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One signifigance is that it started putting out more power than it was getting.

TRIVIA: Also this machine can shoot metal shards 34 km/sec.

sweet jesus "now with sodium"

The temperature

...in my pants.

It was probably a nuclear reaction that generated the extra energy. They probably cracked some tungsten atoms. *nod*

Or... perhaps it was a matter-energy conversion. That'd be revolutionary. *rubs chin thoughtfully*

Holy fuck. new source of power here we come!

How much extra energy was generated? I wonder if it can be eventually modified to produce energy for commercial use?

That's 1999999726.85 ºC.

So...how didn't everything just go on fire?

So...how didn't everything just go on fire?

sunblock. :cool:

So...how didn't everything just go on fire?
Because of the high voltage involved, the Z machine is submerged in oil and water. This image shows lightning arcs beneath the liquid surface.



I guess because water doesn't burn.

Iron fusion?

:cool:

I guess because water doesn't burn.

Even with all that oxygen and hydrogen in it.

I guess because water doesn't burn.
Yea, but from the heat. Anything flammable even outside the water should have gone on fire, no?

Should the water not just have evaporated anyway?

Yea, but from the heat. Anything flammable even outside the water should have gone on fire, no?

Should the water not just have evaporated anyway?

It probably wasn't the whole thing that was that hot - just some very, very, very small part of it.

It was probably a nuclear reaction that generated the extra energy. They probably cracked some tungsten atoms. *nod*

Or... perhaps it was a matter-energy conversion. That'd be revolutionary. *rubs chin thoughtfully*
You're the guy to ask-
I know it isn't but don't know why-why isn't this then a perpetual motion type thing, constant energy?

It probably wasn't the whole thing that was that hot - just some very, very, very small part of it.
Even still, all the bits round it must have been well above water's boiling point.

Iron fusion?

:cool:
Can't be. Iron fusion would use up more energy than it releases IIRC.

so i found the actual published paper, but my physics speak isn't quite up to it on a first glance. awwww.

I daresay, that is very hot.

Jolly hot, in fact.

Even still, all the bits round it must have been well above water's boiling point.

Umm, you missed the part about pressure and magnetic fields and X-rays, right?

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11732814/
One signifigance is that it started putting out more power than it was getting.
TRIVIA: Also this machine can shoot metal shards 34 km/sec.
Wow, realistic fusion is now around the corner!

Umm, you missed the part about pressure and magnetic fields and X-rays, right?
Nope, that's why the water not just evaporating doesn't make much sense to me.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11732814/
One signifigance is that it started putting out more power than it was getting.
That's just ... weird! A "new kind of energy?" Hmm. I wonder where I can read more about this??

Even with all that oxygen and hydrogen in it.
That bugs me so much I put it in a play. (after someone explained why it doesn't to me)

Nope, that's why the water not just evaporating doesn't make much sense to me.

Pressure and magnetic fields are used to contain the hot plasma. It doesn't actually touch anything. And seeing as it's so small, it doesn't actually give off that much heat to the surroundings - itself may be very hot, but how much radiation can it give off it's really tiny? Also, X-rays are easy to block.

Pressure and magnetic fields are used to contain the hot plasma. It doesn't actually touch anything. And seeing as it's so small, it doesn't actually give off that much heat to the surroundings - itself may be very hot, but how much radiation can it give off it's really tiny? Also, X-rays are easy to block.

I'm going to have to take your word for it. I suck at science.

I'm going to have to take your word for it. I suck at science.

IANAP.

If necessary, you could stop the liquids from boiling by putting them under pressure (as in a hydrogen bubble chamber), though it would take some pretty awesome pressure.

IANAP.
Er...yea. IANAP!

Nope, that's why the water not just evaporating doesn't make much sense to me.
The temperature was for a very very small quantity of plasma for a very short amount of time. There really wasn't that much heat, but it was very concentrated. That's why the water didn't evaporate in a flash.

I don't know what the big deal is. They heated it up and someone obviously farted.

I'm betting Chuck Norris has something to do with this.
He probably wants to use it to heat his jacuzzi.
Why? Because he's Chuck Norris and because he can.

I'm betting Chuck Norris has something to do with this.
He probably wants to use it to heat his jacuzzi.
Why? Because he's Chuck Norris and because he can.

Bah. Chuck Norris is nothing compared to how much ill-informed sci-fi writers can wring out of this.

Bah. Chuck Norris is nothing compared to how much ill-informed sci-fi writers can wring out of this.
As in, perhaps, Crichton?
*yet another cult*

That's 1999999726.85 ºC.
Now you are just making numbers up.

Now you are just making numbers up.
Converting Kelvin to Celcius involves subtracting 273.15 degrees, the number appears correct.

Now you are just making numbers up.

yeah, there's no such thing as 9.

Iron fusion?

:cool:
Iron fusion? Doesn't work. It takes out more energy than you put in.

Hell, stars cannot pull it off.

Iron fusion? Doesn't work. It takes out more energy than you put in.

Hell, stars cannot pull it off.

But we're humans. We are teh smartsers than stars.

How do they measure the temperature of something that hot? What property is the temperature changing that they can infer such a high temperature?

How do they measure the temperature of something that hot? What property is the temperature changing that they can infer such a high temperature?

Rectal thermometer, of course!

http://www.acarems.com/images/Medline_rectal_digital_thermometers_kit.jpg

Oh, and congrads on your modship, your Modiness.

How do they measure the temperature of something that hot? What property is the temperature changing that they can infer such a high temperature?

Odds are they don't measure as much as they calculate, even then 2 billion is general, they could be off by a million or more in actuallity.

This is big -- real big. Now if they can just figure out how they did it.

Converting Kelvin to Celcius involves subtracting 273.15 degrees, the number appears correct.
I am well aware of how one converts Celcius to Kelvin.