NationStates Jolt Archive

This is an incredibly indepth strategy game based on the 1936-1946 decade of before, during, and after World War II. And I do mean indepth: I've never seen something this complex before. Took me days just to get familiarized with it all, and even after that, I still suck at it. Allow me to provide an example:

I'm playing the U.S. starting in 1936. I build up my army and technology pretty well, and figure: what the hell, let's be an Axis power instead of an Ally. So I get Germany all nice and cozy with me and join them once September 1st 1939 rolls around. Of course, this immediately plunges me into war with a lot of nations, including Canada. I'm already prepared to charge into Canada from multiple fronts, and I figure: it's just a bunch of Canadians in 1939, right? I can beat them, right? Easy as pie.

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I got my ass kicked. Royally. Within less than a year over half the United States was in Canada's possession. More to the point, Washington D.C. only had a couple regiments of infantry in it and was surrounded on all sides. All attempts to make peace with Canada failed. My last ditch effort--using a nuclear bomb on Ottawa, which I developed ahead of historical schedule--also failed, and I was conquered. BY CANADA. ON EASY DIFFICULTY! :headbang:

That said, it's still fun. I highly suggest those of you with an interest in this type of game to pick it up. You'll like it.

I played the demo. I kicked the American's arse in the Ardennes and captured the Channel Coast. Montgomery was encircled in Brussels and eventually taken out.

Poor Monty. :(

I played the demo. I kicked the American's arse in the Ardennes and captured the Channel Coast. Montgomery was encircled in Brussels and eventually taken out.

Poor Monty. :(
Yah. I think my main problem is just not knowing how to use my military effectively. You'd think adopting the German blitzkrieg tactic and trying to storm through whomever you were invading would work, but nooo...they have to smack down your troops and then pull the same crap on you, only they succeed.

Yah. I think my main problem is just not knowing how to use my military effectively. You'd think adopting the German blitzkrieg tactic and trying to storm through whomever you were invading would work, but nooo...they have to smack down your troops and then pull the same crap on you, only they succeed.
The first few attempts I didn't realise that you had to click on every single division to send it, not just on the little man on the map.
I was confused as to why I kept getting beat, until I found out that a single Hitlerjugend Division was fighting three US Tank Divisions under Bradley. :D

More to the point, Washington D.C. only had a couple regiments of infantry in it and was surrounded on all sides. I was conquered. BY CANADA. ON EASY DIFFICULTY! :headbang: .
It's 1812 all over again :D

The first few attempts I didn't realise that you had to click on every single division to send it, not just on the little man on the map.
I was confused as to why I kept getting beat, until I found out that a single Hitlerjugend Division was fighting three US Tank Divisions under Bradley. :D
Oh that's always fun. I took control of Germany's military 'cause Hitler's cool like that, and proceeded to get my ass kicked by the Red Army. Stupid Soviets and their far greater numbers and somehow better technology than Germany...

And, of course, no matter what I did I could never keep my navy up. Everyone and their mother would gobsmack my navy the instant a new ship poked its nose out of Washington D.C. or Los Angeles Harbor.

Amusingly enough, Japan declared war on Canada and started invading them via Alaska right as Canada crushed me. Knowing Japan, they probably own all of North America by this year in that reality.

Great game, I even have written a couple of mods for it.

The AI is much better than it was a patch or two ago, the problem with it, is that some of it's best moves are recorded, throw the AI a loop via an unlikely scenerio (such as invading the USSR through Central Asia) and it's response is usually less than stellar.

Great game, I even have written a couple of mods for it.

The AI is much better than it was a patch or two ago, the problem with it, is that some of it's best moves are recorded, throw the AI a loop via an unlikely scenerio (such as invading the USSR through Central Asia) and it's response is usually less than stellar.
Yeah. With the wonderful A.I. they designed for Galactic Civilizations II, you'd think Paradox would have done the same for Hearts of Iron II. That, and I wish countries wouldn't always pick the historical outcome time and again. Mix it up a little! You kill some of the fun that way!

I'm still waiting for the price to go down.
I always enjoyed the AAR's. My favorit one was the one by the user Rustican. The German Risk AAR. Unbelievably funny and absurd!!!:D I can only recommend to anyone to go read it on the Paradox forums.

This is an incredibly indepth strategy game based on the 1936-1946 decade of before, during, and after World War II. And I do mean indepth: I've never seen something this complex before. Took me days just to get familiarized with it all, and even after that, I still suck at it. Allow me to provide an example:

I'm playing the U.S. starting in 1936. I build up my army and technology pretty well, and figure: what the hell, let's be an Axis power instead of an Ally. So I get Germany all nice and cozy with me and join them once September 1st 1939 rolls around. Of course, this immediately plunges me into war with a lot of nations, including Canada. I'm already prepared to charge into Canada from multiple fronts, and I figure: it's just a bunch of Canadians in 1939, right? I can beat them, right? Easy as pie.

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I got my ass kicked. Royally. Within less than a year over half the United States was in Canada's possession. More to the point, Washington D.C. only had a couple regiments of infantry in it and was surrounded on all sides. All attempts to make peace with Canada failed. My last ditch effort--using a nuclear bomb on Ottawa, which I developed ahead of historical schedule--also failed, and I was conquered. BY CANADA. ON EASY DIFFICULTY! :headbang:

That said, it's still fun. I highly suggest those of you with an interest in this type of game to pick it up. You'll like it.

Wait, you tech-rushed to build nukes? That's probably the problem- you neglected other fields, such Infantry and Land Doctrine techs, to focus on a superweapon that, in my experience, isn't overly useful unless youre opponent has a large stack of divisions. They're tactical weapons in this game, not effective strategic weapons. Also, wait until after 1939. The more time goes on, the more time the US has to expand its military. Finally, when taking on Canada, just bullrush for the Victory Points for quick annexation; there aren't many, and they're all near the border.

For further tips and advice, I advise checking out the forums: HoI2 Forums (http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=255). The people there are usually nice, and skilled at manipulating the game.

Aye, HoI2 rules, as do its older siblings, Victoria and Europa Universalis 2.

Wait, you tech-rushed to build nukes? That's probably the problem- you neglected other fields, such Infantry and Land Doctrine techs, to focus on a superweapon that, in my experience, isn't overly useful unless youre opponent has a large stack of divisions. They're tactical weapons in this game, not effective strategic weapons. Also, wait until after 1939. The more time goes on, the more time the US has to expand its military. Finally, when taking on Canada, just bullrush for the Victory Points for quick annexation; there aren't many, and they're all near the border.

For further tips and advice, I advise checking out the forums: HoI2 Forums (http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=255). The people there are usually nice, and skilled at manipulating the game.

Aye, HoI2 rules, as do its older siblings, Victoria and Europa Universalis 2.
Thank you good sir. Your advice is heartly appreciated.

Paradox games can be excruciating to get into, but when you're there, they're incredibly fun. Though personally, I prefer Europa Universalis 2 and Victoria. Much more fun to wreak havoc on world history over multiple decades or centuries:p

I've been struggling with Victoria for almost a year, now, and still new things happen. Like when the liberals took over my Scandinavian empire, and thousands upon thousands of immigrants poured in over the borders every week. And I do mean thousands. The Turks were a few hundred people short of becoming the majority on Iceland! Hilarious!

I still have to play Vicky.

I played the demo. I kicked the American's arse in the Ardennes and captured the Channel Coast. Montgomery was encircled in Brussels and eventually taken out.

Poor Monty. :(
Yeah, I pwned as Germany in the demo (and in the full version), but I never could beat the Ardennes Offensive mode as the U.S.

Yah. I think my main problem is just not knowing how to use my military effectively. You'd think adopting the German blitzkrieg tactic and trying to storm through whomever you were invading would work, but nooo...they have to smack down your troops and then pull the same crap on you, only they succeed.
I do that and pwn. Unlike the Germans, I never seriously researched aircraft, though. I usually focus on armor. Oh, and if you wanna attack the Soviets as Germany or Austria, do it in '42 or earlier. Any later and you'll prolly stall on the front line due to mud or ice.

Amusingly enough, Japan declared war on Canada and started invading them via Alaska right as Canada crushed me. Knowing Japan, they probably own all of North America by this year in that reality.
Karma!:D

I do that and pwn. Unlike the Germans, I never seriously researched aircraft, though. I usually focus on armor. Oh, and if you wanna attack the Soviets as Germany or Austria, do it in '42 or earlier. Any later and you'll prolly stall on the front line due to mud or ice.
Understood.

I have, however, been increasingly annoyed with my military not moving into empty enemy provinces no matter how many of my men I select or how many times I tell them to move.

Fascist: Ohyah. I just wish the game had a projective outlook utility that could tell you what happened after you lost or won. Would have been nice to see if it turned out that Canada and Japan were the two remaining super powers or something.

Paradox games can be excruciating to get into, but when you're there, they're incredibly fun. Though personally, I prefer Europa Universalis 2 and Victoria. Much more fun to wreak havoc on world history over multiple decades or centuries:p

I've been struggling with Victoria for almost a year, now, and still new things happen. Like when the liberals took over my Scandinavian empire, and thousands upon thousands of immigrants poured in over the borders every week. And I do mean thousands. The Turks were a few hundred people short of becoming the majority on Iceland! Hilarious!
Yeah, Paradox games are the best, though. I started Victoria as Prussia months ago and determined not to stop starting as them until I can establish a decent empire. Damn prestige ruins everything, sends my whole economy to hell.

Understood.

I have, however, been increasingly annoyed with my military not moving into empty enemy provinces no matter how many of my men I select or how many times I tell them to move.

Fascist: Ohyah. I just wish the game had a projective outlook utility that could tell you what happened after you lost or won. Would have been nice to see if it turned out that Canada and Japan were the two remaining super powers or something.
Why won't they go? If the province belongs to an enemy and is adjacent to the province in which your troops are located, sending them should be no problem. Did you tell them to move at a later date? Try making sure the date is set to the desired time of departure when you get the action dialogue box.

And yeah, it would be great if you could at least observe the goings on after your defeat.

Why won't they go? If the province belongs to an enemy and is adjacent to the province in which your troops are located, sending them should be no problem. Did you tell them to move at a later date? Try making sure the date is set to the desired time of departure when you get the action dialogue box.
That was the first thing I thought of, but it was always right away, which is when I typically wanted them to move anyway. Yet they still didn't. It confuses me.

That was the first thing I thought of, but it was always right away, which is when I typically wanted them to move anyway. Yet they still didn't. It confuses me.
:confused: :confused: :confused: That makes no sense whatsoever. As whom were you playing?

:confused: :confused: :confused: That makes no sense whatsoever. As whom were you playing?
The United States of America, but it did it to me when I played as Canada too.

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Is there a newer version than 1.2? Is it possible that's it?

The United States of America, but it did it to me when I played as Canada too.

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Is there a newer version than 1.2? Is it possible that's it?
1.2A, IIRC.

No, actually, it's 1.3b. HOI2 is a complex game, but by no means one of the most complex around. Some hardcore wargames are really a pain to get into (i.e. War in the Pacific).

1.2A, IIRC.
1.3b, as it turns out. Methinks I'll download it and then see if that fixes the problem.

Wingarde: This is complex enough for me for now. =/

1.3b, as it turns out. Methinks I'll download it and then see if that fixes the problem.

Wingarde: This is complex enough for me for now. =/
I stand corrected, I had to rewrite my mod for it, it was in early January, I remember now :D

1.3b, as it turns out. Methinks I'll download it and then see if that fixes the problem.

Wingarde: This is complex enough for me for now. =/
I never had the problem at all, so don't be suprised if that doesn't do it.

HOI2 is brilliant. One of my favourite games ever.

In my current game, I decided to see what would happen if I warred Japan in late 1938 as the USSR...

Looks promising (http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/5567/hoi2ga.jpg) so far... :D

Understood.

I have, however, been increasingly annoyed with my military not moving into empty enemy provinces no matter how many of my men I select or how many times I tell them to move.

Are you trying to move garrison divisions rather than regular infantry?

Garrisons can't be used in combat. They're a second line defensive (use them on your shitty pacific islands) and anti-partisan division (useful for the Germans after they take over a bunch of nations).

HOI2 is brilliant. One of my favourite games ever.

In my current game, I decided to see what would happen if I warred Japan in late 1938 as the USSR...

Looks promising (http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/5567/hoi2ga.jpg) so far... :D



Are you trying to move garrison divisions rather than regular infantry?

Garrisons can't be used in combat. They're a second line defensive (use them on your shitty pacific islands) and anti-partisan division (useful for the Germans after they take over a bunch of nations).
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I had garrisons in all of my units. NO WONDER none of them would ever move! XD Thanks for letting me know that.

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I had garrisons in all of my units. NO WONDER none of them would ever move! XD Thanks for letting me know that.

Haha, I've done silly things like that...I got ready for my big Barbarossa invasion as Germany, and my main panzer/motorised infantry stack of 12 divisions wouldn't move...

Only after much frustration did I realise that I had a garrison grouped with them. :p

Did you download the latest patch version anyway? I recommend you do, because the AI is much improved and the game a bit more balanced in 1.3b.

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I had garrisons in all of my units. NO WONDER none of them would ever move! XD Thanks for letting me know that.
I now feel stupid for trying to help you. :p I assumed you were using regular land divisions, not garrisons. Honestly, I didn't think anyone was quite so braindead.

I now feel stupid for trying to help you. :p I assumed you were using regular land divisions, not garrisons. Honestly, I didn't think anyone was quite so braindead.

From what I gather, he was, but he had accidentally grouped his garrisons with the other divisions.

From what I gather, he was, but he had accidentally grouped his garrisons with the other divisions.
I understood that, but still, it is rather careless to put even one garrison division in a stack and not notice that when trying to move them. It's even worse to repeat it when starting all over as another nation, especially one like CANADA.

Paradox has produced two of my favourite games, EU2 and HOI2. I just wish they would improve the AI.

http://personal.inet.fi/koti/flashpoint/Japani.png

Basically Japan just declared war on Soviet Union, and landed its troops in Finland.

Paradox has produced two of my favourite games, EU2 and HOI2. I just wish they would improve the AI.

http://personal.inet.fi/koti/flashpoint/Japani.png

Basically Japan just declared war on Soviet Union, and landed its troops in Finland.
In one of my games there was a successful Operation Sealow that was conducted by Japan!

I am still looking foreward to EUIII and DOOMSDAY very much.

I am still looking foreward to EUIII and DOOMSDAY very much.

eu3; when is that do out? i hadn't heard of it.

vicky is a great game. i can't do well without cheating, at least on the prestige level. i once had the cheat to make all proposals accepted, and had spain, belgium, netherlands, england, italy, and me as germany against france. france was very fragmented.

i'll have to go bck to hoi2. i liked hoi a lot better, but i'll download the patch and see what happens.

i had no idea the peeps on here played the good strategy games.

eu3; when is that do out? i hadn't heard of it.
Q1, 2007

Official announcement (No Screens Yet)
http://www.paradoxplaza.com/news.asp?ArticleID=272&Page=News

Another blunder by AI: After Barbarossa began, Soviet Union left its Northern border completely unsecured. Results were quite terrifying.

http://personal.inet.fi/koti/flashpoint/Moscow.png

Hearts of Iron II did own me. Then again, I was satisfied by playing Brazil and being a bully while the rest of the world was busy. If only the game continued longer, so I could have done something...
*goes back and plays M:TW*

*goes back and plays M:TW*

Hehe...good call! :)

*debates whether to use the Italians or the Alhomads*

Hehe...good call! :)

*debates whether to use the Italians or the Alhomads*
Better call: upgrade to M2: TW. It's supposed to be M: TW + R: TW advances. Or so I've heard. Still, I think HOI2 is a good choice for a WWII strategy emulator. HOI is good, too, and its mod CORE.

So now I'm playing as Ireland. It's pretty damned tough. Ireland has shit research teams and even shittier Industrial Capacity. Nevermind the fact I've only one research slot.

Still, I did get cozy enough with the U.K. to get Belfast and Portadown from them. Now I'm just building up my stuff. It's taking a while, but with the unlimited time patch, I can sit and wait. I figure it'll be around 1944 before I'm ready to get up and start kicking some ass, and I'll start by kicking the English. Those Brits'll never know what's coming. After I take Great Britain, I figure I'll go after whatever is in Europe. And then...eh, I dunno. We'll just have to see.

This is an incredibly indepth strategy game based on the 1936-1946 decade of before, during, and after World War II. And I do mean indepth: I've never seen something this complex before. Took me days just to get familiarized with it all, and even after that, I still suck at it. Allow me to provide an example:

I'm playing the U.S. starting in 1936. I build up my army and technology pretty well, and figure: what the hell, let's be an Axis power instead of an Ally. So I get Germany all nice and cozy with me and join them once September 1st 1939 rolls around. Of course, this immediately plunges me into war with a lot of nations, including Canada. I'm already prepared to charge into Canada from multiple fronts, and I figure: it's just a bunch of Canadians in 1939, right? I can beat them, right? Easy as pie.

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I got my ass kicked. Royally. Within less than a year over half the United States was in Canada's possession. More to the point, Washington D.C. only had a couple regiments of infantry in it and was surrounded on all sides. All attempts to make peace with Canada failed. My last ditch effort--using a nuclear bomb on Ottawa, which I developed ahead of historical schedule--also failed, and I was conquered. BY CANADA. ON EASY DIFFICULTY! :headbang:

That said, it's still fun. I highly suggest those of you with an interest in this type of game to pick it up. You'll like it.
I'm afraid you really suck if you let Canada get you as USA. But that's normal, as HOI2 is a game that needs a couple of playthrough to really get the hang of.

And, if you got raped by the Canadian AI, wait until you play in multiplayer mode -_-'

Holy sh*t, this game sounds sweet! I'm going to have to buy it now!

Holy sh*t, this game sounds sweet! I'm going to have to buy it now!
Try ordering it on amazon or ebay, they have special prices. I ordered mine there, and it only cost me 20$ plus shipping. Quite a bargain for a game that good.

Try ordering it on amazon or ebay, they have special prices. I ordered mine there, and it only cost me 20$ plus shipping. Quite a bargain for a game that good.

For now, I'll satisfy the urge by wiping the dust off of RoN...

Hearts of Iron II did own me. Then again, I was satisfied by playing Brazil and being a bully while the rest of the world was busy. If only the game continued longer, so I could have done something...
*goes back and plays M:TW*
infinite time mod my friend...

infinite time mod my friend...
How infinite? Infinite or finite to one's desires? I've never actually conquered the whole world and I figure with an extra ten years or so I would have more than enough time to manage that as Germany or the Soviet Union.

How infinite? Infinite or finite to one's desires? I've never actually conquered the whole world and I figure with an extra ten years or so I would have more than enough time to manage that as Germany or the Soviet Union.
Infinite as in up to something like 2090, if my memory serves.

Infinite as in up to something like 2090, if my memory serves.

2199.

Infinite as in up to something like 2090, if my memory serves.
somewhere between 2020 and 2200 I think, cannot remember the specifics.

2199.
I stand corrected.

2199.
By then I could win as Afghanistan. rofl:D :D

By then I could win as Afghanistan. rofl:D :D
This is not Earth any longer. It is now...Afghani!

I'm afraid you really suck if you let Canada get you as USA. But that's normal, as HOI2 is a game that needs a couple of playthrough to really get the hang of.

And, if you got raped by the Canadian AI, wait until you play in multiplayer mode -_-'
Yesterday 7:31 PM
Very first playthrough, didn't know what I was doing. I saw nukes and went HEY COOL THAT SHOULD WORK. Wish I knew about the penalty to research if you research too early.

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And frankly, I find that limitation to be dumb. I don't like being penalized for trying to research ahead of historical dates. -_-;

And I have no intention of touching multiplayer. Single player games are long enough as it is. Multiplayer...hell, I don't see how that can even work with the game. I know it's a feature, but still...

This is not Earth any longer. It is now...Afghani!


Very first playthrough, didn't know what I was doing. I saw nukes and went HEY COOL THAT SHOULD WORK. Wish I knew about the penalty to research if you research too early.

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And frankly, I find that limitation to be dumb. I don't like being penalized for trying to research ahead of historical dates. -_-;

I think it's fair enough. I remember being able to get nukes by 1942 as France in the first HOI. I mean, it was fun, but I like some realism.

If you apply yourself to it, you can probably get them by mid 1943 as one of the major powers, but they really aren't worth that kind of investment.

As for running until 2199, I can't play the game past 1945 as it is. It goes too slow, with thousands of divisions all over the map.

See, that's why you're supposed to conquer part of the world by that time. And remember, with Doomsday coming out soon, you'll be playing far past 1945 normally anyway.

And I'm all for realism. But there's a point to realism, and I think a country could concievably discover/invent technology sooner than the historical date if they worked hard enough at it. There's realism and then there is idiotic limitation. BUUUT, I do see why it wouldn't be fair, either. I guess it's really just more of a personal irk than anything else. =/

See, that's why you're supposed to conquer part of the world by that time. And remember, with Doomsday coming out soon, you'll be playing far past 1945 normally anyway.

Yeah. But as a minor, the USA and USSR end up with hundreds upon hundreds of divisions by then. If you play Germany, well, you have a chance.

It's playable, but it'll only get worse if I keep going. Most of my games dont last past 1943 when i'm satisfied with my conquests - I usually liberate the nations I conquer as puppets, otherwise the partisan activity keeps increasing indefinitely. (well, you can turn that off with a bit of editing...)

And I'm all for realism. But there's a point to realism, and I think a country could concievably discover/invent technology sooner than the historical date if they worked hard enough at it. There's realism and then there is idiotic limitation. BUUUT, I do see why it wouldn't be fair, either. I guess it's really just more of a personal irk than anything else. =/

Well, you can research those things early if you work hard enough at it. It just takes longer than it would if you started at the historical year. Either way, you'll have the technology well in advance of real-life if you begin your research in 1936.

But think about it though, the Manhattan project relied upon scientists and theoretical knowledge from all around the world to come into fruition - it's more than unlikely that even the USA would have been able to develop that technology on its own long before the historical date no matter the amount of resources thrown at it. You can always cheat to give yourself nukes if you so desire.

Alright. I guess you do have a good point.

As for your slowdown, that might just be the state of your computer. I've never had a single instance of slowdown with the game, regardless of how many divisions are on the map.

Alright. I guess you do have a good point.

As for your slowdown, that might just be the state of your computer. I've never had a single instance of slowdown with the game, regardless of how many divisions are on the map.

It's a recently formatted AMD-64 3000 with 1gb of RAM. Paradox can't help me with it, apparently some get it while others don't.

It's a recently formatted AMD-64 3000 with 1gb of RAM. Paradox can't help me with it, apparently some get it while others don't.
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O__________O

I WANT YOUR COMPUTER.

Ahem. I don't see why you're having problems, then. About the only thing I could think of is either the virtual memory on your harddrive or your video card. =/

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O__________O

I WANT YOUR COMPUTER.

Ahem. I don't see why you're having problems, then. About the only thing I could think of is either the virtual memory on your harddrive or your video card. =/

Haha. I built it myself.

I think they mentioned something about the emulation layer in 64 bit processors causing a major performance flaw, or something like that....out of my head, but whatever.

It...might. I, however, am not familiar with the specifications of that processor.

Out of curiosity, how much did it cost you to build?

It...might. I, however, am not familiar with the specifications of that processor.

Out of curiosity, how much did it cost you to build?

About $1000 Australian, just for the box. That was some 6-8 months ago, I think. I had the monitor and peripherals beforehand.

Ah, crap, I didn't realize you were Australian until now. Your figures on costs are invalidated. (Mainly due to both the difference in the value of the currency and the fact that stuff--especially computer parts--tend to be priced differently depending on where you are.) Darn. And you're the only person who I've spoken to that has built their own computer. I was contemplating it and wanted to see whether the savings would be a good enough reason. -_-

Ah, crap, I didn't realize you were Australian until now. Your figures on costs are invalidated. (Mainly due to both the difference in the value of the currency and the fact that stuff--especially computer parts--tend to be priced differently depending on where you are.) Darn. And you're the only person who I've spoken to that has built their own computer. I was contemplating it and wanted to see whether the savings would be a good enough reason. -_-

You should be able to build a comparable machine for under $800 US, would be my guess - less if you skimp on the graphics card. It's definitely worth it, just get a tech-minded friend to give you a hand.

Actually, mine would cost a little more than that considering i've made a couple of upgrades since then.

Though hey, just post a new thread about it. A lot of people here are tech-nerds (and I mean that in a good way) and will give you a hand. :D

'Course, I'll have to make the money first...

Let us get back on topic.

As Ireland, I've been progressing rapidly, amazingly enough. I set myself up to invade all of Great Britain's victory point provinces the instant I could, and on July 18th, 1942, I invaded. Successfully, I might add. They never saw it coming, and were annexed within a few weeks. I followed this up with my own D-Day invasion into France, conquering its main territory easily. As the Germans were bogged down in the Soviet Union and not paying any attention to the Western Front, I was free to finish up and annex France as well. That's where I am currently, as a matter of fact. I'm thinking of plunging into the east into Germany. Either that or taking on Canada and then the United States. Which would be a more prudent idea? Germany, of course, is so tied up in the Soviet Union that I could be in Berlin before they knew what was happening. Canada, though, is rather poor in its military, and as for the U.S...they're basically just a whole bunch of garrisons. Easily overwhelmed. So, which route should I take?

'Course, I'll have to make the money first...

Let us get back on topic.

As Ireland, I've been progressing rapidly, amazingly enough. I set myself up to invade all of Great Britain's victory point provinces the instant I could, and on July 18th, 1942, I invaded. Successfully, I might add. They never saw it coming, and were annexed within a few weeks. I followed this up with my own D-Day invasion into France, conquering its main territory easily. As the Germans were bogged down in the Soviet Union and not paying any attention to the Western Front, I was free to finish up and annex France as well. That's where I am currently, as a matter of fact. I'm thinking of plunging into the east into Germany. Either that or taking on Canada and then the United States. Which would be a more prudent idea? Germany, of course, is so tied up in the Soviet Union that I could be in Berlin before they knew what was happening. Canada, though, is rather poor in its military, and as for the U.S...they're basically just a whole bunch of garrisons. Easily overwhelmed. So, which route should I take?

I honestly can't say. Have you applied the AI patch? That sounds almost too easy.

I'm playing on a somewhat easy difficulty as I'm still getting the hang of the game. I didn't want to be gobsmacked into oblivion, yah know. /nodnod

So, yah. Germany or Canada. =/

infinite time mod my friend...
If I only could get a return on all the hours I'd waste.

@Fascist Dominion: M2:TW is not out yet. Unless you enjoy feather tickling Hitler's testicles in the muddy, pestilence that is a WWI trench.

I'm playing on a somewhat easy difficulty as I'm still getting the hang of the game. I didn't want to be gobsmacked into oblivion, yah know. /nodnod

So, yah. Germany or Canada. =/

Oh, I see. Germany, otherwise the logistics penalty will be a major pain in the butt.

Oh, I see. Germany, otherwise the logistics penalty will be a major pain in the butt.
Germany it is, then! I'm off to go invade. I'll come back in a wee bit to tell you guys how it's going.

Heh. Hitler was so worried about the Red Menace...so much so that he never thought about the Green...

Germany it is, then! I'm off to go invade. I'll come back in a wee bit to tell you guys how it's going.

Heh. Hitler was so worried about the Red Menace...so much so that he never thought about the Green...

lol. :p

A couple of pics of my current game:

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/152/soviet2xy.jpg

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2974/soviet20ix.jpg

July 1942, and I have defeated Germany, Italy, and Japan, and puppeted most of the other Axis minors. I posted earlier in the thread about my early invasion of Japan. One of the things about the game that really needs improvement IMO is the strength of both carriers and submarines. Carriers were very effective historically, but my fleet of three Type IV carriers, two Type IV battleships and a destroyer escort of about 7 flotillas annihilated the entire Japanese navy piece by piece, with additional submarine support being constantly churned out (their effectiveness is far greater than their cost - a single thirty stack of type IV submarines can take out almost anything). A few armor and motorised divisions took care of the Japanese in China, and it was then marines all the way. I fell back some way when the Germans invaded, but redeploying the divisions from China stemmed the tide, and Romania, Hungary and Bulgaria were quickly taken out. I never bothered with the Winter War on Finland, so that front was never a concern. Once Germany fell, I created the puppet DDR, Austria, Czechoslovakia and Poland. Italy then fell in less than a month. When the Germans surrendered, I managed to get some Dutch and Belgian provinces, as well as an isolated one in France, which you can see on the map.

I guess I go to war with the Allies now, or pick on some of the minor powers and puppet them.

I never bothered with the Winter War on Finland, so that front was never a concern.
SUOMI! (http://sisu.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/kittendogearnew.jpg)

Victory! Germany was so utterly unprepared for it that I completely gobsmacked them. I even took part of the territory they took from the Soviets before I annexed them. Now what do I do?

EDITSU: I think I'll go to sleep. That's what I'll do.

Here are some pics of my Very Difficult game with Germany: :D :D

http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/2443/germanyafrica5xl.png
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/3209/germanyamerica7ws.png
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/1205/germanyasia4qh.png
http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/846/germanyeurope2yk.png
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/3199/germanyoceania1pu.png
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/6717/germanyoctober1945dip4pu.png
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/1594/germanypoints0or.png

The last two pics are hard to guess but you can see that I have more than 900 victory points and a beligerancy rate of 834 :p

I think it's fair enough. I remember being able to get nukes by 1942 as France in the first HOI. I mean, it was fun, but I like some realism.

If you apply yourself to it, you can probably get them by mid 1943 as one of the major powers, but they really aren't worth that kind of investment.

As for running until 2199, I can't play the game past 1945 as it is. It goes too slow, with thousands of divisions all over the map.
What? Having trouble with the Soviet Unions 750 infantry divisions and 200 armored divisions? That only happened to me once. This time nobody has capped 400, though the US is prolly getting close. I've only got 303, but the US is my ally(I have no idea how that happened) and the Soviet Union has 205-(95 * 1 nuke)=110 divisions to withstand me. Roughly a quarter of that is in Armenia, so I have to build mountain divisions, but I'll prolly run out of time. Date is 11 October 1945 or '46. I don't remember which.

lol. :p

A couple of pics of my current game:

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/152/soviet2xy.jpg

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2974/soviet20ix.jpg

July 1942, and I have defeated Germany, Italy, and Japan, and puppeted most of the other Axis minors. I posted earlier in the thread about my early invasion of Japan. One of the things about the game that really needs improvement IMO is the strength of both carriers and submarines. Carriers were very effective historically, but my fleet of three Type IV carriers, two Type IV battleships and a destroyer escort of about 7 flotillas annihilated the entire Japanese navy piece by piece, with additional submarine support being constantly churned out (their effectiveness is far greater than their cost - a single thirty stack of type IV submarines can take out almost anything). A few armor and motorised divisions took care of the Japanese in China, and it was then marines all the way. I fell back some way when the Germans invaded, but redeploying the divisions from China stemmed the tide, and Romania, Hungary and Bulgaria were quickly taken out. I never bothered with the Winter War on Finland, so that front was never a concern. Once Germany fell, I created the puppet DDR, Austria, Czechoslovakia and Poland. Italy then fell in less than a month. When the Germans surrendered, I managed to get some Dutch and Belgian provinces, as well as an isolated one in France, which you can see on the map.

I guess I go to war with the Allies now, or pick on some of the minor powers and puppet them.
Attack the minor powers first and then attack the Allies.

Here are some pics of my Very Difficult game with Germany: :D :D

http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/2443/germanyafrica5xl.png
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/3209/germanyamerica7ws.png
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/1205/germanyasia4qh.png
http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/846/germanyeurope2yk.png
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/3199/germanyoceania1pu.png
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/6717/germanyoctober1945dip4pu.png
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/1594/germanypoints0or.png

The last two pics are hard to guess but you can see that I have more than 900 victory points and a beligerancy rate of 834 :p
How the hell did you manage that!? I never could conquer everything by 1945 except in the original HOI. I don't believe it was Very Difficult or that you didn't cheat.

Attack the minor powers first and then attack the Allies.

Yeah, I was thinking of taking out Nationalist China and giving the territory to the Communists, as well as Persia and Afghanistan, so I can branch out into India and the Middle East.


How the hell did you manage that!? I never could conquer everything by 1945 except in the original HOI. I don't believe it was Very Difficult or that you didn't cheat.

And note the TC load, it seems a little low considering that there would be partisans *everywhere*. Although looking at the available IC, it might be possible. Not sure.

Played it. Got a big, big meh. Combat was stupid. Strategic planning seemed to be lacking in coherence. Overall it seemed really lame.

Yeah, I was thinking of taking out Nationalist China and giving the territory to the Communists, as well as Persia and Afghanistan, so I can branch out into India and the Middle East.



And note the TC load, it seems a little low considering that there would be partisans *everywhere*. Although looking at the available IC, it might be possible. Not sure.
I tend to keep everything I take, except for western Balkan coast that I had to give to Italy after I annexed Yugoslavia. Damned Reds stopped me in three places in this order: Armenia, Moscow, and Leningrad. Armenia is unresolved, but after I annex Persia, they will have no source of supplies, for two armored armies occupy the far side of the Caspian. I nuked Moscow to kill 95 divisions, which I could never have killed by conventional means. Later I nuked Leningrad to terminate a third of the remaining Red Army; it's 1946, so I don't have time to dawdle at the cities. Soon I'll begin a long thrust to the Far East to capture all the Soviet Victory Points...with zero manpower and zero oil.

How the hell did you manage that!? I never could conquer everything by 1945 except in the original HOI. I don't believe it was Very Difficult or that you didn't cheat.

Believe, no cheats, no tricks. I have a definitive tactic... but it is secret :D

I defy you!

Grr. Got the demo, but for whatever reason, my troops won't actually move about the map. Am I missing something crucial here?

I love Hearts of Iron 2

My current game, the Axis have been wiped off the map, with about 90% of their territory going to me, the other to the Allies. Its 1943, and I have 15 carriers, which I have to ready for my invasion of the US. But before that i gotta get France and England.


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Any of u guys ever play Victoria? or Europa Universalis 2 (or 1)?
Im awesome at Europa Universalis, but I fail at life in Victoria

You guys have any tips? begginer nations to try out?

Believe, no cheats, no tricks. I have a definitive tactic... but it is secret :D

I defy you!
Please tell me! I had a tactic in CORE: play as Germany, but that doesn't work in HOI2; now I need a really good strategy. I have a few ideas how to make it go faster, but I don't think I can conquer almost everything by the end of '45.

I love Hearts of Iron 2

My current game, the Axis have been wiped off the map, with about 90% of their territory going to me, the other to the Allies. Its 1943, and I have 15 carriers, which I have to ready for my invasion of the US. But before that i gotta get France and England.


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Any of u guys ever play Victoria? or Europa Universalis 2 (or 1)?
Im awesome at Europa Universalis, but I fail at life in Victoria

You guys have any tips? begginer nations to try out?
Yeah, carrier fleets pwn. I only make CL's as escorts, but I don't think I'll do that any more. Don't need them with good carriers. I assume you are USSR. After I pwn the USSR some more, I'm going to start a game as them to try to conquer the world.

I have Vicky, but I fail at life in it too. :( I hear Belgium is a good beginner's nation, but I always start as Prussia. I vowed never to play as anything else until I play one moderately successful game as Prussia. I've heard some things about invading Hannover and then all the other Germans states as soon as you start the game, but I haven't had a chance to try it. My problem is stabilizing the economy. The initial shift in prestige ruins it for me every time. Maybe I'll get enough prestige from uniting the German states to give me number one priority in global economics.

I have Vicky, but I fail at life in it too. :( I hear Belgium is a good beginner's nation, but I always start as Prussia. I vowed never to play as anything else until I play one moderately successful game as Prussia. I've heard some things about invading Hannover and then all the other Germans states as soon as you start the game, but I haven't had a chance to try it. My problem is stabilizing the economy. The initial shift in prestige ruins it for me every time. Maybe I'll get enough prestige from uniting the German states to give me number one priority in global economics.

Belgium is a good beginners nation. As is the Netherlands. They were a lot of fun to play bully of Europe with :p

Easy tip with Victoria - get the replaceable parts technology ASAP. Then build a machine tools factory, stockpile and maintain 20-50 units for your own industrial expansion, and export the rest. Because you'll then most likely have the monopoly on machineparts, everyone will be lining up to grab them to build their own factories (pretty much every type of industry requires machinetools...) and you'll make an absolute killing. Expand it as necessary. And make sure that you stop all of those expensive and useless goods imports - the snivelling proletariat don't need all those (lol :p), they get very expensive, and the money is better spent on industry and education (for research) or even a few overseas colonies someplace - of course, however, import whatever goods are necessary for training the populations you require. Sure, you might get a few anarcho-liberal and later socialist and communist populations staging revolts, but they'll be pretty ineffectual - no room to be a nice guy in this game, just as there wasn't for nations in Victorian times. Ignore social welfare programs until absolutely necessary - view them as expensive compromises and gear up for profit. Just beware the inevitable economic crash when other nations start building machinetools too, and you lose that monopoly - try and research as much technology as possible to put you in front militarily, and then go on a colonial conquest, or set up a nice big empty factory with another high-demand good (like steel) that you can divert any redundant machine parts workers to when the time comes. China is always a nice target for an overseas conquest - even minor European nations can usually rip away a few opium producing provinces. Be careful what industry you build, though - don't forget, if you have airplane factories in 1870 (probably a little extreme, but eh...), that is a waste, because there won't be an export market for them anyway, and the resources that go into them are worth more on their own than the finished product. It's an extremely tough game to learn, but it's *well* worth the perseverence effort IMO.

Belgium is a good beginners nation. As is the Netherlands. They were a lot of fun to play bully of Europe with :p

Easy tip with Victoria - get the replaceable parts technology ASAP. Then build a machine tools factory, stockpile and maintain 20-50 units for your own industrial expansion, and export the rest. Because you'll then most likely have the monopoly on machineparts, everyone will be lining up to grab them to build their own factories (pretty much every type of industry requires machinetools...) and you'll make an absolute killing. Expand it as necessary. And make sure that you stop all of those expensive and useless goods imports - the snivelling proletariat don't need all those (lol :p), they get very expensive, and the money is better spent on industry and education (for research) or even a few overseas colonies someplace - of course, however, import whatever goods are necessary for training the populations you require. Sure, you might get a few anarcho-liberal and later socialist and communist populations staging revolts, but they'll be pretty ineffectual - no room to be a nice guy in this game, just as there wasn't for nations in Victorian times. Ignore social welfare programs until absolutely necessary - view them as expensive compromises and gear up for profit. Just beware the inevitable economic crash when other nations start building machinetools too, and you lose that monopoly - try and research as much technology as possible to put you in front militarily, and then go on a colonial conquest, or set up a nice big empty factory with another high-demand good (like steel) that you can divert any redundant machine parts workers to when the time comes. China is always a nice target for an overseas conquest - even minor European nations can usually rip away a few opium producing provinces. Be careful what industry you build, though - don't forget, if you have airplane factories in 1870 (probably a little extreme, but eh...), that is a waste, because there won't be an export market for them anyway, and the resources that go into them are worth more on their own than the finished product. It's an extremely tough game to learn, but it's *well* worth the perseverence effort IMO.
I played for a long time as a failing Prussia, and I had all of the industrial techs researched. I was wondering when I can start producing fuel. I've needed it for about decade and have no idea when I start producing it. Social welfare? As Prussia, I never enact any of those policies and don't start with it.
Belgium and the Netherlands may be good for bullies of Europe, but once I get Prussia going, I'll the pwnzor of Europe. :p

Is that the game where you can help the Anarchists in Spain during their war?

Is that the game where you can help the Anarchists in Spain during their war?

Yeah, but it doesn't really come out as "anarchist". Theres either a communist coup if the republicans win, or...nothing. It just stays as it was before the war. It'd be nice if they changed that, but eh. :(

Yeah, but it doesn't really come out as "anarchist". Theres either a communist coup if the republicans win, or...nothing. It just stays as it was before the war. It'd be nice if they changed that, but eh. :(
Boooooooooo :(

Boooooooooo :(
Quiet you. There are many nations that are fun to play, especially with the unlimited time mod. Global Afghanistan, here I come. Oh, do you know if the unlimited time mod removes the victory trigger if the other main alliances die? Do you have to conquer the whole world or ally with it to win with the unlimited time mod?

Is that the game where you can help the Anarchists in Spain during their war?
But it is so much more fun to help Franco roll over the revolutionaries and clamp down on the country with an Iron fist. Euro-centric international Fascism for the win!

Boooooooooo :(

Victoria is better for that. 'Specially when the Paris Commune manages to survive and things like the "Manhattan Commune" spring up. :p

I think I will play a game as Tibet and take over the world!!!!

Victoria is better for that. 'Specially when the Paris Commune manages to survive and things like the "Manhattan Commune" spring up. :p

thought i'd add to this, as I was playing the game earlier today...

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/508/screen15ow.jpg

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/5361/screen26qw.jpg

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/9669/screen31lw.jpg

Hehe :p

I think I will play a game as Tibet and take over the world!!!!
Only if you have A LOT of spare time...and the unlimited time mod.

I think I will play a game as Tibet and take over the world!!!!
Yah, Im pretty sure that is not possible, even if you have all the time in the world. My friend tried it as Tannu Tava and he is GOOD. Took about half of Siberia with one tank before the Sovs put a stop to his ways.

Yah, Im pretty sure that is not possible, even if you have all the time in the world. My friend tried it as Tannu Tava and he is GOOD. Took about half of Siberia with one tank before the Sovs put a stop to his ways.
Yeah, but that's as Tannu Tuva, not Tibet. Tibet could manage a lot more after twenty years of industrial development than Tanu Tuva.

God damn i love HOI2, been playing it since release, awesome longevity - oh and while we are discussing Paradox games- Crusader Kings - is a big fave for me.

Cannot wait for the DOmmsday expansion for HOI2!! :D :D :D

God damn i love HOI2, been playing it since release, awesome longevity - oh and while we are discussing Paradox games- Crusader Kings - is a big fave for me.

Cannot wait for the DOmmsday expansion for HOI2!! :D :D :D
You just HAD to mention Crusader Kings, didn't you? I've been trying to find a place to download it so I can play it until I can afford to buy it (yes, even ten dollars is too much right now). I've heard the game is so awesome(and I've seen the screenshots), but until either I find it or get some extra money, I'll never know just how great it is.....