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There is a girl with whom i work with, who has been hinting that she is looking a''room-mate''. She has a boyfriend who she says can't work because of a bad back,plays videogames all day,can't get it up and is generally turning into a Jabba The Hutt.She wants out and is willing to pay about 200 a month to move in and said we could ''work something out'' for the rest. The kicker is i've been looking for an opportunity to get into her pants for awhile. Why am i not jumping at this? I don't know.... something is telling me don't be thinking of just sex man...opinions please.

Eh, go for it.

Eh, go for it.
Most definitely agreed.

Seriously SHAENDRA, how could you even think about turning this down?

dont turn her into a whore

if you are OK with her paying reduced rent, trade housework for it and let her keep her dignity. itll give you a better relationship in the long run.

As long as all economic arrangements are in order to avoid stupid fights later, go for it.

dont turn her into a whore
Why is being a whore an automatically bad thing? They just provide a service.

Why is being a whore an automatically bad thing? They just provide a service.
Puts a new spin on the term service industry don't it?

In my experience, moving in with a girl with the hopes that you'll get laid is a bad idea. Better to get laid, and not move in with her, IMHO.

Puts a new spin on the term service industry don't it?
Not really. Prostitution was the first service industry.

I am 100% behind you on this one, get her to move in, with the reduced rent... If you just happen to get to bang her, there ya go... Whomever said the thing about getting the financial arrangements in order as well- Great post...

Why is being a whore an automatically bad thing? They just provide a service.

:rolleyes:

There is a girl with whom i work with, who has been hinting that she is looking a''room-mate''. She has a boyfriend who she says can't work because of a bad back,plays videogames all day,can't get it up and is generally turning into a Jabba The Hutt.She wants out and is willing to pay about 200 a month to move in and said we could ''work something out'' for the rest. The kicker is i've been looking for an opportunity to get into her pants for awhile. Why am i not jumping at this? I don't know.... something is telling me don't be thinking of just sex man...opinions please.

If this one works out, you have to start a thread (or keep this one) and update it so we can find out if you are getting someone to share your rent, and getting to bang this girl... You may just have a cult following (starting the line right here).. You, my friend, may be my new idol......

Any chance you can post a picture of her??

I am in complete awe... what a great thread......:eek:

:rolleyes:
:upyours:

:upyours:

At the risk of sounding repetitive... :rolleyes:

:rolleyes:

It's just another job, no matter what your hang-ups about it are.

Not really. Prostitution was the first service industry.
Proof? would think that fighting or food gathering would come before a time when women had enough rights to have to be paid for sex

I don't see any potential problems aside from over-moralising fundamentalists and vengeful SOs (and the latter can be dealt with via some knowledge of martial arts).

Proof? would think that fighting or food gathering would come before a time when women had enough rights to have to be paid for sex

Because, why hunt when you can fuck a hunter and get some of his food? ;)

If this one works out, you have to start a thread (or keep this one) and update it so we can find out if you are getting someone to share your rent, and getting to bang this girl... You may just have a cult following (starting the line right here).. You, my friend, may be my new idol......

Any chance you can post a picture of her??
Cult? I'll join, I'll join! So, uh, who gets to be the first to join in the ritual sex?:D

Cult? I'll join, I'll join! So, uh, who gets to be the first to join in the ritual sex?:D


"In these conjucal visits..... do you get to have sex with women?"

Because, why hunt when you can fuck a hunter and get some of his food? ;)
Actually, they fucked up front for the hunter to do the hunting, that way the whore couldn't fail to get food, for she had fucked all the hunters, not just one. Marriage was invented when they had an abundant food source and women still wanted men to do the hunting.:D

Actually, they fucked up front for the hunter to do the hunting, that way the whore couldn't fail to get food, for she had fucked all the hunters, not just one. Marriage was invented when they had an abundant food source and women still wanted men to do the hunting.:D

Marriage was invented when men realized if they sold women to each other they could get all the sex they want and have someone to tend the fields. ;)

Why would one want to do such an activity for fun anyway? It's only intended for making more people when it's a good idea to do so. We're already overpopulated.

Why would one want to do such an activity for fun anyway? It's only intended for making more people when it's a good idea to do so. We're already overpopulated.

Last I checked it was intended for fun, at least when I do it that's the intention.

Let's not lose focus here.. This guy is going to have some hot chick move in with him, pay part of his rent, and give him ass... Must stay focused young Jedi... Can the original poster please share his thoughts....

"In these conjucal visits..... do you get to have sex with women?"
I hope so.:eek: Otherwise there isn't much point for me. I'm not homosexual at all.

Why would one want to do such an activity for fun anyway? It's only intended for making more people when it's a good idea to do so. We're already overpopulated.
It feels fantastic. And as for the reproductive issue of it? That's what birth control is for, my mathamatically inclined friend.

I hope so.:eek: Otherwise there isn't much point for me. I'm not homosexual at all.
That was a quote from a hillarious movie called "Office Space".... You would have to see it...

I'm just thinking, if this doesn't pan out, I will still have to work with her,isn't there a saying''don't shit where you eat''.Any suggestions on that, should the situation come up. Another thing, if i go for it,I am going have my computer password protected, she would not be happy if she found out that i was talking about her online.

what type of Malthusian logic is going into the "we're overpopulated" comment? Are you in India?? China???

If you are American, we have a HUGE country with not quite 300 million people.. We could fit 3 billion more people safely...

((For those of you not so inclined, Robert Malthus wrote a famous piece called the Essay on the Principle of Population" hundreds of years ago, saying that by the year 1970 (paraphrasing) the world would overpopulate and die..

Marriage was invented when men realized if they sold women to each other they could get all the sex they want and have someone to tend the fields. ;)
That's a more conventional version of marriage that came after mankind was less nomadic and began cultivating crops.

That was a quote from a hillarious movie called "Office Space".... You would have to see it...

This wouldn't happen to have anything to do with "I believe you have my stapler?"

you should turn her down

tell her you dont want a room mate, you want to date her. dating and roommates dont go together. if it doesnt work out, its extremely awkward.

not to mention that whole "im paying half your part of the rent so you owe me" angle that puts her in a very bad spot.

and if you have read her wrong and she isnt suggesting that she's kinda into you, you can save yourself a whole lot of awkward from finding out after she's already moved in.

That was a quote from a hillarious movie called "Office Space".... You would have to see it...
I am aware of that. If you had intended to ask if it would be a "federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison", I would have to say "no.":D So why don't you go launder some money.:upyours:

I wouldn't do it, but if you've been trying to get into the girls pants then you might as well go for it. It's personal business between the two of you, and you both want to do it so why not.

you should turn her down

tell her you dont want a room mate, you want to date her. dating and roommates dont go together. if it doesnt work out, its extremely awkward.

not to mention that whole "im paying half your part of the rent so you owe me" angle that puts her in a very bad spot.

and if you have read her wrong and she isnt suggesting that she's kinda into you, you can save yourself a whole lot of awkward from finding out after she's already moved in.
Finally, someone offers you decent advice. This is prolly the best advice you're going to get, so back to the cult topic.

It feels fantastic. And as for the reproductive issue of it? That's what birth control is for, my mathamatically inclined friend.

Birth control has a 95% chance used properly. But when used improperly, it's 5%.

Last I checked it was intended for fun, at least when I do it that's the intention.'Fun' is for rookies.

My partners describe it as a religious experiance....:D

I wouldn't do it, but if you've been trying to get into the girls pants then you might as well go for it. It's personal business between the two of you, and you both want to do it so why not.
Now you're assuming she intended a sexual relationship with the "we could work something out" speech.

'Fun' is for rookies.

My partners describe it as a religious experiance....:D
Ha! I'm going to say that to a woman I know, but it won't relate to sex.:(

I'm told having sex with Kate Hudson would be a religious experience... I read in one of my wife's magazines that she has been taking these "stripper aerobics" classes, so just summarizing, she is smoking hot already, and now wants to do stripper stuff for her filthball husband???

woah, back on subject... Take her up on her offer friend... then tell us all about it.

Now you're assuming she intended a sexual relationship with the "we could work something out" speech.

Oh she's talking about it alright...... sounds like a ticket for one to "banging the hot roommate land"

Now you're assuming she intended a sexual relationship with the "we could work something out" speech.Well, she did seem to linger on telling me about how she doesn't get affection from him,to me that says something in ''girlspeak'' and it's not cookies and milk.

Well, she did seem to linger on telling me about how she doesn't get affection from him,to me that says something in ''girlspeak'' and it's not cookies and milk.

Just do us all a favor and describe this girl... We at least need to have a sense of if this is some smokin hot chick you are talking about, or just some average, run of the mill girl looking for a place to stay.....

Well, she did seem to linger on telling me about how she doesn't get affection from him,to me that says something in ''girlspeak'' and it's not cookies and milk.
Dude, let an old dog lay it out for you.

You let her move in and you probably will get laid, at least once.

But forget about her kicking in on the rent or bills, she'll always be short or waiting for her next paycheck. She'll play you.

So you just have to decide if it's worth it or not.

I don't think you should take advantage of her just because you want to get laid. She probably wasn't meaning sex when she said "work something out" anyway.

If you really have a thing for her, ask her out instead.

Well, she did seem to linger on telling me about how she doesn't get affection from him,to me that says something in ''girlspeak'' and it's not cookies and milk.

I'm by no means an expert on the subject, but I think that sounds like Friend Zone.

Just do us all a favor and describe this girl... We at least need to have a sense of if this is some smokin hot chick you are talking about, or just some average, run of the mill girl looking for a place to stay.....


I agree.... you should share a pic.... make it of both of you if you feel better, who is this goddess hottie?

Well, she did seem to linger on telling me about how she doesn't get affection from him,to me that says something in ''girlspeak'' and it's not cookies and milk.
Mmmm, cookies....Sorry, what was that. Oh, right. But let's not forget that women function differently than men, so you may have translated wrong. You should work out the details before providing a definite yes or no.

Just do us all a favor and describe this girl... We at least need to have a sense of if this is some smokin hot chick you are talking about, or just some average, run of the mill girl looking for a place to stay.....
Nothing less than a picture will suffice.

Mmmm, cookies....Sorry, what was that. Oh, right. But let's not forget that women function differently than men, so you may have translated wrong. You should work out the details before providing a definite yes or no.

I think you make a very valid point here.... My brother had a pretty big crush on a girl that he moved in with, and on at least one occassion either saw (in their living room) or heard (from one of their other rooms) her banging some guy... You have to be prepared for this if that is the situation.... However, you will most likely get to touch her, thus making all problems null and void.

I don't think you should take advantage of her just because you want to get laid. She probably wasn't meaning sex when she said "work something out" anyway.

If you really have a thing for her, ask her out instead.



I'm by no means an expert on the subject, but I think that sounds like Friend Zone.
I almost never say this, but I was wrong. This guy has really good advice too.

If you go through with this I hope you die. Painfully.

I am going to have a talk with her outside of work and ask her if she really is saying what i think she is saying. I don't see her again till the end of next week so i'll have time to think about what i am going to do if she says yes.If no, well i'll just be embarrassed and that won't be the first or the last time that will happen.

I am going to have a talk with her outside of work and ask her if she really is saying what i think she is saying. I don't see her again till the end of next week so i'll have time to think about what i am going to do if she says yes.If no, well i'll just be embarrassed and that won't be the first or the last time that will happen.

Why does someone have to bring common sense into the picture??? Darn rational people..... Now that you think back on it, I can see how "We can work something out" could mean her paying the electric bill, or her paying 75% of groceries to your 25%... Did she happen to grab your nuts when she was saying this??? Then you would get a much clearer picture..

I almost never say this, but I was wrong. This guy has really good advice too.
lol...thanks. :p

If you go through with this I hope you die. Painfully.Hey, Wait a second, if didn't have any qualms about it i wouldn't have told anybody about this. The fact that i am here says i am having doubts about it, so back off buddy.

Hey, Wait a second, if didn't have any qualms about it i wouldn't have told anybody about this. The fact that i am here says i am having doubts about it, so back off buddy.
I feel very strongly about affairs. Even considering one makes you...less than pleasing to be around. Of course, if you don't go through with it all is forgiven, but honestly. Affairs suck.

I think you make a very valid point here.... My brother had a pretty big crush on a girl that he moved in with, and on at least one occassion either saw (in their living room) or heard (from one of their other rooms) her banging some guy... You have to be prepared for this if that is the situation.... However, you will most likely get to touch her, thus making all problems null and void.
Yeah, I wish I had signs directed at me to misread.:( Instead they're directed at someone else.:(

lol...thanks. :p
Don't thank me. I'm trying to help this dolt from making a huge mistake, that's all. Oh, on second thought, thank me profusely. :D :p

Yeah, I wish I had signs directed at me to misread.:( Instead they're directed at someone else.:(

I think he is dodging the question about posting a picture of this hot girl...

Dude, let an old dog lay it out for you.

You let her move in and you probably will get laid, at least once.

But forget about her kicking in on the rent or bills, she'll always be short or waiting for her next paycheck. She'll play you.

So you just have to decide if it's worth it or not.
very cynical!

and very possibly right on the money

I feel very strongly about affairs. Even considering one makes you...less than pleasing to be around. Of course, if you don't go through with it all is forgiven, but honestly. Affairs suck.
Of course, loyalty is everything. *nods heartily*

If you go through with this I hope you die. Painfully.

For saying that I hope you die. Painfully. :rolleyes:

For saying that I hope you die. Painfully. :rolleyes:
I care what you have to say.

very cynical!

and very possibly right on the money


Agreed. He's probably going to get played, he may or may not care.

For saying that I hope you die. Painfully. :rolleyes:

Come on...painfully? Surely with a degree of humour is much more fun for all concerned. I propose death by chocolate.

I think he is dodging the question about posting a picture of this hot girl...
"I suppose you'd rather be at the pictures, eh? MARCHING UP AND DOWN THE SQUARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU, EH? ALRIGHT, off you go!"
Yes, yes, a picture or two.

Don't thank me. I'm trying to help this dolt from making a huge mistake, that's all. Oh, on second thought, thank me profusely. :D :p

I've exhausted my gratitude supplies for the day, alas. Have $2 instead. *gives $2*

Why does someone have to bring common sense into the picture??? Darn rational people..... Now that you think back on it, I can see how "We can work something out" could mean her paying the electric bill, or her paying 75% of groceries to your 25%... Did she happen to grab your nuts when she was saying this??? Then you would get a much clearer picture..[/QUOTE]No, but she was touching me while looking intently at me.It was all i could do to pretend to not know what she was talking about.

Do looks really have anything to do with morals or logic?

very cynical!

and very possibly right on the money
We still need to find out how hot this chick is..... Then we can get a true reading....

Do looks really have anything to do with morals or logic?

Obviously there's some negative correlation at least. Look at Michael Jackson. That defies all logic.

Do looks really have anything to do with morals or logic?
I think some of us are talking about this guy banging a hot chick.... and other of you are choosing the high ground, which we are trying desperately to stay away from...

I think some of us are talking about this guy banging a hot chick.... and other of you are choosing the high ground, which we are trying desperately to stay away from...

Well then, do looks have any impact on sexual pleasure? It can be argued that the foreplay is more enjoyable, but the actual act of sex is going to be the same no matter what she looks like. And let's face it, if you're desperate enough to pay a girl hundreds of dollars a month in rent (because we all know she's not going to be doing any paying) just for a shot at sex, you really aren't in any position to be picky.

Come on...painfully? Surely with a degree of humour is much more fun for all concerned. I propose death by chocolate.

Well, eating 10lbs of dark chocolate (enough to OD from the theobromine) would hurt, so your suggestion is approved.

There is a girl with whom i work with, who has been hinting that she is looking a''room-mate''. She has a boyfriend who she says can't work because of a bad back,plays videogames all day,can't get it up and is generally turning into a Jabba The Hutt.She wants out and is willing to pay about 200 a month to move in and said we could ''work something out'' for the rest. The kicker is i've been looking for an opportunity to get into her pants for awhile. Why am i not jumping at this? I don't know.... something is telling me don't be thinking of just sex man...opinions please.
I dont know I can see both sides ... personaly I wouldent mind hitting that a few times if she is hot BUT personaly the biggest turnons in the long run are when a woman is REALL into you

So it depends if you want a long time of lots of fun ... then try to get her REALLY into you

If you just want her a few times and she is willing ... go for it

Well, eating 10lbs of dark chocolate (enough to OD from the theobromine) would hurt, so your suggestion is approved.

Joke's on you, I'd go into hyperglycemic shock and die after about 1 pound.

Do looks really have anything to do with morals or logic?

Using sex as a commodity is amoral, not immoral. ;)

Well then, do looks have any impact on sexual pleasure? It can be argued that the foreplay is more enjoyable, but the actual act of sex is going to be the same no matter what she looks like. And let's face it, if you're desperate enough to pay a girl hundreds of dollars a month in rent (because we all know she's not going to be doing any paying) just for a shot at sex, you really aren't in any position to be picky.


Here you go with "rational thought" again, which is another thing we are trying to guide this guy clear from... these things clearly slow you down, as do "being cautious" and "having a conscience".. Lets look at this a different way, say you were going to let her stay there for free.... (and yes you would, because she's hot).. She is going to be paying $200 a month (run with that thought) and this kind of makes it like a hot chick is paying to have sex with you, is it not??

Joke's on you, I'd go into hyperglycemic shock and die after about 1 pound.

So... chocolate anyone? :D

I think he is dodging the question about posting a picture of this hot girl...Not dodging, sorry don't have one or a scanner either.A description will have to do. She is 28,5'4,125 lbs,curly blond hair with gray-blue eyes.A bombshell,no, but she turns me on and is an interesting girl.

Joke's on you, I'd go into hyperglycemic shock and die after about 1 pound.

Bah, and then we'd still have 9 pounds of chocolate to eat. :mad:

Here you go with "rational thought" again, which is another thing we are trying to guide this guy clear from... these things clearly slow you down, as do "being cautious" and "having a conscience".. Lets look at this a different way, say you were going to let her stay there for free.... (and yes you would, because she's hot).. She is going to be paying $200 a month (run with that thought) and this kind of makes it like a hot chick is paying to have sex with you, is it not??

Sorry, I find roommates creepy no matter how hot they are. That and I've got a girl.

@Soviet - Hyperglycemia isn't painful. You'd have to come up with a solution that wouldn't knock me unconcious prior to death. I have Crohn's...do something with that.

@Shaendra - So she's a German citizen from the 1900s? If I were you I'd put up a WALL (wink) before she INVADES (wink) your life.

Not dodging, sorry don't have one or a scanner either.A description will have to do. She is 28,5'4,125 lbs,curly blond hair with gray-blue eyes.A bombshell,no, but she turns me on and is an interesting girl.

Say you were drawing a picture, on an etch-a-sketch.... what areas of her would you spend lots of time drawing very detailed like, and what would you just skip by??? Say her head isnt so great, so you just draw a square (circles are darn near impossible on an etch a sketch) but when you get below the neck, is there a big bulgy area?? you get the idea....run with it..

I think some of us are talking about this guy banging a hot chick.... and other of you are choosing the high ground, which we are trying desperately to stay away from...
Speak for yourself.:upyours: Some of us might be interested in saving the guy a lot more trouble than he seems to think could come of this. Wait, I don't even like people. On second thought, let the moron do whatever he wants, even if that means letting him soak himself in figurative napalm.

So... chocolate anyone? :D


I'll take some chocolate, although Italian beer would be better. :D

Not dodging, sorry don't have one or a scanner either.A description will have to do. She is 28,5'4,125 lbs,curly blond hair with gray-blue eyes.A bombshell,no, but she turns me on and is an interesting girl.
Just make sure you know what you're getting yourself into. Is there any chance that the boyfriend will start hassling you--slashing tires, stalking, making himself a general pain in the ass? All the sex in the world won't make up for that kind of aggravation. Trust me, I know. And I didn't even get any cash out of it. :D

Speak for yourself.:upyours: Some of us might be interested in saving the guy a lot more trouble than he seems to think could come of this. Wait, I don't even like people. On second thought, let the moron do whatever he wants, even if that means letting him soak himself in figurative napalm.


see, now you're thinking..... come over to the dark side of the force...

Say you were drawing a picture, on an etch-a-sketch.... what areas of her would you spend lots of time drawing very detailed like, and what would you just skip by??? Say her head isnt so great, so you just draw a square (circles are darn near impossible on an etch a sketch) but when you get below the neck, is there a big bulgy area?? you get the idea....run with it..
I would love to say I hate you, but you're so damned funny.:p

I would love to say I hate you, but you're so damned funny.:p
It's not me, it's the room...it's just one of those evenings, Baseball is quickly approaching so i need to be looking at my fantasy draft, a new week is quickly approaching so I need to be doing homework... But yet this thread has kept me from doing either one.... and I like to know the quality of chick we are talking about , imagine if this whole thing is about a 400 lb. midget with a burned off face and a horrible gas problem....

I'll take some chocolate, although Italian beer would be better. :D

All I got's Irish and Czech.

Just make sure you know what you're getting yourself into. Is there any chance that the boyfriend will start hassling you--slashing tires, stalking, making himself a general pain in the ass? All the sex in the world won't make up for that kind of aggravation. Trust me, I know. And I didn't even get any cash out of it. :DOr worse.

You could let the chick move in and next thing you know the deadbeat boyfreind is playing video games on your couch because she let him move in with her.:eek:

She has a boyfriend who she says can't work because of a bad back,plays videogames all day,can't get it up and is generally turning into a Jabba The Hutt.

...

The kicker is i've been looking for an opportunity to get into her pants for awhile.

So, she's turning into Jabba the Hutt and you want to shag her? Takes all sorts, I guess.

see, now you're thinking..... come over to the dark side of the force...
I think you're confused as to who is the dark master. Fail, neglect or refuse to make yourself an irritation and I may acknowledge you as a noob to the dark side. Otherwise, you may be fortunate to survive a law-abiding encounter with me, the King of Stilted Diction.
Upstart weakling, I propose no one interfere, but rather let him destroy himself on his own terms, that none may be blamed for his failure.

Just make sure you know what you're getting yourself into. Is there any chance that the boyfriend will start hassling you--slashing tires, stalking, making himself a general pain in the ass? All the sex in the world won't make up for that kind of aggravation. Trust me, I know. And I didn't even get any cash out of it. :D

It's funny how harassment goes away after you pull a gun on crazy ex's. ;)

So, she's turning into Jabba the Hutt and you want to shag her? Takes all sorts, I guess.

I'm pretty sure it's the boyfriend undergoing transformation, not her.

So, she's turning into Jabba the Hutt and you want to shag her? Takes all sorts, I guess.No, You fool, the boyfriend is.

Or worse.

You could let the chick move in and next thing you know the deadbeat boyfreind is playing video games on your couch because she let him move in with her.:eek:Not much chance of that happening, trust me on this!

No, You fool, the boyfriend is.

The sentence I quoted is at best ambiguous.

Or worse.

You could let the chick move in and next thing you know the deadbeat boyfreind is playing video games on your couch because she let him move in with her.:eek:
Noooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!1:eek: The sad thing is that it's probable.

It's funny how harassment goes away after you pull a gun on crazy ex's. ;)Yeah that's true.

Only sometimes the only reason it goes away is it's replaced by something more deadly.

I don't recomend being the person to push the game to include guns, especially if you really think the other person is crazy.

My experiance, when you threaten someone with a gun they will back down. But about half will come back when they have a gun of their own...

I think you're confused as to who is the dark master. Fail, neglect or refuse to make yourself an irritation and I may acknowledge you as a noob to the dark side. Otherwise, you may be fortunate to survive a law-abiding encounter with me, the King of Stilted Diction.
Upstart weakling, I propose no one interfere, but rather let him destroy himself on his own terms, that none may be blamed for his failure.

so what are you saying?? Not sure what the heck you meant, but it seemed to have a negative connotation with it....

I am going to have a talk with her outside of work and ask her if she really is saying what i think she is saying. I don't see her again till the end of next week so i'll have time to think about what i am going to do if she says yes.If no, well i'll just be embarrassed and that won't be the first or the last time that will happen.
What you need to decide is whether you are willing to pay the moral, mental, physical and possible financial bills that you may incur due to your lustful thinking?

The sentence I quoted is at best ambiguous.
No, it's not. You just misread it. I know from first-hand experience. But that didn't make sense to me, so I read it again and realized the error. Now you do the same and comment on how ashamed/stupid you feel.

Just make sure you know what you're getting yourself into. Is there any chance that the boyfriend will start hassling you--slashing tires, stalking, making himself a general pain in the ass? All the sex in the world won't make up for that kind of aggravation. Trust me, I know. And I didn't even get any cash out of it. :DThat is a concern too,he is 6'2 and about240lbs. I am hoping she'll let him down easy and he'll go quietly away.Naive on my part,probably.Damn,why does there always have to be strings attached to sex?

Now you do the same and comment on how ashamed/stupid you feel.

You are making the assumption that I am not in the habit of hunting out and exploiting ambiguities.

Because this way it makes you appreciate it more....

so what are you saying?? Not sure what the heck you meant, but it seemed to have a negative connotation with it....
Good. So we understand each other.:cool:

You are making the assumption that I am not in the habit of hunting out and exploiting ambiguities.
Doesn't matter. It wasn't ambiguous, just poorly worded in such a manner as for some minds to hastily read it in an incorrect order.

Yeah that's true.

Only sometimes the only reason it goes away is it's replaced by something more deadly.

I don't recomend being the person to push the game to include guns, especially if you really think the other person is crazy.

My experiance, when you threaten someone with a gun they will back down. But about half will come back when they have a gun of their own...

If I've pulled a gun on you, don't plan to come back with one. Be glad you just signed your will.

Doesn't matter. It wasn't ambiguous, just poorly worded in such a manner as for some minds to hastily read it in an incorrect order.
Isn't that the exact same thing?

If I've pulled a gun on you, don't plan to come back with one. Be glad you just signed your will.See, you didn't say 'They go away if you shoot them dead', You said they go away if you pull a gun on them.

I'm a likable guy, you'd never pull a gun on me, but say you did. Unless you actually crossed the line from misdemeanor to felony and pulled the trigger, if I was about half the guiys out there, yeah I'd be back. And if there wasn't gunfire that first time a gun was flashed there sure would be that second time.

Macho shit like that just gets people shot.

Grow up.

See, you didn't say 'They go away if you shoot them dead', You said they go away if you pull a gun on them.

I'm a likable guy, you'd never pull a gun on me, but say you did. Unless you actually crossed the line from misdemeanor to felony and pulled the trigger, if I was about half the guiys out there, yeah I'd be back. And if there wasn't gunfire that first time a gun was flashed there sure would be that second time.

Macho shit like that just gets people shot.

Grow up.

Pointing a loaded gun at somebody nets you 10 years in jail, at least in Florida. I'm sure other states have similar punishments. Not to say I don't agree with you, but threat with a deadly weapon is hardly a misdemeanor.

Isn't that the exact same thing?
NO! You are retarded!:headbang: Ambiguity is the lack of specific, inherent meaning in words, not some dumbfuck misreading them. For example, if I said there was a thing in some random box, you would have no idea what the thing was or what box it was in. However, if I told you I put sarin gas in your mailbox, you would know exactly what the thing was and in what sort of box it was. I am horrible at making sentences that are hard to follow, though, so you will have to make do with the sentence in question from the threadmaster.

See, you didn't say 'They go away if you shoot them dead', You said they go away if you pull a gun on them.

I'm a likable guy, you'd never pull a gun on me, but say you did. Unless you actually crossed the line from misdemeanor to felony and pulled the trigger, if I was about half the guiys out there, yeah I'd be back. And if there wasn't gunfire that first time a gun was flashed there sure would be that second time.

Macho shit like that just gets people shot.

Grow up.

I'm a nice guy, I wouldn't ever pull a weapon on someone I didn't see as a direct threat to my safety. However, if I pulled one, it wouldn't be for gangster posturing and threats.

If you come back to someone's house after they pull a gun on you, expect gun shots, as they shoot your ass somewhere in the driveway.

Besides, I was kidding, lighten up.

NO! You are retarded!:headbang: Ambiguity is the lack of specific, inherent meaning in words, not some dumbfuck misreading them. For example, if I said there was a thing in some random box, you would have no idea what the thing was or what box it was in. However, if I told you I put sarin gas in your mailbox, you would know exactly what the thing was and in what sort of box it was. I am horrible at making sentences that are hard to follow, though, so you will have to make do with the sentence in question from the threadmaster.
You sure are good at overreacting. I simply meant that if something is not 100% clear (e.g. ambiguous in an ever so slight way), people are going to misread it.

Pointing a loaded gun at somebody nets you 10 years in jail, at least in Florida. I'm sure other states have similar punishments. Not to say I don't agree with you, but threat with a deadly weapon is hardly a misdemeanor.You can usually plead that down if you have no serious priors. It's hard to prove unless you're a dumbass who does it on film or in front of a cop. You get arrested on that and I'd bet the farm the DA offers you a misdemeanor plea deal. Which is what I was getting at. You pull the trigger and the minimum plea will be a felony.

NO! You are retarded!:headbang: Ambiguity is the lack of specific, inherent meaning in words, not some dumbfuck misreading them. For example, if I said there was a thing in some random box, you would have no idea what the thing was or what box it was in.

No, that is just vagueness, not ambiguity. If you said "inside the box is a small child eating ice cream, kittens and puppies", then there would be ambiguity.

You sure are good at overreacting. I simply meant that if something is not 100% clear (e.g. ambiguous in an ever so slight way), people are going to misread it.
I know; it's the little things. And it's NOT AMBIGUOUS, just poorly worded in such a manner that people do misread it. The difficulty is not in the words but in the way people read them. We miss important words because we expect them to be elsewhere in the sentence or we overlook a particular order to which we are unaccustomed and the whole thing takes on a new meaning.

You can usually plead that down if you have no serious priors. It's hard to prove unless you're a dumbass who does it on film or in front of a cop. You get arrested on that and I'd bet the farm the DA offers you a misdemeanor plea deal. Which is what I was getting at. You pull the trigger and the minimum plea will be a felony.

Somebody dumb enough to go around pointing guns at people is going to be hard-pressed to intelligently plea their case to a jury, though.

No, that is just vagueness, not ambiguity. If you said "inside the box is a small child eating ice cream, kittens and puppies", then there would be ambiguity.
Use a dictionary. Ambiguity = vagueness.:headbang: And that's not ambiguous, but it either lacks the context of the complete sentence or is creepy.

Its a trap man. She is flirting with you to make you want to have her move in. Once she becomes your roomate there wont be any sex whatsoever(trust me) she will be living in your apartment either banging her current boyfriend or ssome one else(someone other than you)

Women use the basic sexual drives of men to get what they want.

DONT FALL INTO HER TRAP!

I'm a nice guy, I wouldn't ever pull a weapon on someone I didn't see as a direct threat to my safety. However, if I pulled one, it wouldn't be for gangster posturing and threats.

If you come back to someone's house after they pull a gun on you, expect gun shots, as they shoot your ass somewhere in the driveway.

Besides, I was kidding, lighten up.I figured you were probably half serious but macho posturing like that is where shit starts.

News flash for you, somebody does comes back, you're probably not gonna get a chance to shoot them in the driveway.

In my neighborhood, the first indication they did come back usually is when gunfire comes from a passing car. I imagine it's similar elsewhere.

Stupid shit... puts me in a bad mood. Tired of hearing gunfire on Saturday nights. Tired of stupid people shooting each other for stupid reasons.

Sorry... It's just that it never plays like that fantasy idealist vision you have in your head SH...

it never does...

Somebody dumb enough to go around pointing guns at people is going to be hard-pressed to intelligently plea their case to a jury, though.
You'll never get to a jury, :rolleyes: the PD will meet with the DA, a deal is offered, the PD tells you to accept, you do. You go in front of a judge for sentencing and do your time (a couple of Months) at the county branch center.

Don't ask me how I know.

You'll never get to a jury, :rolleyes: the PD will meet with the DA, a deal is offered, the PD tells you to accept, you do. You go in front of a judge for sentencing and do your time (a couple of Months) at the county branch center.

Don't ask me how I know.

I guess I'll have to trust you on this one.

I figured you were probably half serious but macho posturing like that is where shit starts.

News flash for you, somebody does comes back, you're probably not gonna get a chance to shoot them in the driveway.

In my neighborhood, the first indication they did come back usually is when gunfire comes from a passing car. I imagine it's similar elsewhere.

Stupid shit... puts me in a bad mood. Tired of hearing gunfire on Saturday nights. Tired of stupid people shooting each other for stupid reasons.

Sorry... It's just that it never plays like that fantasy idealist vision you have in your head SH...

it never does...

Luckily I don't live somewhere with rampant drive-by shootings.

Usually Jabba the Hutt like white boys aren't the type of stalkers who have homies to drive them around to do their drive-bys, they run away scurred when they see a gun.

That said, I really was just trying to spout off a badass line. :(

Use a dictionary. Ambiguity = vagueness.:headbang: And that's not ambiguous, but it either lacks the context of the complete sentence or is creepy.

A dictionary might equate ambiguity with vagueness, but the two are philosophically distinct.

If you say "there is a thing in some random box" there is no ambiguity: I am lead to believe that there is some item which is in some box. I do not know what it is or in which box it resides, but there is a single way for me to interprete this statement. The sentence is in no way ambiguous, but it is vague.

If however you were to say "there is a man eating shark in this box", then there would be ambiguity: it is not clear whether the box contains a shark given to consuming human beings, or if it contains a human being feasting on shark fin soup. The sentence is in no way vague, but it is ambiguous.

Usually Jabba the Hutt like white boys aren't the type of stalkers who have homies to drive them around to do their drive-bys, they run away scurred when they see a gun.

Surely if the boyfriend is turning into Jabba the Hutt he will have a Greedo to do his dirty work for him. Although, needless to say, this just reopens the question of who shot first.

Surely if the boyfriend is turning into Jabba the Hutt he will have a Greedo to do his dirty work for him. Although, needless to say, this just reopens the question of who shot first.

I'll just have to make sure the jury sees the Special Edition.

A dictionary might equate ambiguity with vagueness, but the two are philosophically distinct.

If you say "there is a thing in some random box" there is no ambiguity: I am lead to believe that there is some item which is in some box. I do not know what it is or in which box it resides, but there is a single way for me to interprete this statement. The sentence is in no way ambiguous, but it is vague.

If however you were to say "there is a man eating shark in this box", then there would be ambiguity: it is not clear whether the box contains a shark given to consuming human beings, or if it contains a human being feasting on shark fin soup. The sentence is in no way vague, but it is ambiguous.
No, the shark couldn't be prone to consuming manflesh because it doesn't say "man-eating shark," it says "man eating shark" which means it must be a man who is indisposed eating shark. You are mistaken; they are the same. But it is a small matter, for now I must depart to the realm of dreams, for it is my lot never to rest during sleep.

I'll just have to make sure the jury sees the Special Edition.
LOL

No, the shark couldn't be prone to consuming manflesh because it doesn't say "man-eating shark," it says "man eating shark" which means it must be a man who is indisposed eating shark. You are mistaken; they are the same.

Not quite, as although 'man-eating' can be hyphenated it need not be. Similarly for those descriptions such as 'grass-eating' or 'grass eating' - we can describe a cow as either a 'grass eating animal' or a 'grass-eating animal', both are acceptable.

You are making the assumption that I am not in the habit of hunting out and exploiting ambiguities.

bwo: poking and prodding people into clearer thinking since 2003

Surely if the boyfriend is turning into Jabba the Hutt he will have a Greedo to do his dirty work for him. Although, needless to say, this just reopens the question of who shot first.

Does it matter? It was clear Greddo was a threat, granted we all feel sorry for him now that we know his past. Sure he seemed like a nice little kid in Episode One, but Hitler was once one too. I'm not saying Greddo is Hitler, but there are many similarities.

.She wants out and is willing to pay about 200 a month to move in and said we could ''work something out'' for the rest. The kicker is i've been looking for an opportunity to get into her pants for awhile. Why am i not jumping at this? I don't know.... something is telling me don't be thinking of just sex man...opinions please.
I'm sorry, what exactly is the problem here?


There's a woman you fancy who wants to move in with you, pay you rent and fuck you. And you want our advice about....what exactly?

What?

I'm, like, totally :confused:

There is a girl with whom i work with, who has been hinting that she is looking a''room-mate''. She has a boyfriend who she says can't work because of a bad back,plays videogames all day,can't get it up and is generally turning into a Jabba The Hutt.She wants out and is willing to pay about 200 a month to move in and said we could ''work something out'' for the rest. The kicker is i've been looking for an opportunity to get into her pants for awhile. Why am i not jumping at this? I don't know.... something is telling me don't be thinking of just sex man...opinions please.
I seriously think if you do this it will be something you regret for a long, long time. How long do you really think she's going to be interested in sex when she's only doing it for the money? A week? Maybe a month? Then she's going to get fed up with it and start giving you excuses.

Then what? Are you going to take her to court to have her evicted for failing to pay rent? You're going to end up with a rent bill for two, not to mention an uncomfortable working and home life relationship with this girl.

Don't be ruled by your pants! It might seem great at first, but it won't be long until you regret it.

OK, this can only end badly.

Either, you'll get to bang her once and she'll leech you for money for years to come (oh, I can't cover all the rent this month, but, honey, you'll help me out, right?!?)
Or next day, she'll up and move back to her bf, and he'll come looking to give you a pounding
Or, you two will date for a couple of months, then end up hating each other's guts, and she'll move out with your CD collection, and, if you're not lucky, your TV and stereo too.

Say no, for yor own sake. If she's willing to sleep with you, she'll do it only because she wants to. Sex in exchange for room and board is never a good idea...

You wanna become known as the guy who can only get some by paying for it?!?

Nothing wrong with the deal, but bargain hard.

If she is willing to be your maintainee, and you would be willing to have her in that capacity, make sure she understands the rules of the game.

Including the part where you, not she, call the shots.
Dont be daft, don't be soft, or she will control you, and you will not controll her.

If she does not accept that, break the thing off.

This is potentially a disaster waiting to happen. Be very careful before you enter into this.

Number one, first and foremost, she is explicitly making you think that if you let her move in and pay a pittance for rent that you two will be knocking boots. This may or may not be the case, but know that she is giving you this impression because she knows men are very easily manipulated by the possibility of sex. She needs to get out of her current situation and you seem like a possible solution. This is not because she has the hots for you. Period. Make sure you realize that and know it deep down.

When she moves in there is absolutely no guarantee that you two will sleep together (in fact it is likely that she will put you off for a while with the excuse of the whole breakup).

Do not under any circumstance make a deal that you would not be happy with if you two will never do anything more than a friendly hug. Once that is satisfied, then any sex (if it happens) will be just gravy.

Be cold and heartless when you make this decision. And do not under any circumstances make it while she is flirting with you. Make it alone, after a lot of careful thought about a completely non-sexual roommate situation in cold logic.

As someone mentioned earlier – are you prepared for her to bring some other guy home?

I speak from experience – both my own and that of my friends. I have had these situations be really good, I've also had these turn out badly. So please think with the right head on this one.

Only do this if you would do it without the sex. If you are helping a friend out of a bad situation then go for it. If you are just being horny and are looking to get some, then don’t get involved.

Have you ever lived with a woman before? Do you know what she is like to live with? I don’t care how hot a girl is, if she is a slob that leaves food out, handfuls of hair stuck to the shower wall, and never cleans the apartment, I wont live with her. Yes, this has happened to me - I thought I had it made...

And my personal preference (though you might not want to try this) is if she is going to trade her ‘services’ for rent, then I need to know just how much those services are worth before I agree to the deal. This does two things, it lets you assess how good of a deal you are getting and if you will just loose all interest once you’ve had her.

Also, if she is the type of girl to jump from one bed to another just to get away from the first, then you might want to be rather careful and always use a condom.

dont turn her into a whore

if you are OK with her paying reduced rent, trade housework for it and let her keep her dignity. itll give you a better relationship in the long run.

Agreed. 100%.

How dare you even think of degrading her like that? I'd be apalled to get an offer like you did from a girl in the first place.