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Ok.


Name some good stuff that
George Bush did
Nazi's did
the K.K.K did

Name some bad stuff that
Churchill did
Lincoln did
Jesus did.



If you can pass all 6 you can have a cookie.

Name some good stuff that
George Bush did: Worked with Gorbachev to break down the Cold War barriers between East and West
Nazi's did: Rebuilt German economy, made nation an international powerhouse
the K.K.K did: Provided social and economic aid to displaced veterans after the Civil War

Name some bad stuff that
Churchill did: I don't know enough about him, but I believe he was not particularly generous in India, if not brutal towards the natives
Lincoln did: Suspended Constitutional freedoms in certain areas, was a white supremacist
Jesus did: Killed somebody's pigs and didn't pay them back?

GB: W/ the invasion of Iraq, got Libya to drop its nuke program.
Nazi's: Medical and Tech developments
KKK: Indirectly advanced civil rights


Churchil: Allowed bombing of town (forget the name) to keep secrets (marginally bad, I know)
Lincoln: suspended habeus corpus amongst other rights
Jesus: discouraged the banking industry

Despite the inevitable "don't feed the troll" protests, I'll do this one anyway.

Bush: he's probably prevented some real attacks. Oh, and he was almost going to fund the Mars mission.
Nazis: Gun control
KKK: this one's tough...a particularly silly movie?

These are easier, though

Churchill: ignored palestinian desire for statehood
Lincoln: abolished habeas corpus
Jesus: founded christianity, wasted money on some oil

Name some good stuff that
George Bush did:
He has admitted that global warming is happening and that human activity is a major factor. Not even Clinton said it that clearly.

Nazi's did:
The Autobahn of course, various missiles and other new technology - and they effectively destroyed militarism and nationalism in Germany.

the K.K.K did:
I don't know much about them. I couldn't even tell you any specifics about the bad stuff they did.

Name some bad stuff that
Churchill did:
That's easy, but I'll pick just one: Gassing the Iraqis.
I do not understand this squeamishness about the use of gas. We have definitely adopted the position at the Peace Conference of arguing in favour of the retention of gas as a permanent method of warfare. It is sheer affectation to lacerate a man with the poisonous fragment of a bursting shell and to boggle at making his eyes water by means of lachrymatory gas. I am strongly in favour of using poisoned gas against uncivilised tribes. The moral effect should be so good that the loss of life should be reduced to a minimum. It is not necessary to use only the most deadly gases: gases can be used which cause great inconvenience and would spread a lively terror and yet would leave no serious permanent effects on most of those affected.

Lincoln did:
Playing around with proper judicial and political procedure.

Jesus did:
Inspire Christianists.

Hmm. Bush is in theory working towards clean energy.

I'm sure Churchill suspended some wartime freedoms.

Same with Lincoln

Jesus inspired the religion responsible for the Inquisition, and possibly the Crusades, (depends on who you ask)

Do I get four/sixths of a cookie?

Hmm. Bush is in theory working towards clean energy.

I'm sure Churchill suspended some wartime freedoms.

Same with Lincoln

Jesus inspired the religion responsible for the Inquisition, and possibly the Crusades, (depends on who you ask)

Do I get four/sixths of a cookie?

No you get a teacake and a glass of milk.

George Bush did: Stopped drinking.

Nazi's did: Brought pride to a nation that had been mistreated by the Treaty of Versailles.

the K.K.K did: I have actually no idea, the nearest I can think it bound communities together and gave people meaning to their life.

Name some bad stuff that

Churchill did: Bombed brown people and justified saying:

" I am strongly in favour of using poisonous gas against uncivilised tribes ... to spread a lively terror"

Lincoln did: I'd be hard pressed to give anything Lincoln did other then freeing the slaves and being in charge during the Civil War malarky

Jesus did: He made a date tree sterile and barren. Does that count?



If you can pass all 6 you can have a cookie.[/QUOTE]

Name some good stuff that
George Bush did
Afganastan
Nazi's did
made jets
the K.K.K did
made pillow cases a vary interesting fasion statment

Name some bad stuff that
Churchill did
that invasion of Turkey in WWI I can't remember it's name Gallipoli or soemthing like that.
Lincoln did
suspended Habeious Corpous or however you spell it
Jesus did.
threw his friend off a rood. (read the Gnostic goesples)

Give me my cookie NOW!

Either your being funny, you misread the question or you should be lynched.

I misread the question. You can lynch me if you delete my quote from your post.

I misread the question. You can lynch me if you delete my quote from your post.
he absolutely can NOT lynch you....you are one of my new favorite posters (I only have 6)

Name some good stuff that
George Bush did: Worked with Gorbachev to break down the Cold War barriers between East and West
And freed Panama, and that funny country whose name sounds like Grenade
Desert Storm too

You get a cookie for figuring out he didn't say which Gerorge.

threw his friend off a rood. (read the Gnostic goesples)


Any particular one?

Though I'd be less inclined to believe the gnostic gospels than the synoptic ones.

I applaud the thread starter for lumping G W Bush in with the Nazis and the KKK as the evil ones.

And freed Panama, and that funny country whose name sounds like Grenade
Wasn't that Ronnie?

No you get a teacake and a glass of milk.

Long as it's not fruitcake! :p

George Bush didn't nuke the entire middle east.
Nazi's made the US a super power with WW2.
The K.K.K makes muslim terrorists seem sane.


Churchill was a racist and was rude to those he knew.
Lincoln was pychotic and possibly considered suicide.
Jesus is the father of socialism (he got mad at a guy for trading).

-George Bush is easy because he's arguable. Sure, I don't personally agree with him on just about anything, but that doesn't mean that he's null and void as a good president on every point.

That being said, one unarguably good thing (unless you count that it let him become president, I guess) is that he stopped drinking. That's a good thing. Shows self control.

-Nazis: Completely restarted Germany, brought it back into power. For Germany, that was good. Also hosted the 1936 Olympics in Berlin. Indirectly allowed the state of Israel to be created (that is, Holocaust helped give jews momentum to go to Israel). Also, by having WWII happen, eventually recovered America's economy.

-KKK: Were used as the subject for DW Griffith's rather brilliant film "Birth of a Nation", even if it was racist. Art and culture are important.
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-Churchill: Generally thought of as a man who was not a good peacetime leader. Little support for education, health care, etc.

Lincoln: Abolished slavery, but did not do things to actually make blacks and whites fully equal. Also chose Andrew Johnson, a conservative Southern-Democrat, as his Vice President to balance his cabinet and such, but after Lincoln's death Johnson was none too friendly to reconstruction and such.

Jesus: Technically impossible if you believe him to be the son of god. That being said, I do not, so I'd say that spreading christianity, which I do not believe to be true, is a bad thing.
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This isn't propoganda or something like that. It's just true.

Reading properly this time, so as not to induce self-loathing...


Name some good stuff that
George Bush did
Nazi's did
the K.K.K did

Name some bad stuff that
Churchill did
Lincoln did
Jesus did.


George Bush gave material to stand-up comedians
Nazis improved the german economy
KKK gave its members a sense of unity

Churchill did whatever got him voted out after the war
Lincoln might have owned slaves IIRC
Jesus founded christianity, which requires the exclusive worship of one god, causing those who belonged to other religions to be treated as heretics.

So where's my cookie?

he absolutely can NOT lynch you....you are one of my new favorite posters (I only have 6)

I'm honoured. :)

So where's my cookie?

Its in the mail.

Ok.


Name some good stuff that
George Bush did
Nazi's did
the K.K.K did

Name some bad stuff that
Churchill did
Lincoln did
Jesus did.



If you can pass all 6 you can have a cookie.

George Bush: Assuming you're referring to Junior and not Daddy: Stopped Libya's nuclear program, inspired enormous amounts of national unity after 9/11. Signed the Patriot Act.

Nazis: Rebuilt Germany's infrastructure and overall improved the quality of life there. (Apart from the Jews and anyone else sent to camps, obviously, but that's beside the point you nooblets.)

K.K.K.: Indirectly advanced civil rights much further than they might have had groups like the K.K.K. not been around to be a focus for civil-liberties groups to target and whatnot.

Churchill: Was a racist; had no qualms about gassing anyone; acted like a supreme moral authority when in reality he was just in the right place at the right time.

Lincoln: White supremecists; extreme hypocrite.

Jesus: Was the inspiration for one of the single most ridiculous cults in the history of all time.

...Signed the Patriot Act...
Why do you insist on spelling it like that?

At best, it would have to be spelled "PATRIOT", with all capitals, preferrably with dots in between.

There is nothing patriotic about the "Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism Act of 2001".

Since a lot of people seem to be blaming Jesus for christianty, and the things that were done in his name. Isn't that a bit like blaming The Beatles for the actions of Charles Manson?

Why do you insist on spelling it like that?

At best, it would have to be spelled "PATRIOT", with all capitals, preferrably with dots in between.

There is nothing patriotic about the "Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism Act of 2001".

To be honest I think one should be worried by anything any organisation does where the name is engineered so the abbreviation will read PATRIOT or similar.

Since a lot of people seem to be blaming Jesus for christianty, and the things that were done in his name. Isn't that a bit like blaming The Beatles for the actions of Charles Manson?

Only if blaming the beatles helps me answer a test.

To be honest I think one should be worried by anything any organisation does where the name is engineered so the abbreviation will read PATRIOT or similar.
Exactically!

1) I find it funny that in a thread with an implicit "propoganda distorts people's views" message, GW Bush is placed with the KKK and Nazis. This seems to imply that most propoganda is directed against GW. If youve ever watched FOX, you know this isnt the case. This assumption seems to reflect a personal attitude which has most likely been formed by propoganda. There is plenty of propoganda both for and against Bush, even if we assume there is more against him.


2) most people are saying suspension of civil liberties for Lincoln. Suspension of civil liberties in and of itself is not a bad thing. For instance, being put in jail is a suspension of civil liberties, though it is generally accepted as a good thing for murderers. Obviously this is a watered down comparison. Lincoln's suspension of civil liberties can be argued as justified and necessary. Note that my actual opinion is irrelevant.

3)Saying Jesus starting Christianity is dumb and everyone knows. Yes, bad things have come from Christianity. However, good things have come from it also, so its not acceptable to just label all Christianity as a bad thing. Atheists can be just as obnoxious as the religious in the realm of self righteousness.

4) Using Jesus is counterproductive due to the large amount of controversy surrounding him (I guess the same is true with GWB). More importantly, naming a "bad thing he did" is near impossible due to the fact that there is little actual evidence of what he did or did not do. Even amongst Christians there is disagreement on his intentions and actions.


This could have been a really good post had you omitted Bush and Jesus.

Nazi's did:
The Autobahn of course, various missiles and other new technology - and they effectively destroyed militarism and nationalism in Germany.

Actually the Allies destroyed nationalism in Germany.

Jesus did:
Inspire Christianists.
What is this? Is it different to a regular Christian?


Nazis: Gun control

Jesus: founded christianity, wasted money on some oil
You amuse me.

Actually the Allies destroyed nationalism in Germany.
After having been inspired to do so by the Nazis.

What is this? Is it different to a regular Christian?
Just like an Islamist is different from a Muslim. It's regressive, political Christians - like the Fundies in the US.

It's regressive, political Christians - like the Fundies in the US.
Silly! Don't you know, those guys are inspired by either their own egotism, or lust for money. Very un-Christlike attributes.

What is this? Is it different to a regular Christian?
Well, an Islamist advocate an Islamic revivalist movement, often characterized by moral conservatism, literalism, and the attempt to implement Islamic values in all spheres of life. (dictionary.com), so maybe a Christianist is the Christian equivalent?

One question for y'all...why do you continue to let Satan rule your lives? Do you honestly believe Jesus is "bad"? People, believe it or not, Jesus is the Son of God. How do I know? Because the Bible says so, and the Bible has NEVER, I repeat, NEVER been proven wrong. The prophecies it contains have all been fulfilled to the tee, with the exception of a few which are specifically stated to occur at the end of all time, which I don't believe has occured yet. Also, the Bible is chock-full of historical facts, people, places, and events unequaled by any other single volume. You can dog the Bible, you can reject the Saviour, and you can defy Christianity, but it is still the only way.

P.S. The Inquisition was the Catholics' (not to be confused with Christians, meaning, "Christ-like") "holy war" against non-Catholics, while the Crusades were the Catholics' (same people) "holy wars" against Muslims. BTW, Jesus never threw anyone off of a rood (whatever the heck that is!), nor did he get mad at a guy for trading, unless you refer to the instance in which he drove the merchants out of the Temple, the House of God! Jesus, a socialist? Please! A fanatic, hardly!

Well, an Islamist advocate an Islamic revivalist movement, often characterized by moral conservatism, literalism, and the attempt to implement Islamic values in all spheres of life. (dictionary.com), so maybe a Christianist is the Christian equivalent?

Yes but a literalist Christian would have to you know... feel genuine empathy and compassion for those around him, adamantly refuse to judge the character of others, and be devoted to selflessness and humility. You know the kind of things that fundamentalists today totally lack in any way shape or form. Ironic, eh?

Name some good stuff that
George Bush did
Nazi's did
the K.K.K did

1) He got rid of terrorism around the world
2) Provided humanity with useful information regarding the human body. They also tried to make the world a better place with one one kind of people.
3) They showed that black people were indeed inferior to white people.

Name some bad stuff that
Churchill did
Lincoln did
Jesus did.

1) He had an affair with FDR :eek:
2) Didn't care if slaves were freed or not
3) On second thought, I plead the 5th so as not to possibly start a giant flame war.

George Bush did----Hate to say it, but he's right about the port deal
Nazi's did---Hitler started Volkswagon because he saw that transportation would be the technology of the future
the K.K.K did---right after the war they provided aid to the suffering whites

Name some bad stuff that
Churchill did--Made deal to allow Russia to take Berlin
Lincoln did--Failed to end slavery....only ended it in areas not under govenment control
Jesus did.---Didn't write down his thoughts himself


I'll take chocolate chip.

Name some good stuff that
George Bush did
Nazi's did
the K.K.K did

They inspired their enemies.

Name some bad stuff that
Churchill did
Lincoln did
Jesus did.
They inspired their enemies.

Seriously, though:

Bush shows enough political awareness to back down when he goes too far -- more than his veep can do.

The Nazis rebuilt the German economy and forced the Germans and many others to question themselves in the aftermath, which WWI didn't do.

The KKK succeeds only in their failures -- they spurred the civil rights movement and made themselves easy to identify.

Churchill was a bloodthirsty, racist, elitist bastard who could not lead effectively in peacetime.

Lincoln supsended habeus corpus -- he had the lawful power to do so but it was the wrong thing to do, imo.

Jesus became a religious leader, which is a lot like being a drug dealer, imo. He didn't mean any harm, but the road to hell is indeed paved with good intentions.

Name some good stuff that
George Bush did: Vaguely amusing; not the worst fuck-up in the presidency; I understand he won't eat broccoli
Nazi's did: Authobahn; repairing Germany; forcing the Allies to confront the mess they constructed with the Treaty of Versailles; Operation Barbarossa (Yeah, it failed, but if they hadn't had Churchill and FDR being such bitches the Nazis may well have toppled Stalin, the definite greater of the two evils); WWII revolutionised technology and drew the US from depressed third rate n00bs to kings of the world stage; WWII forced action against Japan; toppled the pathetic Weimar Republic so it could be replaced after the War; Return to Castle Wolfenstein; produced a wide array of crazy weapon designs to stare at; Kick ass fashion sense; etc; etc
the K.K.K did: Their actions led to the birth of the NRA as a way to arm blacks; their craziness helped make racism unfashionable; South Park would be greatly lessened without the KKK to mock

Name some bad stuff that
Churchill did: Sided with Stalin over Hitler (but who can really blame him? I mean, all Stalin wanted to do was kill and oppress filthy 3rd world countries, Hitler, on the other hand, had the nerve not to play by the stupid rules the Allies established after their post-Great War pussy fest); gasing Iraqis; thinking he was more bad ass than he really was
Lincoln did: Suspended the writ of Habeous Corpus; unleashed Sherman; irrevocably expanded the power of the central government at the expense of everyone not in the central government; etc
Jesus did: Founded Christianity, which led to the rise of Marilyn Manson (who sounds like crap, and would have gotten nowhere without controversy); Founded Christianity, infecting the world with all of his stupid-ass moral qualms; Founded Chrstianity, which would be "parodied" time and again with the same stupid material spawned a thousand cracks/rants from idiots about "black" Jesus (he was a fucking Hebrew, Jesus Christ); ruined a perfectly good tree to make his cross (throwing yourself off the temple not good enough for you?)

If you can pass all 6 you can have a cookie.
I believe that, for my efforts, I deserve a cookie-cake.

Name some good stuff that
George Bush did:
He has admitted that global warming is happening and that human activity is a major factor. Not even Clinton said it that clearly.


actually Clinton signed the Kyoto Protocal because he realized that global warming was a problem and that people needed to slow it down.

W on the other hand dropped out of the Kyoto Protocal because he said that there wasn't enough evidence to prove that global warming actually existed.

Ok.


Name some good stuff that
George Bush did
Nazi's did
the K.K.K did

Name some bad stuff that
Churchill did
Lincoln did
Jesus did.



If you can pass all 6 you can have a cookie.


George Bush... didn't start a nuclear war (yet...)
Nazi's.... saved US capitalism
the KKK... something about Birth of a Nation, oh and Forrest Gump was named after the founder of the KKK so that's something, i guess

Churchill... was a womanizer and an alcoholic (like all good political leaders)
Lincoln... arrested pro-Slavery politicians in maryland the day before maryland was going to vote on whether or not to allow slavery; obstruction of democracy. best picture of lincoln ever (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v46/joshat22/abe.jpg)
Jesus... unAmerican (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v46/joshat22/bush_jesus.jpg)


cookie?

Originally Posted by The Jovian Moons
And freed Panama, and that funny country whose name sounds like Grenade

Wasn't that Ronnie?

Acctually it was Jimmy Carter. He signed the Torrijos-Carter Treaties.
Here is the wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Canal) for it. Next to last paragraph in the history section.

One question for y'all...why do you continue to let Satan rule your lives? Do you honestly believe Jesus is "bad"? People, believe it or not, Jesus is the Son of God. How do I know? Because the Bible says so, and the Bible has NEVER, I repeat, NEVER been proven wrong. The prophecies it contains have all been fulfilled to the tee, with the exception of a few which are specifically stated to occur at the end of all time, which I don't believe has occured yet. Also, the Bible is chock-full of historical facts, people, places, and events unequaled by any other single volume. You can dog the Bible, you can reject the Saviour, and you can defy Christianity, but it is still the only way.

P.S. The Inquisition was the Catholics' (not to be confused with Christians, meaning, "Christ-like") "holy war" against non-Catholics, while the Crusades were the Catholics' (same people) "holy wars" against Muslims. BTW, Jesus never threw anyone off of a rood (whatever the heck that is!), nor did he get mad at a guy for trading, unless you refer to the instance in which he drove the merchants out of the Temple, the House of God! Jesus, a socialist? Please! A fanatic, hardly!
Wow! I started laughing but by the end of the post, i was on the floor, sucking my thumb and sobbing out in fear of the consequences of my lack of faith! Woe is me!! :rolleyes:

Name some bad stuff that
Churchill did

Churchill was a drinker and an egotist.

One question for y'all...why do you continue to let Satan rule your lives?

Because he's a cool dude, and makes a mean tofu dinner, not to mention his breakdancing skills.

Do you honestly believe Jesus is "bad"?

Ooh! Ooh! Do we get to do the Doctor Evil thing around "bad". Pleeeease? No, we don't believe Jesus was bad, he just didn't have good foresight.

People, believe it or not, Jesus is the Son of God.

..Yeah, but God's a sorta douchy guy who sleeps around with other men's wives.

How do I know? Because the Bible says so, and the Bible has NEVER, I repeat, NEVER been proven wrong.

On that note, my wang says you've got a large animal of some kind gnawing at your testicles, causing your poor humour. On that note, my wang has NEVER, I repeat, NEVER been proven wrong. Nothing my wang has said has ever been disproved.

The prophecies it contains have all been fulfilled to the tee, with the exception of a few which are specifically stated to occur at the end of all time, which I don't believe has occured yet.

It was called 1998. Jesus, get a book or something.

Also, the Bible is chock-full of historical facts, people, places, and events unequaled by any other single volume.

...You mean an ENCYCLOPAEDIA?!!? Oh, wait. Those things don't have examples of how God cursed the testicles of those who would not follow him.

You can dog the Bible, you can reject the Saviour, and you can defy Christianity, but it is still the only way.

Wait. Wait, wait, wait, wait. You're telling me that I can reject the Saviour, defy Christianity, and have my dog mark its territory on an old Bible, and that's the only way to live my life? But then my Bible smells like pee!

P.S. The Inquisition was the Catholics' (not to be confused with Christians, meaning, "Christ-like") "holy war" against non-Catholics, while the Crusades were the Catholics' (same people) "holy wars" against Muslims.

Let me explain this in small words. Actually, screw that. Catholics are a sub-group of Christians. Protestants are a sub-group of Christians. Mormons are a sub-group of Christians. Are we getting anywhere now?

BTW, Jesus never threw anyone off of a rood (whatever the heck that is!),

My wang says he does. And let me remind you, my wang has NEVER been proven wrong.

nor did he get mad at a guy for trading, unless you refer to the instance in which he drove the merchants out of the Temple, the House of God! Jesus, a socialist? Please! A fanatic, hardly!

...Dude, seriously. Were you there? Did you see it? No, no, I have a better idea. We can solve this through simple and pure truth!

HT: Hey, wang
Wang: Yes?
HT: Was Jesus a fanatic
Wang: Yes. Yes he was.
HT: Well, no-one's ever proved you wrong, wangmeister. Go back to sleep now.
Wang: 'k

There. Irrefutable proof that Jesus was a fanatic. Let me remind you, my wang said so, and my wang has NEVER, let me repeat, NEVER, been proven wrong.

:upyours: Wait, wait, wait.:upyours:

Moderators. :upyours: This thread is a very violation of the rules you suppose to uphold.:upyours:
What do you call it --- :upyours: Flaming?

HT: Hey, wang
Wang: Yes?
HT: Was Jesus a fanatic
Wang: Yes. Yes he was.
HT: Well, no-one's ever proved you wrong, wangmeister. Go back to sleep now.
Wang: 'k


Your wang goes to sleep? WTFHIGO?!? :eek:

Your wang goes to sleep? WTFHIGO?!? :eek:


another violation of the rules :upyours:

Your wang goes to sleep? WTFHIGO?!? :eek:

Well, there's an interesting story behind that... It goes back when I was a young nuclear scientist, and had access to a large amount of radia-.. Ah, never mind. It'd probably be boring, anyways.

another violation of the rules :upyours:

Really? How...?

See, I don't really think so...

Everybody sees what I mean.

Liberal losers get away with putting down mainstream American values (Christianity, Bush --- and stupidly attempting to mix in the KKK and Hitler -- and then degenerating into further lies from liberals).

But let a conservative Christian mention anything about the losers on this thread and they are 85'd.

The moderators need to shut this thread down now.

Otherwise, they are liars (they are not following the same rules they enforce on people with views that differ from their twisted, hateful, bigoted, little liberal minds).

Shall I start a thread about Clinton and his cigar? Hillary and her lesbian lover? Shall we mention the Gore word?

Everybody sees what I mean.

Liberal losers get away with putting down mainstream American values (Christianity, Bush --- and stupidly attempting to mix in the KKK and Hitler -- and then degenerating into further lies from liberals).

But let a conservative Christian mention anything about the losers on this thread and they are 85'd.

The moderators need to shut this thread down now.

Otherwise, they are liars (they are not following the same rules they enforce on people with views that differ from their twisted, hateful, bigoted, little liberal minds).

Shall I start a thread about Clinton and his cigar? Hillary and her lesbian lover? Shall we mention the Gore word?

I guess we've found out how deep the propaganda goes, anyway.

Shall I start a thread about Clinton and his cigar? Hillary and her lesbian lover? Shall we mention the Gore word?

Woah, what? :confused: I think Hillary just found a way to reach the male voters...:D

Okay. the rules are, when I stray from the topic, you are not to follow.

These rules are clearly posted at the top of the forums.

For people to have 600-some or more posts and not follow the rules..... just shows a lot about them.... btw....I think everybody that answered the question should get a cookie.

Promising something you can't deliver is of course a lie. That's how I knew it was a liberal who started this crapola.

You certainly live up to your screen name, pissedoffwhitemen...

Hitler - made little moustaches and not bending your knees a fashion statement

KKK - justified sleeping with your sister as a way to preserve racial purity

Jesus - gave the Romans more to clean up after the half time show

Hitler - made little moustaches and not bending your knees a fashion statement

KKK - justified sleeping with your sister as a way to preserve racial purity

Jesus - gave the Romans more to clean up after the half time show

:eek: I don't even want to know.....

P.S. Bump.

Promising something you can't deliver is of course a lie. That's how I knew it was a liberal who started this crapola.Is Europa Alpha even American? :confused:

One question for y'all...why do you continue to let Satan rule your lives? Do you honestly believe Jesus is "bad"? People, believe it or not, Jesus is the Son of God. How do I know? Because the Bible says so, and the Bible has NEVER, I repeat, NEVER been proven wrong. The prophecies it contains have all been fulfilled to the tee, with the exception of a few which are specifically stated to occur at the end of all time, which I don't believe has occured yet. Also, the Bible is chock-full of historical facts, people, places, and events unequaled by any other single volume. You can dog the Bible, you can reject the Saviour, and you can defy Christianity, but it is still the only way.

P.S. The Inquisition was the Catholics' (not to be confused with Christians, meaning, "Christ-like") "holy war" against non-Catholics, while the Crusades were the Catholics' (same people) "holy wars" against Muslims. BTW, Jesus never threw anyone off of a rood (whatever the heck that is!), nor did he get mad at a guy for trading, unless you refer to the instance in which he drove the merchants out of the Temple, the House of God! Jesus, a socialist? Please! A fanatic, hardly!You convinced me. All this time I was going about in my wicked ways, following the path of the devil. How could I have been so blind to think that I couldn't know what was really the case until I was dead? And all it took was one honest Christian to open my eyes.
Tell you what, I'll find the next Mormon running around here and convert to Christianity immediatly!

George Bush- good response to 9/11
Nazis- Turned Germany into an industrial power, albeit an evil one
KKK- No idea.

Churchill- alcoholic
Lincoln- White supremacist
Jesus- turned children into donkeys

One question for y'all...why do you continue to let Satan rule your lives? Do you honestly believe Jesus is "bad"? People, believe it or not, Jesus is the Son of God. How do I know? Because the Bible says so, and the Bible has NEVER, I repeat, NEVER been proven wrong. The prophecies it contains have all been fulfilled to the tee, with the exception of a few which are specifically stated to occur at the end of all time, which I don't believe has occured yet. Also, the Bible is chock-full of historical facts, people, places, and events unequaled by any other single volume. You can dog the Bible, you can reject the Saviour, and you can defy Christianity, but it is still the only way.

P.S. The Inquisition was the Catholics' (not to be confused with Christians, meaning, "Christ-like") "holy war" against non-Catholics, while the Crusades were the Catholics' (same people) "holy wars" against Muslims. BTW, Jesus never threw anyone off of a rood (whatever the heck that is!), nor did he get mad at a guy for trading, unless you refer to the instance in which he drove the merchants out of the Temple, the House of God! Jesus, a socialist? Please! A fanatic, hardly!

The prophecies in the bible and other holy books, as well as those toted by fortune tellers and horoscopes are designed to be general enough to fit many many situations. It is a skill to write a phrophecy that they reader adds the details to themselves, after which they are so surprised when it comes true. Anyway, not all prophecies in the bible have come true. Finally, if it is all true and God's will, then I am still not going to worship him. Because that would mean God is a homophobic rasist chavunistic moron. Even if he did create me, he is getting none of my damn respect!

George Bush- good response to 9/11
Nazis- Turned Germany into an industrial power, albeit an evil one
KKK- No idea.

Churchill- alcoholic
Lincoln- White supremacist
Jesus- turned children into donkeys
When did he do that? And that roof-tossing incident someone else mentioned, when was that?

Dammit! My bible left out all the good chapters. No wonder I don't believe.

When did he do that? And that roof-tossing incident someone else mentioned, when was that?

Dammit! My bible left out all the good chapters. No wonder I don't believe.The donkeys bit sounds like its from Pinochio...

Ok.

Name some good stuff that
George Bush did
Nazi's did
the K.K.K did

Name some bad stuff that
Churchill did
Lincoln did
Jesus did.


If you can pass all 6 you can have a cookie.

George Bush: The first one... didn't invade Iraq (because he knew it would turn into a nightmare). The second one...

... ... .... the Afghanistan operation made some sense....

Nazi's: The volkswagon beetle? Um... started the German highway system... invented jets, made advances in rocketry.

The KKK: Um.... provide the butt of many jokes. Also, provided a community for Confederate civil war veterans.

Chruchill: Was a total asshole in India.

Lincoln: Suspended constitutional protections.

Jesus: Didn't emphasize the "love your neighbor and treat others as you wish to be treated" message enough for his followers to quite understand it, apparently. This has resulted in centuries of atrocities, as we all know.

What do Hillary and Stalin have in common?

1. Both are ugly
2. Both deceived their nation
3. Both used others as stepping stones to political power
4. Both suck
5. Both killed political enemies
6. Both were unpopular in their own political parties
7. Consumed by greed.
8. Shady relationships
9. Both voted by the populace as "the people who have done the most to destroy" their own nations.
10. Both stood by as others f*cked thier nation with selfish endeavors

Good stuff that...


George Bush did

He has liberalised mining laws in the gulf of Mexico so it is now easier for them to move their ships about whereas previously it took much longer


Nazi's did

Achieved virtually full employment between 1933-39


the K.K.K did

Exposed the Occident to the kinds of racisit horror so that we can now see the light for the dark

I'll work on the bad stuff later.

What do Hillary and Stalin have in common?
That's just a little off topic, hey?

1. Both are ugly
So is GWB.

2. Both deceived their nation
So did GWB.

3. Both used others as stepping stones to political power
So did GWB.

4. Both suck
So does GWB.

5. Both killed political enemies
So did GWB.

6. Both were unpopular in their own political parties
After that Dubai veto thing at the latest, so is GWB.

7. Consumed by greed.
So is GWB - indeed his Vice President even moreso.

8. Shady relationships
So has GWB. Everything there from Abramoff to Ken Lay.

9. Both voted by the populace as "the people who have done the most to destroy" their own nations.
I doubt there ever was such a vote, and I can guarantee you that Stalin would not get that result in Russia. But then, I wouldn't expect you to know anything of modern Russian politics.
Nonetheless, if asked, chances are that GWB would get more votes than Hillary.

10. Both stood by as others f*cked thier nation with selfish endeavors
So has GWB.

So, now I made the response you know would come. What follows? What's your point?

*snip*What do this post and the topic have in common?
Trick question: Nothing. ;-)

The prophecies in the bible and other holy books, as well as those toted by fortune tellers and horoscopes are designed to be general enough to fit many many situations.

Kindly find this easy to fit to any situation

"But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are small among the clans of Judah, out of you will come for me one who will be ruler over Israel, whose origins are from of old, from ancient times." Micah 5:2

This was written several hundrud years before Jesus's birth.

Kindly find this easy to fit to any situation
A clan is of course not the same thing as a city.

And besides, unless you accept that the Bible is unchangable (which is just a little silly, seeing as to how it has been translated into a billion languages plus braille), it is perfectly possible that bits and pieces were changed in the Middle Ages to make things seem more coherent and favourable.

Kindly find this easy to fit to any situation"I see a dark-haired, Spanish-speaking, good-looking man in your future."

Nazi's : Took a ruined German economy.. and rebuild it in record time (never seen that miracle in the World History), made nation an international powerhouse.

Bush Sr: Propped his son career..

Bush Jr: Singlehandedly fumbled the "New American Century" .

K.K.K: hmm.. They promoted the Civil Rights movement?

Churchill: India, and them some.

A clan is of course not the same thing as a city.

And besides, unless you accept that the Bible is unchangable (which is just a little silly, seeing as to how it has been translated into a billion languages plus braille), it is perfectly possible that bits and pieces were changed in the Middle Ages to make things seem more coherent and favourable.

Funny how everything gets blamed on the Middle Ages. Why? Because they were some of the vaguest times in Earth's history. God promised to preserve His Word. No matter how many thousands of Bibles the Catholics burned (still think they're a "sub-group" of Christianity?) from the time of Nero forward, the Bible still lives and continues to make people mad, just as it did when Jesus uttered the words, "No man comes to the Father but by me." You really should understand God, or at least about Him, before you try to accuse Him of being racist and chauvinstic. :confused: Homophobic? A 'phobia' is something you are scared of. Neither God, nor I, am scared of queers. However, God does clearly say homosexuality is an abomination and a sin. Offend you or not, that is the truth.

I find it rather amusing myself when everytime I make a point concerning God, Jesus, and Christianity, all you people do is "laugh" and criticize, but make no attempt to prove what I say is wrong. What I say means nothing, but what the Bible says is the truth, and I give you the Bible.

A clan is of course not the same thing as a city.

Bethelhem was a villiage. Learn your facts.


And besides, unless you accept that the Bible is unchangable (which is just a little silly, seeing as to how it has been translated into a billion languages plus braille), it is perfectly possible that bits and pieces were changed in the Middle Ages to make things seem more coherent and favourable.

The whole "translation of a translation etc" issue of changing is an excageration. There is no diffrence between the Bible being translated than any other historical work. Plus the ESV uses the oldest available records there are so we dont have the whole "copy of a copy etc" problem to worry about.

Homophobic? A 'phobia' is something you are scared of. Neither God, nor I, am scared of queers. However, God does clearly say homosexuality is an abomination and a sin. Offend you or not, that is the truth.

You do not understand, thus you fear. You fear, thus you hate. Don't feel so bad about it. It's an ingrained response in animals to hate what they don't understand as part of their survival instincts.

Humans just realize that there's a lot more that they don't understand. Hardwired responses do the rest.

But by choosing not to rise above these primeval instincts however, no matter how you try to whitewash it with religion, you will never take a step forward. Which is what religion is all about anyway. Stasis. A set of standards that are immovable and immutable.

Stagnancy.

Besides, I find it interesting to find you actually speaking as if you had a telephone with god's number on it. A lot of evangelists think the same way. I just think they like to stoke their egos.

How are you so sure I fear? I AM NOT afraid of anybody, maybe what they can do to me, but not of them. Why would I be afraid of somebody who is so confused about their sexuality that they just turn to the only thing they understand, somebody of like gender? Ooo, sounds scary to me!! But I will admit, I do not understand perversion of any sort; Pedophiles, homos, rapists, and others, including those who have sex with animals. None of it is understandable.

I do, in a sense, have God's phone number. I have the Holy Writ of the Scriptures, called the Bible. Deny till you're blue in the face, but the Bible is the Holy Word of God Almighty. I also have direct access to God's throne room through the avenue of prayer. So, yes, I do have God's phone number. Do I recieve "visions" and "revelations"? No. Does God speak to me through the Holy Spirit Who dwells in my soul after recieving Jesus Christ? Yes. I'm sure you don't understand, because no one truely can until they release thier foolish pride and embrace the Cross of Jesus Christ.

So, if the reason I/we fear is because we do not understand, then the reason you and others hate us must be because you cannot understand.

How are you so sure I fear? I AM NOT afraid of anybody, maybe what they can do to me, but not of them. Why would I be afraid of somebody who is so confused about their sexuality that they just turn to the only thing they understand, somebody of like gender? Ooo, sounds scary to me!! But I will admit, I do not understand perversion of any sort; Pedophiles, homos, rapists, and others, including those who have sex with animals. None of it is understandable.

Now you respond with denials and if I am not mistaken, a bit of anger. And how are you sure they are confused about their sexuality? Perhaps that is the way their tastes run. If everybody had the same tastes, we might as well have been manufactured straight out of a factory on a production line.

As for understanding, have you tried to understand or just go "I don't understand them" and "They're weird". The former takes effort. The latter is the easy way out. And most commonly the one that leads to intolerance. "I don't understand blacks." or "I don't understand heathens" etc, etc.


I do, in a sense, have God's phone number. I have the Holy Writ of the Scriptures, called the Bible. Deny till you're blue in the face, but the Bible is the Holy Word of God Almighty.

The Bible is actually a book, not an audio recording. It was also written by someone a very long time ago who claimed it was the word of a divine entity. It also references someone who claimed to be the son of god (or it claimed he was) who happened to die somewhere over a century earlier.


I also have direct access to God's throne room through the avenue of prayer. So, yes, I do have God's phone number. Do I recieve "visions" and "revelations"? No. Does God speak to me through the Holy Spirit Who dwells in my soul after recieving Jesus Christ? Yes.

Really? How interesting. And what did he say?


I'm sure you don't understand, because no one truely can until they release thier foolish pride and embrace the Cross of Jesus Christ.

Pride runs both ways. Pride in saying "this is the one true way and there is not other" is pride all the same. It means you have closed your mind.


So, if the reason I/we fear is because we do not understand, then the reason you and others hate us must be because you cannot understand.

Hate you? Hardly. You haven't done anything to make me hate you. Perhaps put you a little lower on my scale of respectibility, but that is hardly hate. Hate is an endless spiral from which there is no return.

If you start forcing your beliefs on others or oppressing people who do not agree with you, I may have to, providing it is within my ability, limit your movements/actions. But hate you? Whatever for?

The donkeys bit sounds like its from Pinochio...
Does that mean that religion is a puppet show? ;)

Funny how everything gets blamed on the Middle Ages. Why? Because they were some of the vaguest times in Earth's history. God promised to preserve His Word. No matter how many thousands of Bibles the Catholics burned (still think they're a "sub-group" of Christianity?) from the time of Nero forward, the Bible still lives and continues to make people mad, just as it did when Jesus uttered the words, "No man comes to the Father but by me." You really should understand God, or at least about Him, before you try to accuse Him of being racist and chauvinstic. :confused: Homophobic? A 'phobia' is something you are scared of. Neither God, nor I, am scared of queers. However, God does clearly say homosexuality is an abomination and a sin. Offend you or not, that is the truth.

I find it rather amusing myself when everytime I make a point concerning God, Jesus, and Christianity, all you people do is "laugh" and criticize, but make no attempt to prove what I say is wrong. What I say means nothing, but what the Bible says is the truth, and I give you the Bible.
The only truth revealed by this post is that you believe these things. I think we all accept as a fact that you believe them, and none of us feels any need to try to prove otherwise. We believe that you believe the things you say you believe.

Of course, the fact that you believe them in no way actually proves them to be true in themselves. It is impossible to prove religion to be true because religion is not based on provable evidence. Being proved true is not part of its job. Therefore, there is neither need nor incentive to try to prove or disprove religion.

But you do understand, don't you, that when you present unprovable assertions as if they were facts, there's not a lot people can do with that other than laugh or shrug it off. Do you really think that just telling us that you believe something is going to convince us to believe it too? I'm sorry, but if some people "laugh," it's because that idea is funny. Sad, but funny.

EDIT: Just to stay on topic: Do you understand that, if we did just accept these religious assertions on your say-so, we would be giving up independent critical thought in favor of blind acceptance of propaganda (i.e. your propaganda about the bible)? There's a warning against that among the apostles, isn't there -- Thomas the Doubter?