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I'm rather tired of people on here instantly assuming that if I am a Christian I hold the American right wing political stance. Yes I may oppose abortion and gay marriage but unlike the religious right, I do not support the death penelty and I favour gun control and deteriant taxes on alcohol and cigeretes. There have been many times on this forum when I have been called a hypocryte for opposing abortion but supporting the death penelty when the fact of the matter is I dont. I would apreicate less assumption from everyone on this issue

I'm rather tired of people on here instantly assuming that if I am a Christian I hold the American right wing political stance. Yes I may oppose abortion and gay marriage but unlike the religious right, I do not support the death penelty and I favour gun control and deteriant taxes on alcohol and cigeretes. There have been many times on this forum when I have been called a hypocryte for opposing abortion but supporting the death penelty when the fact of the matter is I dont. I would apreicate less assumption from everyone on this issue
I do agree, it doesn't seem possible to hold a central viewpoint on anything. Even those who say 'all views are valid' think you're an idiot if you don't agree with that view.

But I'm not complaining. Why come on the forum if not for debate? It's not as if anyone is ever going to convince anyone else of anything.

haha you disagree with me on everything

i guess i'm pro death or something

I do agree, it doesn't seem possible to hold a central viewpoint on anything. Even those who say 'all views are valid' think you're an idiot if you don't agree with that view.


Its as if if your not in a pigon hole you dont matter.

I'm rather tired of people on here instantly assuming that if I am a Christian I hold the American right wing political stance. Yes I may oppose abortion and gay marriage but unlike the religious right, I do not support the death penelty and I favour gun control and deteriant taxes on alcohol and cigeretes. There have been many times on this forum when I have been called a hypocryte for opposing abortion but supporting the death penelty when the fact of the matter is I dont. I would apreicate less assumption from everyone on this issue

Come to England, the Catholic Chirch os overwhelmingly left wing, as it is in most place in the world - especially South America.

I went to a new Church in Oxford and, in fornt of an assortment of mediterrainian types, the Priest asked me about my politics. I was rather bemused but explained by left wing politics. The point he was making was to the mediterrainians who also seemed to think Catholic = conservative. Bizarre.

I generally go both ways when it comes to politics and religion.

You should not immediately assume that a Christian is a Neo-Con or Rebublican, nor should you assume that a Republican or Neo-Con deserves to call himself a Christian.

There are always exeptions...there are never absolutes.

"synonomoys"

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Come to England, the Catholic Chirch os overwhelmingly left wing, as it is in most place in the world - especially South America.


I'm British. I am at univesrity in Canterbury

I'm British. I am at univesrity in Canterbury
That's probably why you don't understand it, then. Christianity in America seems to be very different to the Christianity here in Britain, and as most people on the forum are American, you get put in the same camp as American Christians.

That's probably why you don't understand it, then. Christianity in America seems to be very different to the Christianity here in Britain, and as most people on the forum are American, you get put in the same camp as American Christians.

You should try being a Russian Orthodox who lives in Australia, and then see what sort of assumptions you get lumped with.

But I agree with both you and the original poster.

I once put a post on a thread here that argued that George W. Bush was the most un-Christian president in modern American history, and found myself being congratulated for my ironic sense of humour.

But I was serious....

I'm rather tired of people on here instantly assuming that if I am a Christian I hold the American right wing political stance.

the issue is that the republicans have very thoroughly captured that rhetorical territory here, so it's sort of natural for people to make that jump. the organized christian political groups of any note make enough noise that nobody can forget the association. the not so politically organized bits of american christianity are the ones that don't fit in to that mold. like, um, all the mainline churches. but since they aren't organized politically, they get lost in the background noise to the constant drumbeat of the rightwing groups.

Come to England, the Catholic Chirch os overwhelmingly left wing, as it is in most place in the world - especially South America.

Really? That hasn't been my experience (please bear in mind I was born and raised Catholic).

I'm not denying there are left wing Catholics, just that it hasn't seemed to me the Catholic congregation is overwhelmingly Catholic, not really overwhelmingly anything.

the organized christian political groups of any note make enough noise that nobody can forget the association.
I think that is starting to happen to a certain extent here in Britain too - although it's more to do with the mainstream churches fighting among themselves than any organised 'religious right'. Pretty much the only time the Church of England has been in the news recently, for example, is about the danger of it splitting over homosexual ordination, and so the view among non-religious people becomes one of 'C of E against gays' because of the way the media portray the issue.

"synonomoys"

bwahahahahahahahahahaha!

Behave. Adriatica II seems to be dyslexic.

Behave. Adriatica II seems to be dyslexic.

OK.

I'm not denying there are left wing Catholics, just that it hasn't seemed to me the Catholic congregation is overwhelmingly Catholic, not really overwhelmingly anything.
I think the majority of Christians around the world generally fall into three broad categories:

1) Fundamentalist. Everything in the Bible is literal. There is no argument.
2) Moderate. Fall on one side of the fence or another, but accept the other side has a different viewpoint and isn't necessarily Satan himself for thinking that way. Places the fact Christ died for us as the main 'point' of Christianity, and other issues, while highly important, should not override church unity and the idea of a universal Christian Church.
3) Not really interested in church politics at all. Generally has views, but would be horrified to be lumped in the same category as 1). Simply a good person trying to do the right thing.

I realise that a thread on 'how annoying generalisations are' probably shouldn't have such a generalisation in, but the catergories are broad and I think it is a pretty accurate representation of the church.

Really? That hasn't been my experience (please bear in mind I was born and raised Catholic).

I'm not denying there are left wing Catholics, just that it hasn't seemed to me the Catholic congregation is overwhelmingly Catholic, not really overwhelmingly anything.

Perhaps 'generally' would be better than 'overwhelmingly'.

Much of it is affected by two of the main Catholic centres in Britain being Glasgow and Liverpool.

Perhaps 'generally' would be better than 'overwhelmingly'.

Much of it is affected by two of the main Catholic centres in Britain being Glasgow and Liverpool.

Most probably. But still I come from a similar culture (Irish Catholic immigrant), though just down the road, Manchester, and haven't noticed anything. Though that could be because of other factors, such as I didn't really become interested in politics untill after I had largely left my religion etc behind.