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Edit:

Read a couple of statements:

Gay pride march?
Where's my straight pride march? Or would that not be 'politically correct'? Are only gays aloud to be proud?

Black TV?
Where's my White TV? Or would that not be 'politically correct'? Is it only racist if it discriminates against blacks?

End of statements

Kids, it's time for a quick lesson: inclusive vs exclusive

In a school, a lunch time activity for computer programmers is opened, the intention is to include the computer programmers as they are the minority and not to exclude those who aren't computer programmers as they are the majority.

At the same school, another activity is started, this one for those who aren't computer programmers, the intention here is not to include those who aren't computer programmers as they are the majority, the intention is to exclude the computer programmers as they are the minority (and possibly ugly geeks).

I have just demonstrated why those two statements are moronic

So next time anyone brings up these frankly idiotic points up again, beat them roud the head for me, ok? cheers

Hopefully this is now clear. ok :)

...BET sucks though. I'm allowed to say that and stuff.

Gay pride march?
Where's my straight pride march? Or would that not be 'politically correct'? Are only gays aloud to be proud?
Personally, I am gay and I am not at all supportive of the pride parades. I sometimes think they do us more damage than good.

Black TV?
Where's my White TV? Or would that not be 'politically correct'? Is it only racist if it discriminates against blacks?

Agreed.

...BET sucks though. I'm allowed to say that and stuff.

Yeah if you were smart you'd avoid "black TV" like the plague.

A point made by The Boondocks on last week's episode :D

White TV would be boring.

This reminds me of my theory that femonists are actually sexists.;)

I totally agree it seems that politicly correct stuff is a one way kinda deal....it should be abolished

I totally agree it seems that politicly correct stuff is a one way kinda deal....it should be abolished
Agreed.

Yeah if you were smart you'd avoid "black TV" like the plague.

A point made by The Boondocks on last week's episode :D
I know I came into this thread for something...

This reminds me of my theory that femonists are actually sexists.;)
agreed

White TV would be boring.
Nah, it would have things like My Name is Earl and Curb your Enthusiasm. :)

I agree.

I was tired of being politically correct a long time ago, so I think it's all silly.

Personally, I am gay and I am not at all supportive of the pride parades. I sometimes think they do us more damage than good.


Agreed.

I know that is the majority opinion of the people I know. There is very strong evidence that the east/west coastal opinion that any publicity is good publicity does not consider the inevitable backlash assoiciated with the continual "in your face" militant attitude.
This is not limited to the gay agenda though. Many groups have seen the same backlash after they push farther than the general population is prepared to tolerate. It has happened to many movements that cannot accurately guage how far they can push before being pushed back.

I know that is the majority opinion of the people I know. There is very strong evidence that the east/west coastal opinion that any publicity is good publicity does not consider the inevitable backlash assoiciated with the continual "in your face" militant attitude.
This is not limited to the gay agenda though. Many groups have seen the same backlash after they push farther than the general population is prepared to tolerate. It has happened to many movements that cannot accurately guage how far they can push before being pushed back.
Indeed. Achieving change by showing how homosexuality can be integrated with societal "norms" would be far more productive than these pride parades. Social and biological science is making leaps and bounds in this area, yet not enough attention is paid to it. The pride parades do not encourage people to inform themselves more fully; they merely encourage more bias.

White Entertainment Television would be "W.E.T." [ nods ] :D

I know I came into this thread for something...

Speaking of which, Friday Night Fix is on baby!

Ever seen BYU TV? That's the white television channel.

...BET sucks though. I'm allowed to say that and stuff.
The NAACP sucks too, boycotting SC just because we have a Confederate flag on statehouse grounds!! its our frikin heritage goddamit where the NAAWP?????????????:headbang: :headbang:

[QUOTE=Greater londres]xenophobes, bigots and other narrow minded fools

i'm glad you realize what you are

The NAACP sucks too, boycotting SC just because we have a Confederate flag on statehouse grounds!! its our frikin heritage goddamit where the NAAWP?????????????:headbang: :headbang:

SC? How many things could that stand for? Let's check:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SC

....Anyways, I believe my point was, what does SC stand for?

xenophobes, bigots and other narrow minded fools

i'm glad you realize what you are
He isn't one himself. Although he may seem an idiot, he has some meritorious points.

This reminds me of my theory that femonists are actually sexists.;)

Theory? I thought that was a proven fact...

Theory? I thought that was a proven fact...
Depends on if the feminist advocates female supremacism or genderial equality.

Depends on if the feminist advocates female supremacism or genderial equality.

They can pull their own chairs out from now on! *wave flag*

They can pull their own chairs out from now on! *wave flag*
My darker side is a female supremacist, even if I'm gay :eek:

By the way, many women do that now anyway. :p Out of courtesy though I still treat them with avant-garde respect.

My darker side is a female supremacist, even if I'm gay :eek:

By the way, many women do that now anyway. :p Out of courtesy though I still treat them with avant-garde respect.

Well....yeah.....Really only done anymore to impress the women, which is why I'd like to argue that they're already equal, if not supreme. We need that 30% more in pay to afford those roses we hope will increase our slim chances.

Well....yeah.....Really only done anymore to impress the women, which is why I'd like to argue that they're already equal, if not supreme. We need that 30% more in pay to afford those roses we hope will increase our slim chances.
And so you can buy chocolates later to compensate for a broken heart :p

My problem with BET is that they go so far as to labelling it "Black Entertainment Television". I think it helps entrench the divide.

Why can't people just forget about skin colour and start hating people for the bad music they listen to?

I wonder, if I started an organization called the NAACP (National Association for the Advancement of Caucasion Persons) and organized a million man march on Washington, would I be a racist?

What about DAMN (National Mothers Against Dyslexia) would I be insensitive to the learning disabled?

Oh, yeah, how about NOW (Nationally Organized WASPS) would I be considered insensitive to Women and Minorities both?



:p

Oh, yeah, how about NOW (Nationally Organized WASPS)

Aha! an acronym within an acronym!

Aha! an acronym within an acronym!

OK, so I'm insensitive to English majors as well. Sue me! :p

[QUOTE=Greater londres]xenophobes, bigots and other narrow minded fools

i'm glad you realize what you are

Oh dear, I think something got lost in the translation.

EVERYONE RE-READ MY POST FOR THE LOVE OF GOD :D :D :D

and stop agreeing with me, you xenophone, bigots and other narrow minded fools

I'm saying people who say the top two statements are wrong and I then go on to demonstrate why, surely it wasn't THAT hard to follow? jesus

edited the first post. you lot really need it spelling out to you, don't ya?

Edit:

Read a couple of statements:

Gay pride march?
Where's my straight pride march? Or would that not be 'politically correct'? Are only gays aloud to be proud?

Black TV?
Where's my White TV? Or would that not be 'politically correct'? Is it only racist if it discriminates against blacks?

End of statements

Kids, it's time for a quick lesson: inclusive vs exclusive

In a school, a lunch time activity for computer programmers is opened, the intention is to include the computer programmers as they are the minority and not to exclude those who aren't computer programmers as they are the majority.

At the same school, another activity is started, this one for those who aren't computer programmers, the intention here is not to include those who aren't computer programmers as they are the majority, the intention is to exclude the computer programmers as they are the minority (and possibly ugly geeks).

I have just demonstrated why those two statements are moronic

So next time anyone brings up these frankly idiotic points up again, beat them roud the head for me, ok? cheers

Hopefully this is now clear. ok :)
1) Gay pride marches take place because society tries to make gays ashamed of their sexual orientation. Nobody tries to make us straight folks ashamed, so we don't need pride-building events.

2) Most TV is white TV. How many black folks are regulars on Seinfeld, Deadwood, The Sopranos, King of Queens, Everybody loves Raymond, The Drew Carey Show, et cetera? Sometimes black folks like to watch shows that depict black actors in situations commonly encountered by black citizens.

edited the first post. you lot really need it spelling out to you, don't ya?

People here tend to be slow and you have to be excessively apparent in your writing for their lacklustre reading comprehension to suffice. Takes some getting used to. You also did direct your post towards "xenophobes, bigots and other narrow minded fools." You have to talk to them like the fools they are.

This reminds me of my theory that femonists are actually sexists.;)

It's the opposition to seriously challenging male privilege that's sexist, however prevalent it is in some sectors. Feminism is about securing equality for women; it has always been so, and remains so now.

The fact that people who agree with and benefit from male privilege find those opposed to it discomforting and inconvenient deos not change that fact.

edited the first post. you lot really need it spelling out to you, don't ya?

I caught it the first time I read it, but you probably should have put those two statements in quote boxes. It would have made your meaning clearer to those who merely glance at a post before replying.

Black TV?
Where's my White TV? Or would that not be 'politically correct'? Is it only racist if it discriminates against blacks?

End of statements

Kids, it's time for a quick lesson: inclusive vs exclusive

In a school, a lunch time activity for computer programmers is opened, the intention is to include the computer programmers as they are the minority and not to exclude those who aren't computer programmers as they are the majority.


How about if you went to a school were whites were in the minority? Not that I want to start such a club, just sayin'.

Black TV?
Where's my White TV? Or would that not be 'politically correct'? Is it only racist if it discriminates against blacks?



NBC... thats white tv

Fairness isn't about making sure everyone gets the same, but making sure everyone gets what they need. I think the author of this thread, unfortunately, subscribes to the former idea of fairness, and the next logical step when you do that is to start making prejudicial, misinformed statements as he/she did.

I wonder, if I started an organization called the NAACP (National Association for the Advancement of Caucasion Persons) and organized a million man march on Washington, would I be a racist?

What about DAMN (National Mothers Against Dyslexia) would I be insensitive to the learning disabled?

Oh, yeah, how about NOW (Nationally Organized WASPS) would I be considered insensitive to Women and Minorities both?
Of course you would be a racist, and a chauvinist as well. Since the manner in which groups for the "downtrodden and oppressed masses" are framed, it's impossible to refute anything they advocate, since to do so automatically makes you a "racist and a chauvinist." It's all in how you frame the issue, Grasshopper.

Just one more reason to hate "PC-speak."

2)...Sometimes black folks like to watch shows that depict black actors in situations commonly encountered by black citizens.


If we really want to watch that, I want to file for a change to Asian.

White TV would be boring.

"This is CBS!"

...Sorry, had to say that! :D

The NAACP sucks too, boycotting SC just because we have a Confederate flag on statehouse grounds!! its our frikin heritage goddamit where the NAAWP?????????????:headbang: :headbang:

And the Jews shouldn't complain about swastikas right?
It's German heritage. (sarcasim)

You could make a NAAWP instead of wondering why it doesn't exsist.

How about if you went to a school were whites were in the minority? Not that I want to start such a club, just sayin'.

Well, school's aren't isolated, the actual make up of the society in which it is formed must be considered. In that situation a white only club would be exclusive, but so would a black only one.

I've got to say even in a white majority school in a white majority society having a 'black only' club would be pretty distasteful, so I think the comparison isn't that strong - something like black history month might be a better comparison

Aha! an acronym within an acronym!

ZOMG an acroacronym!

ZOMG an acroacronym!

OMGWTFBBQ!