Heavy Question
If all of our good dreams came true, would there only be nightmares when you sleep?
Smunkeeville
12-03-2006, 01:43
I don't have good dreams, or nightmares. They are all just pretty weird, but ultimately indifferent.
The Bruce
12-03-2006, 01:46
If all of our good dreams came true, would there only be nightmares when you sleep?
No, because our subconscious wouldn’t have any reference points to create nightmares from if only good things happened.
The Bruce
What about another person's dreams?
Keruvalia
12-03-2006, 02:16
If all of our good dreams came true, would there only be nightmares when you sleep?
Careful with that question, Job. It's an antique.
Exactly what sort of causal association would exist between a particular "good dream" (A) and its real-world occurrence (B)? Does A engender B? If so, would A and B have to occur in any particular order? Would A necessarily have to be experienced by the individual(s) for whom it would be perceived as "good"?
The only scenarios for which the initial premise would hold true would be those for which assured realization of B ("future B") somehow prevents the propagation of (or otherwise retrospectively eliminates determinative association with) A altogether.
What if one doesn't dream? Or, at least, doesn't remember.
What if one doesn't dream? Or, at least, doesn't remember.
Well, if it's only the fact that you don't remember, the your, (I suppose the word to use here is) positive dreams could still come true, you just wouldn't match the good things happening in your life with the good things happening in your dreams.
I dream what I want to dream.
I dream what I want to dream.
More accurately, you dream what you dream.
More accurately, you dream what you dream.
Most accurately, I decide on what to dream while falling asleep and maintain a certain control over the type of path it takes.
Most accurately, I decide on what to dream while falling asleep and maintain a certain control over the type of path it takes.
On this statement one might with high hopes initiate arguement with oneself on the basis of a deterministic worldview, only to be thwarted by broad interpretation of "decision". It happens.
On this statement one might with high hopes initiate arguement with oneself on the basis of a deterministic worldview, only to be thwarted by broad interpretation of "decision". It happens.
Or one might not. It happens.
Tactical Grace
12-03-2006, 03:13
If all of our good dreams came true, would there only be nightmares when you sleep?
But what if they are both illusions? :(
Shotagon
12-03-2006, 05:47
I think someone's been reading Michael Chrichton. :p
I think someone's been reading Michael Chrichton. :p
Who?
CthulhuFhtagn
12-03-2006, 06:21
Who?
An extremely horrible author who writes what some call "science fiction", but is more accurately termed "dreck".
Shotagon
12-03-2006, 07:06
An extremely horrible author who writes what some call "science fiction", but is more accurately termed "dreck".LOL, yep! I'd consider his work more of a cross between mainstream adult fiction, like the crap on wal-mart shelves, and a very thin veneer of scifi, of any generic sort. Anyway, in his book "Sphere" (also a movie) he goes over this very topic. Deadly dull.
Incidentally, I just tried reading "Prey" by him, and that sucked too. A bunch of moralizing going on in that one. Be careful with his stuff, because it's easy to get burned.
I think someone's been reading Michael Chrichton. :p
No, I have not...
Anti-Social Darwinism
13-03-2006, 04:28
As I understand it, dreams are your subconscious's way of processing things that you've experienced (even vicariously, like T.V., movies, songs etc.). So, if you only experience good things, you will only dream good things. I know this is a simplistic answer because it doesn't allow for things like basic personality, mental illness and perceptual errors.