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I invite you all to join the boycott supported by the CPUSA. The boycott has been launched against Coca Cola as a result of the murder of 8 union leaders in Colombia, and there is evidence that Coca Cola was involved and supported the murderers. I also support this boycott because Coca Cola immorally distributes unhealthy sodas without expressing these drinks health risks adequately. This also brings up the issue of global corporations bullying impoverished nations and this exploitation must stop. Boycott all Coca-Cola products now!

I also support this boycott because Coca Cola immorally distributes unhealthy sodas without expressing these drinks health risks adequately.

And what exactly are those health risks?

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(Can I end the post there without it looking like spam? I don't think so...)

Wait a minute, by Colombia we mean the South American country?

I invite you all to join the boycott supported by the CPUSA. The boycott has been launched against Coca Cola as a result of the murder of 8 union leaders in Colombia, and there is evidence that Coca Cola was involved and supported the murderers. I also support this boycott because Coca Cola immorally distributes unhealthy sodas without expressing these drinks health risks adequately. This also brings up the issue of global corporations bullying impoverished nations and this exploitation must stop. Boycott all Coca-Cola products now!
OH NO THEY MAKE SODAS SO WE MUST BAN THEM! :rolleyes:

I know nothing about the union leader deaths and will say nothing about that point as such. However, attacking a corporation for providing a product is pretty idiotic. Don't like it? Don't buy it. It's not like they HIDE the health detriments. You can easily find out about them anywhere, so why should the corporation spend extra money to tell you about them?

I invite you all to join the boycott supported by the CPUSA. The boycott has been launched against Coca Cola as a result of the murder of 8 union leaders in Colombia, and there is evidence that Coca Cola was involved and supported the murderers. I also support this boycott because Coca Cola immorally distributes unhealthy sodas without expressing these drinks health risks adequately. This also brings up the issue of global corporations bullying impoverished nations and this exploitation must stop. Boycott all Coca-Cola products now!
"CPUSA?" :confused:

However, attacking a corporation for providing a product is pretty idiotic. Don't like it? Don't buy it.

Yes, that is what 'to boycott' means...

I invite you all to join the boycott supported by the CPUSA. The boycott has been launched against Coca Cola as a result of the murder of 8 union leaders in Colombia, and there is evidence that Coca Cola was involved and supported the murderers. I also support this boycott because Coca Cola immorally distributes unhealthy sodas without expressing these drinks health risks adequately. This also brings up the issue of global corporations bullying impoverished nations and this exploitation must stop. Boycott all Coca-Cola products now!

Yeah, yeah. Whatever. I'm drinking coke right now, its my absolute favorite... non-alcoholic drink. As long as I get my coke on a regular basis, I really don't care about how.

I invite you all to join the boycott supported by the CPUSA. The boycott has been launched against Coca Cola as a result of the murder of 8 union leaders in Colombia, and there is evidence that Coca Cola was involved and supported the murderers.
If this is true, a good reason to boycott I suppose.
I als support this boycott because Coca Cola immorally distributes unhealthy sodas without expressing these drinks health risks adequately.
To this, a hearty :rolleyes:
This also brings up the issue of global corporations bullying impoverished nations and this exploitation must stop. Boycott all Coca-Cola products now!
I don’t really know anything about Coca Cola beyond that they make tasty drinks, but I’m sure the people are better off working in bottling plants than attempting to live off what they manage to grow. Eventually unions will develop (look at the history of unions in may other countries and you will find violence) and conditions will improve.

And what, would you have the Mexicans drink, their water?

Wait a minute, by Colombia we mean the South American country?

What other Colombias are there?

Wait a minute..... You're a Chewlee's gum representative????

I already do, irrelevantly of the Stalinist wing of the US Left. This issue has been reported for years now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca-Cola_Company#Colombia

More "miracles" of free market capitalism; we should expect the like here, if present trends continue.

"CPUSA?" :confused:

"Communist Party of the ..." I would guess.

the murder of 8 union leaders in Colombia, and there is evidence that Coca Cola was involved and supported the murderers.Evidence? Source?

Yes, that is what 'to boycott' means...
I know that. But there's a difference between not buying it out of personal choice and trying to tell everyone not to do so also. THAT is a boycott, as a one-man boycott tends not to work too well.

"Communist Party of the ..." I would guess.

...United States of America.

http://www.cpusa.org/

and shell, starbucks, nike, walmart etc.... i love boycotting

and shell, starbucks, nike, walmart etc.... i love boycotting

Expropriation is better, but we can't do that anymore, we would be being inefficient. And for such irrelevancies as people's lives - what obsolete thinking.

http://nadav.harel.org.il/cola/newhome/coke_can.jpg

http://nadav.harel.org.il/cola/newhome/coke_can.jpg
Hmmm, now I'm thirsty.

What other Colombias are there?

*shrug* Dunno, let's find out, eh?


Hmm....I'm not picking up much, so yeah, I guess that's the only important Colombia out there....CPUSA on the other hand...Communist party of USA and...A minor angel?

http://nadav.harel.org.il/cola/newhome/coke_can.jpg

...now with authentic Colombian hemoglobin!

...now with authentic Colombian hemoglobin!

It makes it taste better.

I guess I'm boycotting Coke everytime I drink a Pepsi. ;)

I invite you all to join the boycott supported by the CPUSA. The boycott has been launched against Coca Cola as a result of the murder of 8 union leaders in Colombia, and there is evidence that Coca Cola was involved and supported the murderers. I also support this boycott because Coca Cola immorally distributes unhealthy sodas without expressing these drinks health risks adequately. This also brings up the issue of global corporations bullying impoverished nations and this exploitation must stop. Boycott all Coca-Cola products now!
The other reasons I can understand if they prove to be true

But the health risks reason is BS ... just part of our lawsuit society rather then an actual need

and shell, starbucks, nike, walmart etc.... i love boycotting

I <3 my Blue Nike Air Run Dual-Ds!

http://media.drjays.com/media/667/files/66729.jpg

http://nadav.harel.org.il/cola/newhome/coke_can.jpg

Mmm. Murderlicious.

It makes it taste better.

I'm sure it does. And I'm sure that those murdered trade unionists are so very appreciative of your gracious commitment to their murderers. After all, if they had known that it would benefit the US consumer, they certainly would have welcomed their deaths with the proper servility.

I'm sure it does. And I'm sure that those murdered trade unionists are so very appreciative of your gracious commitment to their murderers. After all, if they had known that it would benefit the US consumer, they certainly would have welcomed their deaths with the proper servility.

Most certainly. I do so enjoy blood in my soda.

As long as I get my goods, I could care less where they came from or how they were made.

I'm sure it does. And I'm sure that those murdered trade unionists are so very appreciative of your gracious commitment to their murderers. After all, if they had known that it would benefit the US consumer, they certainly would have welcomed their deaths with the proper servility.

That they would have...

I'm sure it does. And I'm sure that those murdered trade unionists are so very appreciative of your gracious commitment to their murderers. After all, if they had known that it would benefit the US consumer, they certainly would have welcomed their deaths with the proper servility.
I hope you're being sarcastic.

As long as I get my goods, I could care less where they came from or how they were made.

Then don't object when planes fly into your office buildings, or when foreign leaders attack your arrogance and imperialism, or when crowds scream for your country's death and chant "Osama."

I hope you're being sarcastic.

Yes, I am. A very bitter sarcasm, and a very angry one.

Then don't object when planes fly into your office buildings, or when foreign leaders attack your arrogance and imperialism, or when crowds scream for your country's death and chant "Osama."


Whatever floats your boat, man.

Then don't object when planes fly into your office buildings, or when foreign leaders attack your arrogance and imperialism, or when crowds scream for your country's death and chant "Osama."
Oh shut up! Self-rightious communists really irk me, and you are irking me. He's being bloody sarcastic, okay? Sheesh.

As long as I get my goods, I could care less where they came from or how they were made.

Sidenote: you know, I think this is the first time I have encountered the Americanism 'I could care less' in the wild. It still sounds and looks just plain wrong to someone accustomed to the original British phrase 'I couldn't care less'.

Then don't object when planes fly into your office buildings, or when foreign leaders attack your arrogance and imperialism, or when crowds scream for your country's death and chant "Osama."

And drinking Coca-Cola, the drink of terrorists. (b^_^)b

Sidenote: you know, I think this is the first time I have encountered the Americanism 'I could care less' in the wild. It still sounds and looks just plain wrong to someone accustomed to the original British phrase 'I couldn't care less'.

It sounds and looks just wrong to people who aren't aquainted with the original too...Or a least, it does to me.

Sidenote: you know, I think this is the first time I have encountered the Americanism 'I could care less' in the wild. It still sounds and looks just plain wrong to someone accustomed to the original British phrase 'I couldn't care less'.

Yes yes, It is an Americanism. Just a minor grammatical difference. it still conveys the same message.

I also support this boycott because Coca Cola immorally distributes unhealthy sodas without expressing these drinks health risks adequately.
This just screams *headdesk*
Umm, what soft drink isn't bad for you?

This just screams *headdesk*
Umm, what soft drink isn't bad for you?

That 7Up plus crap. Tastes like shit, but it does have some minerals in it.

Yes yes, It is an Americanism. Just a minor grammatical difference. it still conveys the same message.

I'm not criticising, just remarking upon it - meaning is defined by use, after all: it is just that as I am unused to seeing it I still read it literally (ie. that it is possible for you to care less than you currently do), and that throws me, even though I know I should be reading it to say that it is impossible for you to care less than you currently do.

Whatever floats your boat, man.

It does not "float my boat" to see anyone die, or to see anyone oppressed, or to see anyone hated unjustly.

But you reap what you sow.

It does not "float my boat" to see anyone die, or to see anyone oppressed, or to see anyone hated unjustly.

But you reap what you sow.

We should stop sowing soda, the seed of opression.

Oh shut up! Self-rightious communists really irk me, and you are irking me. He's being bloody sarcastic, okay? Sheesh.

My sincerest apologies for irking you; I suppose I should have recognized the hilarity of the situation the first time around. Colombian trade unionists being shot? Ha! Ha! Ha! Marvelous. How comical.

We should stop sowing soda, the seed of opression.

Soda, in itself, is not the problem.

Soda, in itself, is not the problem.

Right, Capitalism.

My sincerest apologies for irking you; I suppose I should have recognized the hilarity of the situation the first time around. Colombian trade unionists being shot? Ha! Ha! Ha! Marvelous. How comical.
Ugh...

The thread maker never provided any proof of that. Further, that isn't even the issue. You're going after him because he likes the products of a corporation. You, sir, like all other communists, are the poster-child of hypocrisy. You claim to care about everyone yet the instant you get into power you'd be eating everything up and damned all the rest. It's why I have an extreme distaste for self-rightious communists. UGH! >_O

Ugh...

The thread maker never provided any proof of that. Further, that isn't even the issue. You're going after him because he likes the products of a corporation.

It is most definitely the issue. I have no problem with anyone liking Coca-Cola products, I do too. It's the callousness that angers me.

As for "proof," see the Wikipedia link in my first post in the thread.

You, sir, like all other communists, are the poster-child of hypocrisy. You claim to care about everyone yet the instant you get into power you'd be eating everything up and damned all the rest. It's why I have an extreme distaste for self-rightious communists. UGH! >_O

You have absolutely no idea what I would do once I got into power, unless you read the post I made on the subject a few days ago, which, as I recall, made no mention of "eating everything up and damned all the rest." If you are lumping me with any of the variations of Leninism, you would be wise to revise that theory.

It is most definitely the issue. I have no problem with anyone liking Coca-Cola products, I do too. It's the callousness that angers me.

As for "proof," see the Wikipedia link in my first post in the thread.



You have absolutely no idea what I would do once I got into power, unless you read the post I made on the subject a few days ago, which, as I recall, made no mention of "eating everything up and damned all the rest." If you are lumping me with any of the variations of Leninism, you would be wise to revise that theory.
People are callous everyday. I agree with you that they shouldn't be, but there's a point where you just have to lighten up, else you'll be angry for the rest of your life.

Further, communism will never work. We went through this before. I don't care what you try to do: it cannot work on a national or even city level. Perhaps on a small town level. But that's it. Look at what has succeeded and what has not. Our mixed economy, even with the recent recessions, is one of the strongest in the world, if not the strongest. Meanwhile, Russia, the idol of communists everywhere, collapsed after several decades and still hasn't recovered. You've got an occasional exception to that rule, but those are rare and special in and of themselves, and should not be used to measure the likelihood of success or failure.

As for "proof," see the Wikipedia link in my first post in the thread.

I read "In Colombia, it has been alleged that the bottling company hired paramilitary mercenaries to assassinate union leaders."

Hmmm COKE huh...
Symbol COKE
Last Price 43.45
52 Week Range 42.58 - 53.93
P.E. 17.25
Div 2.30%
1 yr Target Estimate 60.00

Note to self: Jr Commie Boycott = Free Publicity + Anti Junior Commie sales surge. Buy 5000 @ mkt on open.

Thank you junior commie. My regards to Hillary.

"Communist Party of the ..." I would guess.


Nope. It must be the Central Pasco United Soccer Association (http://www.cpusasoccer.com/).
Or it might be Computer Professionals, USA (http://www.cpusa.com/)


And Michaelic France, Soheran, and anyone else who is boycotting Coke for the blood on it's hands and selling an "immoral" product, might I suggest boycotting communism, as it has a much greater amount of blood on it's hands, and is in the business of pushing a highly immoral idea.

Meanwhile, Russia, the idol of communists everywhere, collapsed after several decades and still hasn't recovered.

If you are lumping me with any of the variations of Leninism, you would be wise to revise that theory.

What does any of this have to do with Communism, anyway? Since when it is Communist to oppose murder?

My sincerest apologies for irking you; I suppose I should have recognized the hilarity of the situation the first time around. Colombian trade unionists being shot? Ha! Ha! Ha! Marvelous. How comical.

Poor people don't have rights, that's what makes it funny. :D


Hmmm COKE huh...
Symbol COKE
Last Price 43.45
52 Week Range 42.58 - 53.93
P.E. 17.25
Div 2.30%
1 yr Target Estimate 60.00

Note to self: Jr Commie Boycott = Free Publicity + Anti Junior Commie sales surge. Buy 5000 @ mkt on open.

Thank you junior commie. My regards to Hillary.


What does Hillary have to do with Communism? Ms. Clinton is centre-right.

What does any of this have to do with Communism, anyway? Since when it is Communist to oppose murder?
Err...

I was under the impression you were attacking him because he supported capitalism.

Poor people don't have rights, that's what makes it funny. :D





What does Hillary have to do with Communism? Ms. Clinton is centre-right.

Hillary Clinton was a lawyer for CPUSA and no, Hillary Clinton is not center right of anything. As her stratigist said just last week when talking to her detractors, "Do not listen to what she says. Judge her by her record."

Err...

I was under the impression you were attacking him because he supported capitalism.

A rather strange impression, I have no idea where you got it from.

I know a lot of supporters of capitalism who hate and actively oppose such atrocities, there are very many of them on the Left.

What does any of this have to do with Communism, anyway?

Well, the OP did link them from the start...

I invite you all to join the boycott supported by the CPUSA.

A rather strange impression, I have no idea where you got it from.

I know a lot of supporters of capitalism who hate and actively oppose such atrocities, there are very many of them on the Left.
I guess it could just be because I see you and immediately think that anything you're arguing has to do with communism. My apologies, sir.

dp

Hillary Clinton was a lawyer for CPUSA and no, Hillary Clinton is not center right of anything. As her stratigist said just last week when talking to her detractors, "Do not listen to what she says. Judge her by her record."

Most of the Left despises her, especially the radicals.

Ill boycott it cause it rots your teeth

Hillary Clinton was a lawyer for CPUSA and no, Hillary Clinton is not center right of anything. As her stratigist said just last week when talking to her detractors, "Do not listen to what she says. Judge her by her record."

Looking at her record, Clinton is right wing, unless you're comparing her to the extreme right GOP.

The USA has two big parties, both on the right.

Most of the Left despises her, especially the radicals.

Actually a lot of socialists hate communists. Communists see socialism as a tool or stepping stone to obtain their goals in the same manner socialists have infected the democratic party in the US to obtain their own. (see progressive caucus). If I were a liberal democrat, I'd hate them myself as they are a threat to what liberals believe, and are a key to the reason why the democratic party cannot get any steam despite Bush's best efforts to screw up absolutely everything he gets his hands on.

...now with authentic Colombian hemoglobin!what?.. they no longer use the Bolivian stuff ?

Actually a lot of socialists hate communists. Communists see socialism as a tool or stepping stone to obtain their goals in the same manner socialists have infected the democratic party in the US to obtain their own. (see progressive caucus). If I were a liberal democrat, I'd hate them myself as they are a threat to what liberals believe, and are a key to the reason why the democratic party cannot get any steam despite Bush's best efforts to screw up absolutely everything he gets his hands on.

How many Socialists and Communists do you know, out of curiosity?

Do you even know what the DSA is?

Oh, yes, and the Communists hate her most of all.

Looking at her record, Clinton is right wing, unless you're comparing her to the extreme right GOP.

The USA has two big parties, both on the right.

Nope, you are listening to propaganda galore. Actually the democratic party is made up of a whole bunch of different ideologies and special interest groups that simply couldn't get a seat otherwise. Liberals only account for about 20% of them last I read, the rest are all over the place in ideologies.
Looking at her record going back 35 or 40 years you will find that Hillary is beyond leftist with her latest stunt uncovered in her grand jury invitation to explain her illegal meetings when attempting to nationalize heathcare in the US. She simply cannot appear to be a radical leftist if she hopes to gain the presidency. That is the only reason she's pretending to be something toward the center, and the only reason her stratigist said not to listen to what she was saying. When her own adivsors say not to listen to her words, it would tell me, there's more than meets the eye with the big bottomed ol girl.

How many Socialists and Communists do you know, out of curiosity?

Do you even know what the DSA is?

Oh, yes, and the Communists hate her most of all.

I know a lot of socialists and I know what the Democratic Socialists of America are. I know very few Communists, but a lot of former ones, who I admit are usually the most anti communist individuals one could ever meet. From what I have been told they hate her because she is what they consider a sell out, instead of what I consider a mole.

Coca Cola is made all the sweeter by the blood of the innocent.

I shall now go buy 6 cases.

Nope, you are listening to propaganda galore. Actually the democratic party is made up of a whole bunch of different ideologies and special interest groups that simply couldn't get a seat otherwise. Liberals only account for about 20% of them last I read, the rest are all over the place in ideologies.
Looking at her record going back 35 or 40 years you will find that Hillary is beyond leftist with her latest stunt uncovered in her grand jury invitation to explain her illegal meetings when attempting to nationalize heathcare in the US. She simply cannot appear to be a radical leftist if she hopes to gain the presidency. That is the only reason she's pretending to be something toward the center, and the only reason her stratigist said not to listen to what she was saying. When her own adivsors say not to listen to her words, it would tell me, there's more than meets the eye with the big bottomed ol girl.

No, I'm watching as an outside observer, compared to the rest of the world Hillary Clinton is somewhere right of centre, just because the USAs politics come only in right wing flavours doesn't mean the rest of the world's do.

I'm not enough of a loser to join in a coca-cola boycott, but you'll be happy to know that I haven't had a single can of coke in...I'm gonna say 5 years. Probably more. I just don't like pop.

From what I have been told they hate her because she is what they consider a sell out, instead of what I consider a mole.

Sort of. The left-liberals adopt that line, that she's a sell-out, but the radicals are, rightfully, less naive. She is what she is because she is a major figure in a ruling class party, and thus cannot be expected to challenge anything serious.

For what it's worth, the anti-Stalinists hate the Stalinists, and some of the revolutionary Marxists hate the democratic socialists, but there is no definite "Communist/Socialist" line on the radical left, nor has there ever been.

No, I'm watching as an outside observer, compared to the rest of the world Hillary Clinton is somewhere right of centre, just because the USAs politics come only in right wing flavours doesn't mean the rest of the world's do.

Given to her own device, Hillary would make Stalin look like a saint, and Mao would be a wimp. There simply is not enough under privlidged and poor in the US to make her a viable candidate to allow her to follow her own path. It takes a lot of really pissed off people to draw enough people to follow a communist path and history has taught us where it leads too many times.
The two parties in the US may well indeed be farther right than much of the rest of the world, but we do have not insignificant numbers of all extremes.

Given to her own device, Hillary would make Stalin look like a saint, and Mao would be a wimp. There simply is not enough under privlidged and poor in the US to make her a viable candidate to allow her to follow her own path. It takes a lot of really pissed off people to draw enough people to follow a communist path and history has taught us where it leads too many times.
The two parties in the US may well indeed be farther right than much of the rest of the world, but we do have not insignificant numbers of all extremes.
Hillary is nowhere near a commie. I guess the McCarthy propaganda really got to you.

For what it's worth, the anti-Stalinists hate the Stalinists, and some of the revolutionary Marxists hate the democratic socialists...


...and everybody hates the Jews.

Sort of. The left-liberals adopt that line, that she's a sell-out, but the radicals are, rightfully, less naive. She is what she is because she is a major figure in a ruling class party, and thus cannot be expected to challenge anything serious.

For what it's worth, the anti-Stalinists hate the Stalinists, and some of the revolutionary Marxists hate the democratic socialists, but there is no definite "Communist/Socialist" line on the radical left, nor has there ever been.

I would beg to differ, as I have often heard socialists condemn communists in much the same way that republicans and democrats condemn each other. From my own point of view however there seems to be little difference, as I recall in the archives of the CPUSA site a few articles and references to the DSA and Progressive Caucus as friends of CPUSA.
For my own information what group spun off of CPUSA because they no longer felt that interal assimiliation of the American system was the correct direction to take? Or was it in fact the CPUSA that spun off another group that favored a more direct approach?

I drink Pepsi, but I guess I can keep drinking pepsi? I don't know if its been said but, CC also owns snack companies, yes?

I drink Pepsi, but I guess I can keep drinking pepsi?

Oh silly, this thread isn't about coke any more. Now it's about how much hillary clinton is a communist. Or something.

Hillary is nowhere near a commie. I guess the McCarthy propaganda really got to you.

Right, whatever. Look all you have to do is go check her out. Public records are avaliable that link her promintately with both the black panthers and CPUSA. Instead of making yourself look like an idiot by yelling OMG McCarthy, go do some homework and quit parroting other peoples accusations. Facts are facts, and yelling witch hunt with everything counter to your opinion is foolish.

Oh silly, this thread isn't about coke any more. Now it's about how much hillary clinton is a communist. Or something.
Corrupt commie or nice "Glenda the good witch" commie?

Oh silly, this thread isn't about coke any more. Now it's about how much hillary clinton is a communist. Or something.

You are right. My appologies. BUY COKE!

Corrupt commie or nice "Glenda the good witch" commie?

That's what they're arguing about. I guess I'm on the side of Glenda because it's less...you know, I just don't care.

What of ZamZam Cola (http://zamzamgroup.com/)? Mecca Cola (http://zamzamgroup.com/)?

Right, whatever. Look all you have to do is go check her out. Public records are avaliable that link her promintately with both the black panthers and CPUSA. Instead of making yourself look like an idiot by yelling OMG McCarthy, go do some homework and quit parroting other peoples accusations. Facts are facts, and yelling witch hunt with everything counter to your opinion is foolish.
Do some homework yourself and start with the definition of commie.

I invite you all to join the boycott supported by the CPUSA. The boycott has been launched against Coca Cola as a result of the murder of 8 union leaders in Colombia, and there is evidence that Coca Cola was involved and supported the murderers. I also support this boycott because Coca Cola immorally distributes unhealthy sodas without expressing these drinks health risks adequately. This also brings up the issue of global corporations bullying impoverished nations and this exploitation must stop. Boycott all Coca-Cola products now!


Source, please?

Source, please?

The American courts themselves consider there to be sufficient evidence for a lawsuit to be taken out against Panamco - the bottling company which is alleged to have hired the killers, and which has subsequently merged with Coca-Cola FEMSA, which is a franchise of the main Coca-Cola company.

Heres something to get you started:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/2909141.stm

I would beg to differ, as I have often heard socialists condemn communists in much the same way that republicans and democrats condemn each other.

You do hear some self-righteous rants, yes, but usually those are not really against Communists, but rather against Stalinists. In fact some of the staunchest "anti-Communists" on the American Left back during the Cold War era were in fact Trotskyists.

Most socialists don't mind Marx, though they may reject Marxist theory, and there are plenty of socialists who might legitimately be considered Communists who nevertheless reject the label for its troublesome associations.

The problem is that nobody has ever come up with a good precise point at which to put the line. Marx used "Communism" to distinguish his ideas from those of the utopian socialists, but there are almost none of those on the radical left any more, except for a few of the anarchists.

From my own point of view however there seems to be little difference, as I recall in the archives of the CPUSA site a few articles and references to the DSA and Progressive Caucus as friends of CPUSA.

Between the CPUSA and the DSA there are a number of important differences. Both are allied with the Democratic Party, but while the DSA utterly rejects Soviet-style Communism, the CPUSA apologizes (in the Greek sense) for it - though it nevertheless maintains that it would do things differently if it came to power. The DSA is non-sectarian and tries to attract a broad spectrum, while the CPUSA is officially (though not practically, which they get around by calling their approach "dialectical") Marxist-Leninist, keeping to obsolete formulations like democratic centralism.

The CPUSA has been around since 1919, like the other Communist parties formed out of opposition to World War I, a rejection of electoral reformism (a stance on which pretty much all have backslided), and support for the Russian Revolution. To this day they're a very Orwellian party, believing in Leninism but contradicting some of its main tenets, supporting Soviet Communism but calling it a failure, holding up US-style liberal democracy as a model to be emulated but not attacking China, North Korea, and Vietnam for not following it, and that's pretty much consistent with their history. Their line on Hitler switched twice during the 1930s and early 1940s, according to the decrees from Moscow - from the pro-New Deal, adamantly anti-Fascist Popular Front attitude, to the "stop the evil Anglo-American imperialist conspiracy against Hitler and Germany" stance after Molotov-Ribbentroff, to the once again adamantly anti-Fascist, pro-war, and pro-Roosevelt stance they took after Hitler double-crossed their idols. Not to mention the editing they had to do after Krushchev's "Secret Speech."

For my own information what group spun off of CPUSA because they no longer felt that interal assimiliation of the American system was the correct direction to take? Or was it in fact the CPUSA that spun off another group that favored a more direct approach?

You may be thinking of the Committees of Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Committees_of_Correspondence_for_Democracy_and_Socialism)

I love the randomness.

You may be thinking of the Committees of Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Committees_of_Correspondence_for_Democracy_and_Socialism)

Thanks, I've learned a few things and gained a new direction in reseaching. I'll be off now to learn more and once again apologise for the thread drift....

BUY COKE!
The courts also ruled that COKE did not have authority over the affilitated bottler's labor dealings!

Thanks, I've learned a few things and gained a new direction in reseaching. I'll be off now to learn more and once again apologise for the thread drift....

BUY COKE!
The courts also ruled that COKE did not have authority over the affilitated bottler's labor dealings!

I bought an 8ball tonight.;)

The Communists are boycotting a product, oh, my! And at the same time extolling the evils of the free market!

How deliciously ironic.

I suppose it hasn't occurred to any of 'em that the whole point of a free market operation is that by refusing to buy a product - i.e, a boycott - you are taking advantage of that same freedom of the market. The fact that the market is free allows you to do this. What if it wasn't a free market, eh? What if there was no drink except coca cola? What if the government WAS coca cola? Your boycott would have absolutely no effect other than to mean you die of thirst - or maybe by police action.

Of course, it's not like a buncha commies having a boycott is going to do much in this case anyway. Other than compromising the anti-capitalist values of the CPU that is.

Of course, it's not like a buncha commies having a boycott is going to do much in this case anyway. Other than compromising the anti-capitalist values of the CPU that is.

The CPUSA is a late-comer to this. It's not a "bunch of commies," it's been an issue brought up by the global justice movement for years.

The CPUSA is a late-comer to this. It's not a "bunch of commies," it's been an issue brought up by the global justice movement for years.

It could be argued that they're all communists. Just saying.

It could be argued that they're all communists. Just saying.
not conservative =/= commie

not conservative =/= commie

Tell that to a conservative extremist.

The CPUSA is a late-comer to this. It's not a "bunch of commies," it's been an issue brought up by the global justice movement for years.

Yeah, OK. That's not what I garnered from the original post, but hey.

But you are aware of how pretentious the phrase "global justice movement" is, yes? Just sayin'.

But you are aware of how pretentious the phrase "global justice movement" is, yes? Just sayin'.

It makes them sound more like superheroes and less like smelly hippies.

It makes them sound more like superheroes and less like smelly hippies.

Why can't they be both? Worked for Captain Flower.

http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/c/capflowr.jpg

But you are aware of how pretentious the phrase "global justice movement" is, yes? Just sayin'.

Yeah, I don't like it either. I use it because it's marginally better than the typical "anti-globalization" label.

Why can't they be both? Worked for Captain Flower.

Don't forget Captain Planet.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/11/Captain-Planet.jpg

Yeah, OK. That's not what I garnered from the original post, but hey.

But you are aware of how pretentious the phrase "global justice movement" is, yes? Just sayin'.

Hey if the CIA aren't called out on when they make asinine statements like "since we don't want the bad guys to know what we're fixing" (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4799174.stm), then phrases like the g.j.m. should also just be let pass.

Hey if the CIA aren't called out on when they make asinine statements like "since we don't want the bad guys to know what we're fixing" (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4799174.stm), then phrases like the g.j.m. should also just be let pass.

The two aren't comparable.

For one, that statement was made in response to an asinine reporter-question along the lines of, "tell us how the CIA is going to operate, in detail, because intelligence agencies work best when everything about them is known to the general public!"

For another, "bad guys" is just a cliche, while "global justice movement" is a uniquely invented, specialized euphemism designed to irritate and annoy.

Hey if the CIA aren't called out on when they make asinine statements like "since we don't want the bad guys to know what we're fixing" (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4799174.stm), then phrases like the g.j.m. should also just be let pass.

When you say things like that the terrorists win.

For another, "bad guys" is just a cliche, while "global justice movement" is a uniquely invented, specialized euphemism designed to irritate and annoy.

No, it's just the superhero mentality that Soviet Haaregrad mentioned earlier. It's an obviously biased label, but considerably less Orwellian than, say, Operation Iraqi Freedom.

The two aren't comparable.

My point was that stupidity was universal. Hardly a revelation, I know, but...

My point was that stupidity was universal. Hardly a revelation, I know, but...

Well yeah. Commies don't have a monopoly on stupidity, unfortunately.

Still, when you have to drag out the CIA to make a case of someone more stupid, you know they're pretty bad. :p

Source, please?

Straight from the horses "mouth":
http://www.cpusa.org/article/articleview/742/1/133/

Communist Party, USA: Resolution on Coca-Cola Boycott

Archive National Meetings National Committee National Committee Meeting, March 4-5, 2006

Author: CPUSA National Committee


First published 03/10/2006 15:03 by {article_topic_desc}


Whereas, Coca-Cola bottling plants in Colombia have been involved in supporting paramilitaries who have murdered and persecuted union workers there; and,

Whereas, United Students Against Sweatshops, the U.S. Steelworkers Union and others have called for a boycott of Coke to pressure the company to cease this practice; and,

Whereas, twenty campuses have removed Coke’s franchise; and,

Whereas, the Teamster’s Union Brewery & Soft Drink Division has called on the Coca-Cola Corporation to seek a just resolution of this dispute; therefore,

Be It Resolved, that the Communist Party, USA support the Coke boycott and urges its members and friends to do the same.

Adopted by the CPUSA National Committee
March 5, 2006

If you are an american then the following will probably not interest you:

Does anyone remember Dansani? The purified spring water that coke used to infiltrate and attempted to dominate the botrtled water world with? Well my friend who lives in america says it's apparenmtly a best seller, but over here it's going back into the sewers because it was purified tap water.

LEAVE CORPORATE DOMINATION TO MICROSOFT COLA. I'D TRUST BILL GATES WITH MY LIFE MORE THAN I WOULD YOU!

If you are an american then the following will probably not interest you:

Does anyone remember Dansani? The purified spring water that coke used to infiltrate and attempted to dominate the botrtled water world with? Well my friend who lives in america says it's apparenmtly a best seller, but over here it's going back into the sewers because it was purified tap water.

<snip>[/SIZE]Yeah, heard about that. Coca-Cola came under a triple attack for Dansani in the UK. Firstly, the water company that they were getting the water from was throughly pissed off that the Coca-cola was reselling with such an insane mark up price and implying that tap water was healthy and were willing to start a lawsuit. Secondly, the whole 'space age' reverse osmosis was revealed to be a standard water filter than you could get at camping shops. Thirdly and finally, the water was found to higher levels of toxic bromide in that the tap water had orginally (still within the legal limits though). And with all that Coca-cola pulled the product from shelves with weeks of its launch and we've not heard of it since. :D

With regards to Columbia, coca-cola's practices have been common knowledge for a long time (only in the circles that are aware of corporate malpractice). However, no one's ever been able to get any hard proof on them. Hence no one has been able to mount a campaign against the company without getting their asses dragged into court for libel and/or slander.

http://strategypage.com/gallery/images/coke_bombs.jpg

If you're going to blaim coke for killing peoople....

Oh, and by the way, I specifically drank a coke today to spite the OP and the CPUSA.

http://strategypage.com/gallery/images/coke_bombs.jpg

If you're going to blaim coke for killing peoople....

Oh, and by the way, I specifically drank a coke today to spite the OP and the CPUSA.*pats on the head* Good little consumer. You make all the economists so happy. Not like the those silly hippies who contradict their theories. You make Friedman so proud. :)

And what exactly are those health risks?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/india/story/0,12559,1341454,00.html
Indian farmers have come up with what they think is the real thing to keep crops free of bugs.

Instead of paying hefty fees to international chemical companies for patented pesticides, they are reportedly spraying their cotton and chilli fields with Coca-Cola.

In the past month there have been reports of hundreds of farmers turning to Coke in Andhra Pradesh and Chattisgarh states.

Somehow I don't feel like drinking pesticide, however cool it is supposed to be.:D

Well yeah. Commies don't have a monopoly on stupidity, unfortunately.

Still, when you have to drag out the CIA to make a case of someone more stupid, you know they're pretty bad. :p

It was a case of the most ludicrous statement I had encountered yesterday prior to coming on to NSGeneral, and so it was fresh in my mind: it isn't as if I was pulling up a year old article or the like.

Both phrases are used to send the "hey, we're the white hats here" message.

Drink Root Beer.

I invite you all to join the boycott supported by the CPUSA. The boycott has been launched against Coca Cola as a result of the murder of 8 union leaders in Colombia, and there is evidence that Coca Cola was involved and supported the murderers. I also support this boycott because Coca Cola immorally distributes unhealthy sodas without expressing these drinks health risks adequately. This also brings up the issue of global corporations bullying impoverished nations and this exploitation must stop. Boycott all Coca-Cola products now!*
*Messages paid for by PepsiCo.
:)

And what, would you have the Mexicans drink, their water?
Actually, there are many cases of Coca Cola being made with local, contaminated water supplies. It's been a big problem in countries in Africa...the syrup base is shipped there, and the water is added from local sources, without being decontaminated. It is reminiscent of Nestle, when they were pushing their baby formula over breast milk...but the only water the people had to mix the formula with was water not fit for human consumption.

At least Coca Cola isn't offering it's soda as a substitute for mother's milk though...

I also support this boycott because Coca Cola immorally distributes unhealthy sodas without expressing these drinks health risks adequately.

The CPUSA immorally distributes unhealthy politics without expressing their health risks adequately.

I invite you all to join the boycott supported by the CPUSA.

Sorry, I'm not doing anything that is supported by the pinkos.

I can't boycott what I already refuse to put into my body.

Have you seen what Coca Cola does to a tooth in 24 hours of immersion?

*shudders*

Actually, there are many cases of Coca Cola being made with local, contaminated water supplies. It's been a big problem in countries in Africa...the syrup base is shipped there, and the water is added from local sources, without being decontaminated. It is reminiscent of Nestle, when they were pushing their baby formula over breast milk...but the only water the people had to mix the formula with was water not fit for human consumption.

At least Coca Cola isn't offering it's soda as a substitute for mother's milk though...I still will not buy Nestle over that one, but the real evil was that powdered formula was both less nutritous and did not give a boost to the immune system like natural breast milk.

That said, Coke spends millions a year in charity (Coca-Cola Foundation of Africa, The Coca-Cola Foundation, The Coca-Cola Scholars Foundation, The Coca-Cola Australia Foundation, The Coca-Cola Youth Foundation), and is a better "global citizen" than a large number of thier critics.

I can't boycott what I already refuse to put into my body.

Have you seen what Coca Cola does to a tooth in 24 hours of immersion?

*shudders*

Hardly seems a realistic situation for a tooth, no? Sides, I brush my teeth for a reason.

Sorry, I'm not doing anything that is supported by the pinkos.Did you know that commies don't support trade unions and nor does Coca-cola... at least not in Columbia. The commies claim that trade unions help to perpetuate the capitalist system and are actually tools of the bourgeois. Also, Coca-Cola have got this whole red thing going on. Hell, they even made santa red. So they must be communists with their whole red agenda thing. But the strange thing is that pinkos actually do support trade unions.

Isn't the world a confusing place where people won't simply fit neat properly into the different categories that we give them.

And did you know that 9 out 10 pinkos recomend against jumping off cliffs. What are you gonna do next?!

And did you know that 9 out 10 pinkos recomend against jumping off cliffs. What are you gonna do next?!

Push the 9 off a cliff. :fluffle:

quite frankly, i fell like buying more coke products, not because i support the murders, or because i think they are healthy for you. but because you just advrtised for them, and i am thirsty, and a coke would be nice.

btw, if you help every company to put on any health issues on their products, there would huge labels on everything. ever stop to think for yourself, maybe think about if this prduct could be dangerous for you before you inhale/drink/swollow/use it.

I think Coca~Cola sells like 5.6 billion cokes a year, give or take, right?
So? If like 1,000,000 people boycott them, they will only sell like 5.5 billion cokes a year? They gonna notice that? I don't *think* so.

So? If U boycott them, U should send them a letter. I am sure they like 2 get letters. *LOL* That way they will know something is going on, and they won't kno if U don't tell them. Maybe even if only like 500 people send them letters saying they *not* gonna drink Coke in protest but maybe *try* Pepsi, they will freak out. Market share *very* important 2 them. :)

that is my 4 cents.

Suzy :)

Push the 9 off a cliff. :fluffle:haha
:D

Unfortunately most communists like telling you what to do, but don't really like doing it themselves, so'd probably have to push all 10 off.

Hil. is such a commie prick, thank god i did not vote for her.

You guys really know how to hold an intelligent arguement... that part about pinko commi was so original and genius.