NationStates Jolt Archive

Sometimes you go to the library and you're shelf reading the biography section and you find a book called "Einstein in Love", and it's just so cute you have to check it out, and then you look him up on Wikipedia too and find out he was born on pi day, 3/14/1879, what an incredible coincidence, as if he wasn't awesome enough already.

Then sometimes someone mentions the Holocaust at dinner, and so you brood over it as you do the dishes and then you go look up Hitler on Wikipedia and see a picture of him as a baby and read all about his life and how he finally got to be the awful person he was until you just can't take anymore and go check your email, only to open a newsletter saying that South Dakota just banned abortion.

Some days, I don't know whether to joyfully praise humanity or lose all faith in it. I really just don't know which is more appropriate.

One can learn a very important lesson from Hitler’s life. Artistic emos are very dangerous, especially when a specific group has been pissing them off their whole lives.

http://mamacass.ucsd.edu/people/pblanco/physics2d/einbike.jpg
Concentrate on the positive. It's much more fun.

http://mamacass.ucsd.edu/people/pblanco/physics2d/einbike.jpg
Concentrate on the positive. It's much more fun.

Aww, that's so cute.:fluffle:

One can learn a very important lesson from Hitler’s life. Artistic emos are very dangerous, especially when a specific group has been pissing them off their whole lives.

What about Beethoven?

Aww, that's so cute.:fluffle:
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/z_Projects_in_progress/050418_Einstein/050405_einstein_tongue.widec.jpg

People are people, and that's about it. When power and leadership on large scale gets involved, things get nasty. Don't lose faith in humanity entirely, but keep in mind that on large scales, men are capable of terrible things. On small scales too, but the men responsible for the most psychotic "evil" and terrible acts [especially on large scale] are the ones at the heads of countries. [at almost any given point in time I'd imagine.] But yeah, then there's the people who are totally awesome, and geniuses and the like. Without contrast, things blur and are impossible to define. Rant rant rant.:headbang: ;)

But was Einstien friends with the Bert family?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v630/harlesburg/HerrBert.jpg

Some days, I don't know whether to joyfully praise humanity or lose all faith in it. I really just don't know which is more appropriate.

Do both. That way you can hate people, but you still have a vent so that you don't brutally murder the first person you see.

Do both. That way you can hate people, but you still have a vent so that you don't brutally murder the first person you see.
But if i took that advice my day would be ruined.

But if i took that advice my day would be ruined.

Why? Do you intend on brutally murdering someone?

Sometimes you go to the library and you're shelf reading the biography section and you find a book called "Einstein in Love", and it's just so cute you have to check it out, and then you look him up on Wikipedia too and find out he was born on pi day, 3/14/1879, what an incredible coincidence, as if he wasn't awesome enough already.

Then sometimes someone mentions the Holocaust at dinner, and so you brood over it as you do the dishes and then you go look up Hitler on Wikipedia and see a picture of him as a baby and read all about his life and how he finally got to be the awful person he was until you just can't take anymore and go check your email, only to open a newsletter saying that South Dakota just banned abortion.

Some days, I don't know whether to joyfully praise humanity or lose all faith in it. I really just don't know which is more appropriate.

How shallow.

Why? Do you intend on brutally murdering someone?
Brutal no, just think of it as freeing up Oxygen for everyone else.
That made nosense....

Some days, I don't know whether to joyfully praise humanity or lose all faith in it. I really just don't know which is more appropriate.
Ever thought of a happy medium?

Brutal no, just think of it as freeing up Oxygen for everyone else. That made nosense....
Pure Oxygen is poisonous. I'm going to go to the bathroom now.

Pure Oxygen is poisonous.
Yeah, that's why they give it to you in hospitals. They are all out there to kill you.

Pure Oxygen is poisonous. I'm going to go to the bathroom now.
Yes it isn't as much fun when one mixes Chloroform and O3 up.Don't crack a rib

Bleh, americans and their odd date system. I'd consider pi day to be 31st of April rather than 14th of March... that's if I even considered it at all. Besides, the whole dating system is arbitary anyway. Argh!

And I've always found Einsteins quote 'God does not play dice' odd. He was refuting his own findings because he simply could not believe that quantum mechanics could only predict probabilities rather than an absolute outcome.

...And I've always found Einsteins quote 'God does not play dice' odd. He was refuting his own findings because he simply could not believe that quantum mechanics could only predict probabilities rather than an absolute outcome.

Yeah, but... he's still better than Hitler. Although, in a fair fight, Baby Hitler would still be a ferocious opponent. If I was Baby Einstein, I'd nuke his Nazi ass.

Bleh, americans and their odd date system. I'd consider pi day to be 31st of April rather than 14th of March... that's if I even considered it at all. Besides, the whole dating system is arbitary anyway. Argh!

And I've always found Einsteins quote 'God does not play dice' odd. He was refuting his own findings because he simply could not believe that quantum mechanics could only predict probabilities rather than an absolute outcome.

I'm no mathematician, but i have to ask.

Can any single discrete outcome in a continuous range of possibilities have a non-zero probability? Or am I in the wrong part of stats? I've recently started looking at very very basic probability-density functions, maybe I'm confusing myself...

As to the dating system being arbitrary, tell me about. My wife says she wants more "date-nights", but when she catches me on a date, she gets mad.

... and find out he was born on pi day, 3/14/1879, what an incredible coincidence, as if he wasn't awesome enough already.
...

Doesn't anybody care that the value of pi is 3.1415926535...? Round that up properly it gives us 3.141593. Using the USA date system that gives us March 14, 1593; using the British system it gives us 31st April, 1593. Either way it would make him over 400 years old. I'm sure someone famous must have been born that day, but it sure wasn't Einstein.

Doesn't anybody care that the value of pi is 3.1415926535...? Round that up properly it gives us 3.141593. Using the USA date system that gives us March 14, 1593; using the British system it gives us 31st April, 1593. Either way it would make him over 400 years old. I'm sure someone famous must have been born that day, but it sure wasn't Einstein.

Georges de la Tour .

Doesn't anybody care that the value of pi is 3.1415926535...? Round that up properly it gives us 3.141593. Using the USA date system that gives us March 14, 1593; using the British system it gives us 31st April, 1593. Either way it would make him over 400 years old. I'm sure someone famous must have been born that day, but it sure wasn't Einstein.

I find your argument irrational.

See, because,-yeah, okay, yeah, so, you get it.

No, I guess its not really funny.

Fine. I don't have to impress you #$%*ing people.

I'm no mathematician, but i have to ask.

Can any single discrete outcome in a continuous range of possibilities have a non-zero probability? Or am I in the wrong part of stats? I've recently started looking at very very basic probability-density functions, maybe I'm confusing myself...

As to the dating system being arbitrary, tell me about. My wife says she wants more "date-nights", but when she catches me on a date, she gets mad.I'm not sure. I'm not really a mathematician. Or at least I haven't been for many years. Maths is so easy to forget.

I was trying to talk about the uncertainty principle. I often get it confused with the observer effect. But I snatched this from wikithe Heisenberg uncertainty principle states that one cannot assign, with full precision, values for certain pairs of observable variables, including the position and momentum, of a single particle at the same time even in theory. It furthermore precisely quantifies the imprecision by providing a lower bound (greater than zero) for the product of the standard deviations of the measurementsWhich is opposed to classical physics in which we can precisely know all of these variables.

Dating system... heh... :D

Gartref: Then you wouldn't be Einstein as he was a pacifist. If I were Einstein I'd play the violin in such a way to make Hitler's brain explode, and then go back to playing good violin music.

Georges de la Tour .


Why, thanks, Gartref! I owe you a cup of good coffee or tea -- precious currency in my mental landscape.

I find your argument irrational.

See, because,-yeah, okay, yeah, so, you get it.

No, I guess its not really funny.

Fine. I don't have to impress you #$%*ing people.


Actually, I did find it funny, but I'm like that. I make that sort of joke myself. Impressed? Well, that's a little harder. But I did smile.
:D
See?

Doesn't anybody care that the value of pi is 3.1415926535...? Round that up properly it gives us 3.141593. Using the USA date system that gives us March 14, 1593; using the British system it gives us 31st April, 1593. Either way it would make him over 400 years old. I'm sure someone famous must have been born that day, but it sure wasn't Einstein.
No, no one gives actually a damn for this braindead maths crap :sniper:

Doesn't anybody care that the value of pi is 3.1415926535...? Round that up properly it gives us 3.141593. Using the USA date system that gives us March 14, 1593; using the British system it gives us 31st April, 1593. Either way it would make him over 400 years old. I'm sure someone famous must have been born that day, but it sure wasn't Einstein.


Okay! I can't stand this anymore! Hasn't anybody noticed there's no such date as April 31st? In this case the US system is the only one that gives a date on the real calendar.

My parents always said my sense of humour was too obscure...

Yeah, that's why they give it to you in hospitals. They are all out there to kill you.
*sigh* Yeah, well, suck on pure oxygen for a day and get back to me. Actually, don't. Or do. No. No, don't. Really.

Some days, I don't know whether to joyfully praise humanity or lose all faith in it. I really just don't know which is more appropriate.

All humans are Morons! Put you faith in them and they will dissappoint you almost everytime.

Okay! I can't stand this anymore! Hasn't anybody noticed there's no such date as April 31st? In this case the US system is the only one that gives a date on the real calendar.

My parents always said my sense of humour was too obscure...Well I got in there with April 31st. I probably should have realised, my birthday being just two days off the last day of April, but I didn't... the year's too irregular. *petitions for a switch to the lunar calender*

So technically you could have 3rd of Janurary 4159 (BC/AD) or 415 (BC/AD).

Well I got in there with April 31st. I probably should have realised, my birthday being just two days off the last day of April, but I didn't... the year's too irregular. *petitions for a switch to the lunar calender*

So technically you could have 3rd of Janurary 4159 (BC/AD) or 415 (BC/AD).


In the old days, some programming and many/most database programmes required the format yyyy-mm-dd. of course, that makes problems with the "mm" with its value <12 and the "dd" with a value <31 (or 30 or 28, depending on the value for "mm"), but I guess we just have to skip the first "m" or first "d" in certain instances.

Hmm, I wish I could hang around to see who's born on 3141 May 9, but I see from my diary I'm booked to be away that whole day.

...Gartref: Then you wouldn't be Einstein as he was a pacifist.

Einstein became a pacifist in his late twenties. As an infant, Albert was a human wrecking machine. Of course, both Hitler and Einstein would have been bested by "Pi-Boy, Georges de la Tour, who was born weighing fourteen pounds 11 ounces with a full head of hair and the disposition of a wounded badger.

Interesting. A sissy French painter is the toughest man who ever lived because of the Americans and their odd dating system. Because according to the British he's just a sissy French painter.

Interesting. A sissy French painter is the toughest man who ever lived because of the Americans and their odd dating system. Because according to the British he's just a sissy French painter.

Are you reading a different thread? [a] Nobody said he was tough, just that he happened to be born on a certain date and no one found any other famous historical born on the same date. [b] If you'd read the whole thread, you'd have noted that the British date system gives a non-existent date.

Take a slow, deep breath ... now let it out gently ... better?

One can learn a very important lesson from Hitler’s life. Artistic emos are very dangerous, especially when a specific group has been pissing them off their whole lives.
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What about Beethoven?
You could have probably calmed him down by giving him some doggy snacks.

You could have probably calmed him down by giving him some doggy snacks.
Or doggy style... what everyone was thinking it.http://70.85.81.229/3630/189/emo/Burning.gif

I think Einstein and Hitler show us that Germans can be the best and worst people. :)

*cough*more best*cough*

They show man's duel nature best.

One's a genius and the other is a drug addict/madman. Maybe it is better to say what constitutes crossing the line...

I'm no mathematician, but i have to ask.

Can any single discrete outcome in a continuous range of possibilities have a non-zero probability? Or am I in the wrong part of stats? I've recently started looking at very very basic probability-density functions, maybe I'm confusing myself...

In general, the probability of choosing a single point out of a probability distribution is zero. What a probability distribution tells you is if you look at the "area under part of the curve" i.e., a definite integral of part of the distribution, the probability of chossing something in that interval is equal to that area *.

In order for a probability distribution to result in a non-zero probability for a single point, you would either have to have a discrete set of outcomes (in which case integrals don't make a whole lot of sense), or the distribution would have to have an infinite value at that point **.




* This only works for probability distributions, i.e., functions mapping some set to the non-negative real numbers, for whom, the integral over the entire set (in the limit) approaches 1.

** An example of such a "function" is the "delta function", which is defined as follows:

d(x) = 0 if x is not 0
d(x) is infinite if x = 0

So that the definite integral of d(x) on (a,b) is:

1 if a < 0 < b,
-1 if b < 0 < a
0 otherwise

Note that we still can't talk about the integral at a single point (in this case, zero), but we can say that if we look at an arbitrarily small interval around zero, the integral limits to 1.

This concludes our random math(s) lesson of the day. Tune in next week when I explain why 0.99999999... and 1.000000000... are the same number.

muh

Are you reading a different thread? [a] Nobody said he was tough, just that he happened to be born on a certain date and no one found any other famous historical born on the same date. [b] If you'd read the whole thread, you'd have noted that the British date system gives a non-existent date.

Take a slow, deep breath ... now let it out gently ... better?[a]Yes they did... Kinda. They asserted that he was PI-Man instead of Einstein. The OP said that Einstein was even more awesome because he was he was the PI-Man.

And I did understand that the 31st of April does not exist. In fact I replied to one of your posts saying that I didn't intially realise, but had read your post and now realised. Perhaps it's not me who should be told to read the whole thread? ;) The deep breathing should really help. If it doesn't then maybe you could think of waves breaking on a beach as well...

[a]Yes they did... Kinda. They asserted that he was PI-Man instead of Einstein. The OP said that Einstein was even more awesome because he was he was the PI-Man.

And I did understand that the 31st of April does not exist. In fact I replied to one of your posts saying that I didn't intially realise, but had read your post and now realised. Perhaps it's not me who should be told to read the whole thread? ;) The deep breathing should really help. If it doesn't then maybe you could think of waves breaking on a beach as well...


Hmm, I think we're talking at crossed porpoises here.

I was responding to your post which said
Interesting. A sissy French painter is the toughest man who ever lived because of the Americans and their odd dating system. Because according to the British he's just a sissy French painter.

My points were:
[1] Of course Einstein couldn't be PI-man. He was born the wrong year -- the wrong century, in fact -- as I pointed out in a previous post. That "sissy French painter" (I'll resist the urge to say, "is there any other kind of French pai-" Oops!) is the only famous person turned up by anybody for that date in 1593 (yes, using the American system, because as I've already said, the British system gives a non-existent date). THEREFORE, it's not "because of the Americans" -- in this case, their system is the only one that gives us any date at all that corresponds to the rounded value of PI. According to the British dating system he's non-existent.

I knew you'd replied but I have to admit it didn't seem to fit with what you said in that last post.

But all that was merely "en passant" -- to include those "sissy French" in this conversation. :p

[2] My main point was your phrase "the toughest man who ever lived". I figured either that you meant that as in "tough guy", something that nobody said and something that has nothing to do with the value of PI that I can see, or else that you meant "tough" in a way I haven't heard since the '60s and that I didn't know all many people used even when it was current. So, perhaps I should have asked you what you meant?

Mmmmm ... waves ... deep breathing in time with the breaking of the waves ... feels so good ...

... you should try it.