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Visitation from Osama bin Laden's worst Nightmare!

Syniks
07-03-2006, 03:09
http://visitshoremagazine.com/shorelines_20questions.php

Irshad Manji is too cool, and totally on the mark.

Although many disapproving Muslims have engaged in thoughtful, substantive debate with me, they're far outnumbered by those who would rather shut me up altogether. I regularly receive threats through my website. Some of my would-be assassins emphasize the virtues of martyrdom, wanting to hurl me into the "flames of hell" in exchange for seventy-two virgins. Others simply want to know which plane I'm next boarding so they can hijack it. Somehow, I don't feel the urge to share my schedule. A few threats have been up close and personal.

A lot of cute police officers and detectives have interviewed me about the death threats I receive. But I don't think that's where you're going with the question. In the Netherlands, I was interviewed by Ayaan Hirsi Ali, the Somali-born member of Parliament who lives with four bodyguards thanks to her own vocal criticism of Islam. Even though she has left Islam and I've kept the faith, we're both marked women. The newspaper figured it would be interesting for us to swap recipes and security tips-heretic to heretic.

When did you start spiking your hair like that? When I realized that my role model is Lisa Simpson. It's not just her hair; it's her approach to changing the world. She asks for forgiveness, not for permission. That's a beautiful balance of action with compassion. Mind you, it won't win everyone over. A Muslim man angrily wrote to me: "Irshad Manji, you lie so much that even your hair stands up in protest!"

Irshad Manji's best-selling book, The Trouble With Islam Today: A Muslim's Call for Reform in Her Faith, is one of the most readable, reasonable, fascinating descriptions of Islam-past, present and hopefully, future-on the market. A former student-body president and television host, she has published and spoken all over the world-to Muslims and non-Muslims alike. Her book has been published in twenty-five countries, including Pakistan, India, Turkey and Lebanon. In those countries that have banned The Trouble with Islam Today, she is reaching readers by posting free translations in Arabic, Persian and Urdu on her website (www.muslim-refusenik.com).
A pixie Martin Luther, she's banging on the walls of Internet mosques, demanding introspection, extro-spection, confrontation-nothing less than Reformation, Renaissance, and a total feminist upheaval that would compel all Muslims to take responsibility for their teachings, question the veracity of interpretations of their Holy Book, and denounce the actions of those who take their religion's name in vain. And she wants them to do it now. Right now.

A brilliant, forceful, feminist, Egyptian-South-Asian-Ugandan-Canadian, spiky-haired, lesbian, Muslim woman, she is on a self-appointed mission to reform the faith espoused by more than a billion people in the world (of whom, she notes, only 20 percent are Arab-and of those, she humbly suggests, there are a few that might just deserve the "h" word).

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Go read the article.

http://visitshoremagazine.com/shorelines_20questions.php

If you are anywhere near the Southern shore of Lake Michigan, go see her. Irshad Manji is coming to Michigan City to speak on March 12th. Sponsored by the Sinai Forum, an organization which has been bringing national and international authors, politicians, media stars and scientists to Northwest Indiana for more than 50 years, she will speak at the Elston Middle School, 317 Detroit Street, Michigan City, beginning promptly at 7:30 p.m. Tickets may be purchased at the Michigan City Public Library and from Kabelin Hardware, 512 Andrew Avenue in LaPorte.
Syniks
07-03-2006, 15:48
Silence is golden?
Jello Biafra
07-03-2006, 15:57
She sounds awesome.
DHomme
07-03-2006, 15:58
Whats the "h" word?
Syniks
07-03-2006, 15:59
She sounds awesome.
If anyone else from NSG intends to attend, TG me for instructions for the after-event Meet & Greet party.
Syniks
07-03-2006, 16:00
Whats the "h" word?
Read the article. It explains. But essentially "hate".
Fass
07-03-2006, 16:00
Silence is golden?

There is nothing to discuss in your spammish plug for this woman's website and book and speech. You'd think she'd have her own PR people...
Syniks
07-03-2006, 16:17
There is nothing to discuss in your spammish plug for this woman's website and book and speech. You'd think she'd have her own PR people...
Actually, the website is for a local magazine's interview with her. I didn't know anything about her until I read the article... and I try to keep abreast of the "Moderate Muslim"/"Muslim Reform" movement.

Here is a Canadian Muslim Woman actively espousing an Anti-Jihaad, Pro Woman, Pro Spirituality vision of Islam, and yet, you say Meh.

But if I had posted somthing about Jihaad Apologists, or Muslim Terrorisim you would be one of the first to chastize me and tell me to "look at all the peaceful Muslims".

The double standard is amazing.
Lunatic Goofballs
07-03-2006, 16:49
Heresy makes me happy. :)
Syniks
07-03-2006, 17:38
Heresy makes me happy. :)
One Man's heresy is another (wo)man's Liberation.
Fass
07-03-2006, 18:47
Actually, the website is for a local magazine's interview with her. I didn't know anything about her until I read the article... and I try to keep abreast of the "Moderate Muslim"/"Muslim Reform" movement.

Here is a Canadian Muslim Woman actively espousing an Anti-Jihaad, Pro Woman, Pro Spirituality vision of Islam, and yet, you say Meh.

But if I had posted somthing about Jihaad Apologists, or Muslim Terrorisim you would be one of the first to chastize me and tell me to "look at all the peaceful Muslims".

The double standard is amazing.

You have provided nothing to discuss. No comment of your own. All you have provided is a link to an article and plugged her book and website. You have not contributed anything that can be discussed - your own opinion, namely. So, call it a double standard if you wish - you obviously haven't seen me object to when others have spammed in a similar fashion.
Gauthier
07-03-2006, 19:01
Frankly Islam (and perhaps Judaism) is long overdue for a Reformation/CounterReformation movement to shake up its embedded power structure.
Syniks
07-03-2006, 19:49
You have provided nothing to discuss. No comment of your own. All you have provided is a link to an article and plugged her book and website. You have not contributed anything that can be discussed - your own opinion, namely.

Hmm. I began the post by saying

http://visitshoremagazine.com/shorel...0questions.php

Irshad Manji is too cool, and totally on the mark.

That is my opinion of her, based upon the interview in the linked article. I am waiting for a copy of her book in order to form a concrete opinion. However, since her presentation is this coming Sunday, I thought it would be a good idea to let Southern Lake Michigan NSers know.
imported_Kalessin
07-03-2006, 21:46
Frankly Islam (and perhaps Judaism) is long overdue for a Reformation/CounterReformation movement to shake up its embedded power structure.

Already happened with Judaism - 3 times in the UK alone (Masorti, Reform and Liberal have all split from Orthodox practice). Amazing thing is though, all the Jewish sects manage to avoid calling each other names - like 'heretic', and merely agree to disagree, while still accepting each other's Jewishness. All very civilised - but then, the bulk of the differences are as regards practice, rather than belief.

'course re: Islam, one has to tentatively ask whether it can be successfully 'reformed' in line with our Western values without becoming a completely different religion. i.e. can it be reformed, without being destroyed? Are the problems which have become highlighted over the last few years due merely to interpretation, or are they actually an integral part of the religion?
Syniks
07-03-2006, 21:53
'course re: Islam, one has to tentatively ask whether it can be successfully 'reformed' in line with our Western values without becoming a completely different religion. i.e. can it be reformed, without being destroyed? Are the problems which have become highlighted over the last few years due merely to interpretation, or are they actually an integral part of the religion?
Which is what I gather Ms. Manji is going to talk about.
Von Witzleben
07-03-2006, 21:57
The link to the website doesn't work.
Syniks
07-03-2006, 22:02
The link to the website doesn't work.
Does here... I cleared my Cache & Offline files before checking too.

Here is the non-tagged URL. Cut & Paste.

visitshoremagazine.com/shorelines_20questions.php
The Lone Alliance
08-03-2006, 00:09
That's so cool. Seriously she's just badass for challenging the maniacs.
Syniks
08-03-2006, 00:20
That's so cool. Seriously she's just badass for challenging the maniacs.
And a babe ta boot!

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y180/MrMisanthrope/600_Manji.jpg

But seriously - as a Lesbian, and looking like that, it's no wonder she calls the Hijab a "body bag for live women".