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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4767652.stm

So, apparently an Italian Parliamentary commission has come to the conclusion that the attempt on the former Pope's life was indeed authorized at the highest levels of the Soviet government. Not that this makes any difference because the Soviet Union is gone, and no one really can be arrested for this one, but it is another blow against the various apologists for the late-era Soviet Union and its policies.

This is what I do when I have nothing to do at work. Woohoo.

Come on. If they couldn't kill a frail old fella like John Paul II, they didn't really deserve to win the Cold War, did they?

He wasn't frail and old when they tried to kill him.

I seriously doubt this is the case. Killing JP would just make him a brilliant martyr, and would have made things much more sticky for the Soviets. They were many things, but stupid wasn't one of them.

If killing the Pope would kill Catholicism I would be all for it, but the Catholic religion has a fool-proof safety system for that. Hell, their GOD was murdered for his beliefs, and they've been powered by that for CENTURIES...killing God's Vicar would only make them stronger.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4767652.stm

So, apparently an Italian Parliamentary commission has come to the conclusion that the attempt on the former Pope's life was indeed authorized at the highest levels of the Soviet government. ... It is another blow against the various apologists for the late-era Soviet Union and its policies.
It will be studiously ignored by most on here, if for no other reason than that it doesn't show America in any sort of unfavorable light.

The Soviet Union was not that stupid. The Pope was of no importance to them. Hell, in 1980 they put the Red Army on 72 hour standby to invade Poland, that was more like it, and they still called it off because it wasn't worth it.

It will be studiously ignored by most on here, if for no other reason than that it doesn't show America in any sort of unfavorable light.
Not really. You ever seen a Kennedy assassination conspiracy thread go far here? It's because people can detect BS and don't really care.

It will be studiously ignored by most on here, if for no other reason than that it doesn't show America in any sort of unfavorable light.

You just have to drag the US into every thread don't you. :rolleyes:

You just have to drag the US into every thread don't you. :rolleyes:
Yes, those bastards deserve it! Bush and the American people are obviously to blame for making the Russians paranoid. :rolleyes:

Yes, those bastards deserve it! Bush and the American people are obviously to blame for making the Russians paranoid. :rolleyes:

Get over yourself Eut.

You just have to drag the US into every thread don't you. :rolleyes:
You know now that I think of it, it could have been an American conspiracy to frame the Soviet Union, creating a useful martyr and making the Reds look really evil. Like how the whole September 11 thing was a setup to create an excuse to steal oil in the Middle East.

Thanks Eutrusca! I have to say, you are always one step ahead, showing us to be mere amateurs. :)

Yall DO realize that Pope John Paul II played a very big role in bringing down communism in Eastern Europe right? He advocated free trade among the nations. Thats a very big deal, so yea, I can see Pope John Paul II being on their hit list.

It will be studiously ignored by most on here, if for no other reason than that it doesn't show America in any sort of unfavorable light.
I think people around here are more likely to ignore it because most people are hardly old enough to remember this assassination attempt, and most of those who can remember it didn't even care about it at the time it happened. Most people here are more interested in current events, and less interested in how a government that no longer exists may have tried to kill a guy who is now dead.

Yall DO realize that Pope John Paul II played a very big role in bringing down communism in Eastern Europe right? He advocated free trade among the nations. Thats a very big deal, so yea, I can see Pope John Paul II being on their hit list.
I know he did that. But killing him would NOT have helped them, in my opinion. I think they would have known that. I don't think they would have done something as stupid as make a martyr out of JP.

I know he did that. But killing him would NOT have helped them, in my opinion. I think they would have known that. I don't think they would have done something as stupid as make a martyr out of JP.

*tsk tsk tsK* If you haven't learned from the U.S.A. government that any govermental offical is basically an idiot, then you have failed.

So? News flash: the Pope was behind the sabotage of pro-Soviet governments.

Good on the Soviets for trying to bring down a dictator ;)

So? News flash: the Pope was behind the sabotage of pro-Soviet governments.
Sabotage?

That's a unique term to use to describe his opposition to the Soviet dominance of poland.

Yall DO realize that Pope John Paul II played a very big role in bringing down communism in Eastern Europe right? He advocated free trade among the nations. Thats a very big deal, so yea, I can see Pope John Paul II being on their hit list.

I wonder how the assassination of JPII would have been taken in Poland. Probably not something the USSR would want to risk.

Of course it was the soviets

Get over yourself Eut.
Agreed. Also, he could drop the holier-than-thou, puritanical attitude.

Sabotage?

That's a unique term to use to describe his opposition to the Soviet dominance of poland.
I didn't mean to say that they were right. I just meant to say that people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. I would also want to know more about wther the Opus Dei directed money to opposition movements inside the Eastern Bloc.