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Okay, so maybe it's a subjective thing. But I don't think there is a person in the world for whom this one wouldn't be close to the top.

From the Geneva Motorshow:
http://www.porsche.com/filestore.aspx/normal.jpg?pool=germany&type=galleryimage&id=messegenf-911gt3-04&lang=none&filetype=normal
http://www.porsche.com/filestore.aspx/normal.jpg?pool=germany&type=galleryimage&id=messegenf-911gt3-05&lang=none&filetype=normal

Also watch this. It's neat.
http://www.porsche.com/all/originmotorsport/usa.aspx

So what do you say?

I'm pretty sure I just creamed myself..

Ahem.

That's one fuckin' nice car. Definetly near, if not at, the top of my list.

I'm all giggly. I watched the lap but didn't want to interrupt it with all the info on the changes.

I was all prepared to disagree with you, but I'm a die hard Porsche fan. I'm looking forward to the Penske-Porsche at Le Mans this year. I wish they'd put up a GT to go up against the Vette, the 575, and Aston Martin. Then they could win 3 out of 4 categories. Or are they adding a 5th this year? I think I might have read about that, or maybe just hallucinated it...

I saw a couple Cayman S' the other day, one just sitting there and one clearly having a touch of fun. Me wantee.

Unfortunately I chose professional satisfaction over being able to afford these machines...ah well...

What can I say?

I wonder what the going rate for a soul is these days?

I wonder what the going rate for a soul is these days?
Porsche US doesn't have it added to its "Car Configurator" little thingy yet, but www.porsche.de has.

The going rate for one specified to my liking is about 125,000 Euros. Which is about 202,756.20 dollars, which is about 13,500 hours at work.

Peanuts.

best car in the world wouldn't be a car at all but people sized narrow gauge multiple units powered by batteries with onboard solar recharging. maybe no bigger then big enough to sit on if it had to be that small to work.

=^^=
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Is that all? I'll go out & get one tomorrow. I wish.

best car in the world wouldn't be a car at all but people sized narrow gauge multiple units powered by batteries with onboard solar recharging. maybe no bigger then big enough to sit on if it had to be that small to work.

=^^=
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This thing? (http://arabam.milliyet.com.tr/fuar/2003/tokyo/toyota_pm.jpg)

Yeah, that is a nice machine.

I'd still rather have a TVR Tuscan though...

So what do you say?
It's a fantastic car, but I would never buy one. I don't know about elsewhere, but here in Britain it's still impossible to drive a Porsche without looking like a yuppie merchant banker. Porsche's name really took a hit in the late 80s with all the City guys and their big bonuses.

I would put the Aston Martin DB9 at the top of my list of favourite cars. It's an amazing machine, and pornography on wheels.
http://www.parkers.co.uk/choosing/carreviews/gallery/?img=0&model_id=1227&category=Main%20image
They're doing a new four door version, the Rapide, which I can't wait for. It looks simply gorgeous.

The Top Gear DB9 vs a Train remains one of the best pieces of motoring journalism I've ever seen. You can see it online at
http://www.bbc.co.uk/topgear/downloads/
a page, which coincidently has a Porche wallpaper download on it.

I'll try to stop sounding like an advert now.

the DB9 looks fine for a touring car - would love one in my driveway - and the porsche, well still looks it's self after all these years, which is nice to see since this is what appeals to me about it - it.s not o box on wheels - such as the american cars have become over the last 30 years - the fastest production in car in america now is the the Ford GT40 - it is a sexy monster - the same that beat Ferrari in the 60's - same look and lines - would like 10 of them in various colours of course - up north in mid western canada the roads go forever straight -

the DB9 looks fine for a touring car - would love one in my driveway - and the porsche, well still looks it's self after all these years, which is nice to see since this is what appeals to me about it - it.s not o box on wheels - such as the american cars have become over the last 30 years - the fastest production in car in america now is the the Ford GT40 - it is a sexy monster - the same that beat Ferrari in the 60's - same look and lines - would like 10 of them in various colours of course - up north in mid western canada the roads go forever straight -
The Ford GT40 is a great car, but I prefer a car that can handle it in the bends rather than one that has power in the straights. The Ferrari F430, for example.

The classic 911 series isn't dead by the looks of it.

unfortuanetly on the parries there are not alot of turns or shicaynes ( i hope i spelled that correctly ) - however i believe the GT40 's handling is better than the vette's or viper - me i'm a muscel car nut since i owned 3 of them in the early 70's - a 66 cyclone gt 390 series 423 cu in - or 7 litre - a 69 mustang mach 1 428 cobra jet and a stroked 68 firebird ho 389 - love old muscel -

oops - spelled muscle incorrectly - it's an age thing i guess -

unfortuanetly on the parries there are not alot of turns or shicaynes ( i hope i spelled that correctly ) - however i believe the GT40 's handling is better than the vette's or viper - me i'm a muscel car nut since i owned 3 of them in the early 70's - a 66 cyclone gt 390 series 423 cu in - or 7 litre - a 69 mustang mach 1 428 cobra jet and a stroked 68 firebird ho 389 - love old muscel -
It's a different world over here - there are hardly any truly straight roads at all, and try to use the power of a muscle car on a motorway and SNAP! A speed camera gives you an automatic fine and points on your licence. Mind you, the Ferrari F430 isn't brilliant here either; it's too low and will constantly ground on the endless speed humps and driveways. I need a different car for wherever I am in the world...

i also spelled prairies incorrectly -{laughter} i guess i should proof read -

i also spelled prairies incorrectly -{laughter} i guess i should proof read -
:) You can edit your comments to change the spellings if you need to.

Its an awesome car, granted, but I'd still rather have one of these:

McLaren (http://www.seriouswheels.com/mno/Mercedes-Benz-SLR-McLaren-Doors-Open-1600x1200.htm)

Its an awesome car, granted, but I'd still rather have one of these:

McLaren (http://www.seriouswheels.com/mno/Mercedes-Benz-SLR-McLaren-Doors-Open-1600x1200.htm)
That is an awesome car, and about as close to a 'day to day' supercar as you can get.

yes unfortuantly there is simply too many cars now a days on the road - before you could drive 5 miles before you came upon another car - it's bumper to bumper - organized chaos now - and for some just utter chaos - don't know who they paid off to get their license or which cracker jack box came with one - i have seen video of traffic overseas - it's the same hear as well - but you can still get out on the highway's and light them up for a brief distance - and if you have you're lucky rabbits foot the cop is - well... amused -

yeah the Maclrean - here to infinity in seconds or to Sask in a blink - you would have to waite for you're face to catch up of course once you stop - would stretch marks be a problem - some fine manmade engineering -

yeah the Maclrean - here to infinity in seconds or to Sask in a blink - you would have to waite for you're face to catch up of course once you stop - would stretch marks be a problem - some fine manmade engineering -
It's one of the few German cars about without the 155mph electronic limiter on. I never understood the point of the limiter - they say it's for the environment, but surely once you're up to such speeds you're hardly being environmentally friendly anyway? I think it's just so they can save money by not having to work out how to make the tyres/structure/handling etc remain stable at high speeds.

oops - now i spelled Maclaren wrong as well - come on fingers get connected to the motor nerves - i require an upgrade as well i guess -

I think it's just so they can save money by not having to work out how to make the tyres/structure/handling etc remain stable at high speeds.
They can all do it. If you ask AMG when you buy one, they'll put the limit up to 187 or something miles - that's as much as the tires can take over longer distances.
The M5 was clocked during testing at 205 mph, no problems there said the engineers.

The problem is that good drivers aren't the only people who buy them. Some just like the badge, and considering that on some stretches in Germany you can still push as hard as you can, it might be good to put a break on some amateurs. I for one would have to say that I don't trust myself to be able to handle such high speeds.

Anyways, if you want a real-world supercar and your budget doesn't stretch to a 911 Turbo or M3 CS, you can still get an Evo or an STi. They are about as fast as you can ever hope to go.

The problem is that good drivers aren't the only people who buy them. Some just like the badge, and considering that on some stretches in Germany you can still push as hard as you can, it might be good to put a break on some amateurs. I for one would have to say that I don't trust myself to be able to handle such high speeds.
Oh, I'm not disputing this at all, I'm not sure I'd have the guts to get to 155mph even in safe, controlled conditions. I just find it a slightly random place to put a restrictor; why is 155mph safer/more environmentally friendly etc than 150, or 180 or 100?

...why is 155mph safer/more environmentally friendly etc than 150, or 180 or 100?
It's exactly 250 km/h, that's why. They don't concern themselves with Imperialists. :D

i believe the GT40's tops out at 188 mph with a limiter - the Pantera in the 70's stock off the show room floor clocked at bonneville at 203 mph - not bad for a car at that time sold for 11,000 dollars US - was the fastest then and is still in production in texas - and still uses the 351 series engine - and Carol Shelby's new AC type Cobra's are back in production - i need a Shiek as a friend -

or Bill Gates -

It's exactly 250 km/h, that's why. They don't concern themselves with Imperialists. :D
lol :D

i believe the GT40's tops out at 188 mph with a limiter - the Pantera in the 70's stock off the show room floor clocked at bonneville at 203 mph - not bad for a car at that time sold for 11,000 dollars US - was the fastest then and is still in production in texas - and still uses the 351 series engine - and Carol Shelby's new AC type Cobra's are back in production - i need a Shiek as a friend -

The new GT (not GT40, its 44" tall) has a speed-governor at 205mph. Actual top speed is 212mph, tested at some track (can't remeber the name) in Italy. Starts with an N, I think...

For Comparison, the Enzo Ferrari, which costs 4.6 times as much, has a top speed of 217mph. Also, parts are certainly more expensive. Its lateral grip (in Gs) is about equal, too.

For the much less tha the price of (an Enzo, in this case) a GT could be putting out over 1000hp. Hennesey will do it (who else works on GTs?)

The new GT (not GT40, its 44" tall) has a speed-governor at 205mph. Actual top speed is 212mph, tested at some track (can't remeber the name) in Italy. Starts with an N, I think...

For Comparison, the Enzo Ferrari, which costs 4.6 times as much, has a top speed of 217mph. Also, parts are certainly more expensive. Its lateral grip (in Gs) is about equal, too.

For the much less tha the price of (an Enzo, in this case) a GT could be putting out over 1000hp. Hennesey will do it (who else works on GTs?)
Speaking of Hennessey's cars, for about $30k they'll give the GT 710hp/690ft-lbs, which is good for 230mph. Not bad; still less than an AM Vanquish S.

The new GT (not GT40, its 44" tall) has a speed-governor at 205mph. Actual top speed is 212mph, tested at some track (can't remeber the name) in Italy. Starts with an N, I think...

Nardo?

Porsches are great, but they have nothing on Ferrari's Barchetta.

http://www.ferrariusa.com/Superamerica/index.asp

That's the stuff.

That's the stuff.
They're soft though (especially the Superamerica - what a red-carpet car). I'd take nothing short of a 430 CS.

They're soft though (especially the Superamerica - what a red-carpet car). I'd take nothing short of a 430 CS.

I'm not that keen on Ferraris (not that I'm in a position to buy one), they're a bit too much style over substance for me.

I'm not that keen on Ferraris (not that I'm in a position to buy one), they're a bit too much style over substance for me.
There's a fragility to them, whether real or percieved, that I can't really get over. Though I kinda like the 575. But the 911 has that street fighter, abuse taker thing to it for me, part of that rally background. I don't see a Ferrari doing the Paris/Dakar rally.

There's a fragility to them, whether real or percieved, that I can't really get over. Though I kinda like the 575. But the 911 has that street fighter, abuse taker thing to it for me, part of that rally background. I don't see a Ferrari doing the Paris/Dakar rally.

Yes, Porsches have a reputation for durability & reliability that Ferraris don't, even though they're each highly tuned performance cars. I have to respect that.

Yes, Porsches have a reputation for durability & reliability that Ferraris don't, even though they're each highly tuned performance cars. I have to respect that.

Yeah, that's true. I guess I'm just partial to the body style of the Ferraris.

I've always been a Lamborghini fan over everything else, though.