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This is a thread for all those who have someone the love utterly, but either cannot tell the person, have been rejected or otherstuff etc.

I know a girl, far from perfect, but I love her so bitterly that whenever I see her I hit myself. Its like when she smiles, and I'm around I can jump like 20 ft. But I could never, ever tell her how I feel. Infact, Im not even sure Id want a relationship with her greater than like holidng her hand. Its been like this for like 4 years. I even went out with another girl since Ive known her. And it eats me up every hour of every day

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i understand you very good....

I have loved someone more than anything in the world but I thought that the other person feels that same way. But..............

Hello,
Why can't you just tell her? Who knows, she may feel the same way you do and may be just to shy to tell you..or maybe to scared that you may reject her.
Even if she goes out with other people..you never know

I love someone, but i can not show it.
I would seperate the whole family.
But I am also not sure if she loves me

Y'know I really feel out of place here...

I don't think I actually love someone in the way that you guys are talking about or ever have. I like guys and I love a lot of people (including guys) in a completely non romantic way, but I don't love anyone in a romantic way...

Y'know I really feel out of place here...

I don't think I actually love someone in the way that you guys are talking about or ever have. I like guys and I love a lot of people (including guys) in a completely non romantic way, but I don't love anyone in a romantic way...

Well you're missing out on one of the better feelings the human body has to offer.

Well you're missing out on one of the better feelings the human body has to offer.

Hey, CC... I'm just bout to go offline...

Hey, CC... I'm just bout to go offline...

Ok. Have a nice evening. I'll see you tomorrow.

I'm not sure if I can differentiate idle lust and love at this stage, so i'm not sure if I can relate.

I'm not sure if I can differentiate idle lust and love at this stage, so i'm not sure if I can relate.

It helps if you have an actual definition for love. Analysis becomes much easier.;)

I love someone who I know doesn't love me.

I love someone who I know doesn't love me.

:eek: define Love !!!!

I love someone who I know doesn't love me.

You should find something else for your life to be centered on then. Like mathematics.;)

You should find something else for your life to be centered on then. Like mathematics.;)
its what i told her since 2 yeras ;)

:eek: define Love !!!!

Deeply caring about the person, wanting to see him happy, feeling sad if he's sad and trying to make him feel better. Worrying about his worries, being happy about every single word from him, taking pride in his achievements.
Constantly having him on your mind, or in the back of your mind, hoping he's happy.

You should find something else for your life to be centered on then. Like mathematics.;)

I'm lousy at mathematics....
And even though this person doesn't love me, contact with him still makes me happy.

Tell her how you feel. The worst reaction she might have would probably be less painful and certainly more fleeting than what you put youself through now.

I'm lousy at mathematics....

All the more reason to study it.

All the more reason to study it.

*lol
Let me put it this way : The person who doesn't love me still gives me more than mathematics ever could.

*lol
Let me put it this way : The person who doesn't love me still gives me more than mathematics ever could.

I see.

I love two people. Both of whom dont love me. I love someone none of you would know, and like every other jolter I love Cabra West... 8>)

Im so very, very lonely... 8>(

Double post?? what double post?? *Jedi mind wipe*

I love two people. Both of whom dont love me. I love someone none of you would know, and like every other jolter I love Cabra West... 8>)

:fluffle:
If only that were all Cabra West needed.... ;)

All the really cool girls I know, all are all married, or soon will be.
Wich isnt surprising, since girls like that are rare.
Ive never really been in love with any of them, but its not hard to see why anyone would be.

:fluffle:
If only that were all Cabra West needed.... ;)


Love is nice, but a right good stuffing might be what the doctor ordered.

I'm not sure if I can differentiate idle lust and love at this stage, so i'm not sure if I can relate.
i know that feeling, it's happened to me not just once. let's hope nobody figures out who it is i'm referring to, though. that would be not quite so good :D

Love is nice, but a right good stuffing might be what the doctor ordered.

The doctor would order both, I guess.

The doctor would order both, I guess.


"If you cant be with the one you love, honey, love the one with your with."
-some song I cant remember.

This is a thread for all those who have someone the love utterly, but either cannot tell the person, have been rejected or otherstuff etc.

I know a girl, far from perfect, but I love her so bitterly that whenever I see her I hit myself. Its like when she smiles, and I'm around I can jump like 20 ft. But I could never, ever tell her how I feel. Infact, Im not even sure Id want a relationship with her greater than like holidng her hand. Its been like this for like 4 years. I even went out with another girl since Ive known her. And it eats me up every hour of every day

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You can't go on like this. If your love for her won't die, then you must tell her. If she doesn't feel the same way, just remember that it's better to regret something you did than something you didn't do. If she feels the same way, it's the most wonderful thing in the world.

Y'know I really feel out of place here...

I don't think I actually love someone in the way that you guys are talking about or ever have. I like guys and I love a lot of people (including guys) in a completely non romantic way, but I don't love anyone in a romantic way...
There's nothing unusual about that. You haven't met someone compatible. You can't be madly in love with just anyone.

I'm lousy at mathematics....

I suggest art!

I'm lousy at mathematics....



I suggest art!


Mathematics is a form of art.

My first love was unrequited. Boy, was that a waste of 4 years of my life. The other unrequited loves I've had probably weren't loves and instead just strong crushes, but that first one was definitely love.

"If you cant be with the one you love, honey, love the one with your with."
What if you find yourself in a cell with a guy with snake tatoos on his face?

I love someone, but i can not show it.
I would seperate the whole family.
But I am also not sure if she loves me

is this someone like a first cousin who being with would be problematical in any family or someone like a jewish girl who is only a problem for YOUR family?

it makes little sense to live for the family who doesnt live for you. they would survive you taking up with someone they dont like. if its not otherwise shockingly beyond the mores of society (dont take up with the neighbors irish setter) you should do what makes you happy.

is this someone like a first cousin who being with would be problematical in any family or someone like a jewish girl who is only a problem for YOUR family?

it makes little sense to live for the family who doesnt live for you. they would survive you taking up with someone they dont like. if its not otherwise shockingly beyond the mores of society (dont take up with the neighbors irish setter) you should do what makes you happy.

funny you asked it that way, its the cousin of my wife...she is nearly 18 years younger, the day i have married my wife she was a child and so there was no reason to look at her. now she is 25 and a very beautiful women , But she does not know what i feel for her...its better for all...except for me

:(

funny you asked it that way, its the cousin of my wife...she is nearly 18 years younger, the day i have married my wife she was a child and so there was no reason to look at her. now she is 25 and a very beautiful women , But she does not know what i feel for her...its better for all...except for me

:(

:eek: yikes! why do I feel like I've stumbled upon an episode of melrose place?

I think I may be in love, I dont wanna talk about it though

funny you asked it that way, its the cousin of my wife...she is nearly 18 years younger, the day i have married my wife she was a child and so there was no reason to look at her. now she is 25 and a very beautiful women , But she does not know what i feel for her...its better for all...except for me

:(
ahhhh that IS a problem.

since you have an obsession with another woman you might want to sneak off to a marriage councillor to get help with finding out what you should do. (sneak, as in not let your wife know so you can speak frankly without hurting her)

ahhhh that IS a problem.

since you have an obsession with another woman you might want to sneak off to a marriage councillor to get help with finding out what you should do. (sneak, as in not let your wife know so you can speak frankly without hurting her)
I am long enough in that situation to know how to handle it :p

:headbang: I know exaxtly how you feel. i have this friend that i am really falling for, but he has a GF, and i know he will never feel the same way as me.

Mathematics is a form of art.

So, I should forget that I love, that I have a heart, that I can feel, and just focus on painting?

i know that feeling, it's happened to me not just once. let's hope nobody figures out who it is i'm referring to, though. that would be not quite so good :D

Heh, another NSer?

Heh, another NSer?

Everybody is an NSer... eventually. *nods

So, I should forget that I love, that I have a heart, that I can feel, and just focus on painting?

Yes, that is what CC is recommending... but I disagree...

Love is more important than Maths...

*sneaks off before someone starts to argue*

I've given up on love a long time ago.

*deep dramatic sigh*

This is a thread for all those who have someone the love utterly, but either cannot tell the person, have been rejected or otherstuff etc.

I know a girl, far from perfect, but I love her so bitterly that whenever I see her I hit myself. Its like when she smiles, and I'm around I can jump like 20 ft. But I could never, ever tell her how I feel. Infact, Im not even sure Id want a relationship with her greater than like holidng her hand. Its been like this for like 4 years. I even went out with another girl since Ive known her. And it eats me up every hour of every day

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Damn emos.

All you really want to do is bang this chick. That's all the first stages of love are anyway. If you ever get her in the sack, societal expectations may force you to stay with her and your mind will make you think that you’re in love to keep you from going insane. To be frank, "love" as we understand it does not exist. It is merely a combination of hormones and subconscious justifications for the behavior and thoughts that result from those hormones.

You should totally go for it, unless you're ugly in which case you should probably give up. You know what will make you feel better than all this love shit these emos are spouting? Bang her, maker her think you love her and then do something awful, you know, like cheat on her, get "caught" and then tell her that she just wasn't good looking enough for you or smart enough or whatever will casue the most damage, whatever she is most sensitive about. The feeling of bringing that pain to somebody else is wonderful.

Everyone’s got their own way of dealing with dating. Personally, I don’t think it’s very healthy to get obsessed with a woman you haven’t even said anything about it to. No good comes of it. If you do ask her out the very last thing you should mention is that you’ve been in love with her from the moment you laid eyes on her. Unless of course it’s your intention to end things with a wild stare and a restraining order.

The best way is to make yourself attractive to others is to first improve yourself. Involvement in the community, better physique, better social skills, or whatever it is that makes you attractive to whoever you are seeking to go out with. Find out what her interests are, but if they really don’t interest you at all, don’t be a fake and pretend to like them or you’ll end up listening to music you hate for as long as you’re together.

Confidence will take you a long way. Most women like a guy to have a bit of confidence and self-esteem. Fortune often favours the bold (or gets you laughed at by your friends when you get shot down in flames). Still, it’s better to go out trying than just yearning without effect. All that talk about love will just magically find you when you don’t try is a bad plan.

I’ve never actually ever asked anyone out on a date or to go out with me. I might ask someone to go out for coffee or to make them dinner or whatever, but never directly come out and ask someone to go out. Ask a woman about things that interest her and listen. Don’t spend all your time talking about yourself; talking about ex-girlfriends; or looking at other women. Women give off visual clues that they are interested (although some are just complete flirts and give the same signals to the 50 year old mailman). Hair tossing, exposing the neck, eye contact, smiling, and lots of other signals denote interest. In fact some of the women you might have been ignoring in favour of the unattainable might have been sending these signals to you.

Damn emos.

All you really want to do is bang this chick. That's all the first stages of love are anyway. If you ever get her in the sack, societal expectations may force you to stay with her and your mind will make you think that you’re in love to keep you from going insane. To be frank, "love" as we understand it does not exist. It is merely a combination of hormones and subconscious justifications for the behavior and thoughts that result from those hormones.

Can't argue against that.

Right now I'm on levying a butterface siuation.

So, I should forget that I love, that I have a heart, that I can feel, and just focus on painting?
not forget the love. Nothing fuels art quite like unrequited love. Except gasoline.

*strikes match*
:eek:

I'm not sure if I can differentiate idle lust and love at this stage, so i'm not sure if I can relate.
there's a difference?:confused:

there's a difference?:confused:
Lust is fun, but love will fucking pwn you.

I thought I had a love that was for real once...hell I know it was. Couldn't really say why it ended.

I always wanted her to be happy, and I know that she has happiness in her life...

...it just sucks that I'm not a part of it. :(

I thought I had a love that was for real once...hell I know it was. Couldn't really say why it ended.

I always wanted her to be happy, and I know that she has happiness in her life...

...it just sucks that I'm not a part of it. :(

I was in the same boat you're in. However, right now my boat is filled with many new "friends" and I'm sailing much smoother.

Lust is fun, but love will fucking pwn you.
how about love combined with lust? Are they as mutually exclusive as people seem to think they are?

how about love combined with lust? Are they as mutually exclusive as people seem to think they are?
Of course they aren't mutually exclusive. People justify their lust with love all the damn time. Fucking prudes.

i thought i was in love with this girl at school once - and my love was unrequited (and i was too shy to do anything about it)

i have since found that it wasn't love. i mean, i hardly knew anything about the girl but i was convinced i 'loved' her. for years i thought that was the case. so, i thought i knew what love was until i met amy :fluffle:

not forget the love. Nothing fuels art quite like unrequited love. Except gasoline.

*strikes match*
:eek:

All artists must suffer to be great, eh?

All artists must suffer to be great, eh?
only one way to find out.
Cabra, we need you to cut off your ear.
*passes knife*
all the cool artists are doing it;)

only one way to find out.
Cabra, we need you to cut off your ear.
*passes knife*
all the cool artists are doing it;)

Meh... not extreme enough...

i thought i was in love with this girl at school once - and my love was unrequited (and i was too shy to do anything about it)

i have since found that it wasn't love. i mean, i hardly knew anything about the girl but i was convinced i 'loved' her. for years i thought that was the case. so, i thought i knew what love was until i met amy :fluffle:
I'm calling it now. Atleast 100 brownie points for that.

Would it be bad if I start living vicariously through you two? Considering I just spent the night with the ex and her new bf, I think it might be a better alternative (although, I did get to drop the "yeah, I taught her that" line. if you all understand what it was refering to, I think you will understand my satisfaction)

Meh... not extreme enough...
huh...left tit seems a bit extreme. Maybe a toe? How about the little one. that one just seems to scream out "angst"

huh...left tit seems a bit extreme. Maybe a toe? How about the little one. that one just seems to scream out "angst"

I was going to say "My throat, maybe"... don't tempt me ;)
I think I'll get some fresh air...

I'm calling it now. Atleast 100 brownie points for that.

Would it be bad if I start living vicariously through you two? Considering I just spent the night with the ex and her new bf, I think it might be a better alternative (although, I did get to drop the "yeah, I taught her that" line. if you all understand what it was refering to, I think you will understand my satisfaction)
:fluffle:

That just means we'll have to be extra exciting for there be enough life for you to live through!
*realises that makes no sense*
Hey - Huw's gonna be here in a few hours! I'm too happy to think straight! :p :D

i thought i was in love with this girl at school once - and my love was unrequited (and i was too shy to do anything about it)

i have since found that it wasn't love. i mean, i hardly knew anything about the girl but i was convinced i 'loved' her. for years i thought that was the case. so, i thought i knew what love was until i met amy :fluffle:
:fluffle: :)
It really is strange how similar we are, in that I can say the exact same thing. I thought I loved someone and it hurt so badly when it was unrequited and it totally screwed up my friendship with them, trying to stay close to them but dealing with feeling everything more strongly than they did.
Anyway, before I go on a ramble, basically, I feel the same way - whatever that was, it wasn't love. I did care about them but... it was just nothing like this. There are no doubts in my mind for my feelings for you, and each cheesy cliche seems to ring true! You do mean everything to me and nothing matters more to me/makes me happier than being able to help you and bring you the happiness and strength and hope that you bring me. I never want to lose the incredible relationship we have, and there's so much in my life and future that I want to share with you. No-one makes me feel as full of life or confident or comfortable with myself as you do, and nothing feels more right than just being with you :fluffle:
If this isn't love, I sure as hell don't know what is!

edit: And I've inserted some happy, soppy, lovelydovey ranting into another thread full of bitterness and hurt! *chalks one up*
edit2: btw, Me and Huw are showing hope for all those people who haven't found love yet or want to move on from unrequited feelings and find happiness *nods*

I don't know if at my age I can be sure of love, with hormonal inbalances etc it could be anything. However I do know that I have in the past met the perfect girl. Two of them in fact, identical twins. Smart, funny, ludicrously attractive, they were fantastic. However of couse when I knew them well I wasn't interested in that sort of thing. Over the years we kinda drifted apart... Last I saw them was over a year ago, at a sort of garden party at their house to celabrate something. That was when I realised how damn hot they were. But still drifting occured and I havn't seen them since. I'm wondering wether to get back in contact with them, not sure if it would work though :(

I was going to say "My throat, maybe"... don't tempt me ;)
I think I'll get some fresh air...
*sigh* I would miss you too much. Go get some air. Fluffles will be waiting for you when you return:fluffle: :fluffle:
The offer of someone to listen still stands...please, feel free whenever you need.



That just means we'll have to be extra exciting for there be enough life for you to live through!
*realises that makes no sense*
Hey - Huw's gonna be here in a few hours! I'm too happy to think straight!
it may or may not be sad how happy you two make me. Gives me a bit of hope, both for myself and humanity in general.
And I expect a full (okay, maybe full would be a bit too graphic for my virgin eyes;) ha...virgin eyes. thats a joke.) report of this date. I wish you both the best!

I don't know if at my age I can be sure of love, with hormonal inbalances etc it could be anything. However I do know that I have in the past met the perfect girl. Two of them in fact, identical twins. Smart, funny, ludicrously attractive, they were fantastic. However of couse when I knew them well I wasn't interested in that sort of thing. Over the years we kinda drifted apart... Last I saw them was over a year ago, at a sort of garden party at their house to celabrate something. That was when I realised how damn hot they were. But still drifting occured and I havn't seen them since. I'm wondering wether to get back in contact with them, not sure if it would work though :(
out of curiosity, how old are ya?
It sounds like these two girls could at the very least be some good friends. Give them a call.

Cabra, going back a few pages, what exactly IS it Cabra West needs??

Cabra, going back a few pages, what exactly IS it Cabra West needs??

The ability to turn time back to two years ago?
That, or being loved and desired by a certain person.

damn... Well... Thats two girls I love and have no hope with.

I love Rebecca!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!
yes, yes I can. Sorry about that.

damn... Well... Thats two girls I love and have no hope with.

I love Rebecca!*snip !'s*
could you please go back and atleast put line breaks into that? It's messing up the page...

it may or may not be sad how happy you two make me. Gives me a bit of hope, both for myself and humanity in general.
And I expect a full (okay, maybe full would be a bit too graphic for my virgin eyes;) ha...virgin eyes. thats a joke.) report of this date. I wish you both the best!
Me and Huw are bitterness-busters! Cynicism-crushers! Doubt-diminshers!
We harrass people with happiness and overload them with optimism!
Hurrah alliteration!
Anyhoo.... why would it be sad to be made happy by seeing two people wonderfully happy for the first time in their lives? :fluffle:

:fluffle: :D
(damn - I keep typing the fluffle emoticon as :fluffl cos that's what we've made it on msn....)
Are you sure? Apart from it corrupting your obviously pure soul (ha), it also could involve such things as nose-fetishs, the nickname "sugarmunchkin" and much fun involving maltesers - all of which have perfectly sane and logical explanations to them, of course *cough*, but which may lead you to wrongly assuming a slight randomness and craziness....

You do know you have many to catch up on? IIRC (my memories have blurred into a big ball of wonderfulness) this will be our 7th date *nods* (Pretty good going in under a month and with over an hours drive between us). Each one's been utterly fantastic :) :fluffle:

Me and Huw are bitterness-busters! Cynicism-crushers! Doubt-diminshers!
We harrass people with happiness and overload them with optimism!
Hurrah alliteration!
Anyhoo.... why would it be sad to be made happy by seeing two people wonderfully happy for the first time in their lives? :fluffle:

:fluffle: :D
(damn - I keep typing the fluffle emoticon as :fluffl cos that's what we've made it on msn....)
Are you sure? Apart from it corrupting your obviously pure soul (ha), it also could involve such things as nose-fetishs, the nickname "sugarmunchkin" and much fun involving maltesers - all of which have perfectly sane and logical explanations to them, of course *cough*, but which may lead you to wrongly assuming a slight randomness and craziness....

You do know you have many to catch up on? IIRC (my memories have blurred into a big ball of wonderfulness) this will be our 7th date *nods* (Pretty good going in under a month and with over an hours drive between us). Each one's been utterly fantastic :) :fluffle:
haha...you just love alliteration, don't you? And when you put it like that, no, I can't see it as sad. which ironically makes me bitter. HA! I WIN!

and my soul is pure. purely corrupted, but pure none the less;)
And I would be highly disappointed if you and PM wern't random and crazy. This coming from the guy who had an ex nickname his...er..."unit" Stanley...nothing is weird to me any more.
and I thought this was maybe the 5th! Man, am I behind. This better not be like the soaps where if I miss one, then I might as well skip the whole damn season. Not that I watch soaps, mind you...
:fluffle:

damn... Well... Thats two girls I love and have no hope with.

I love Rebecca!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!
yes, yes I can. Sorry about that.

*lol

Trust me, you don't love me.

haha...you just love alliteration, don't you? And when you put it like that, no, I can't see it as sad. which ironically makes me bitter. HA! I WIN!

and my soul is pure. purely corrupted, but pure none the less;)

I'm pretty sure a great numer of NSers feel more or less the same way as you... incredibly happy for the two of them, and yet bitter. Hard to explain, really...

*snip*
yes, yes I can. Sorry about that.
Thank you muchly!:fluffle:

and Cabra...your real name is Rebecca? hmm...

me gusta.
Again with the spanish...

I'm pretty sure a great numer of NSers feel more or less the same way as you... incredibly happy for the two of them, and yet bitter. Hard to explain, really...
I guess it is best to put it that I couldn't be happier for them, but at the same time, I wish I had it for myself...
And I hear birds chirping. and just giggled at the typo "numer"

heh heh...numer.

...methinks I need sleep.

Thank you muchly!:fluffle:

and Cabra...your real name is Rebecca? hmm...

me gusta.
Again with the spanish...

*lol
No, sorry, it's not. I just assumed I was the second girl he was talking about...

*lol
No, sorry, it's not. I just assumed I was the second girl he was talking about...
haha...*sigh* only you cabra...only you.:fluffle:

haha...*sigh* only you cabra...only you.:fluffle:

:fluffle:
Not to worry. Being number two is something I can live with, no problem ;)

Well, you were... I know I dont love you though...

But I love her with all my soul. everytime I see her its just like :headbang:

haha...you just love alliteration, don't you? And when you put it like that, no, I can't see it as sad. which ironically makes me bitter. HA! I WIN!

and my soul is pure. purely corrupted, but pure none the less;)
And I would be highly disappointed if you and PM wern't random and crazy. This coming from the guy who had an ex nickname his...er..."unit" Stanley...nothing is weird to me any more.
and I thought this was maybe the 5th! Man, am I behind. This better not be like the soaps where if I miss one, then I might as well skip the whole damn season. Not that I watch soaps, mind you...
:fluffle:
I'm Amazing Alliterating Amy! :P
Damn you! Oh, I'll get to you in the end... when you least expect it... BAM! You'll be all loved-up and bubbling over with cheesy cliches *nods* And now, when that happens, you can thank me because you now know I'll be the cause behind it all ;)

There's not one part of you uncorrupted?! But that just takes the fun out of it! :p Means no-one can rejoice in corrupting you more, and you don't get any pleasure from becoming even more corrupt.... *ponders*....

What - you don't want to know any of the stories? Not even how such a cool couple as us now use the nickname sugarmunchkin?
And yes, we even have our own category of weirdness - AHW *nods*

*is a proud non-soap watcher* so, you know, I wouldn't be able to answer your question... but if you can just go along with the weird, random things that pop up, you'll be fine, I'm sure :P
and 5th?! You didn't expect us, the loved-up couple of NS, to have met as much as possible?!

I'm pretty sure a great numer of NSers feel more or less the same way as you... incredibly happy for the two of them, and yet bitter. Hard to explain, really...

I guess it is best to put it that I couldn't be happier for them, but at the same time, I wish I had it for myself...

:fluffle: :fluffle: for you both...
I can understand that - I think the large majority of people feel like that a lot of the time. All I can say is that I felt like that and truly never believed I'd ever be happy or find someone who loved me.... and look where I am now. I've come from your situation (in a very loose way - our situations differ greatly) of feeling bitter towards people who are happy, to now being the one people can feel bitter towards.
There's always hope because there are infinite paths your life could take :fluffle:
Either one of you, I am a good listener and I can cut out the overly-cheerful attitude on request :fluffle:

There's this soccer chick in one of my classes...asked her to homecoming and used the excuse "Lemme just check if I have a game/practice." She then says she has practice but later contradicted herself by saying she just stayed home the night of hometime. I called her contradiction and she gave me a serious 'grrr' look.....

Sadly I have now lost interest in her.

The ability to turn time back to two years ago?
That, or being loved and desired by a certain person.

And what would you change then? :eek:
Doesn´t it count, that everybody on NS loves you??? :fluffle:
and do you think eveything could be better, if you were at the right place last year?

Me and Huw are bitterness-busters! Cynicism-crushers! Doubt-diminshers!
We harrass people with happiness and overload them with optimism!
Hurrah alliteration!
Anyhoo.... why would it be sad to be made happy by seeing two people wonderfully happy for the first time in their lives? :fluffle:

:fluffle: :D
(damn - I keep typing the fluffle emoticon as :fluffl cos that's what we've made it on msn....)
Are you sure? Apart from it corrupting your obviously pure soul (ha), it also could involve such things as nose-fetishs, the nickname "sugarmunchkin" and much fun involving maltesers - all of which have perfectly sane and logical explanations to them, of course *cough*, but which may lead you to wrongly assuming a slight randomness and craziness....

You do know you have many to catch up on? IIRC (my memories have blurred into a big ball of wonderfulness) this will be our 7th date *nods* (Pretty good going in under a month and with over an hours drive between us). Each one's been utterly fantastic :) :fluffle:

And what, may I ask, is wrong with randomness and craziness?

Randomness, is, IMHO, ub3r...

EDIT: yes, I'm also personally guilty of loving somebody that's probably unrequited. To most it would seem to be just a very, very strong crush, but the essence of what Cabra said is how I feel about her. I'm quite happy to let it go because I don't think it'd work (I love her personality, but there's some things that would just cause too many problems).

And what would you change then? :eek:
Doesn´t it count, that everybody on NS loves you??? :fluffle:
and do you think eveything could be better, if you were at the right place last year?

Me? I can't change a thing, it would seem.
I think you know what I was talking about, I was asked what Cabra West would need to be happy.
It's not possible to go back there, all I can do is go on. But it's always sad to lose something you cherished.

i do not believe that you have lost someone ...
I am still here ;)

LOL...

Love is an overrated "emotion" caused by synapsis in the brain firing to lead someone to feel an attraction for someone. Nothing more.

Tired of feeling like you've lost out on love, then quit pining over it and move on. You'd be surprised how easy it is to get over feeling like that.


Not that I havent experienced it, in fact, there's a certain woman out there that I got to talk to this morning for the first time in a couple weeks that I would do anything for. And I most definately enjoy that feeling, but that doesnt mean one should dwell on it. Life continues wether or not you've got that feeling.

i loved someone and i was rejected. thats all i will say...

:(

I'm Amazing Alliterating Amy! :P
Damn you! Oh, I'll get to you in the end... when you least expect it... BAM! You'll be all loved-up and bubbling over with cheesy cliches *nods* And now, when that happens, you can thank me because you now know I'll be the cause behind it all ;)

There's not one part of you uncorrupted?! But that just takes the fun out of it! :p Means no-one can rejoice in corrupting you more, and you don't get any pleasure from becoming even more corrupt.... *ponders*....

What - you don't want to know any of the stories? Not even how such a cool couple as us now use the nickname sugarmunchkin?
And yes, we even have our own category of weirdness - AHW *nods*

*is a proud non-soap watcher* so, you know, I wouldn't be able to answer your question... but if you can just go along with the weird, random things that pop up, you'll be fine, I'm sure :P
and 5th?! You didn't expect us, the loved-up couple of NS, to have met as much as possible?!
one day, 10 years from now, I'll be proposing to my future wife, pause, and scream "Damn you Amy". Then run out of the room with my pants on fire. I'm not sure why my pants will be on fire, but they will be. *nod*
And I get pleeenty of pleasure corrupting other people. I also have a fondness for puppies. Shhh.
haha..I'll expect some TG'd reports. No need to share the stories with all the wandering, miserable and out-of-love members of NSGen

I'd say that worse than either of these things is loving somebody with your entire being, and you're with them and they say they love you, but there's a catch. They abuse you, emotionally and/or physically, or they're an alcoholic, or have developed a mental disease, or got in a car crash and now their personality is different from a brain injury.

I know they say that it should be easy to just leave, but imagine the person you love so much and you can't tell them or whatever, and instead you're in a situation like this with them. Do you leave? That means you have to be the one to turn your back on the one person you love more than anything in the world. Do you stay? It means you have to live with the one person you love more than anything in this world, but sometimes they become a stranger to you and harm you.

I think that is the worst thing that can happen to love as we know it.

I love a lot of people, but in the sort of sense implied by agape-love*. I appreciate sexuality, of course, but I don't have any plans for persuing it further right now...whether that is a mistake or not I'm not sure, but it seems like a good idea at this time. :D


* Agapē (in Greek written αγάπη; pronounced "ah-GAH-peh" or "AH-gah-peh") is the Greek word for divine, unconditional, self-sacrificing love. Greek philosophers at the time of Plato used it in a way that suggested a universal, as opposed a personal, love; this could mean love of truth, or love of humanity. ...

one day, 10 years from now, I'll be proposing to my future wife, pause, and scream "Damn you Amy". Then run out of the room with my pants on fire. I'm not sure why my pants will be on fire, but they will be. *nod*
And I get pleeenty of pleasure corrupting other people. I also have a fondness for puppies. Shhh.
haha..I'll expect some TG'd reports. No need to share the stories with all the wandering, miserable and out-of-love members of NSGen
Do you mean literally on fire, or do you mean "on fire"? Cos if you mean "on fire" and it's your future wife, you should be thanking me *nods* :P
Yeah, but other people lose that pleasure! *steals as blackmail material* mwahahahaha
He's here right now, commenting on how crazy this conversation is turning :P
and now we'll go back to the bed... for cuddling and watching the film on his laptop dammit!! *adjusts halo again*

Do you mean literally on fire, or do you mean "on fire"? Cos if you mean "on fire" and it's your future wife, you should be thanking me *nods* :P
Yeah, but other people lose that pleasure! *steals as blackmail material* mwahahahaha
He's here right now, commenting on how crazy this conversation is turning :P
and now we'll go back to the bed... for cuddling and watching the film on his laptop dammit!! *adjusts halo again*

The "film on his laptop", eh? Promising ;)

Do you mean literally on fire, or do you mean "on fire"? Cos if you mean "on fire" and it's your future wife, you should be thanking me *nods* :P
Yeah, but other people lose that pleasure! *steals as blackmail material* mwahahahaha
He's here right now, commenting on how crazy this conversation is turning :P
and now we'll go back to the bed... for cuddling and watching the film on his laptop dammit!! *adjusts halo again*
haha...no, I mean literally on fire. Like, flames and heat and smoke...:p
I'm a special boy.
And would this be a film that your parents would aprove of, young lady?
By the way, it looks like your halo has split and drifted back a bit...look a bit like horns if you ask me...

I had a serious crush on a guy at school who was 2 years older than me. He was so cool, he had bleached punky hair, wore bondage trousers was such a reble. Total adoration, lust, everything. Never told anyone, just worshipped from afar. I'm sure if I'd have dated him it would have shattered all my illusions and I'm sure he would never have dated me which would have shattered all my dreams. So there's a lot to be said for unrequited love ;)

Shakespeare said "It's better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all"
I'm not sure I agree with him, though. The worst thing in life is losing love.

Shakespeare said "It's better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all"
I'm not sure I agree with him, though. The worst thing in life is losing love.
ah, but you'll generally be stronger for the experience, so long as you don't let it blacken your heart.
damnit, am I starting to show myself for the helpless romantic I am?
*punts kitten just to save face*

haha...no, I mean literally on fire. Like, flames and heat and smoke...:p
I'm a special boy.
And would this be a film that your parents would aprove of, young lady?
By the way, it looks like your halo has split and drifted back a bit...look a bit like horns if you ask me...
I see... You know, we could continue this route of conversation but do you really want to be thinking about flames and heat in that area? :P
No-one's denying that....
It was Blue Brothers! And I could, of course, tell you the full plot of it if you asked.. *cough*.... *runs away*
Well, ask Huw - he was in a good position to get a good view *nods* (of the halo!! *sigh* you people and your dirty minds... :rolleyes: :p )

Shakespeare said "It's better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all"
I'm not sure I agree with him, though. The worst thing in life is losing love.
I'd rather have the good and the bad than neither.
Generally, people who can feel sadness intensely also have the ability to feel happiness just as intensely.
All the happiness I have now wouldn't feel as strong and wouldn't be as wonderful or valued as much, without the sadness beforehand.
I'm not in any way playing down how much hurt there can be. But I still maintain that life is worth it, incredible hurt and all, for the wonderously good parts of it.

Me and Huw are bitterness-busters! Cynicism-crushers! Doubt-diminshers!
We harrass people with happiness and overload them with optimism!
Hurrah alliteration!

hehe this made me laugh :p


Each one's been utterly fantastic :) :fluffle:

and this i can totally agree with :fluffle: :)

All I can say is that I felt like that and truly never believed I'd ever be happy or find someone who loved me.... and look where I am now. I've come from your situation (in a very loose way - our situations differ greatly) of feeling bitter towards people who are happy, to now being the one people can feel bitter towards.
yup :fluffle:
i could probably say more but driving tires me out. bah!


And I would be highly disappointed if you and PM wern't random and crazy.
oh we are... we are indeed... i think far more crazy IRL than on here tbh :P



It was Blue Brothers! And I could, of course, tell you the full plot of it if you asked.. *cough*.... *runs away*

i'm sure you can recant the first half hour, right? you know, the bit when you were actually facing the screen and i still had my glasses on...
whats this about a halo?... ;)

Well, ask Huw - he was in a good position to get a good view *nods* (of the halo!! *sigh* you people and your dirty minds... :rolleyes: :p )
*shiftyeyes* ;)
i will say nothing more...*cough* :P

ah, but you'll generally be stronger for the experience, so long as you don't let it blacken your heart.
damnit, am I starting to show myself for the helpless romantic I am?
*punts kitten just to save face*

So, basically, I'll most likely end up this incredibly strong, and incredibly lonely person?
Take a puppy, will you, I can't stand it when people hurt cats ;)

i think that the word love is used to often and has therefore lost its meaning.

i think that the word love is used to often and has therefore lost its meaning.

I don't know about you, but I'm using it in one relationship only....

hehe this made me laugh :p
and this i can totally agree with :fluffle:
made me laugh writing it :p
and good :) :fluffle:

i could probably say more but driving tires me out. bah!
you still do know how much i appreciate all the driving? :fluffle: :fluffle:

oh we are... we are indeed... i think far more crazy IRL than on here tbh :P
Hahahaha, I think that's for certain :P :D

i'm sure you can recant the first half hour, right? you know, the bit when you were actually facing the screen and i still had my glasses on...
whats this about a halo?...
For a while it was all innocent... I was just stroking your face and distracting you from the pain in your back and gazing at you... then the pain went and, uh, that's about the time my halo started to flicker out... :P

*shiftyeyes* ;)
i will say nothing more...*cough* :P
hehehe ;)
i bet we sound far worse than we are :P ... oh well! :P

Hahahaha, I think that's for certain :P :D
hehe i don't think they can even begin to contemplate the levels of weird randomness... :D
i love it! :P

For a while it was all innocent... I was just stroking your face and distracting you from the pain in your back and gazing at you... then the pain went and, uh, that's about the time my halo started to flicker out... :P
mmmm *remembers*
*wants to be back there!*


i bet we sound far worse than we are :P ... oh well! :P
lol! damn right we do... got a reputation to upkeep, right? or at least, a halo to "polish" ;) :P

I loved my ex girlfriend with all my heart - I know that much, and when she dumped me I was crushed. Didn't feel happy at all for more than, say, an hour at a time for more than three months. However, I'm starting to feel a better now. I can actually go for almost a day without thinking wistfully of her. I think it may be due to this new girl I met who is very attractive, funny, great to be with etc. Who knows? I could grow to love her, but I'd like to be sure that she loved me a bit too, and besides that I'm feeling a little... cautious about love these days.

I'd say that worse than either of these things is loving somebody with your entire being, and you're with them and they say they love you, but there's a catch. They abuse you, emotionally and/or physically, or they're an alcoholic, or have developed a mental disease, or got in a car crash and now their personality is different from a brain injury.

I know they say that it should be easy to just leave, but imagine the person you love so much and you can't tell them or whatever, and instead you're in a situation like this with them. Do you leave? That means you have to be the one to turn your back on the one person you love more than anything in the world. Do you stay? It means you have to live with the one person you love more than anything in this world, but sometimes they become a stranger to you and harm you.

I think that is the worst thing that can happen to love as we know it.


Yeah escpecially the brain injury one. That would be so horrible I don't even want to imagine it. I'd like to believe that I would stay, but it would hurt so so much. (...This is a purely hypothetical situation in which one of the main people is make believe as I don't believe that I am in love...)

That would be one of the hardest decisions you could ever make :(

My first real "love" went unrequited. It also blinded my objective reasoning for a while. That is, until I realised that she was making excuses to avoid commitment and actually going out with other people when my back was proverbially turned, and I had to ask myself: Is this really the person you want to spend the rest of your life with? That mostly clinched it, and since then I've been a good deal more selective in relationships. I've thus been plagued with fewer regrets than many people.

<snip>Undelia, how old are you? I'm going to guess at 16-17 years old, or thereabouts, because I felt the same way at the time, partly out of bitterness at the example described above, partly out of anger directed at society in general... Now that I have the gift of hindsight, I can fully understand the situation: due to basic insecurity that I was unworthy of being loved, or otherwise not "good enough" for the rest of the world, I consoled myself by claiming that love does not exist, all people are shallow, greedy hypocrites, and so on. I'm guessing that either you have been rejected before in particularly painful ways, or you simply haven't experienced even a portion of the true feelings of love; thus, to conceal your insecurity you cause pain to others, pettishly trying to force others to feel your pain. Either way, I sincerely doubt you'll be spouting the same rhetoric in three or four years.

No offence intended with any of this, by the way. I may be going out on a limb, but I think I understand how you feel.