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Bank reflects moral stance on eminent domain!?

Straughn
13-03-2006, 03:21
Wow, it's good to hear good news and money in the same context.
:)
http://www.newsobserver.com/102/story/415014.html

Paul Nowell, AP Business Writer

On its face, it appeared an odd decision for a banker, to turn down business on a principle that most people don't think much about.
And so far, the banking giants haven't seen fit to follow the lead of BB&T Corp.'s John Allison, who declared in January that the nation's ninth-largest bank would no longer make loans to developers who planned to build commercial projects on land seized from private residents through the power of eminent domain.

"We happen to believe in the fundamental concept of individual rights, and one of those is property rights," Allison said. "If that is jeopardized, our entire financial system is also in jeopardy."

The prospect of losing out on a few loans, or taking a stand alone, hasn't shaken Allison's resolve and has only added to his reputation as a banker whose thoughts routinely stray to the philosophical.

"John is a student," said Dick Janeway, the retired head of Wake Forest University's medical school, who served as a board member at Winston-Salem-based BB&T for years. "He's a living example of continuing education."

While often overlooked in a state that's home to the nation's second- and fourth-largest banks -- Charlotte-based Bank of America Corp. and Wachovia Corp. -- BB&T has grown from its 1872 founding in rural Wilson into a bank with $109 billion in assets and 1,400 branches in 11 states and the District of Columbia.

Allison, 57, has led the firm as chairman and chief executive since 1989.

"I just celebrated my 35th year with the bank," he said during a recent interview with The Associated Press. "I made a lot of loans in Eastern North Carolina to farmers, and I can remember praying some years for it to rain more and others for it to rain less."

Such low-profile loans and BB&T's focus on consumer banking had long kept it in the shadow of the bigger banks. Then came last year's decision of the U.S. Supreme Court, which ruled 5-4 that a local government in Connecticut had the power to seize private property for a private development project.

A few months later, Allison said publicly that his bank would forgo any business connected to such taking of private land.

"John has a pretty unshakable moral compass, and frankly I think he is right on this," said Charles Moyer, dean of the business school at the University of Louisville. "The potential for abuse is great, and someone needs to stand up for it. I was not surprised it was John and BB&T."

Allison's reasoning against eminent domain is based in part on a strong belief in property rights, one of the philosopher John Locke's cornerstone values and one shared by the farmers in rural North Carolina.

"To these people, property rights are the single most important thing," he said. "It's the basis of economic freedom in this country, so they take it very seriously."

Allison asks rhetorically why there is a need to use the power of government to force people from their homes. The answer sounds like one that would please a banker focused on shareholder value and the next quarter's results, but that doesn't hold sway with Allison.

"They really want to use it as lever to drive down the price," he said, adding that there have already been abuses of eminent domain rules, with victims mostly among the poor, minorities and the elderly.

Allison's critics argue he's exaggerating a problem that doesn't exist. BB&T admits it won't lose much business -- a fraction of a percent, one of Allison's deputies has said. And so far, none of BB&T's competitors has joined Allison's stand, even as efforts are under way in about 40 states and in Congress to outlaw the practice.

"Normally, eminent domain does not even come into play until after a huge public process," said Maureen McAvey, a senior fellow at the Urban Land Institute. "The truth of the matter is that it is used as a last resort. No one wants to go through all the damage."
Unogal
13-03-2006, 03:25
I like this bank. I think we need more morally responsible companies like that
Super-power
13-03-2006, 03:26
Oh yeah, I heard about this on the libertarian party's site a while back. Go BB&T Bank!
Straughn
13-03-2006, 04:41
So how goes the dozing of Souter's place, i wonder .... ?
Muravyets
13-03-2006, 07:09
Holy crap, this Allison guy must have taken a seminar. Here's the Philosophy page of their website: http://www.bbt.com/bbt/about/philosophy/default.html

It goes on forever, like a encyclopedia. I may have to think about opening an account with them...
Straughn
13-03-2006, 07:21
Holy crap, this Allison guy must have taken a seminar. Here's the Philosophy page of their website: http://www.bbt.com/bbt/about/philosophy/default.html

It goes on forever, like a encyclopedia. I may have to think about opening an account with them...
One or two of the other pages that came up with this guy seemed to imply some kind of evangelical slant ... of course, someone can have personal integrity and it doesn't have to become a banner for politics ...

X-Files ...

Well-Manicured Man: "Kill Mulder, we take the risk of turning one man's quest into a crusade."
Muravyets
13-03-2006, 07:41
One or two of the other pages that came up with this guy seemed to imply some kind of evangelical slant ... of course, someone can have personal integrity and it doesn't have to become a banner for politics ...

X-Files ...

Well-Manicured Man: "Kill Mulder, we take the risk of turning one man's quest into a crusade."
Okay, but now here's the question: If he learned this at his local mega-church, is he going with or against the agenda? Because American religion is so politicized, the separation of church and state is almost completely erased (only religion is establishing government, not the other way around -- those short-sighted founders failed to anticipate that!). So all religious activity is political these days, whether it means to be or not. And we all know the current religious political agenda favors government power and authoritarianism.

So -- is Allison in trouble, or is he a poster boy?

(I definitely got a revival meeting/seminar feel from that website. Feh, he's probably a Scientologist. ;) )
Straughn
13-03-2006, 07:48
Okay, but now here's the question: If he learned this at his local mega-church, is he going with or against the agenda? Because American religion is so politicized, the separation of church and state is almost completely erased (only religion is establishing government, not the other way around -- those short-sighted founders failed to anticipate that!). So all religious activity is political these days, whether it means to be or not. And we all know the current religious political agenda favors government power and authoritarianism.

So -- is Allison in trouble, or is he a poster boy?

(I definitely got a revival meeting/seminar feel from that website. Feh, he's probably a Scientologist. ;) )
It's funny how quickly my thinking went there after googling him. :(
I'm finding the split mindset rather unsettling - wanting for a morally responsible (in the personal sense) authority in one sense but at the same time being aware there's a very good chance of agenda behind there somewhere. Argh.
Muravyets
13-03-2006, 08:06
It's funny how quickly my thinking went there after googling him. :(
I'm finding the split mindset rather unsettling - wanting for a morally responsible (in the personal sense) authority in one sense but at the same time being aware there's a very good chance of agenda behind there somewhere. Argh.
Well, like the song says: "You don't drink, don't smoke? What do you do?" Banks don't get that big without making a few deals with the devil, one way or another.

See, this is why I don't look for authorities. I don't need an authoritative bank that's dedicated to a moral compass. I need a stable, fiscally conservative bank with convenient hours.

Besides, I wouldn't be caught dead putting my money in a southern bank. I was just kidding when I said that.
Straughn
13-03-2006, 08:19
Well, like the song says: "You don't drink, don't smoke? What do you do?" Banks don't get that big without making a few deals with the devil, one way or another.

See, this is why I don't look for authorities. I don't need an authoritative bank that's dedicated to a moral compass. I need a stable, fiscally conservative bank with convenient hours.

Besides, I wouldn't be caught dead putting my money in a southern bank. I was just kidding when I said that.
I have no particular need for moral compass either, i have my own, my own recognizance, my own consequences, oh well. I am relatively vehement about anyone claiming to be one. You can imagine my chagrin when the repubs went after Clinton ... :rolleyes:
I just am bothered because i would find myself in a position not dissimilar to Allison's, in principle, but not due anyone else's influence. Like the song says, however, i wouldn't even get so far into a position of authority in the first place.
Muravyets
13-03-2006, 17:51
I have no particular need for moral compass either, i have my own, my own recognizance, my own consequences, oh well. I am relatively vehement about anyone claiming to be one. You can imagine my chagrin when the repubs went after Clinton ... :rolleyes:
I just am bothered because i would find myself in a position not dissimilar to Allison's, in principle, but not due anyone else's influence. Like the song says, however, i wouldn't even get so far into a position of authority in the first place.
Oh, yes, I agree. It's extremely annoying when one's own opinions get expressed by people whose motives one suspects.