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Drug Question????

Slackeravia 2
07-03-2006, 04:03
can ibuprofen get you high?
Smunkeeville
07-03-2006, 04:06
I don't think so, but if you take too much it can kill you. ;) so, you know take as directed. Even taking a little too much over a long period of time (like 3 pills instead of 2) can ruin your internal organs.

Over the counter drugs are just as dangerous as prescriptions, so don't screw around.
The Sutured Psyche
07-03-2006, 04:08
can ibuprofen get you high?

Yeah, try about four bottles and a 750 of the cheapest vodka you can find, tool.

Disclaimer: Death is the ultimate trip.

Further disclaimer: yeah, that'll kill ya.
Vittos Ordination2
07-03-2006, 04:09
I would suspect that it would just knock you out. I don't know of any euphoria that comes with it.
THE LOST PLANET
07-03-2006, 04:13
Uh, .... No.

Well, maybe in a high enough dose .... one that nobody's ever been able to achieve ...


because they died first.
Unogal
07-03-2006, 04:14
No. If you overdose you'll just poo alot.

I can'tm imagine how you could consume enough ibprofen to die from it. You'd just be pooing it out as you ate it. Its a very benine painkiller.
Mentholyptus
07-03-2006, 04:14
Well, if you try to swallow one and it gets lodged in your trachea, you could probably get fuzzy vision and lightheadedness from anoxia...


Other than that, I know of no way to take ibuprofen that will have psychoactive effects. Don't try to get high off of OTC drugs, kids. The psychoactive dose and the lethal dose are very close together, and it would be very dumb to get killed because you wanted to get a buzz off of your Benadryl.
Smunkeeville
07-03-2006, 04:17
No. If you overdose you'll just poo alot.

I can'tm imagine how you could consume enough ibprofen to die from it. You'd just be pooing it out as you ate it. Its a very benine painkiller.
really? because when I was 15 I took about 40 of them and the said my kidneys were shutting down because of it, although I don't remember much inbetween taking them and getting my stomache pumped.
THE LOST PLANET
07-03-2006, 04:18
Well, if you try to swallow one and it gets lodged in your trachea, you could probably get fuzzy vision and lightheadedness from anoxia...


Other than that, I know of no way to take ibuprofen that will have psychoactive effects. Don't try to get high off of OTC drugs, kids. The psychoactive dose and the lethal dose are very close together, and it would be very dumb to get killed because you wanted to get a buzz off of your Benadryl.Listen to him kids, never try to get high from over the counter medications.



If you want to get high see the dealer on the corner.
CSW
07-03-2006, 04:27
Well, if you try to swallow one and it gets lodged in your trachea, you could probably get fuzzy vision and lightheadedness from anoxia...


Other than that, I know of no way to take ibuprofen that will have psychoactive effects. Don't try to get high off of OTC drugs, kids. The psychoactive dose and the lethal dose are very close together, and it would be very dumb to get killed because you wanted to get a buzz off of your Benadryl.
DXM won't kill you, it's the other stuff in there that will.
Mentholyptus
07-03-2006, 04:35
DXM won't kill you, it's the other stuff in there that will.


Really? Wiki tells me that the lethal dose is about 2000mg for a normal sized person, and that the so-called "fourth plateau" dose where the psychoactive effects are really pronounced isn't much below that...

There have been several dextromethorphan overdose deaths documented in medical and media reports. Even when used alone, dextromethorphan overdoses have been fatal. Lethal toxicity starts at around 20mg/kg (about 2000mg for a 220lb person). This is not much above typical fourth plateau doses,

I have no experience with DXM, so I could just be talking out my ass here, but that seems like a legitimate concern...
Dancing Tree Dwellers
07-03-2006, 04:54
can ibuprofen get you high?

Rule of thumb is if you can buy OTC then you can pretty much be assured you can't use the drug to get high. It pisses me off that the powers-that-be are constantly deciding what we can and can't do with substances provided by the planet. This is our world to share and to do as we see fit, is my logic, irrespective of possible harms we may cause ourselves. But no, 'you can do this; you can't do that!', bloody ridiculous! So, anything purchasable without prescription tends to either be non-'abusable' or mixed with poisons to disuade.
Undelia
07-03-2006, 04:57
lol at this thread
Smunkeeville
07-03-2006, 04:59
Rule of thumb is if you can buy OTC then you can pretty much be assured you can't use the drug to get high.

that's not technically true, although I am afraid that if I explain why I will get in trouble.
Dancing Tree Dwellers
07-03-2006, 05:01
that's not technically true, although I am afraid that if I explain why I will get in trouble.

I did say rule of thumb didn't I. Yep, there are some abusable OTC preparations but largely, the good stuff is kept out the way of nutters like us ;)
Discendenza
07-03-2006, 05:07
just take a whooooooole lot of them and then tell us what happens...if we don't hear back from you we can assume that your little druggie ass is dead....:D
Greater Gekkonidae
07-03-2006, 05:16
Supposedly, since it's a blood thinner, if you overdose on it you bleed out of your pores until you die.
Dancing Tree Dwellers
07-03-2006, 05:18
Supposedly, since it's a blood thinner, if you overdose on it you bleed out of your pores until you die.

It looks as though we have a pharmacology specialist in da house
AllCoolNamesAreTaken
07-03-2006, 07:54
can ibuprofen get you high?

No, it cannot. It chemically cannot bind to opiod receptors in the brain, nor can it cause nerve transmission interruption, or any of the other things that can get you "high".

And Ibuprofen is a NSAID, not a blood thinner. Ok, kids time for your chemistry lesson.

It's like this (sorry if my spelling is terrible)-

NSAID (Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drug)- Ibuprofen (Advil), Naproxin Sodium (Aleve), etc. These drugs relieve pain by reducing inflammation. This allows blood to flow easier and relieves pressure. Pressure on nerves = pain. Exceeding the recommended dose a lot, or prolonged use will cause kidney damage. An overdose of an NSAID will cause severe kidney damage, possible kidney failure, and death. Even if you take enough to kill an elephant (which will of course kill you) it will NEVER get you high.

Asprin- Bayer, etc. This drug relieves pain by increasing blood flow by 1) relaxing constricted blood vessels, and 2) by thinning the blood. Better blood flow and relaxed vessels relieves pain because- Constricted blood vessels puts pressure on nerve endings. And pressure on nerves = pain. Extended use of asprin will cause stomach upset, and in excess can cause ulcers and intestinal bleeding. An overdose of asprin could thin the blood enough so that insufficient oxygen gets to the brain and cause brain damage, and could also damage the blood vessels enough to cause severe internal hemmoraging. Either case could potentially be fatal. In theory it could get you high, but you'd have to take enough to kill you first. However, it is sometimes combined with narcotics which will work for getting high. In general, if it ends in an or in and is a pain killer, it is a narcotic blended with asprin. (Vicodin, Percodan) Oxycontin however, does not. It is a time released version of the straight narcotic, without an additive. It is just a name brand that used a familiar sounding term.

Acetominaphen- Tylenol. This drug relieves pain by raising the pain threshold. It acts on the nerves transmission of pain- the nerve still sends the same amount of "pain" signal, but the brain doesn't get the message as well, so it takes more "pain signal" to cause increased pain. Extended use or exceeding recommended dosage will cause liver damage. Overdose may cause liver failure, and DEATH. Combining with alcohol will cause liver damage. And yes, that includes taking it for a hangover. Every pain killer is bad when you are hungover, but this is the worst. It also, cannot ever get you high. However, it is the most common otc drug to be combined with a narcotic to make a pain killer. If it is a pain killer and ends with et, then it most likely contains acetominaphen. Examples are Percocet and Lorcet (also known as Lortab).

No, I am not a doctor or pharmacist. I have Crohn's Disease and am on pain killers for life, so my GI specialist sat me down and had a lengthy conversation with me about different pain meds, and why I can't some and stuff. If you want to know anything else, just ask. This is all from memory though so you might want to read a book or something if you're really that worried about it.

Supposedly, since it's a blood thinner, if you overdose on it you bleed out of your pores until you die.

This is the most retarded thing I have ever heard. I'm sorry, but "wrong" just doesn't cover it in this case.
Sarkhaan
07-03-2006, 08:01
ibuprofen causes stomach bleeding and kidney failure. It will never get you high as it has no psychoactive ingredients. What it will do if you take too much is give you extreme stomach pain, vomiting, coma, and/or death.
Sarkhaan
07-03-2006, 08:03
No. If you overdose you'll just poo alot.

I can'tm imagine how you could consume enough ibprofen to die from it. You'd just be pooing it out as you ate it. Its a very benine painkiller.
untrue. It is actually very harsh. All of the OTC painkillers are harsh on the system...Ibuprofen on the stomach, tylenol on the liver, etc.
New Granada
07-03-2006, 08:05
It cannot be used as a recreational drug because it has no pleasant effects, and is fatal in high doses.
Texoma Land
07-03-2006, 08:51
No, it cannot. It chemically cannot bind to opiod receptors in the brain, nor can it cause nerve transmission interruption, or any of the other things that can get you "high".

And Ibuprofen is a NSAID, not a blood thinner. Ok, kids time for your chemistry lesson.

It's like this (sorry if my spelling is terrible)-

NSAID (Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drug)- Ibuprofen (Advil), Naproxin Sodium (Aleve), etc. These drugs relieve pain by reducing inflammation. This allows blood to flow easier and relieves pressure. Pressure on nerves = pain. Exceeding the recommended dose a lot, or prolonged use will cause kidney damage. An overdose of an NSAID will cause severe kidney damage, possible kidney failure, and death. Even if you take enough to kill an elephant (which will of course kill you) it will NEVER get you high.

Asprin- Bayer, etc. This drug relieves pain by increasing blood flow by 1) relaxing constricted blood vessels, and 2) by thinning the blood. Better blood flow and relaxed vessels relieves pain because- Constricted blood vessels puts pressure on nerve endings. And pressure on nerves = pain. Extended use of asprin will cause stomach upset, and in excess can cause ulcers and intestinal bleeding. An overdose of asprin could thin the blood enough so that insufficient oxygen gets to the brain and cause brain damage, and could also damage the blood vessels enough to cause severe internal hemmoraging. Either case could potentially be fatal. In theory it could get you high, but you'd have to take enough to kill you first. However, it is sometimes combined with narcotics which will work for getting high. In general, if it ends in an or in and is a pain killer, it is a narcotic blended with asprin. (Vicodin, Percodan) Oxycontin however, does not. It is a time released version of the straight narcotic, without an additive. It is just a name brand that used a familiar sounding term.

Acetominaphen- Tylenol. This drug relieves pain by raising the pain threshold. It acts on the nerves transmission of pain- the nerve still sends the same amount of "pain" signal, but the brain doesn't get the message as well, so it takes more "pain signal" to cause increased pain. Extended use or exceeding recommended dosage will cause liver damage. Overdose may cause liver failure, and DEATH. Combining with alcohol will cause liver damage. And yes, that includes taking it for a hangover. Every pain killer is bad when you are hungover, but this is the worst. It also, cannot ever get you high. However, it is the most common otc drug to be combined with a narcotic to make a pain killer. If it is a pain killer and ends with et, then it most likely contains acetominaphen. Examples are Percocet and Lorcet (also known as Lortab).

No, I am not a doctor or pharmacist. I have Crohn's Disease and am on pain killers for life, so my GI specialist sat me down and had a lengthy conversation with me about different pain meds, and why I can't some and stuff. If you want to know anything else, just ask. This is all from memory though so you might want to read a book or something if you're really that worried about it.



This is the most retarded thing I have ever heard. I'm sorry, but "wrong" just doesn't cover it in this case.


From one person in pain management to another (severe spinal cord injury here), very good info. However, you did get one small thing wrong. Vicoden is a combination of acetominaphen and hydrocodine, not asprin and hydrocodine. My doc used to have me on Vicoporfen (ibuprofen and hydrocodine) instead of Vicodin because of the problems associated with acetominaphen. He has on something quite a bit stronger now that isn't mixed with anything. Though I do still take asprin.

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Greater Gekkonidae
07-03-2006, 09:56
Just doing my part to spread an urban legend.
*salutes AllCoolNamesAreTaken*
Thanks for spoiling my fun.
Dancing Tree Dwellers
07-03-2006, 11:13
Aspirin thins blood to the point that the brain is starved of oxygen!? :eek:

Aspirin is an NSAID like ibuprofen and I suggest you seek further info from doctors and/or reputable internet sites because there is a lot of conjecture in here!
Soviet Haaregrad
07-03-2006, 11:16
snip

I'm actually disappointed I didn't get to post something like that first. :(

can ibuprofen get you high?

No, luckily man has marijuana, which can get you high without killing you.