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Apparantly, only 33% of refugees are medically tested before being allowed to enter.

What do you think about this?

Link please.

And considering what sort of conditions apparently are prevalent in the concentration camps (oh, sorry, always get those two mixed up...), it wouldn't even surprise me at all if they were given blankets with the plague on them.

I might not be able to find anything about it. It was on the news just now.

hate to break it to you that the diseases are already there.

hate to break it to you that the diseases are already there.

I'm pretty sure we didn't have all that exotic crap I just heard about.

You know what else causes disease in Australia?

Amoebas (http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2005/08/02/amanda_vanstone_wideweb__430x276.jpg).

You know what else causes disease in Australia?

Amoebas (http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2005/08/02/amanda_vanstone_wideweb__430x276.jpg).

She's Australia's Janet Reno >_>

Apparantly, only 33% of refugees are medically tested before being allowed to enter.

What do you think about this?Is Australia that uncapable of treating any such diseases?

Is it irony when white people in Australia (or the Americas, for that matter,) accuse immigrants of bringing diseases into their country?

Is Australia that uncapable of treating any such diseases?

No, but not before some people have been incapacitated or killed by them.

Is it irony when white people in Australia (or the Americas, for that matter,) accuse immigrants of bringing diseases into their country?

Not in my case, I'm not a settler.

Is it irony when white people in Australia (or the Americas, for that matter,) accuse immigrants of bringing diseases into their country?
No. It might be poetic justice if one were to believe, as you apparently do, that you should blame an entire race for the actions of a bunch of dead guys a few centuries ago.

No, but not before some people have been incapacitated or killed by them.Which diseases then?

Which diseases then?

Can't remember the names. Weird ones.

Do you guys automatically disagree with me when I bring up an issue? You'd probably think that the Darfur genocide was a great thing if I was against it.

No. It might be poetic justice if one were to believe, as you apparently do, that you should blame an entire race for the actions of a bunch of dead guys a few centuries ago.

No need to assume I believe this or that. I do not believe the human race as a whole can be held responsible for what individual members do. If you want to accuse me of anything, accuse me of having a dark, nasty and possibly slightly perverted sense of humor.

EDIT: Or do you mean that white people are a separate race? No, they're not. They're humans, just like the rest.

Can't remember the names. Weird ones.

Do you guys automatically disagree with me when I bring up an issue? You'd probably think that the Darfur genocide was a great thing if I was against it.

No, but you just make ambit, often offensive, claims, without any facts or figures to back them up.

Can't remember the names. Weird ones.

Do you guys automatically disagree with me when I bring up an issue? You'd probably think that the Darfur genocide was a great thing if I was against it.
I'm prone to such behavior, but I do try to resist it. I find it rather surprising though that someone would expect people who have been living in abysmal conditions to be healthy.

I'm prone to such behavior, but I do try to resist it. I find it rather surprising though that someone would expect people who have been living in abysmal conditions to be healthy.

I don't expect them to be healthy. I expect the government to screen them.

I don't expect them to be healthy. I expect the government to screen them.You've also been making statements that let me think this is a major threat to the health of Australians. How often do you come close enough to any such refugees to actually contract one of those diseases? Returning tourists are a greater threat, because not only will they not be screened, they'll also be more likely to spread anything they have in society as a whole.

How often do you come close enough to any such refugees to actually contract one of those diseases?

Every day at school. Every black person is a refugee.

Every day at school. Every black person is a refugee.So, just how close do you get to every black person at school?

So, just how close do you get to every black person at school?

Walk past them, are in class with them, etc.

Every day at school. Every black person is a refugee.


What about the brown ones? Are they all refugees too?

Walk past them, are in class with them, etc.Now which of the diseases you still haven't mentioned can you contract by doing all that?

What about the brown ones? Are they all refugees too?

Every black person here is a refugee. Before the Sudan thing, there were none. Absolutely none. Anywhere. That's how Australia works, every time a war happens, a bunch of people come around that you've never seen before.

Every black person here is a refugee. Before the Sudan thing, there were none. Absolutely none. Anywhere. That's how Australia works, every time a war happens, a bunch of people come around that you've never seen before.

OMG THEYRE CORRUPTING OUR RACIAL PURITY! WHATEVER SHALL WE DO?

Now which of the diseases you still haven't mentioned can you contract by doing all that?

I dunno. Pretty much anything.

Every black person here is a refugee.
Oh fuck you.

http://www.uq.edu.au/economics/index.html?page=15838

I dunno. Pretty much anything.Like what? Malaria? Herpes? Typhus?
One of the main reasons why humanity is still around today is that most of the really dangerous diseases can't be contracted by just being in the same room as a person that has it.

Oh fuck you.

http://www.uq.edu.au/economics/index.html?page=15838I think he means his school. I don't go to his school, so he gets the benefit of the doubt for now.

OMG THEYRE CORRUPTING OUR RACIAL PURITY! WHATEVER SHALL WE DO?

Catch their diseases apparently. :rolleyes:

Every black person here is a refugee.

Given that, when I spent a year in Australia, I found Aboriginals often refer to themelves as "black"... you're mistaken. Unless you mean to say that Aboriginals have become refugees within their own country, that is.

Oh fuck you.

http://www.uq.edu.au/economics/index.html?page=15838

Excuse me? Have you ever been to St.Albans? No? Then shut up.

I have no problem with us African's being tested for deseases when we arrive in countries, have you any idea how many nasty illnesses run wild in Africa. I also have no problem with an island nation testing all incomers, tourists and imagrants, for deseases, because their isolation makes them all the more suceptable to new illnesses. The issue I have is the motivation and the way in which it is portrayed in the press and well as fact that it is targeting Black and Arab Africans. Realistically, if all travelers to Australia, or Britain for that matter, had to produce a medical assessment before hand I'ld have not problem - as long as it wasn't used as a way excluding refugees and political exiles.

Given that, when I spent a year in Australia, I found Aboriginals often refer to themelves as "black"... you're mistaken. Unless you mean to say that Aboriginals have become refugees within their own country, that is.

I'm obviously not talking about aboriginals. There aren't any around here anyway.

I'd be more worried about the british and americans living in Australia illegally (they make up the majority of illegal immigrants in the country) because they're the ones who aren't being locked up in concentra... 'asylum centres' and can therefore run around spreading their northern hemisphere disease..

Excuse me? Have you ever been to St.Albans? No? Then shut up.
I have actually. But not for long.

The point is that not only are most black people in Australia not refugees, but even in St Albans the majority would be immigrants who came in the normal way. I would expect you to show me proof that the black population in St Albans does indeed deviate from that default.

http://www.immi.gov.au/facts/60refugee.htm

I have actually. But not for long.

The point is that not only are most black people in Australia not refugees, but even in St Albans the majority would be immigrants who came in the normal way. I would expect you to show me proof that the black population in St Albans does indeed deviate from that default.

So they all magically appeared at the same time? Right.

So they all magically appeared at the same time? Right.
And you never thought that maybe you just suddenly started noticing them more at the same time?

And you never thought that maybe you just suddenly started noticing them more at the same time?

Yeah. Me and the rest of Brimbank.

What I'm basically getting from you is that at the same time the govt decides to let in refugees from Africa, thousands of Africans, who, let's face it, aren't the richest people in the world, decide to pool their money up and fly over to Australia. Correct?

The Mosquito viruses only have shown up because warm,wet weather is the ideal climate for mosquitos to live in, therefore the viruses are rampant. Do your homework before making such a bland statement. I've been watching too :)

Yeah. Me and the rest of Brimbank.
What high school do you go to, by the way?

What I'm basically getting from you is that at the same time the govt decides to let in refugees from Africa, thousands of Africans, who, let's face it, aren't the richest people in the world, decide to pool their money up and fly over to Australia. Correct?
There are plenty of middle class Africans, you know.

The fact is that I would have to assume that the black immigrant population in Australia has the same characteristics as any other immigrant population. My personal experiences confirm this - the only refugee I have ever met here is from East Timor.

So that is called a Null Hypothesis. To show anything at all, you have to disprove that hypothesis, and if you can't do that, you can't make a claim to the contrary.

I'd be more worried about the british and americans living in Australia illegally (they make up the majority of illegal immigrants in the country) because they're the ones who aren't being locked up in concentra... 'asylum centres' and can therefore run around spreading their northern hemisphere disease..
Yeah Liberalism!

I'm obviously not talking about aboriginals. There aren't any around here anyway.

You said "blacks". I was pointing out to you that your blanket statement was incorrect. Aboriginals I've met, and others whose books I've read, refer to themselves as "blacks".

Where exactly do you live? Aboriginals aren't always outwardly visible, as I hope you know. Many have white skin. I even met an Aboriginal Australia who was part-Japanese, and looked a lot more Japanese than Aboriginal.

I'd be more worried about the british and americans living in Australia illegally (they make up the majority of illegal immigrants in the country)

*nods*

It was an American-born Australian who told me that, actually. Though he hastened to add that he was a legal immigrant. ;)

What high school do you go to, by the way?

Catholic Regional College Sydenham.

The fact is that I would have to assume that the black immigrant population in Australia has the same characteristics as any other immigrant population. My personal experiences confirm this - the only refugee I have ever met here is from East Timor.

Where the heck are you living? Virtually everybody here is a refugee from something. WWII, Vietnam...

Where exactly do you live? Aboriginals aren't always outwardly visible, as I hope you know. Many have white skin. I even met an Aboriginal Australia who was part-Japanese, and looked a lot more Japanese than Aboriginal.

You can usually pick an aboriginal, if they're not one of those fake aboriginals ('I'm 1/64th aboriginal! Gimme back my land you white invaders!'). There was, I think, ONE aboriginal I saw at my school. It was the first aboriginal I think I've ever seen.

0% of wild migratory birds are medically tested before being allowed to enter Australia. Now what do you think of that?!

Fear the Avian Flu, for it is the neo-plague!

0% of wild migratory birds are medically tested before being allowed to enter Australia. Now what do you think of that?!

Fear the Avian Flu, for it is the neo-plague!

Bastardd! How did they escape the mandatory detention?

Where the heck are you living? Virtually everybody here is a refugee from something. WWII, Vietnam...Are they all black?

You can usually pick an aboriginal, if they're not one of those fake aboriginals ('I'm 1/64th aboriginal! Gimme back my land you white invaders!').

Excuse me? Fake Aboriginals?!

You do know, I hope, that there's an established legal definition of who's an Aboriginal and who isn't. And has it ever occured to you that Aboriginals may simply want to try and retain their culture which non-Indigenous society spent two hundred years, until the 1970s and arguably even beyond, trying to exterminate?

Actually, there are people out there who claim to be aboriginal to gain various benefits from the government. I saw an article about it on the front page of The Australian last week. (or it might have been The West Australian, can't remember)

Actually, there are people out there who claim to be aboriginal to gain various benefits from the government. I saw an article about it on the front page of The Australian last week. (or it might have been The West Australian, can't remember)

I've no doubt there are. You will always get people abusing the system. But, as you rightly point out, those are non-Aboriginals trying to milk the system, so punishing or blaming genuine Aboriginals for the misdeeds of non-Indigenous people would be... a tad contradictory, no?

Are they all black?

No, does it matter? By now they're all intergrated, and have children and grandchildren.

Catholic Regional College Sydenham.
Is that a pricey private school?
If it is...what sort of black refugees can afford to go to a school like that?
And what the f*ck sort of hellhole (http://www.crcsydenham.net/mission.html) did they put you in???
Catholic Regional College Sydenham is a faith community missioned by the Church to serve the people of the outer western suburbs.
It consists of students, parents, staff, priests and parishioners from a wide range of backgrounds, but united in one faith in Jesus Christ.

As a Catholic community we recognise the presence of God who challenges us to embrace Gospel values. Through living out our faith we build a stronger foundation on which to seek and understand.
We value the uniqueness of the individual. By developing a sense of conscience and personal integrity, in a spirit of hope, we create an environment which enables all involved to grow towards their full potential.

(Just because I don't wanna be poking fun at people without offering a chance for a return, this (http://www.kenmoreshs.qld.edu.au/principals-welcome.html) was where I went to school...)

Where the heck are you living? Virtually everybody here is a refugee from something. WWII, Vietnam...
Yes, but that hardly counts in the context in which you used the word before.

Is that a pricey private school?
If it is...what sort of black refugees can afford to go to a school like that?
And what the f*ck sort of hellhole (http://www.crcsydenham.net/mission.html) did they put you in???

Nobody cares about that faith shit. And it's not particularly pricey. I think.[/QUOTE]

Yes, but that hardly counts in the context in which you used the word before.

In the old days, everyone was a refugee and people were stupid. Now we know that diseases are dangerous and refugees should be checked.