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Any reason this sholdn't work?

[NS]Liasia
13-03-2006, 19:03
http://www.americanantigravity.com/articles/112/1/Hutchison-Effect-Video

watch the link, then tell me what you think. Anybody know any reason why (apart from this guy's eccentricity) this can't be real?
Adriatica II
13-03-2006, 19:33
Very interesting. Particually the one with the water flying to the ceeling. Althogh I'm not a physicist so not in a position to comment
Europa alpha
13-03-2006, 19:38
Its american. Nuff said.
[NS]Liasia
13-03-2006, 19:39
Its american. Nuff said.

:rolleyes: thank you for dismissing it out of hand.
Europa alpha
13-03-2006, 19:43
Couldnt resist ;)
[NS]Liasia
13-03-2006, 19:46
*sigh* this stuff is real interesting, but just like cold fusion its going in the bin. Scientists shouldn't be so closed to new ideas.
Europa alpha
13-03-2006, 19:50
Liasia']*sigh* this stuff is real interesting, but just like cold fusion its going in the bin. Scientists shouldn't be so closed to new ideas.


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Clearly we have a different perspective of interesting.
I find pale skin and dark hair "Interesting."
I find the prospect of expanisonism "Interesting."
I dont find american scientists turning down yet another good idea because all the funding either goes to NASA or the Military "Interesting." Its not news
The Mindset
13-03-2006, 19:51
Liasia']*sigh* this stuff is real interesting, but just like cold fusion its going in the bin. Scientists shouldn't be so closed to new ideas.
It's not so much that they're closed to new ideas, it's that they have a tendancy to dismiss ideas that cannot be verified (as it should be). This cannot. The guy behind tit freely admits that he hasn't been able to replicate the effect since the 1970s, and has been faking it ever since.
[NS]Liasia
13-03-2006, 19:52
...
Clearly we have a different perspective of interesting.
I find pale skin and dark hair "Interesting."
I find the prospect of expanisonism "Interesting."
I dont find american scientists turning down yet another good idea because all the funding either goes to NASA or the Military "Interesting." Its not news

I find the experiment and its results interesting. I find the prospect of endless free energy interesting. Expansionism and pale skin i don't know about- dark hair i'll go for.
[NS]Liasia
13-03-2006, 19:54
It's not so much that they're closed to new ideas, it's that they have a tendancy to dismiss ideas that cannot be verified (as it should be). This cannot. The guy behind tit freely admits that he hasn't been able to replicate the effect since the 1970s, and has been faking it ever since.

i read since 1991, and if there was actually some rigorous testing done then maybe he might be able to get somewhere. This guy lives off donations, whereas 'respectable' scientists usually get grants or whatever other support.
The Mindset
13-03-2006, 19:56
Liasia']i read since 1991, and if there was actually some rigorous testing done then maybe he might be able to get somewhere. This guy lives off donations, whereas 'respectable' scientists usually get grants or whatever other support.
Eh, I was remebering from something I read a long time ago, my date's probably wrong. Regardless, he doesn't live off donations - he sells videos of this effect for $150 a pop, which screams scam to me.
Bakamongue
13-03-2006, 19:59
Liasia']http://www.americanantigravity.com/articles/112/1/Hutchison-Effect-Video

watch the link, then tell me what you think. Anybody know any reason why (apart from this guy's eccentricity) this can't be real?Two things came to mind when watching the film:

The way that the film distortions looked artificial (the scratch marks looked like overlay, not actualy film-stock damage) and the way that (even showing through the digital compression) the 'archive look' of the footage looked contrived to look like decades-old footage.
The fact that I could easilly imagine a stage-effect that would explain every single one of the 'incidents' filmed, especially (but not limited to) a 'rotatable set' (including camera), possibly some altered film speeds, pre-broken/metal-impregnated items and serupticious electromagnets on the other side of the board.

In other words, let the effect be competently reviewed by a third party. I'm extremely sceptical of the film and doubt anyone reputable would accept that as proof, nor use it as sole evidence were they trying to claim it as such.

I'm almost tempted to say as such as feedback on the site, but I notice that none of the comments have less than 3/5, so I doubt that it'd get shown/survive editing. For that fact alone, I am tempted to call Shenanigans. (At least over the management of the article.)
[NS]Liasia
13-03-2006, 19:59
Eh, I was remebering from something I read a long time ago, my date's probably wrong. Regardless, he doesn't live off donations - he sells videos of this effect for $150 a pop, which screams scam to me.

Yeh if anyone would buy them. Specially if you can get free videos off the web or wherever (see link in OP)
[NS]Liasia
13-03-2006, 20:01
[QUOTE=Bakamongue]

In other words, let the effect be competently reviewed by a third party. I'm extremely sceptical of the film and doubt anyone reputable would accept that as proof, nor use it as sole evidence were they trying to claim it as such.

QUOTE]

Fair enough. Im just really dying for something revouloutionary to happen, too much star trek watching i guess. Im a www.space.com junkie too:D
Iztatepopotla
13-03-2006, 20:01
Apparently the guy gets more money from selling his videos than from the income an antigravity device would make: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutchison_effect
[NS]Liasia
13-03-2006, 20:04
Apparently the guy gets more money from selling his videos than from the income an antigravity device would make: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutchison_effect

Doesn't say how many he sells though, does it? i suspect it isn't many.
Iztatepopotla
13-03-2006, 20:06
Liasia']Doesn't say how many he sells though, does it? i suspect it isn't many.
Maybe if he used his invention to lift skirts more people would be interested.
The Infinite Dunes
13-03-2006, 20:06
Looks like someone was having a lot of fun with fishwire.

edit: BAe Systems (UK's defense contractor) is spending money on anti-gravity research. Apparently some Russian came up with something which could modify gravity by 2% or something.
[NS]Liasia
13-03-2006, 20:07
Damn you people for crushing my dreams:p
Whereyouthinkyougoing
13-03-2006, 20:20
I don't know. Never having heard of "the Hutchinson Effect" before, I actually went and read that 30 page PDF article (which is a bit rambling and starts to get interesting on about page 16).

Personally, I can easily imagine how a material's molecular structure could be changed in ways we aren't aware of yet, like the electrical fields & frequencies mentioned. So the "melting/jellification" part or even the transformation from one material into another one (steel into lead, was it?) seems entirely plausible to me.

I don't, however, see how that would relate to the levitation effect, but eh, who am I to say one's possible, one's not?

However, I'm obviously not a physicist :rolleyes: . And while that article is a lot less sensationalist than the video footage, it may still be complete bollocks from a "believer".

I would very much like to see what the article asks for - some funding for the guy to replicate & continue his research in a serious lab environment, where procedures and results can be filmed, and recorded, and confirmed, and duplicated.
AnarchyeL
13-03-2006, 20:44
Looks like a hoax to me.