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What is the root of all evil?

Dubya 1000
02-03-2006, 22:50
I hope this one starts a good discussion. :)
Ifreann
02-03-2006, 22:51
[evil voice]I AM THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL[/evil voice]

You all saw it, I was the first to say it!
Skaladora
02-03-2006, 22:51
[evil voice]I AM THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL[/evil voice]

You all saw it, I was the first to say it!
Damn, you beat me to it!
Europa Maxima
02-03-2006, 22:52
Men, not women. :)
The South Islands
02-03-2006, 22:52
Humans.
Angry Fruit Salad
02-03-2006, 22:52
:sniper: :mp5: :upyours: :headbang: :gundge: Smilies.
Philosopy
02-03-2006, 22:52
Surely a poll/discussion such as this needs to have 'original sin' as an option?
Frangland
02-03-2006, 22:54
women, hands down.


religion gets you saved

money buys nice things

women burn a hole in your pocket and paint the walls pink.
Angry Fruit Salad
02-03-2006, 22:54
Surely a poll/discussion such as this needs to have 'original sin' as an option?


That appears to be a Christian concept. Maybe the author is referring to the generic concept of "evil."
Ifreann
02-03-2006, 22:54
Damn, you beat me to it!

Mwahaha, finally I beat someone too something!


EDIT: Oh and rich nuns are the root of all evil, other than me I mean.
Native Quiggles II
02-03-2006, 22:54
Surely a poll/discussion such as this needs to have 'original sin' as an option?

Religion is already an option ;)
Super-power
02-03-2006, 22:55
root of all evil = √evil
√evil = evil^(1/2)
Written as a log, that means: Log(base evil) √evil = .5
That can be rewritten as: Log(base evil) evil^(1/2) = .5
Wich can be expressed as (1/2)Log(base evil) evil = .5
Any by the looks of it, the solution set runs from (-∞, ∞)
New Age Astrology
02-03-2006, 22:56
Women, dude!!! It's definitely women!
Medellina
02-03-2006, 22:57
zomgz 0.5 is the root of all evil.
Angry Fruit Salad
02-03-2006, 22:58
root of all evil = √evil
√evil = evil^(1/2)
Written as a log, that means: Log(base evil) √evil = .5
That can be rewritten as: Log(base evil) evil^(1/2) = .5
Wich can be expressed as (1/2)Log(base evil) evil = .5

Now I'm stuck


Math. It's math....Math is the root of all evil!!!
Good Lifes
02-03-2006, 22:59
The rich (ie. money) hire armies, then sell war based on religion to get the poor to sacrifice their children. Then they take the money they get from their stock in war suppliers and buy women.
Egg and chips
02-03-2006, 22:59
Where's the option for "I don't believe in evil"?
Czar Natovski Romanov
02-03-2006, 22:59
Humans.

definitely people... not. I think animals can be evil too. The root of all evil is intelligence. Without the intelligence to understand the distinction between good and evil they essentially dont exst. Though it depends on what we're considering evil: evil acts, evil thoughts, or evil animals.
Czar Natovski Romanov
02-03-2006, 23:03
definitely people... not. I think animals can be evil too. The root of all evil is intelligence. Without the intelligence to understand the distinction between good and evil they essentially dont exst. Though it depends on what we're considering evil: evil acts, evil thoughts, or evil animals.

I geuss if were considering all of them, then the answer is life. Evil acts will always happen as long as anything exists to commit them.
Moantha
02-03-2006, 23:04
5 And the people were happy and did cavort and frolic. 2 and George did say There is no basis for a number of good movie plots. 3 And so George created evil into the world. 4 And the people did moan and tear their hair. 5 And they said unto George, 'O Mighty George, why hast thou forsaken us, and brought into this world evil? 6 And George did say
Well, I can't have them questioning me! 7 And thus George destroyed all of humanity by smothering them in gelatin. And he started over. 8 And this time, he did create evil along with everything else, so that no one would think twice about it.
I trust that answers your question.
Dinaverg
02-03-2006, 23:05
Trees.
Ifreann
02-03-2006, 23:06
Oh, so we're gonna go the maths route?
Fabulous, I have a test tomorrow. Some practice shall help.
Girls=Evil
Girls=Time x Money
Time=Money
Girls=Money^2
Evil=Money^2
√Evil=Money
Alternatively
Girls=Time^2
Evil=Time^2
√Evil=Time
History lovers
02-03-2006, 23:08
but...money isn't the root of all evil...the love of it is.
Kerubia
02-03-2006, 23:10
There is no evil.
Smunkeeville
02-03-2006, 23:15
selfishness. I still haven't been able to disprove my theory that every sin can be traced back to selfishness.
AllCoolNamesAreTaken
02-03-2006, 23:16
Oh, so we're gonna go the maths route?
Fabulous, I have a test tomorrow. Some practice shall help.
Girls=Evil
Girls=Time x Money
Time=Money
Girls=Money^2
Evil=Money^2
√Evil=Money
Alternatively
Girls=Time^2
Evil=Time^2
√Evil=Time

Actually the way it goes is this:

Contention 1 : Girls take all your time and money. (Girls = Time x Money)
Contention 2: Time is Money (Time = Money)
Contention 3: Money is the root of all evil. (Money= √Evil.)

then-
(using 1 and 2)
a. Girls = Money^2 (money x money)

Therefore:
(using a and 3)
b. Girls = Evil. (√Evil^2)


And I say that the root of all evil is religious girls who want money.
Randomlittleisland
02-03-2006, 23:16
The letter Q.
Moantha
02-03-2006, 23:17
but...money isn't the root of all evil...the love of it is.

Ah, but money is the root of the love of money.

Which would mean money is the root of the root of all evil, making it the fourth (I believe) root of all evil.
Jocabia
02-03-2006, 23:17
Dubya 1000, of course.
West Byzantium
02-03-2006, 23:20
It is not specifically "love of money", but "love of Mammon" that is used originally. Mammon was a deity based around not only monetary, but world wealth such as opulent homes, rich, exotic, and too much food, money, etc. The idea is that the pursuit of such things leads people to evil, for they care too much for things of no import, leading them to care to little about what is important. Such cares were traditionally called "passions", though there are also positive meanings to the term. Isaac the Syrian taught "Death to the World", saying, "The world is the general name for all passions. When we wish to call the passions by a common name, we call them the world. But when we wish to distinguish them by their special names, we call them passions. The passions are the following: love of riches, desire for possessions, bodily pleasures from which comes sexual passion, love of honor gives rise to envy, lust for power, arrogance and pride of position, the craving to adorn oneself with luxurious clothing and vain ornaments, the itch for human glory which is a source of rancor and resentment, and physical fear. Where these passions cease to be active, there the world is dead....
Someone has said of the Saints that while alive they were dead; for though living in the flesh, they did not live for the flesh. See for which of these passions you are alive. Then you will know how far you are alive to the world, and how far you are dead to it."
Dinaverg
02-03-2006, 23:20
Ah, but money is the root of the love of money.

Which would mean money is the root of the root of all evil, making it the fourth (I believe) root of all evil.

Which leaves us wondering what the first three are....
Ifreann
02-03-2006, 23:22
Actually the way it goes is this:

Contention 1 : Girls take all your time and money. (Girls = Time x Money)
Contention 2: Time is Money (Time = Money)
Contention 3: Money is the root of all evil. (Money= √Evil.)

then-
(using 1 and 2)
a. Girls = Money^2 (money x money)

Therefore:
(using a and 3)
b. Girls = Evil. (√Evil^2)


And I say that the root of all evil is religious girls who want money.

Fool, that proves that girls are evil, we're trying to prove the √Evil.

Which I guess is √Girls
Jocabia
02-03-2006, 23:23
Which leaves us wondering what the first three are....

That's easy. Women, Dubya 1000 and women of course. They're so evil they got two. There's the stuff they do and the stuff they cause men to do. They are clearly the problem.
Dinaverg
02-03-2006, 23:26
That's easy. Women, Dubya 1000 and women of course. They're so evil they got two. There's the stuff they do and the stuff they cause men to do. They are clearly the problem.

But it was shown that girls = evil, not girls = 2(evil).....But maybe.....Women=2*Girls. So that could make sense.....
Chercheur
02-03-2006, 23:27
It's been said, but there is no evil.

If you wanted, you could say it laid your mind, and how you saw it.

Then again, one could become a mime. The possibilities are endless.
Pink Panthora
02-03-2006, 23:32
Desire is the root of all evil. We desire and become unhappy if we cannot receive which then leads to evil acts against the world.
Jocabia
02-03-2006, 23:40
Desire is the root of all evil. We desire and become unhappy if we cannot receive which then leads to evil acts against the world.

That statement makes me WANT you so bad.
Ifreann
02-03-2006, 23:43
But it was shown that girls = evil, not girls = 2(evil).....But maybe.....Women=2*Girls. So that could make sense.....

(Girls+time)^puberty=women
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
02-03-2006, 23:46
Desire is the root of all evil. We desire and become unhappy if we cannot receive which then leads to evil acts against the world.
No, desire is the root of existence. To live, you must want something (if nothing else, you want your next breath, which is why you will take it . . . now. Wasn't that fun?) and if you truly lose all desire you will languor and fade out of reality.
Now, that might seem like a good idea if you are, say, a sheltered prince who never had to so much as wipe his ass for the first couple decades of your life, producing a soft-head and deranged temperment in you. And if you, in your naivete supreme, were to encounter a corpse, an old man, a sick man, and a monk you might completely lose it and wander off into the woods to form a nihlistic cult.
Sane people, however, will quickly recognize the hollowness of such thoughts.
Moantha
02-03-2006, 23:49
No, desire is the root of existence. To live, you must want something (if nothing else, you want your next breath, which is why you will take it . . . now. Wasn't that fun?) and if you truly lose all desire you will languor and fade out of reality.
Now, that might seem like a good idea if you are, say, a sheltered prince who never had to so much as wipe his ass for the first couple decades of your life, producing a soft-head and deranged temperment in you. And if you, in your naivete supreme, were to encounter a corpse, an old man, a sick man, and a monk you might completely lose it and wander off into the woods to form a nihlistic cult.
Sane people, however, will quickly recognize the hollowness of such thoughts.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say you're not fond of Budhissim.
Greater Godsland
02-03-2006, 23:53
Desire is the root of all evil. We desire and become unhappy if we cannot receive which then leads to evil acts against the world.

and we desire what others have which leads to conflict. totally agree with you.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say you're not fond of Budhissim.

hehe i would never have guessed that by his comment... :D, maybe a grudge of some sort?
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
02-03-2006, 23:57
The root of all evil is denial; denying your own desires or denying some fact of life is ultimately self-destructive. Since people are interrelated, one person taking themselves out through selfish ignorance will, inevitably, reduce those people around him. Whereas embracing your inner ambitions, and pursuing your desires will increase your lot, increasing the lots of those around you by exposure.
Moantha
03-03-2006, 00:01
The root of all evil is denial; denying your own desires or denying some fact of life is ultimately self-destructive. Since people are interrelated, one person taking themselves out through selfish ignorance will, inevitably, reduce those people around him. Whereas embracing your inner ambitions, and pursuing your desires will increase your lot, increasing the lots of those around you by exposure.

I'm curious is you can name an instance where Buddhisim has harmed someone, excluding Buddhists fasting.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
03-03-2006, 00:11
I'm curious is you can name an instance where Buddhisim has harmed someone, excluding Buddhists fasting.
Directly? There were a number of Buddhist monks in Japan during the feudal states period that were quite merciless in battle and undiscriminating in their bosses.
That isn't the point, though, is it? The point is that people are drawn into a nihlistic cult, taught that their ambitions are wrong, and are to trade worldly gains for otherworldly (and nonexistent) gains. Buddhism is a religion, and it draws attentions from the real world, where it could be applied to better its followers, and places it in some fantasy about paradise that simply isn't.
Etothepitimesiplusone
03-03-2006, 00:14
I'm curious is you can name an instance where Buddhisim has harmed someone, excluding Buddhists fasting.
The monks who burned themselves with gasoline in protest of the Vietnam war weren't doing anything to help global warming.

The contention that women take time and money and therefore W=T*M is flawed. It should instead be W=T+M.

Contention 2: Money = √Evil
Contention 3: Money = Time

Therefore,

W=T+√E
W=M+√E
W=√E+√E
W=2√E
W/2=√E
(W/2)^2=E
W^2/4=E
E=W^2/4

Thusly, we can quantify the amount of evil in the world by squaring the number of women on earth and dividing by four.
Moantha
03-03-2006, 00:16
Directly? There were a number of Buddhist monks in Japan during the feudal states period that were quite merciless in battle and undiscriminating in their bosses.
That isn't the point, though, is it? The point is that people are drawn into a nihlistic cult, taught that their ambitions are wrong, and are to trade worldly gains for otherworldly (and nonexistent) gains. Buddhism is a religion, and it draws attentions from the real world, where it could be applied to better its followers, and places it in some fantasy about paradise that simply isn't.


First point: Was this because they were Buddhists?

Second point: A The same argument could be made about Christianity, Judaiism, and it's more than likely a number of other religions that I know little about.

B: Not really any way to be sure it's not true till after the fact, is there? Shame.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
03-03-2006, 00:17
The monks who burned themselves with gasoline in protest of the Vietnam war weren't doing anything to help global warming.
They weren't doing anything for themselves either, and the people who brought them up in their traditions are responsible for their deaths.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
03-03-2006, 00:24
First point: Was this because they were Buddhists?
It is because they were Buddhists that they were banded together in the first place, and therefore it is because they were Buddhists that they learned to fight together.
Second point: A The same argument could be made about Christianity, Judaiism, and it's more than likely a number of other religions that I know little about.
Na und? If you'll notice, I said that "denial" is the root of all evil, not Buddhism. I have the same disgust for "Christianity, Judaiism, and it's more than likely a number of other religions that [you] know little about" that I have for Buddhism.
B: Not really any way to be sure it's not true till after the fact, is there? Shame.
There is no factual basis to believe any religion, and there are thousands of religions. Since you can't create a logical argument to promote or disprove any of them, then you can't base rational actions on them.
CanuckHeaven
03-03-2006, 00:30
I hope this one starts a good discussion. :)
Oil.....the root of all evil is oil.
Kamsaki
03-03-2006, 00:32
The root of all evil is... morality. Without it, evil does not exist.
Etothepitimesiplusone
03-03-2006, 00:36
They weren't doing anything for themselves either, and the people who brought them up in their traditions are responsible for their deaths.
What is that supposed to mean?
Rhursbourg
03-03-2006, 00:42
the rot of Evil is Women and the lack of Decent Tailors
Frangland
03-03-2006, 00:45
if we assign numerical values to letters.... A through Z is 1 through 26 (A is 1, Z is 26...)

then the root of ALL EVIL would be:

+/- 8.5440037453175311678716483262397
The UN abassadorship
03-03-2006, 00:45
The root of evil is religion, and man's complex thinking process'
Mintego
03-03-2006, 00:46
money is not thr root of all evil, the love of money is.
Yttiria
03-03-2006, 00:53
Pride. Everything 'evil' really just boils down to human pride.
Yttiria
03-03-2006, 00:54
The root of all evil is... morality. Without it, evil does not exist.

and the root of morality is religion.

PWND, RELIGION!!!
Kamsaki
03-03-2006, 00:56
and the root of morality is religion.

PWND, RELIGION!!!
That's not true. The root of morality is society, of which religion is merely a subclass. It's not important enough to be the root of all evil.
Etothepitimesiplusone
03-03-2006, 00:57
if we assign numerical values to letters.... A through Z is 1 through 26 (A is 1, Z is 26...)

then the root of ALL EVIL would be:

+/- 8.5440037453175311678716483262397
Needless to say, that makes no sense. :p
Seathorn
03-03-2006, 00:58
Damn Damn Damn!

I meant to vote money, but then I voted women because I forgot the root of part.

Damn Damn Damn!
Aryavartha
03-03-2006, 00:58
Desire (for material satisfaction) is the root of all evil - Siddhartha Gautama.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
03-03-2006, 00:59
What is that supposed to mean?
I set myself on fire. This kills me, which isn't good for me, it also harms all those that might care for me, creates a fire hazard, creates problems for law enforcement, and inconveniences those around me. Evil.
I was inducted into a set of beliefs that would encourage me to set myself on fire at some point by a group of old men who were themselves brain washed by a group of old men who were brainwashed by, etc, etc. The old men who brought me in were the cause of the beliefs that caused me to set myself on fire. The men are evil for perpetrating a cause of evil.
In all those circumstances, if people weren't denying their own wants and dedicating themselves to denying the nature of reality, then they wouldn't have done evil and could have lived quite happy and productive lives.
Etothepitimesiplusone
03-03-2006, 00:59
Then we should just all die.
Knights Kyre Elaine
03-03-2006, 01:02
Desire and Expectations are the root of all suffering - Siddhartha Gautama.

The living are the cause of evil.

They concieve evil to be in their minds and thus it exists.

When we have no sense of morality, no ethical concerns, then and only then will evil cease to exist.

Unfortunately you also lose good in the process.
Knights Kyre Elaine
03-03-2006, 01:05
Desire and Expectations are the root of all suffering - Siddhartha Gautama.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
03-03-2006, 01:13
Then we should just all die.
No, we should just all live, but we should live by our desires and our ambitions, not the delusions of mouldy old monks or wanderers.
Neu Leonstein
03-03-2006, 01:15
The root of all evil is moral absolutism, and the belief that your way of doing things is better than someone else's.
Smunkeeville
03-03-2006, 01:17
The root of all evil is moral absolutism, and the belief that your way of doing things is better than someone else's.
but my way is better:eek: :p
Kamsaki
03-03-2006, 01:19
Then we should just all die.
That is perfection, which is essentially what the Buddhist ideology is getting at. Without individuality, nothing can go wrong; the best state of being is one that isn't.

While that is, indeed, perfection, it sucks. Firstly, it is unattainable; even when your consciousness is gone, your matter and memory cannot be destroyed. Secondly, I'd rather take my imperfections and evils over non-existence, personally.
Etothepitimesiplusone
03-03-2006, 01:19
No, we should just all live, but we should live by our desires and our ambitions, not the delusions of mouldy old monks or wanderers.
But being dead is so much easier....
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
03-03-2006, 01:29
But being dead is so much easier....
So sloth is your guiding virtue?
Jerusalas
03-03-2006, 01:30
I was thinking 'nationalism' but 'women' could work, too.

;)
Etothepitimesiplusone
03-03-2006, 01:32
So sloth is your guiding virtue?
You can't be a sloth if you're not alive.
Verozan
03-03-2006, 01:33
*Annoying hippie voice.* George Bush!!!!

Seriously though. I believe the root of all evil is man, as in the human race.
Ladamesansmerci
03-03-2006, 01:35
Why are so many people choosing women? Last time I checked, I wasn't the root of all evil...

If I was, the earth would blow up and cease to exist. *maniacal laughter*
Esselldee
03-03-2006, 01:37
I laughed out loud when I saw the third choice!

I am a woman and I voted for religion.

"With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."
--Steven Weinberg
Melloness follyy
03-03-2006, 01:39
uhhhh we all know that women are the root of all evil i mean there like evil you likem and then they pretend you dont exist and when you do get one they wont put out:headbang: damn them those evil ppl
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
03-03-2006, 01:39
You can't be a sloth if you're not alive.
Yes, but fleeing life because it is easier is slothful. At least I've talked you around to the point where you're being honest, instead of trying to cloak your sloth/fear in religious conviction.
Not that it matters, since you're really just taking the piss at this point, as I would were I on the other side of this argument.
Aggretia
03-03-2006, 01:40
Scarcity is the root of all evil. If nothing were scarce, then noone would need to obtain pleasure at the expense of others.
Melloness follyy
03-03-2006, 01:41
no, your just on cracl:p
Melloness follyy
03-03-2006, 01:42
Crack*
Etothepitimesiplusone
03-03-2006, 01:43
Yes, but fleeing life because it is easier is slothful. At least I've talked you around to the point where you're being honest, instead of trying to cloak your sloth/fear in religious conviction.
Not that it matters, since you're really just taking the piss at this point, as I would were I on the other side of this argument.
Yeah, you responded to some of my sarcasm XD. Although I have been quite slothful as of late...
Chyvaelry
03-03-2006, 01:46
My personal choice of those provided was religion. However, I believe that Greed, intolerance, and apathy are the greatest evils in the modern world. Just my take, and I'm no one of consequence.
St Gregorie
03-03-2006, 01:49
The root of all evil is definetly money. Not religion, religion if it wasn't corrupted by money/greed would be good and not create all this crap. The religious wars you are seeing now is just a front when you look a little deeper behind its money.

I am using Money as a term that incomapses within it greed, land, property, resources, power. All of this falls under money. SO when you really think about it religion is used as a front and is like everything else corrupted by money and all of moneys ugly little minions.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
03-03-2006, 01:49
Yeah, you responded to some of my sarcasm XD. Although I have been quite slothful as of late...
Yeah, well, at least I knew I was doing it. There are few more terrible conversations then when you say something random/stupid, and then someone not only takes you seriously, but actually thinks that you meant Something, and that said Something was insightful.
That brings back memories of Comparitive Religion, and sends me to my dark place.
Fair Progress
03-03-2006, 01:59
Extremism
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
03-03-2006, 02:03
"With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."
--Steven Weinberg
Because, as a physicist, Steven Weinberg is an obvious expert on history, psychology, morality and theology.
Ralina
03-03-2006, 02:17
What is greater then God,
More evil than Satan,
The rich have it,
The poor need it,
And if you eat it you will die?


Why, its money, the true root of all evil or something like that.
Etothepitimesiplusone
03-03-2006, 02:21
Yeah, well, at least I knew I was doing it. There are few more terrible conversations then when you say something random/stupid, and then someone not only takes you seriously, but actually thinks that you meant Something, and that said Something was insightful.
That brings back memories of Comparitive Religion, and sends me to my dark place.*High fives for coolness*
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
03-03-2006, 02:22
What is greater then God,
More evil than Satan,
The rich have it,
The poor need it,
And if you eat it you will die?
You got it wrong. It is "The rich need it/the poor have it", and the answer is Nothing.
And before you say something to this effect: Ja, ich bin ein "Riddle Nazi."
5iam
03-03-2006, 02:25
"the love of money"
is the answer.


so neither of the options.
Etothepitimesiplusone
03-03-2006, 02:25
What about the money of love?
Tweet Tweet
03-03-2006, 02:33
What about the money of love?


Oh, nice retort. However, if it is true love, then money is not needed. Not until a family wants to come along anyways. Not all women are so superficial, but men seem to like the ones who are. So shame on men, as women are not evil, but men are perceiving them to be so.

But I'm just a poor student-woman in love. I'd much rather gaze at the stars with my man than have a Porshe, multi-million dollar house, or chihuahua bought for me. :D
Myrcia
03-03-2006, 02:43
The root of all evil is moral absolutism, and the belief that your way of doing things is better than someone else's.

But doesn't everybody believe that? If you don't believe your way is the best, then why do you continue to live that way? If there is a way that you think is better, you should be doing that instead of following your current system.

I personally believe that the love of money is the root of all evil, not money itself.
Snakastan
03-03-2006, 02:46
Money or rather a desire for resources is at the center of all human conflict and suffering.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
03-03-2006, 02:56
Money or rather a desire for resources is at the center of all human conflict and suffering.
Conflict =/= Evil.
Isso
03-03-2006, 03:05
definitely people... not. I think animals can be evil too. The root of all evil is intelligence. Without the intelligence to understand the distinction between good and evil they essentially dont exst. Though it depends on what we're considering evil: evil acts, evil thoughts, or evil animals.

Sentience, without it there are no concepts, even less so morality. Animals can't possibly be evil, it is you who project that moral perception onto them. There is no moral concept without self-conscience.
Moantha
03-03-2006, 03:16
What is greater then God,
More evil than Satan,
The rich have it,
The poor need it,
And if you eat it you will die?


Why, its money, the true root of all evil or something like that.

Not true. I swallowed a quarter once when I was a small child. I'm still alive. You're riddle fails.
Anti-Social Darwinism
03-03-2006, 03:18
Ah, but money is the root of the love of money.

Which would mean money is the root of the root of all evil, making it the fourth (I believe) root of all evil.

Actually, I think love is the root of the love of money and using your logical progression, would make love the root of all evil.

But, if you want a serious answer, lack of empathy is the root of all evil.
Snakastan
03-03-2006, 03:23
Conflict =/= Evil.

Is there any type of evil that doesn't result from one or both of the two?
Dinaverg
03-03-2006, 03:24
Sentience, without it there are no concepts, even less so morality. Animals can't possibly be evil, it is you who project that moral perception onto them. There is no moral concept without self-conscience.

...I still think whales are evil...Besides, isn't sentience the capability to feel or something?
Ladamesansmerci
03-03-2006, 03:34
Money or rather a desire for resources is at the center of all human conflict and suffering.

CAPITALISM! IT'S ALL CAPITALISM'S FAULT!
Avertide
03-03-2006, 03:40
Well... When you think about it, Women are responsible for humans bothering to start civillization and all the bad stuff that's happened since then...
Carnivorous Lickers
03-03-2006, 03:45
people have told me I was the root of all evil, but I think I'm a nice guy.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
03-03-2006, 03:46
Well... When you think about it, Women are responsible for humans bothering to start civillization and all the bad stuff that's happened since then...
'Course, there was bad stuff before civilization, too.
Anti-Social Darwinism
03-03-2006, 03:46
Well... When you think about it, Women are responsible for humans bothering to start civillization and all the bad stuff that's happened since then...

I disagree, God is responsible. He started it. If you believe that he put us here and then gave us a stricture, much like the injunction to not look at the elephant in the kitchen, about eating of the tree of knowledge of good and evil (and he had to know what that would lead to) then you have to realize that all evil started with God.
Katurkalurkmurkastan
03-03-2006, 03:48
Actually, I think love is the root of the love of money and using your logical progression, would make love the root of all evil.

no, that would make love the fourth-root of all evil.
Veermania
03-03-2006, 03:52
root of all evil = √evil
√evil = evil^(1/2)
Written as a log, that means: Log(base evil) √evil = .5
That can be rewritten as: Log(base evil) evil^(1/2) = .5
Wich can be expressed as (1/2)Log(base evil) evil = .5
Any by the looks of it, the solution set runs from (-∞, ∞)

The log(x)x=1 for any number. That is all your proof states.

Variable Definition:
Evil=e
Unknown root of evil=a

e=a^2
e^1/2=(a^2)^1/2
e^1/2=a

Therefore we must know the variable a for the root to be determined.
Since we are speaking in actual mechanisms of evil the variable a must consist of 2 different but equal mechanisms by which evil is perpetuated.


Let these variables be:

a=variable1
b=variable2
e^1/2= ab

So we have 2 variables that must represent mechanisms by which evil is perpetuated. Perhaps these variables can also be rooted to yield the mechanisms by which they operate.

If I were so inclined I would state the two variables to consist of:

a= moral precept (could be due to indoctrination and instinctive intuitive concepts of "tit-for-tat", in any permutation)

b= drive to act in a manner as to induce individual(s)(even oneself) to perceive action as evil (this is very complex, most of it is driven by instinctive competitive drives for resources and reproductive success; could also include insanity or genetic defects etc)

So you need people to perceive action as evil and those to carry out evil act.

The only way to eliminate evil would be for everyone to be completely cooperative with one another. This could be for any goal as none would exist to perceive the action as evil.

I have produced this tidbit using the assumption that the definition of evil is such:

Evil- Actions that are extremely unacceptable to a person or group of persons; usually perceived as detrimental in some manner.
Dubya 1000
03-03-2006, 03:53
Dubya 1000, of course.

Hey, don't drag me into this, all I did was start a thread about evil :cool:
Imperial Evil Vertigo
03-03-2006, 04:33
The log(x)x=1 for any number. That is all your proof states.

Variable Definition:
Evil=e
Unknown root of evil=a

e=a^2
e^1/2=(a^2)^1/2
e^1/2=a

Therefore we must know the variable a for the root to be determined.
Since we are speaking in actual mechanisms of evil the variable a must consist of 2 different but equal mechanisms by which evil is perpetuated.


Let these variables be:

a=variable1
b=variable2
e^1/2= ab

So we have 2 variables that must represent mechanisms by which evil is perpetuated. Perhaps these variables can also be rooted to yield the mechanisms by which they operate.

If I were so inclined I would state the two variables to consist of:

a= moral precept (could be due to indoctrination and instinctive intuitive concepts of "tit-for-tat", in any permutation)

b= drive to act in a manner as to induce individual(s)(even oneself) to perceive action as evil (this is very complex, most of it is driven by instinctive competitive drives for resources and reproductive success; could also include insanity or genetic defects etc)

So you need people to perceive action as evil and those to carry out evil act.

The only way to eliminate evil would be for everyone to be completely cooperative with one another. This could be for any goal as none would exist to perceive the action as evil.

I have produced this tidbit using the assumption that the definition of evil is such:

Evil- Actions that are extremely unacceptable to a person or group of persons; usually perceived as detrimental in some manner.


In supporting the woman theory:
Girls take time and money to make.
so
Girls = Time x Money
They say time is money, so
Girls = Money2 (that means squared)
And they say money is the root of all evil, so


Girls = Evil2
so the root of Evil4 is girls.

But I believe Ignorance is the root of all evil, because, well, think about it. Bullies are ignorant of the victims feelings, for if they shared the feeling the bully would not want a beating on himself. Also, in a war, the opposing sides are ignorant of each other, swimming in their own propoganda and lies. And much more.... think about it.
Dubya 1000
03-03-2006, 04:43
In supporting the woman theory:
Girls take time and money to make.
so
Girls = Time x Money
They say time is money, so
Girls = Money2 (that means squared)
And they say money is the root of all evil, so


Girls = Evil2
so the root of Evil4 is girls.

But I believe Ignorance is the root of all evil, because, well, think about it. Bullies are ignorant of the victims feelings, for if they shared the feeling the bully would not want a beating on himself. Also, in a war, the opposing sides are ignorant of each other, swimming in their own propoganda and lies. And much more.... think about it.

FEELINGS are the root of all evil

I have nothing to do:(
Etothepitimesiplusone
03-03-2006, 04:43
Oh, nice retort. However, if it is true love, then money is not needed. Not until a family wants to come along anyways. Not all women are so superficial, but men seem to like the ones who are. So shame on men, as women are not evil, but men are perceiving them to be so.

But I'm just a poor student-woman in love. I'd much rather gaze at the stars with my man than have a Porshe, multi-million dollar house, or chihuahua bought for me. :D
Staring at the stars while in a Porshe?
Good Lifes
03-03-2006, 06:10
Scarcity is the root of all evil. If nothing were scarce, then noone would need to obtain pleasure at the expense of others.
Then why do multimillionare oil execs who have never experienced scarcity hire poor kids to die in war so they can get richer? Not scarcity. MONEY, MONEY, and MORE MONEY!
Neu Leonstein
03-03-2006, 06:16
But doesn't everybody believe that? If you don't believe your way is the best, then why do you continue to live that way? If there is a way that you think is better, you should be doing that instead of following your current system.
That's silly.

I can be perfectly happy with living my life a certain way, and still accept that that might not be what is best for everyone else. It's all about live and let live.
Hanwu
03-03-2006, 06:24
none of your choices in the poll strike me as the root of all evil. the root of all evil imo is apathy.
Andaluciae
03-03-2006, 06:40
I don't see jealousy in general.

Money and women are just two things that bring up jealousy. Jealousy can come from virtually anything, even my pants.
Rameria
03-03-2006, 06:44
Fish. Fish are the root of all evil.
The name that was used
03-03-2006, 06:56
Hey! girls are not the root of all evil :mad:! I think the root is wanting more because it just leads to problems and it also explains the reson why they blame money. It is only evil if you want more.
M3rcenaries
03-03-2006, 07:06
Well of the choices women would be the root of all evil. Since the meening of root is A primary source; an origin, and women were around before the other to. Thus making all 52% of the worlds population the obvious choice for evil.
Angry Fruit Salad
03-03-2006, 19:46
And you guys just proved me right once again -- math is indeed the root of all evil..
Xenophobialand
03-03-2006, 19:54
The only true sin is ignorance. The common purpose behind all action is that we believe it will make us happy. Since we are often unaware of what will make us happy, we often do evil things.
Kzord
03-03-2006, 19:59
The root of evil... irrational thought I guess.
Luporum
03-03-2006, 20:02
Private Property
Imperiux
03-03-2006, 20:05
The root of all evil? Humanity. In fact, the existence of any sentient lifeform. If we didn't exist, then the belief of evil would cease to exist, as would the belief of good. They are just two names for something that feels positive and something that feels negative.
Magdha
03-03-2006, 20:11
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fe/Bob_Dole.jpg
THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL
Magdha
03-03-2006, 20:11
Private Property

lmao
Hannibal the Greatest
03-03-2006, 23:09
Sin is the root of all evil. I'm suprised that isn't on the poll.
La Cienega
03-03-2006, 23:22
Most evil has something to do with violence.

And I have heard that aggressive, violent behaviour in both men and women has sometimes been attributed to high testosterone levels. So maybe testosterone is the root of a lot of evil.
Straughn
03-03-2006, 23:57
Hey, don't drag me into this, all I did was start a thread about evil :cool:
YOU'RE the "serpent at the tree".
*slither*
Markiria
04-03-2006, 00:02
The root of all evil is Goverments
Dubya 1000
04-03-2006, 00:27
Sin is the root of all evil. I'm suprised that isn't on the poll.

There's a lot of different kinds of sins, and besides, I find the whole concept of "sin" to be vastly overrated.
Vellia
04-03-2006, 00:32
I would say pride even though it's not on the pole.

It causes persons to have an unhealthy desire for money so that they disregard everything else because they're worth it.

It causes the corruption of religion because leaders begin to think they know more than their own holy persons or writings.

It causes women and men who are tempted by women to have unhealthy relationships because they're worth it.

The list goes on...
Terecia
04-03-2006, 00:32
Radicals. You got your radical chauvenists(or however you spell it) that treat everything that isn't a man.....under them. You got radical feminists, which see themselves as opressed and pretty much hate everything masculine. You got radical religious, that twist religions to suit their needs, usually violent in nature.
You got radical governments, which supress all people that say things against them.

It's radicals.
Terrorist Cakes
04-03-2006, 00:47
Money, or lack thereof. Poverty breeds instability, which breeds crime and anarchy. Of course, there are hundreds of things that also contribute to the problem, like government corruption. It's not exactly a one-dimensional issue, but if asked for the largest factor, I would certainly say money.
Terrorist Cakes
04-03-2006, 00:49
Radicals. You got your radical chauvenists(or however you spell it) that treat everything that isn't a man.....under them. You got radical feminists, which see themselves as opressed and pretty much hate everything masculine. You got radical religious, that twist religions to suit their needs, usually violent in nature.
You got radical governments, which supress all people that say things against them.

It's radicals.

You assume all radicals are radically bad. Not so. Some radicals are radically idealistic (eg: myself).
Gravlen
04-03-2006, 01:12
The root of all evil is Pi. You know, 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510582097494459230781640628620899862803482534211706 7982148086513282306647093844609550582231725359408128481117450284102701938521105559644622948954930381 9644288109756659334461284756482337867831652712019091456485669234603486104543266482133936072602491412 7372458700660631558817488152092096282925409171536436789259036001133053054882046652138414695194151160 9...

Mmmm... Pi :fluffle:
Kamsaki
04-03-2006, 01:22
Pi can't be the root of all evil; it's transcendental.
Gravlen
04-03-2006, 02:40
Pi can't be the root of all evil; it's transcendental.
No, I'm pretty sure it's pi. Or pie, I always mix them up... Deliciously evil anyway :cool: