier to give up.
Been there done both done that.

Because alcohol, when used in small portions, actually BENEFITS your system.
Because alcohol has an effect on you directly causing pleasure

wheras smoking causes pain when you are away from it.
a complete 180.

We the british.


Who are this 'we the British' you refer to?

the peoples of this island are a bunch of mongrels (and I mean that in the nicest possible way :) ) being a odd mix of gaelics, vikings, french, waves of immigrants of various years, not to mention all the people who have voluntarily chosen to come here (I understand there is a wave of Eastern Europeans in Britain right now). And then there are all the second-generation people who were born here too.

How are any of those more British than any other?

and what about the class/social divides? I originally came from a working class/council estate background. I'm now a middle-class professional. Is one of those more British than the other?

And what if I feel an affiliation to another racial or ethnic group? I personally find that I now tend to have more in common with say, a black middle-class, professional from an American background than I would from a white working-class person from the UK. Does that make me more or less British?

I also don't like football, cricket or getting pissed as a fart on a Saturday night and then beating ten kinds of hell out of somebody else. Yet there are large amounts of the population of Britain who do. Who is more British?

Your ideas are naive and simplistic.

Wow. I've got an insane urge to continue a string of Nazi allusions with this guy. I think I'm turning into a Troll.

Cool.

Indeed. Personally, my door would be well and truly closed, with deportations of all immigrants under fifth generation.


So you would deport someone who has lived here all her life, attended an English school, speaks with a Cockney accent, works as a highly-paid and valuable member of society, knows no Farsi at all, and all because her great-grandfather came from India?

Seems a touch ... mean

The government is becomming too centrist!
They have abandoned their ideologies and reason and have made a one-legged dash for the middle-ground!

The government's not extreme enough? OH NOES


The government, in its ridiculous dash for the center, has mimicked the Weimar Republic!


Do you really think the majority of the voting public are nerdy enough to know much about that period of German history?


The government has sold our national pride for a few dollars to the Americans! i say we reverse this, we should IMMEDIATELY withdraw troops from Iraq and start a more Pro-Europe foreign policy.

Oh great, let's sell ourselves to Europe instead. What a great alternative.

The government's not extreme enough? OH NOES



Do you really think the majority of the voting public are nerdy enough to know much about that period of German history?



Oh great, let's sell ourselves to Europe instead. What a great alternative.

At least they are our cultural and intellectual equals :p
4 more wars! 4 more wars!

[QUPTE=Europa alpha]
Stick to Current tax system otherwise, If in Deficit Increase Income Tax for the Wealthiest Bracket of Society [Quote]

Incidentally, this is really bad.

the current system of income taxation is in need of urgent reform

Wow. I've got an insane urge to continue a string of Nazi allusions with this guy. I think I'm turning into a Troll.

Cool.

I'm not even sure if it's Trolling if it's actually based on facts. He advocates a mixture of Socialism and Nationalism - National Socialism, ie Nazi-ism. With the few changes of a weaker military and changes to foreign policy, it's all the same. Extremely xenophobic - he even hates Chavs and wants them exterminated in another thread - he has a class/race to blame everything on, like the Nazi's.

Im glad you asked that.


Because alcohol is easier to give up.
Been there done both done that.

Because alcohol, when used in small portions, actually BENEFITS your system.
Because alcohol has an effect on you directly causing pleasure

wheras smoking causes pain when you are away from it.
a complete 180.

Oh come off it. They're both very damaging to the human body, highly addictive, and both cause pleasure.

By the way, while we're on drugs, why are you keeping dope illegal? It's very easy to give up or smoke only occasionally and causes A LOT of direct pleasure.

I'm not British, but if I were the answer not be just no, but HELL NO. I mean, I say banning private anything is a downright stupid idea.

Oh come off it. They're both very damaging to the human body, highly addictive, and both cause pleasure.

By the way, while we're on drugs, why are you keeping dope illegal? It's very easy to give up or smoke only occasionally and causes A LOT of direct pleasure.

It directly affects the Mind, and im sure if you had a choice youd choose your mind over a liver.
Transplants rock.

At least they are our cultural and intellectual equals :p

That's a pretty big generalisation. The USA isn't perfect, but Americans have acomplished a hell of a lot in the last 200 years. The whole information age which is letting you have this conversation has mainly been the product of American innovation and enterprise, to name but one example.

It directly affects the Mind, and im sure if you had a choice youd choose your mind over a liver.
Transplants rock.
... Said the man advocating a ban in private healthcare.

Am I right in understanding that first past the post means winning the majority of the vote... only 15% does not a majority make. I'm confused. :confused:




First past the post produces some odd results.

Yes, it is a majority - but only of those that actually vote.

So constituency A has, say, 100 citizens eligible to vote. 15 vote Blue, 5 vote red. Blue wins the seat with 15 percent of the electorate but 75% of the vote.

But if another constituency, B, has say, 100 citizens eligible to vote but 30 people vote red and just 5 people vote blue then this will still only equal one seat even though twice as many people voted red rather than blue when compared to constituency A.

Hope that helps.

CDA

[QUOTE=Cute Dangerous Animals]First past the post produces some odd results.

Yes, it is a majority - but only of those that actually vote.

So constituency A has, say, 100 citizens eligible to vote. 15 vote Blue, 5 vote red. Blue wins the seat with 15 percent of the electorate but 75% of the vote.

But if another constituency, B, has say, 100 citizens eligible to vote but 30 people vote red and just 5 people vote blue then this will still only equal one seat even though twice as many people voted red rather than blue when compared to constituency A.

Hope that helps.




I have 15% of the vote.

Labour will have saayy 21%. (im expecting to gain at least 15.)
Liberals will have saayy 20
Conservatives in MY area 29.

Even if only 30% want me in and 70% want to have me shot
its ok i still win.
God bless democracy. Yeehaw

Basically, your policies are a mish-mash of the populist ideas of all the parties. I can't see much coherency to them. So i voted no. Sorry.

That's a pretty big generalisation. The USA isn't perfect, but Americans have acomplished a hell of a lot in the last 200 years. The whole information age which is letting you have this conversation has mainly been the product of American innovation and enterprise, to name but one example.
And Hitler Banned hunting, does that mean hes a nice guy?
NO!


Accomplished a lot.

Invasion of Mexico.
Isolationism during world war 2 (May your grandparents burn in hell for that i thank you.)(For a day at least, then they can go home.)
Invasion of Hawaii
Anti-Gay rights.
No public healthcare
Abolished slavery yeeeaaaars after we did.
Gave blacks the vote Yeaaaars after we did.
They have guns.
Plus they elected bush. Twice.
The germans elected hitler once. I forgive em for it.
Electing an asshole twice means you endorse his behaviour, once is ok, you shoulda seen it coming but its ok.

It directly affects the Mind, and im sure if you had a choice youd choose your mind over a liver.
Transplants rock.

Booze directly affects the mind. Holy crap, the stupid things you can do when you're drunk as a lord.

Long term alcohol abuse has been shown to cause permenant brain damage as well.

I have 15% of the vote
*snip*
Even if only 30% want me in and 70% want to have me shot
its ok i still win.
God bless democracy. Yeehaw

Yes, as I say, FPTP produces some odd results. But here's some great news (from my point of view) THERE IS NO WAY IN THIS OR ANY OTHER REALITY THAT YOU WOULD EVER BE VOTED INTO A POSITION OF POWER IN BRITAIN BY STANDING ON THE PLATFORM YOU HAVE ADVOCATED. And I think that's just great :D

Yes, as I say, FPTP produces some odd results. But here's some great news (from my point of view) THERE IS NO WAY IN THIS OR ANY OTHER REALITY THAT YOU WOULD EVER BE VOTED INTO A POSITION OF POWER IN BRITAIN BY STANDING ON THE PLATFORM YOU HAVE ADVOCATED. And I think that's just great :D

Well i'll lie. :)
4 years is enough to get a hell-load done you know.

Thats a joke by the way.

(May your grandparents burn in hell for that i thank you.)(For a day at least, then they can go home.)

I'm English. Let's keep them out of hell thankyou.

As for America in WWII, I refer you to Omaha beach, the pacific and all that. America did it's bit.

Booze directly affects the mind. Holy crap, the stupid things you can do when you're drunk as a lord.

Long term alcohol abuse has been shown to cause permenant brain damage as well.
Accepted and noted.

Why are you letting people do drugs but not smoke?

First past the post produces some odd results.

Yes, it is a majority - but only of those that actually vote.

So constituency A has, say, 100 citizens eligible to vote. 15 vote Blue, 5 vote red. Blue wins the seat with 15 percent of the electorate but 75% of the vote.

But if another constituency, B, has say, 100 citizens eligible to vote but 30 people vote red and just 5 people vote blue then this will still only equal one seat even though twice as many people voted red rather than blue when compared to constituency A.

Hope that helps.

CDAAnother fatality of internet sarcasm... I'm just having fun shooting fish in a barrel with this guy.

I study politcal science. I'd be worried if i didn't understand first past the post . If you wanted I could explain how qualified majority voting, proportional representation and single transferable voting work. ;)

Thanks for your thoughtfulness though. :)

edit: what you could do for me is explain why you think the tax system needs reform. I'm not too update on the tax system... mainly because I don't have to pay any. :p

So you would deport someone who has lived here all her life, attended an English school, speaks with a Cockney accent, works as a highly-paid and valuable member of society, knows no Farsi at all, and all because her great-grandfather came from India?

Seems a touch ... mean

No, no. Not entirely. An appeal process would be established to determine their economic prosperity and value to Britain.

I'd rather vote for the Monster Raving Loony Party.

If I was British... no. Too liberal, mostly.

Intellectual Socialist Party

...

PRIVET LIFE

Pffffft! :D

To be honest a lot of the stuff soudns liek the sort of ideas i had when i was 14 and before i actually started thinking about stuff properly(and before iw atched yes minister).

Even if you do get into power you will simply find yourself unable to carry out most of your ideas as a huge number of factors will combine to fustrate you. one of the more obvious is that everything is related.
A good example is your cut on Defence R&D. basically doign this will bankrupt BAE systems in a very short period of time and a weekened BAE is the last thing you want if you want to cut down ties to the US due to the fact that as asoon as BAE look like faltering then General dynamics or boeing will swoop in and pick them up, a US buy out of BAE is already a very popular idea amoungst a number of parties in the US government. IF such were to happen it would not only affect Britian's own defence provision but it will lead to a major American company having a very large share in most of the european industrial concerns (most notably you might end up Boeing owning 30% of Airbus).

Of course that is all conjecture but if you do ever get into power, as unlikely as that is, you will find entire swaths of the government apparatus telling you similar things.

personally you are totally off base if you want to cut back on MoD spending, the defence budget has had 1 or maybe 2 real rises in the past 15-20 years and it can't really go any smaller. yes the armed forces need serious reform, namely the scrapping of trident, refitting the vanguards to fire crisue missiles (like the American Ohio conversions) and the development of an air alunched tactical nuclear missile roughly simialr to the french ASAMPA to give a much cheaper and arguably mroe effective nuclear deterent and a massive increase in naval strike capability.
Of course by 2016 you will lucky enough to have an already revitalised Royal Navy (both new carriers ready and the JSF entering regular service or very clsoe to it) to help the Uk armed forces do their jobs.

Referendum Euro.

Allow fox-hunting on conditions that it can only be done in areas where foxes have killed livestock within the year.

Referendum Euthanasia.

Closed Door Policy to all others.



Sounds ok except for these things.

What difference does it make what the people think about the euro? Economically its either best to go in or stay out. I dont know because Im not an economics expert. neither are most people. Let the ones who know decide.

As for fox hunting its just wrong. if there is a need to control the population, then it must be done in the most humane way possible. Not with a bunch of wankers on horses chasing them around.

Euthenasia. again what does it matter what the majority think? If someone wants to die no one has the right to stop them. things like this cannot be voted on.

The immigration thing is ok but what about americans, canadians, australians? theyre not EU but I cant imagine anyone having a problem with them. immigration should be extended to all coutries where english is the first language. but not to wanker countries that adopt it so they can come here and scrounge and blow shit up.

I'd still vote for you though, no ones perfect.

Sounds ok except for these things.

What difference does it make what the people think about the euro? Economically its either best to go in or stay out. I dont know because Im not an economics expert. neither are most people. Let the ones who know decide.

As for fox hunting its just wrong. if there is a need to control the population, then it must be done in the most humane way possible. Not with a bunch of wankers on horses chasing them around.

Euthenasia. again what does it matter what the majority think? If someone wants to die no one has the right to stop them. things like this cannot be voted on.

The immigration thing is ok but what about americans, canadians, australians? theyre not EU but I cant imagine anyone having a problem with them. immigration should be extended to all coutries where english is the first language. but not to wanker countries that adopt it so they can come here and scrounge and blow shit up.

I'd still vote for you though, no ones perfect.

Would you care to expand upon that brilliant reasoning of how entire countries can come to England and 'Scrounge and blow shit up'?

Sounds ok except for these things.

What difference does it make what the people think about the euro? Economically its either best to go in or stay out. I dont know because Im not an economics expert. neither are most people. Let the ones who know decide.

As for fox hunting its just wrong. if there is a need to control the population, then it must be done in the most humane way possible. Not with a bunch of wankers on horses chasing them around.

Euthenasia. again what does it matter what the majority think? If someone wants to die no one has the right to stop them. things like this cannot be voted on.

The immigration thing is ok but what about americans, canadians, australians? theyre not EU but I cant imagine anyone having a problem with them. immigration should be extended to all coutries where english is the first language. but not to wanker countries that adopt it so they can come here and scrounge and blow shit up.

I'd still vote for you though, no ones perfect.

Regarding immigration, Commonwealth countries are included and America too.
Euthanasia is not whether someone wants to die, its whether we should kill them because they want to die and are unable to suicide.
I TOTALLY agree with foxhunting, but i do understand having been farm raised for 2 years that it is a cultural thing.
I only said it to be a populist about the euro. Shh ;)

No. It's not your policies because I haven't read them. I just don't like you.

No. It's not your policies because I haven't read them. I just don't like you.

Well then sir you are what we call an asshole :)

Well then sir you are what we call an asshole :)
No, I think you'll find that we British use the term "arsehole".

No, I think you'll find that we British use the term "arsehole".

Haha Touche.

Your now elevated to an Annoyance.

Haha Touche.

Your now elevated to an Annoyance.
Oh come on.. annoyance? Surely arsehole is higher?

Oh come on.. annoyance? Surely arsehole is higher?

Elevated is a good thing.

Haha Touche.

Your now elevated to an Annoyance.You respond to an accusation that you don't use British English by using a French word?

You respond to an accusation that you don't use British English by using a French word?

Im an internationalist.
Ya vol!
Das ist einen hund!
Regardez le chien!
Requiem Aeternem.

Ect.

You don't half change your mind quick.
Yeeh i'll admit im a nationalist.Im an internationalist.

Not bad, but I disagree with some points... I'll point out the most critical points below.

Voting Age 16. and eventually 15.
Seriously *bad* idea! People at that age have *no* idea what to vote for and are too easily swayed by propaganda.

Print licenses for smokers, No New Smokers, No New Licenses. Cut funding completely from government awareness of smoking.
No. Instead, raise tax on tabac products and increase public awareness.

Criminalize all Drugs, but for addicts they can be taken slowly off the drug and put into rehab voluntarily.
Alcohol legal at 16
You're contraticting yourself here - first you want to criminalize all drugs (which would include tabac and alcohol), then you want to lower the legal age for one drug :rolleyes:
*No* hardening of the drug laws, and now lowering of drinking age either.

Total Ban on Guns for Civilian usage.
No. Allow guns, but ban lethal ammo (except for police and military).

Allow fox-hunting on conditions that it can only be done in areas where foxes have killed livestock within the year.
*No* fox hunting allowed! It's simply barbaric.

To discriminate against an Individual because of ... Religion ... Is unlawful[QUOTE/]
*No* anti-blashphemy laws!

[QUOTE=Europa alpha]Stick to Current tax system otherwise, If in Deficit *Increase Income Tax for the Wealthiest Bracket of Society.*
Increase it right away. Don't wait until a deficit builds up.

DEFENCE
Women allowed on frontlines.
Cut Weapons Research budget entirely.
abolish male/female distinctions here. Male and female are drafted alike, but *everyone* can opt out if they prefer to do Social Services instead (somewhat longer than Military Service).

LORDS.
Recognise hereditary titles but strip powers.
Revise every 3 generations whether they are deserving of the title.
If title stripped, receive title the “Honourable”
Greatly reduce Lords powers, but allow them to appeal to the commons when ether they desire. They can have press coverage to appeal to the people.
They can keep their title, but only for representation - strip *any* of their powers.

Church Income tax.
*High* income tax on churces and all other religious institutions - especially those who have proven to be dangerous!
Also, increase tax for all followers of a religion.

Life imprisonment. (MEANS LIFE DAMMIT) sex criminals.
That's bs. Put sex criminals into rehab. Life sentences only for serious offences (murder and similar).

You don't half change your mind quick.


I love my country.
I think we're great.
We've done great things.

But that doenst mean i dont respect other cultures.

Inheritance of business only possible by those who have worked there at some point, or clearly intended to work there.
I'm unsure, I mean an inheritance is an inheritance, I would'n do this.
Change National Anthem. Rule Britannia. God Save Your Socks!
Uncompulsorize Welsh You are really appealing to me now.
Politics introduced into National Curriculum, PSE lessons start earlier to cover this. I won't be in school by the time you're elcted, you evil evil man.
Voting Age 16. and eventually 15. Were were you when we needed you two years ago?
Print licenses for smokers, No New Smokers, No New Licenses. Cut funding completely from government awareness of smoking. Thank you. I hope you give the tobacco industry a quick ut megapainful death *cough*cough*
Alcohol legal at 16 Unpopularly I'd just ban it altogether.
Open Door Policy to all War, Genocide, Famine, Natural Disaster victims, ask them if they want redirection to another country. I'd just dump them in the middle of the sea...
Open Door Policy to all Europeans within the E.U and members of the Commonwealth Commonwealth only. Eastern europeans might flood the economy and put the native people out of jobs.
Praise Commonwealth Nations, offer firm Alliances and Trade Pacts. I am so confused whether or not to vote for you...
Offer Alliances and Trade pacts. with Brazil, Argentina, Chile and Cuba. I'm not sure about Argentina, but Cuba definitely.
Open Trade with Cuba. Please! Not only will it piss off the yankees, but it's gonna be better for everyone isn't it?
Review Falklands. If you even dare release the falkland which are RIGHTFULLY ours, then you will have made a great enemy.
Slow trade with America Yeah, Japan is much better
PRO Europe. You've just lost my vote
Possibility of European Language being agreed upon. You might have to get extra security to stop the second assassination in the entire history of Prime Ministers happening

Cut Weapons Research budget entirely. No way. We need to have a edge over the gargantuan militaryprowess of the USA
Try to get firm alliances and trade pacts with Canada and all the Commonwealth nations. Nice one. You've said it so may times before, it's just so comforting
Abolish law that states a King cannot marry a catholic. And if possible that if a princess marries a commoner she too dosn' lose her title. And the tru hei to the throne that's currently living in Australia be offered the throne.
For minor crimes favour rehabilitation. Punisment all the way, no room for rehab.
Criminals shall do manual labour for the community. (See Constituency Refendum)[/QUOTE]Can you donate all life-sentence criminals to genetic engineering to cure the worst diseases? We might as well have some use curing the ill people.

Commonwealth only. Eastern europeans might flood the economy and put the native people out of jobs.

Oh noes! :eek: Competition for jobs! Whatever shall a Capitalist society do? *swoons*

Oh noes! :eek: Competition for jobs! Whatever shall a Capitalist society do? *swoons*
I'm actually more in favour of communism