NationStates Jolt Archive


Walmart cracks down on free speech.

Drunk commies deleted
10-03-2006, 16:31
A student who took a picture of himself giving a "thumbs down" hand gesture next to a picture of Dubya tacked to a wall with a red thumbtack through his head made the mistake of taking his film to Walmart to be processed. Walmart called the secret service who interrogated the student and the teacher who asked the student to make a poster relating to the bill of rights. So now I guess it's Walmart's job to decide what ideas one can or cannot express. Thanks Walmart. Way to look out for American values.

http://progressive.org/mag_mc100405
Whereyouthinkyougoing
10-03-2006, 16:35
:eek:
Holy fuck, how come we didn't hear about that right when it happened?
Secluded Islands
10-03-2006, 16:38
pretty soon Wal-Mart will have a place in the government...
Heavenly Sex
10-03-2006, 16:42
I think we should really crack down on WalMart! :upyours:
They're already known for doing a lot of really ugly stuff, and that braindead shit is just adding up on it... :mad:
IL Ruffino
10-03-2006, 16:42
We should take pictures of illegal mexicans working at wal-mart and have em processed and see what happens.
The ancient Republic
10-03-2006, 16:47
that's just idiocy...
Intangelon
10-03-2006, 16:49
Boy, just when you run out of steam on all the other reasons to dislike Wal*Mart...yikes.

MALL*WART
Your source for cheap plastic crap
Stone Bridges
10-03-2006, 16:50
Hey, shrub made it possible for Wally World to keep their illegal workers, so what did ya expect? You scratch my back, I scratch yours....
Drunk commies deleted
10-03-2006, 17:02
We should take pictures of illegal mexicans working at wal-mart and have em processed and see what happens.
They'll lobby their Republican representatives to have you deported to China where you'll have a productive carrer manufacturing the crap they sell at Walmart.
Bitchkitten
10-03-2006, 17:24
Walmart's the original evil empire. Sam Walton may have been a right wing religious zealot, but he a least made a more convincing stab at the image of caring for the working man. All the stuff was American made back when he ran it.
Andaluciae
10-03-2006, 17:28
I seriously doubt some big-time corporate exec decided to call the secret service, instead it was probably some average dude running the photo machine. He probably got worried, for some reason or another and got the permission of the manager and phoned the secret service. There's no grand conspiracy here. Just normal people making a silly mistake.
Drunk commies deleted
10-03-2006, 17:31
I seriously doubt some big-time corporate exec decided to call the secret service, instead it was probably some average dude running the photo machine. He probably got worried, for some reason or another and got the permission of the manager and phoned the secret service. There's no grand conspiracy here. Just normal people making a silly mistake.
I'm sure you're right, but this goes to illustrate the climate of oppressive right-wingery that pervades the Walmart institutional culture.
Achtung 45
10-03-2006, 17:40
Another reason to hate wal mart.
Delator
10-03-2006, 17:43
That's what he gets for going to Wal-Mart in the first place. :rolleyes:

If he had gone anywhere respectable, this most likely would never happened.
Muravyets
10-03-2006, 19:14
:eek:
Holy fuck, how come we didn't hear about that right when it happened?
You weren't paying attention. I saw this on MSNBC when it happened. Maybe you should spend less time online and more time staring at the television. :)
Tactical Grace
10-03-2006, 19:40
Self-censorship. One of the defining characteristics of fascism. :(
Whereyouthinkyougoing
10-03-2006, 19:58
You weren't paying attention.
Heh, I did realize that was a pretty stupid comment to make, seeing how that article (duh) was released back then, after all. I was kind of hoping nobody would call me on it. Rats. :p

I saw this on MSNBC when it happened. Maybe you should spend less time online and more time staring at the television. :)
Yay, more TV! But wait - if the guys at NS General can't be relied upon anymore for bringing me today's most absurd headlines, why should I trust the evil liberal media? *shifty eyes*
Gargantua City State
10-03-2006, 20:36
:eek:
Holy fuck, how come we didn't hear about that right when it happened?

The propaganda machine didn't want people to hear it.
If you still think you have the illusion of freedom of speech, then you won't rebel against oppressors, because you don't think they actually exist.
Gargantua City State
10-03-2006, 20:38
You weren't paying attention. I saw this on MSNBC when it happened. Maybe you should spend less time online and more time staring at the television. :)

I watch the news and read the news fairly regularly, and I didn't see this one until now, either. :p There's no way I'd forget about this story if I'd heard it. ;)
Santa Barbara
10-03-2006, 20:47
I seriously doubt some big-time corporate exec decided to call the secret service, instead it was probably some average dude running the photo machine. He probably got worried, for some reason or another and got the permission of the manager and phoned the secret service. There's no grand conspiracy here. Just normal people making a silly mistake.

True, but hey why differentiate between actions of an individual and actions of a corporation when one wants to demonize the latter?

For that matter, the US is evil and stupid because of Fred Phelps.

You weren't paying attention. I saw this on MSNBC when it happened. Maybe you should spend less time online and more time staring at the television.

I saw it and not even on television. I think there was even a thread about it here already, though I'm too lazy to do an advanced search. (If it wasn't here, on another forum I post on.)

But hey, people are looking for an excuse to put on tinfoil hats and claim there was a cover-up and won't be bothered either.
Gruenberg
10-03-2006, 20:56
I'm no fan of Wal Mart, but I'm inclined to agree it's a little ridiculous to blame an entire corporation for the actions of one person, whose motives we can't possibly guess. Why not go for something that actually matters? The teacher describes the whole thing as 'silly': damn right, and it's silly for either side to try to turn this into some political statement.
Vetalia
10-03-2006, 21:01
Well, Wal-Mart was acting within the law so it doesn't really bother me much and isn't a particularly wrong or evil action; honestly, it just seems like some dick at Wal-Mart felt like causing some trouble and decided to turn it in and that led to this whole mess. It was probably someone playing a prank...

However, it also seems odd that the Secret Service would investigate such a thing; I hope this doesn't turn out to be BS like the Mao's Red Book story from a while ago.
Dempublicents1
10-03-2006, 21:05
A student who took a picture of himself giving a "thumbs down" hand gesture next to a picture of Dubya tacked to a wall with a red thumbtack through his head made the mistake of taking his film to Walmart to be processed. Walmart called the secret service who interrogated the student and the teacher who asked the student to make a poster relating to the bill of rights. So now I guess it's Walmart's job to decide what ideas one can or cannot express. Thanks Walmart. Way to look out for American values.

http://progressive.org/mag_mc100405

Wasn't it a Wal-Mart photo developing place that once had parents arrested for child porn because they tried to have pictures of their young children in the bathtub developed?
New Sans
10-03-2006, 21:06
I wonder if I take a picture of myself giving Osama thumbs down and develop it at walmart maybe I'll be sent a medal of honor or something.
Hydesland
10-03-2006, 21:58
Only in america :rolleyes:

In the UK you can take a wizz on a picture of tony blair whilst pledging aleegance to hitler right in front of westminstor and they would still protect your right to free speech.
Eutrusca
10-03-2006, 22:05
For God's sake, you twits! What are you NOT allowed to say/do? No one has ever been able to answer the question of "just what freedoms have you lost?" The very fact of your being able to say on here the things you do gives the lie to your rants about "loss of freedom of speech."

You dweebs need to get over yourselves. :headbang:
Texoma Land
10-03-2006, 22:05
Wasn't it a Wal-Mart photo developing place that once had parents arrested for child porn because they tried to have pictures of their young children in the bathtub developed?

Yep. Again, over zealous employees.

Though that is somewhat understandable given Wal*mart culture. I used to work for the smiley faced beast. It was kind of like being in a cult. They had huge pictures of Sam Walton plasterd all over the place and signs all over the employee areas that said "Sam says..." with all sorts of inspirational gobeldy gook. When you are first hired on you have to complete a multi media course (and pass tests) about how evil unions and the media are. They also have a weekly employee propoganda rag. And lets not forget the demeaning wal*mart cheer you are required to do every day. Some stores even mix the cheer with daily exercises. It's a very bizare enviroment that often breeds fanatisism one way or the other.

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Drunk commies deleted
10-03-2006, 22:05
I wonder if I take a picture of myself giving Osama thumbs down and develop it at walmart maybe I'll be sent a medal of honor or something.
Not unlesss you're in the military. The highest civilian honor is the medal of freedom.
Achtung 45
10-03-2006, 22:08
Not unlesss you're in the military. The highest civilian honor is the medal of freedom.
Medal of freedom? Sounds like something Bush made up, did he? It's Orwellian enough.
Ifreann
10-03-2006, 22:10
Al I can say is woot, there be no Wal*Mart in Ireland!
Achtung 45
10-03-2006, 22:11
Al I can say is woot, there be no Wal*Mart in Ireland!
Ireland, huh?

*paks bags*
Tekania
11-03-2006, 07:16
A student who took a picture of himself giving a "thumbs down" hand gesture next to a picture of Dubya tacked to a wall with a red thumbtack through his head made the mistake of taking his film to Walmart to be processed. Walmart called the secret service who interrogated the student and the teacher who asked the student to make a poster relating to the bill of rights. So now I guess it's Walmart's job to decide what ideas one can or cannot express. Thanks Walmart. Way to look out for American values.

http://progressive.org/mag_mc100405

Reason number 1,376,291,433,784 for not giving Wal-Mart any of my hard earned dollars.
Dobbsworld
11-03-2006, 07:18
that's just idiocy...
No, it's far, far worse than just idiocy.

It's the future.
Romulus Os
11-03-2006, 07:18
Walmart is the face of republican class warfare against working americans
Potarius
11-03-2006, 07:22
In four years, Wal-Mart will become the equivalent of the Shin-Ra corporation, and we'll all be screwed.
Undelia
11-03-2006, 07:23
Walmart is the face of republican class warfare against working americans
0_o Most of the Republicans I know are poor as dirt hicks. It's hardly class warfare. It's the middle and lower class making war on itself.
Dobbsworld
11-03-2006, 07:24
0_o Most of the Republicans I know are poor as dirt hicks.
The dupes.
Undelia
11-03-2006, 07:24
The dupes.
Aye
Romulus Os
11-03-2006, 07:25
0_o Most of the Republicans I know are poor as dirt hicks. It's hardly class warfare. It's the middle and lower class making war on itself.
yeah but the way they do that is being victims of republican rhetoric
Achtung 45
11-03-2006, 07:26
For God's sake, you twits! What are you NOT allowed to say/do? No one has ever been able to answer the question of "just what freedoms have you lost?" The very fact of your being able to say on here the things you do gives the lie to your rants about "loss of freedom of speech."

You dweebs need to get over yourselves. :headbang:
Did you even read the article, or much less the OP? Or did you just post out of blind ignorance like you usually do?
Dobbsworld
11-03-2006, 07:35
Did you even read the article, or much less the OP? Or did you just post out of blind ignorance like you usually do?
What's it going to be? Door number one?

*crowd roars*

Door number two?

*crowd roars even louder*

Or will it be the lifetime supply of Rice-A-Roni, the San Francisco Treat?

*booing, catcalls*

I'll throw in the shoe polisher...
CanuckHeaven
11-03-2006, 07:49
A student who took a picture of himself giving a "thumbs down" hand gesture next to a picture of Dubya tacked to a wall with a red thumbtack through his head made the mistake of taking his film to Walmart to be processed. Walmart called the secret service who interrogated the student and the teacher who asked the student to make a poster relating to the bill of rights. So now I guess it's Walmart's job to decide what ideas one can or cannot express. Thanks Walmart. Way to look out for American values.

http://progressive.org/mag_mc100405
YAY!! A police state, and North Carolina to boot. The resident "centrist" would be pleased?
Achtung 45
11-03-2006, 07:53
YAY!! A police state, and North Carolina to boot. The resident "centrist" would be pleased?
So pleased he didn't even bother to read the OP.
CanuckHeaven
11-03-2006, 08:03
For God's sake, you twits! What are you NOT allowed to say/do? No one has ever been able to answer the question of "just what freedoms have you lost?" The very fact of your being able to say on here the things you do gives the lie to your rants about "loss of freedom of speech."

You dweebs need to get over yourselves. :headbang:
Well according to you people shouldn't egg homes of deceased military people unless they want "a considerably shortened life-span"?

COMMENTARY: This is where it always leads. This is where it lead during the "protests" during the Vietnam war. Neither I nor thousands of other veterans will tolerate this. If you know any "protestors," you can do them a great favor by telling them in no uncertain terms that this sort of behavior could easily result in a considerably shortened life-span.
Now if this was a picture of John Kerry being made fun of, you just would have laughed and given it one thumb up?

However, it wasn't Kerry, it was a picture of King George the Lesser.
Achtung 45
11-03-2006, 08:08
Now if this was a picture of John Kerry being made fun of, you just would have laughed and given it one thumb up?

However, it wasn't Kerry, it was a picture of King George the Lesser.
But, but, but, what's wrong with biased, situational ethics?
Dobbsworld
11-03-2006, 08:10
But, but, but, what's wrong with biased, situational ethics?
Invariably they eventually demand the use of "but, but, but" in conversation. That's what.

;)
Liverbreath
11-03-2006, 08:30
How could something like this be a surprise. What more would anyone expect from a company that had Hillary Clinton sitting on their board of directors for 6 years?
Achtung 45
11-03-2006, 08:35
How could something like this be a surprise. What more would anyone expect from a company that had Hillary Clinton sitting on their board of directors for 6 years?
I dunno, about the same people can expect from a company whose CEO was Dick Cheney for 6 years.
Liverbreath
11-03-2006, 08:51
I dunno, about the same people can expect from a company whose CEO was Dick Cheney for 6 years.

I don't understand your comparison? I don't ever recall him going on record for limits on free speech. Hillary is the one you will recall is the one attacking bloggers and online journalists ... not to mention censoring computer games.
Achtung 45
11-03-2006, 08:54
I don't understand your comparison?There isn't necissarily supposed to be one. I posted that mainly as a joke :p
Dobbsworld
11-03-2006, 09:00
I don't understand your comparison? I don't ever recall him going on record for limits on free speech. Hillary is the one you will recall is the one attacking bloggers and online journalists ... not to mention censoring computer games.
Well, I don't ever recall Hillary shooting somebody in the face, either.
Liverbreath
11-03-2006, 09:00
There isn't necissarily supposed to be one. I posted that mainly as a joke :p

Opps! Sorry, it's getting late here so I am a bit tardy. ;)