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Should killing pedophiles be justifiable homicide?

Shouldn't people just be able to look at pedophile registries and go kill who ever is on the registry? I mean what pedophiles do is worse than murder. They have no conscience they are not human. If you killed them off you would be doing the community a favor. Many cases of “vigilantism” that have been brought to trail have demonstrated that juries side with the pedophile “vigilantes” even when the pedophile “vigilantes” confess to “crimes” they committed against pedophiles.

No one can punish you for stating how you feel so how about it. Should killing pedophiles say by looking them up in pedophile registries hunting them down and killing them be considered justifiable homicide?

Also to note: Any one who votes no is a pedophile or a pedophile supporter and just as bad a pedophile. I made the poll public so that we will know who you are.

No.

Now since that makes me as bad as a pedophile, go ahead and try to get away with my murder.:rolleyes:

If I caught one in the act I'd cave his skull in with a cinder block. Otherwise, hey, justice prevails etc.

No.

Now since that makes me as bad as a pedophile, go ahead and try to get away with my murder.:rolleyes:

Odd how quik that was. Why do you think pedophiles should be allowed to live?

Any pedophile who molests one of my grandchildren, or who attempts to molest anyone else's child in my presence is already dead. He's still walking around for awhile, thinking he's alive, but he's already a dead man.

Pedofiles who don't act on their perverted compulsions are to be pitied. Those who do act on it are to be killed or removed from society permanently.

Odd how quik that was. Why do you think pedophiles should be allowed to live?
Because I don't believe in executing people as a valid form of 'punishment'.

Also to note: Any one who votes no is a pedophile or a pedophile supporter and just as bad a pedophile. I made the poll public so that we will know who you are.

Yes, because treasuring the justice system and rule of law above revenge and mob mentality is so similar to fucking babies. Why, everytime I see a police officer enforcing the law or a judge making sure that rule of law is supreme, I think "baby fucker!". :rolleyes:

Oh, and by the by, you fail at teh Internets, since you did in fact not manage to make the poll public.

If I caught one in the act I'd cave his skull in with a cinder block. Otherwise, hey, justice prevails etc.

To be expected. The idea that their are monsters among us and that they can be simply identified by there atraction to minors dismissing of course all the people who are not sexually attracted to children who rape murder mutalate etc.

Any pedophile who molests one of my grandchildren, or who attempts to molest anyone else's child in my presence is already dead. He's still walking around for awhile, thinking he's alive, but he's already a dead man.

You take off their heads and the impulses keep the body shuffling around? That's helluva cool.

No

No matter how despicable and hateful their crimes are - and they are, do not doubt me on that view - it is a slippery slope. One day you justify killing paedophiles because they are evil. Then perhaps rapists. Then murderers. Then robbers. Then social welfare fraudsters. Then the person who spits on the pavement. Where does it stop?

I support paedophiles being publicly outed and despised - but justifiable homicide, absolutely not.

I do feel that pedophiles commit among the most heinous crimes. I dont feel a majority of them can be rehabilitated to be considered safe, contributing members of society again.

But, to declare open season on them is insane-I'm sure you're aware of what you're proposing here.

We could also then argue to hunt down and kill all convicted murderers, serial and otherwise, rapists, arsonists,drunk drivers and then anyone else that has made someone else miserable.

Yes, because treasuring the justice system and rule of law above revenge and mob mentality is so similar to fucking babies.
( shrug ) Should the occasion to kill one ever arrise, I would accept whatever punishment the judicial system deems appropriate. Wanting to take action should always include a realistic assessment of the risks and a willingness to accept them.

Odd how quik that was. Why do you think pedophiles should be allowed to live?
Perhaps because we are trying to base our laws on a concept of Justice that doesn't allow for excessive punishment? Perhaps because the paedophile hasn't killed anyone, and so ending his life would be punishing them beyond their crime, a practice that several bloody revolutions were fought to end in Europe just a couple centuries ago?

Do not feed the troll.

To be expected. The idea that their are monsters among us and that they can be simply identified by there atraction to minors dismissing of course all the people who are not sexually attracted to children who rape murder mutalate etc.
Your misuse of there and their is really making it difficult to understand what the hell you are saying. Though that isn't the only problem.

Mob justice is SO 16th century :rolleyes:

To be expected. The idea that their are monsters among us and that they can be simply identified by there atraction to minors dismissing of course all the people who are not sexually attracted to children who rape murder mutalate etc.

Hey, I didn't say I'd give them exclusive rights to be given a concrete lobotomy. They're just on my large list of people who, when caught doing one of these unsavoury things to someone else, get to eat the portable pavement.

And now I'm running out of clever terms for cinder blocks.

We could also then argue to hunt down and kill all convicted murderers, serial and otherwise, rapists, arsonists,drunk drivers and then anyone else that has made someone else miserable.
Sorry, but that won't hold water. Pedophilia is so henious a crime as to place one totally beyond the pale, IMHO.

No

No matter how despicable and hateful their crimes are - and they are, do not doubt me on that view - it is a slippery slope. One day you justify killing paedophiles because they are evil. Then perhaps rapists. Then murderers. Then robbers. Then social welfare fraudsters. Then the person who spits on the pavement. Where does it stop?
Well, I hear public stonings and beheadings are popular in some countries...

If I caught one in the act I'd cave his skull in with a cinder block. Otherwise, hey, justice prevails etc.

Thats how I feel.

Mob justice is SO 16th century :rolleyes:
Who said anything about a "mob?" It would be just lil ole me. :D

Yes, because treasuring the justice system and rule of law above revenge and mob mentality is so similar to fucking babies. Why, everytime I see a police officer enforcing the law or a judge making sure that rule of law is supreme, I think "baby fucker!". :rolleyes:

Oh, and by the by, you fail at teh Internets, since you did in fact not manage to make the poll public.

Are you fed up with the mob mentality against pedophiles? Are you fed up with the people who get away with acts simply becuase those acts where directed against pedophiles? Say the Miami Dade Commissioner Randy Harris and the incident that killed a wheel chair bound handicapped man?

( shrug ) Should the occasion to kill one ever arrise, I would accept whatever punishment the judicial system deems appropriate. Wanting to take action should always include a realistic assessment of the risks and a willingness to accept them.

If you want to commit murder and face the penalty for it - which you should, as you did commit murder no matter the murdered person - then you should have the book thrown at you. This is however not what this thread is about, as the OP promotes murder with impunity.

Who said anything about a "mob?" It would be just lil ole me. :D

Mob justice may be so 16th centry. Actually mob justice is still practiced today. Why do you think mob justice should not be given to pedophiles? Do you think pedophiles have a right to live?

Sorry, but that won't hold water. Pedophilia is so henious a crime as to place one totally beyond the pale, IMHO.
Right. And other forms of rape aren't nearly as bad, therefore, only child-rapers deserve to die, in your books?

Hmmm...when did you wake up and find out you were God?

Are you fed up with the mob mentality against pedophiles? Are you fed up with the people who get away with acts simply becuase those acts where directed against pedophiles? Say the Miami Dade Commissioner Randy Harris and the incident that killed a wheel chair bound handicapped man?

I've no idea what you are talking about. I am not a Floridian, nor am I a USian, so I do not keep myself apprised of such regional US news.

You take off their heads and the impulses keep the body shuffling around? That's helluva cool.
The separation of head from body sometimes allows a few seconds of automatic functions. :D

Are you fed up with the mob mentality against pedophiles? Are you fed up with the people who get away with acts simply becuase those acts where directed against pedophiles? Say the Miami Dade Commissioner Randy Harris and the incident that killed a wheel chair bound handicapped man?
I don't know why you USians think we should have a clue as to what you are talking about when you bring up your local news...

1. Why do you think mob justice should not be given to pedophiles?

2. Do you think pedophiles have a right to live?
1. I won't need any help.

2. No.

Your misuse of there and their is really making it difficult to understand what the hell you are saying. Though that isn't the only problem.
http://www.journalfen.net/userpic/51377/5630

No

No matter how despicable and hateful their crimes are - and they are, do not doubt me on that view - it is a slippery slope. One day you justify killing paedophiles because they are evil. Then perhaps rapists. Then murderers. Then robbers. Then social welfare fraudsters. Then the person who spits on the pavement. Where does it stop?

I support paedophiles being publicly outed and despised - but justifiable homicide, absolutely not.
Whats such I slippery slope about it? theres nothing wrong about killing pedos, rapists, or murderers. As for robbers, if someone comes into my house to steal my stuff, me and my gun will have something to say about it. The only way that guy would be leaving is in body bag. I live in Fl. so its legal and I have ZERO sympathy for criminals.

I don't know why you USians think we should have a clue as to what you are talking about when you bring up your local news...

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10513106&postcount=27

I concurred.

Mob justice may be so 16th centry. Actually mob justice is still practiced today. Why do you think mob justice should not be given to pedophiles? Do you think pedophiles have a right to live?

Paedophiles are scum. I won't argue with you on that point. But, as my earlier post pointed out, where does it stop? Justify killing paedophiles today and tomorrow robbers and the day after jaywalkers. The justice system may not be perfect, but it's far better than anarchist justice.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10513106&postcount=27
I concurred.
I see what you did there (http://media.urbandictionary.com/image/large/iseewhatyoudidthere-40431.jpg) :rolleyes:

Ooh, ooh, I know! Let's kill everyone who advocates using the "justifiable" murder of anyone on the registry. These would be justifiable homicides because those people are threats to other people and society as a whole, thus justifiable. I win.

Your misuse of there and their is really making it difficult to understand what the hell you are saying. Though that isn't the only problem.

Sorry about the grammor

The idea that there are monsters among us and that they can be simply identified by there atraction to minors dismissing of course all the people who are not sexually attracted to children who rape murder mutalate etc is rather ignorant is it not?

ignorant in the sense of being without knowledge not the insult.

1. And other forms of rape aren't nearly as bad, therefore, only child-rapers deserve to die, in your books?

2. Hmmm...when did you wake up and find out you were God?
1. Yes. Rape is bad enough, but when done to a child it not only affects that child's entire future, but the futures of any children he or she might have, as well as the child's parents, extended family, siblings, friends, etc.

2. I didn't.

I don't know why you USians think we should have a clue as to what you are talking about when you bring up your local news...

When you use "USians" you should you don't have a clue.

what about those who are on lists for looking at websites??
They may never do anything to hurt a single child. I'm a pretty big fan of women but I've so far never raped one!
still bad but not meriting a death sentence........we can't choose who we're attracted to

http://www.journalfen.net/userpic/51377/5630
Oh come on...
To be expected. The idea that their are monsters among us and that they can be simply identified by there atraction to minors dismissing of course all the people who are not sexually attracted to children who rape murder mutalate etc.Tell me you didn't have to read this about three times to figure out what he was on about?

Paedophiles are scum. I won't argue with you on that point. But, as my earlier post pointed out, where does it stop? Justify killing paedophiles today and tomorrow robbers and the day after jaywalkers. The justice system may not be perfect, but it's far better than anarchist justice.
Specious "slippery slope" argument. Your proof??

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10513106&postcount=27

I concurred.
I noticed that you got your word in first...and you just HAD to rub it in, didn't you?

Oh come on...Tell me you didn't have to read this about three times to figure out what he was on about?
No, only once

Why do you think mob justice should not be given to pedophiles?

Because things like this happen:

http://newswww.bbc.net.uk/1/hi/england/london/4165582.stm

Actually no it isn't.

Gee, you think?

Why do the prisions have to seperate child preditors from the cons?

Because the people who work in the prison are incompetent.

You can't cure pedophilia and one that attacks will probably re-offend.

Like most other crimes, that is.

I don't know. I never understood this feel sorry for the killer or pedophile mentality.

I don't know. I never understood this weakness of conviction you exhibit that makes you willing to abandon rule of law.

I noticed that you got your word in first...and you just HAD to rub it in, didn't you?

Tu me connais.

I don't know. I never understood this feel sorry for the killer or pedophile mentality.
Give me a break. Because we are saying, some Joe Blow shouldn't be given the power to just off and kill someone, suddenly we 'feel sorry for the killer or pedophile'? We don't support this idea of vigilante hill-billy 'justice'. Period.

if they were attacking my or my family/friends
then yes.
if not
then no.

I see what you did there (http://media.urbandictionary.com/image/large/iseewhatyoudidthere-40431.jpg) :rolleyes:
If all you are going to do is Spam with images...reconsider.

Odd how quik that was. Why do you think pedophiles should be allowed to live?

why should you be allowed to live? The death penalty is a joke and so are you, for saying that anyone against murdering criminals is a criminal-lover. Killing criminals is not the answer to deterring crime.

At what stage does a Paedophile become a Rapist? Is it when their victim is 16/age of consent in their country? 18/age of majority in their country? What if they thought their victim was an adult?

And if you're gonna kill everyone on the register, you are gonna be killing a lot of people who arent really twisted. Suprisingly enough there ARE cases where 15 year olds want relationsips with older men. (I'm not condoning this BTW. I'm just pointing it out as a fact)

When you use "USians" you should you don't have a clue.
Seriously, is this 'unable to form a coherent sentence day' or something? Or is my tolerance level for it just very low?

Because things like this happen:

http://newswww.bbc.net.uk/1/hi/england/london/4165582.stm

@ Eutrusca: This is exactly my point. If what you advocate is allowed to happen, this sort of thing will occur a hundred-fold, I can assure you. Hell, people might make up stories to get back grudges - imagine in a divorce case, a wife alledges her husband touched little Timmy. A false accusation but under your form of justice the husband would be dead. And then once paedophiles are targeted, who's next? Rapists perhaps - and the cycle begins anew.

There has to be civilised justice and a proper system, or we'd just go arpund shooting and stabbing anyone who we thought had wronged us and devolve into mob violence.

If all you are going to do is Spam with images...reconsider.
Do you even know the meaning behind that phrase?
A phrase of obvious sarcasm, used in message boards and the like, to point out that a previous post was not funny even though the creator of the unfunny post thought it was.
Source: urbandictionary.com

Specious "slippery slope" argument. Your proof??
You are advocating extra-judicial killings. Read that again. Now talk about how you need proof that this is wrong, and will likely lead to further contempt of the system of justice your nation is founded on.

Seriously, is this 'unable to form a coherent sentence day' or something? Or is my tolerance level for it just very low?

Perhaps the failure of the fora had eroded your immunity.

I don't know why you USians think we should have a clue as to what you are talking about when you bring up your local news...
Well, don't you think it's strange how, when it suits you, you seem to know oh so much about all Americans' short-comings, yet are clueless on so many other things? What is that? "Cherry-picking?" Selective memory loss? What?

Mob justice may be so 16th centry. Actually mob justice is still practiced today. Why do you think mob justice should not be given to pedophiles? Do you think pedophiles have a right to live?

Mob justice should not be given to anybody. Mob justice goes against all civilised behaviour and undermines the entire legal system. I also do think pedophiles have a right to live. Their crimes are sickening, but that does not mean they deserve to be executed.

Because things like this happen:

http://newswww.bbc.net.uk/1/hi/england/london/4165582.stm

Yes mistaken identities happen. The illiterate some times target pediatrists or other professions biging with ped. It is common here in the US that vigilantie Justice is given to registered sex offenders with impunity. Never mind the fact that the ones who don't register are usually more dangerous.

Mob justice should not be given to anybody. Mob justice goes against all civilised behaviour and undermines the entire legal system. I also do think pedophiles have a right to live. Their crimes are sickening, but that does not mean they deserve to be executed.
I totally disagree.

Non pedophiles should donate their first bornes to pedophile organisations to make up for all the years of opression.

Do you even know the meaning behind that phrase?
A phrase of obvious sarcasm, used in message boards and the like, to point out that a previous post was not funny even though the creator of the unfunny post thought it was.
Source: urbandictionary.com
Ah, message board speak. How droll.:rolleyes:

Seriously, is this 'unable to form a coherent sentence day' or something? Or is my tolerance level for it just very low?


as opposed to the days you're really tolerant? Yeah-the level is low today.

Just avoid making the condescending generalizations that include me as I'm taking things personally today.

Because the people who work in the prison are incompetent.

Actually it's more then that. A convicted killer explain it as this. When you kill and adult and even a teenager; they have a chance to defend themselves. A child does not.

A strange code of "ethics" they have. Point still remains even other criminals doen't like them.


Like most other crimes, that is.

Many crimes don't screw a person up for life.


I don't know. I never understood this weakness of conviction you exhibit that makes you willing to abandon rule of law.

Ahh nice insult :rolleyes:

Well, don't you think it's strange how, when it suits you, you seem to know oh so much about all Americans' short-comings, yet are clueless on so many other things? What is that? "Cherry-picking?" Selective memory loss? What?

Yes, because not knowing what happened in some US shithole no one outside Florida cares about certainly destroys Sihuhue's ability to claim to know anything else about the US.

Killing a pedophile is only justifiable if you're in a situation in which doing so will prevent further victimization of children.

A society where everybody is going off enforcing their own idea of justice can not function. Order and procedural justice must be maintained. I mean, sure, it's easy to say vigilanteism is justifiable in the case of pedophiles. But where do you draw the line?

Homophobes use just the same sort of reasoning to justify murdering gays. And a few decades ago, racists used it to justify murdering African-Americans.

Or, what if a person is falsely accused of being a pedophile? Is his life without value with regard to the law, even before his trial?! People have a tendency to believe somebody is guilty of a crime just because a lot of other people are under the same impression. 'A person has been accused of a crime, and he seems like the kind of person who would commit the crime. Therefore, he's guilty.' It's unfortunate, but people that's the way most people think. Everybody assumed Michael Jackson was guilty before they even saw any of the evidence. (He very well might be -- I just don't know, because I haven't seen any of the evidence. Only the investigators and the people involved in the trial have.) Allowing murdering of pedophiles would lead to innocent people who've been mistakenly accused being murdered.

There are over six billion people in the world, and they all have a different idea of morality. Allowing people to personally enact vengeance upon anybody they consider sufficiently immoral would lead to mob justice, and public opinion would become an executioner. Allowing murdering of pedophiles would be a heartbeat away from allowing public lynchings.

Then again, don't listen to me. After all, I'm just...A WITCH!!!!

Non pedophiles should donate their first bornes to pedophile organisations to make up for all the years of opression.

Where'd I leave that cinder block...

Well, don't you think it's strange how, when it suits you, you seem to know oh so much about all Americans' short-comings, yet are clueless on so many other things? What is that? "Cherry-picking?" Selective memory loss? What?
Name one instance where I have picked up on some local new in the US and then run with it. When I pick on the US's 'short-comings', it is always about bigger issues, like your foreign policy. I don't really keep 'current' on every little thing you people consider newsworthy.

It is disappointing to see a thread like this exist, on top of that, it is disappointing to see such a spin on it as to be only black and white. Do not repay evil with evil, because it does not bring justice, it only brings more evil. Sure, there should be punishment for their heinous crimes, but that is not a matter for your hands or anyone outside the law. To say that because I answer no to this question makes me a supporter of pedophilia is ignorance in the most basic level possible. It's like saying I am pro-abortion because im pro-choice.

Seriously, is this 'unable to form a coherent sentence day' or something? Or is my tolerance level for it just very low?

It's simple Sin, it's well known we have the "ugly americans"

There are many times you come off as the ugly canadian.

@ Eutrusca: This is exactly my point. If what you advocate is allowed to happen, this sort of thing will occur a hundred-fold, I can assure you. Hell, people might make up stories to get back grudges - imagine in a divorce case, a wife alledges her husband touched little Timmy. A false accusation but under your form of justice the husband would be dead. And then once paedophiles are targeted, who's next? Rapists perhaps - and the cycle begins anew.

There has to be civilised justice and a proper system, or we'd just go arpund shooting and stabbing anyone who we thought had wronged us and devolve into mob violence.
I'm not "advocating" anything. All I'm saying is that anyone who molests one of my grandchildren will have to answer to me. And make no mistake about it, I will kill him/her. Period.

I have no illusions about the possible consequences of doing so and am perfectly prepared to accept whatever the judicial system decides is an appropriate punishment.

I totally disagree.
Then who needs a legal system...clearly, vigilantes can take care of things quite well. Let's dissolve the courts and leave justice up to those who don't mind getting their hands dirty.

Yes mistaken identities happen.

So you are ok with the innocent being brutally murdered as long as pedophiles are killed. What a wonderful paragon of justice you are.

I don't think going round killing ex-paedophiles (ones that the government deems fit to be re-entered into society) is the right thing to do at all these are sick people and sick people are cured not killed

This reminds me of the agree mob who attacked someone because she was listed as a paediatrician: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/901723.stm

Actually it's more then that. A convicted killer explain it as this. When you kill and adult and even a teenager; they have a chance to defend themselves. A child does not.

A strange code of "ethics" they have. Point still remains even other criminals doen't like them.

Sinuhue has already given you a boot about your inability to form coherent sentences, hence I shall just try to respond to what I think you wanted to say: The people in the prisons are incompetent as they are unable to guarantee the safety of the inmates and are unable to prevent the leackage of why the convicts are there.

Many crimes don't screw a person up for life.

You mean like the murder you talk so fondly of?

Ahh nice insult :rolleyes:

If you think that's an insult, I suggest you grow some skin.

as opposed to the days you're really tolerant? Yeah-the level is low today.

Just avoid making the condescending generalizations that include me as I'm taking things personally today.
Well that's no bloody fun!

And you're right, I'm particularly snappish today. *SNAP*!

the world would be a much better place if all child hating molestors were dead so yes they should be round up and summarily executed...theres no hope for rehabilitation except in a rare case... the psychiatric community cant fix it....so why should children be at risk..... these fuckers have no rights... if you harm a child like that you sign away any and all rights to be on this earth..you scum..

It is disappointing to see a thread like this exist, on top of that, it is disappointing to see such a spin on it as to be only black and white. Do not repay evil with evil, because it does not bring justice, it only brings more evil. Sure, there should be punishment for their heinous crimes, but that is not a matter for your hands or anyone outside the law. To say that because I answer no to this question makes me a supporter of pedophilia is ignorance in the most basic level possible. It's like saying I am pro-choice because im pro-abortion.
Killing a pedophile does not bring "more evil." It eliminates the possibility of even more evil from the one elminiated.

Killing a pedophile is only justifiable if you're in a situation in which doing so will prevent further victimization of children.

That's were I stand. If I see it going on, it'll end up messy. Otherwise I'll support the judicial system as long as it continues to tag, encarcerate and deprivilege the offenders.

Ahh nice insult :rolleyes:
Like the one where you accused everyone who didn't support extrajudicial killings of pedophiles of feeling sorry them?

I don't think going round killing ex-paedophiles (ones that the government deems fit to be re-entered into society) is the right thing to do at all these are sick people and sick people are cured not killed

This reminds me of the agree mob who attacked someone because she was listed as a paediatrician: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/901723.stm
THEY CANT BE CURED...NOR DO THEY WANT TO BE...THATS THE PROBLEM... WHY SHOULd children be at risk because these assholes think they should do this..and crybabies feel sorry for them :mad:

Well that's no bloody fun!

And you're right, I'm particularly snappish today. *SNAP*!


I've already had to use my tongue on one person today, dont make me use it on you.

Killing a pedophile does not bring "more evil." It eliminates the possibility of even more evil from the one elminiated.

Because murder is so not evil. Nice clarification!

:upyours: Saddam Hussien had it RIGHT!

The law under him was, whatever crime you commit, you get that crime commeted to you.

So any rapists, and pedophiles, were raped themselves and then executed. Thats what those rape rooms were really all about, the people in them were getting what they fucking deserved. Anyone who rapes and molests, should be raped an molested themselves because rape is not a sexual crime, rape is crime of dominance, they force people into intercourse because it gives them a feeling of power, so if they are raped, they will feel twice as worse, and then to ad insult to injury, they should be exectued. by a stoning.
That would send a clear message, and it would be a proper punnishment.

Pedo's and Rapists are not normal human beings, they are not like you or me, they are lower forms of life, THEY ENJOY CAUSING PAIN AND SUFFERING on other human biengs. and other animals infact. The only way to solve the problem is eliminate them from the human gene pool by having a mass extermination of these people in the way described above.
:upyours: :mad: :upyours: :mad: :upyours: :sniper: :mp5: :upyours: :mad:

I don't think going round killing ex-paedophiles (ones that the government deems fit to be re-entered into society) is the right thing to do at all these are sick people and sick people are cured not killed.
Personally, I feel very sorry that they're "sick people." It's a shame to think that someone is that sick. But personally, I don't give a shit whether they're sick, demented, evil, or anything else. They molest one of my grandchildren, or attempt to molest any child in my presence, they're going to die. Period.

Should killing pedophiles be justifiable homicide?

Shouldn't people just be able to look at pedophile registries and go kill who ever is on the registry? I mean what pedophiles do is worse than murder. They have no conscience they are not human. If you killed them off you would be doing the community a favor. Many cases of “vigilantism” that have been brought to trail have demonstrated that juries side with the pedophile “vigilantes” even when the pedophile “vigilantes” confess to “crimes” they committed against pedophiles.

No one can punish you for stating how you feel so how about it. Should killing pedophiles say by looking them up in pedophile registries hunting them down and killing them be considered justifiable homicide?

Also to note: Any one who votes no is a pedophile or a pedophile supporter and just as bad a pedophile. I made the poll public so that we will know who you are.

You say that "no one can punish you for stating how you feel", but then inform us that everyone who looks at this poll can see how you voted, as well as informing us that "anyone who votes no is a pedophile or a pedophile supporter and just as bad as a pedophile". Yay, hypocrisy in action!

Murder is murder, no matter if you're "improving the community". Some people are labelled pedophiles because of misunderstandings, like alcohol-or drug-induced acts of sexual intercourse. So say this is Jack's circumstance: that he was given a drug by his under-age girlfriend, had sex with her, her parents found out and had him charged. You say it's all right for someone to kick down Jack's door and kill him, just because of one mistake that wasn't technically his fault?

I'm not saying that pedophilia as a whole is an excusable crime- yes, it is a crime- but neither is the premeditated murder of one who is a pedophile. We are given those registers to make sure that we are aware of who could hurt our children, not so we can go on a killing spree. Consequently, I'm not voting in your poll. If my opinion is going to have me slapped with your ignorant label, I'd rather have my say without the sting, thanks.

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You should know that no one reads posts with those smilies in them, as they do reflect quite poorly on the poster who used them.

Killing a pedophile does not bring "more evil." It eliminates the possibility of even more evil from the one elminiated.

Funny, I thought murder was evil.

I think that given the increased risk of them killing a child everyone who gets behind the wheel of a car after having any alcohol at all should be shot in the head without trial.

Saddam Hussien had it RIGHT!

The law under him was, whatever crime you commit, you get that crime commeted to you.

So any rapists, and pedophiles, were raped themselves and then executed. Thats what those rape rooms were really all about, the people in them were getting what they fucking deserved. Anyone who rapes and molests, should be raped an molested themselves because rape is not a sexual crime, rape is crime of dominance, they force people into intercourse because it gives them a feeling of power, so if they are raped, they will feel twice as worse, and then to ad insult to injury, they should be exectued. by a stoning.
That would send a clear message, and it would be a proper punnishment.

Pedo's and Rapists are not normal human beings, they are not like you or me, they are lower forms of life, THEY ENJOY CAUSING PAIN AND SUFFERING on other human biengs. and other animals infact. The only way to solve the problem is eliminate them from the human gene pool by having a mass extermination of these people in the way described above.
Saddam, and his sons were rapists and murders, period. They couldn't have cared less whether someone they raped was in fact themselves a rapist.

Or, what about this situation.

I don't like that guy. I want to kill him. I shoot him with a gun in broad daylight.

"He was a pedophile! Prove he wasn't."

That same thing happened in Salem. Just replace the word 'Witch' with 'Pedophile'.

I'm also curious what the cutoff is for statutory rape being cause for homocide.

Situation 1) A 17 year old girl tells you she's 20, you have consensual sex.

Situation 2) You kidnap and rape a 5 year old.

...Same crime? Equally worthy of being murdered?

This is why you need to follow established legal procedures.

THEY CANT BE CURED...NOR DO THEY WANT TO BE...THATS THE PROBLEM... WHY SHOULd children be at risk because these assholes think they should do this..and crybabies feel sorry for them :mad:

think of it as brainwashing only easier because as you put it THEY is not normal human behaviour

Saddam, and his sons were rapists and murders, period. They couldn't have cared less whether someone they raped was in fact themselves a rapist.

But being a murderer was good just a few posts ago. What's changed? You suddenly realise murder was bad or something?

Well, don't you think it's strange how, when it suits you, you seem to know oh so much about all Americans' short-comings, yet are clueless on so many other things? What is that? "Cherry-picking?" Selective memory loss? What?

Cherry-picking is a term used in basketball to describe players who, instead of playing defense, hang around half-court so that their teammates, upon securing the ball, pass it to them for a wide-open lay-up or dunk. that's cherry-picking. hehe

Funny, I thought murder was evil.
No, silly. Murder is love! Meat is evil.

It is disappointing to see a thread like this exist, on top of that, it is disappointing to see such a spin on it as to be only black and white. Do not repay evil with evil, because it does not bring justice, it only brings more evil. Sure, there should be punishment for their heinous crimes, but that is not a matter for your hands or anyone outside the law. To say that because I answer no to this question makes me a supporter of pedophilia is ignorance in the most basic level possible. It's like saying I am pro-abortion because im pro-choice.

Yes and it feasable that one of us stupid americans could believe the crap I just posted. In truth my sexual interest lies only in the young. No matter how any adult poses it never get's me up. I am kinda a pedophile although I do not fit the new definition in the DSMV 4.

As to the Miami Dade commisioner both him and the person who posted the signs will likely never be brought to justice.

http://www.nbc6.net/news/4403515/detail.html

It is to note the death threats and general harrassment where commonly directed towards Clovis Claxton and nothing was ever done same happens to all on the registry. Thing is those who bother to register are usually better than the ones who don't. Those who harrass those on the registry are doing a diservice to the registry.

Yes and it feasable that one of us stupid americans could believe the crap I just posted. In truth my sexual interest lies only in the young. No matter how any adult poses it never get's me up. I am kinda a pedophile although I do not fit the new definition in the DSMV 4.

Do get help now before you ruin someone else's and your life. Now.

Personally, I feel very sorry that they're "sick people." It's a shame to think that someone is that sick. But personally, I don't give a shit whether they're sick, demented, evil, or anything else. They molest one of my grandchildren, or attempt to molest any child in my presence, they're going to die. Period.
I can understand killing one if they are holding a child in front of younand are about to hurt them, or if they have already hurt the child. But killing someone who is listed as a pedophile before they have hurt a child in your community is like killing a dog because he might get rabies and bite someone. It just doesn't make sense to me. I don't know, maybe I don't side with the idea just because I haven't had kids yet.

No
absolutely unconditionally no

not because i love or support pedos, but because justifying murders presents a truly slippery slope into ethical badlands we do not want to enter

who can claim enough foresight to decide which individuals get to live and who gets to die? i think anyone claiming the ability to make such decisions needs a quick and hard realitycheck.

i actually work in a maximum security psychiatric hospital known for it's treatment programs for the most dangerous people in the country.

I know the damage some individuals wreck on society first hand, but even so -the solution will never be to start passing laws saying we can kill off people we don't have use for. It all tastes too much of past regimes like the roman empire and nazi germany to be a good solution.

Where on earth the solution to the problem of dangerous and antisocial individuals will be found is still quite uncharted territory, and investing the energy trying to figure out the basis and phenomenology of conditions like pedophilia and psychopathy is a sounder way to spend ones energies than to want for easy solutions like murder.

Are we talking about pedophiles who concentrate on the 12-17 year olds, or the pedos who concentrate on the 0-12 year olds. Because really they're two totally different groups. Of course, the answer to your question is still no, but I would have little problem chemically castrating the latter.

Because murder is so not evil. Nice clarification!
Murder is against the law, just as is pedophilia. By executing a pedophile, I am affirming that it is the "greater evil." I don't mind if they try pedophiles in a court of law. I'm just saying that if a pedophile molests one of my grandchildren, or if a pedophile attempts to molest anyone's child in my presence, they're going to die. I thought I made that abundantly clear.

So you are ok with the innocent being brutally murdered as long as pedophiles are killed. What a wonderful paragon of justice you are.

No actually I'm not I posted the original post to get people riled up.

Where'd I leave that cinder block...
Here you go. *hands Megaloria a cinder block*

Murder is against the law, just as is pedophilia. By executing a pedophile, I am affirming that it is the "greater evil." I don't mind if they try pedophiles in a court of law. I'm just saying that if a pedophile molests one of my grandchildren, or if a pedophile attempts to molest anyone's child in my presence, they're going to die. I thought I made that abundantly clear.

So do you feel that muderers should die, too? And do you not feel that you should thus die as well should you commit murder?

I can understand killing one if they are holding a child in front of younand are about to hurt them, or if they have already hurt the child. But killing someone who is listed as a pedophile before they have hurt a child in your community is like killing a dog because he might get rabies and bite someone. It just doesn't make sense to me. I don't know, maybe I don't side with the idea just because I haven't had kids yet.
Despite quoting me, it's apparent that you didn't read what I said in the quote. Nowhere have I ever indicated that I would look up pedophiles in order to execute them.

Are we talking about pedophiles who concentrate on the 12-17 year olds, or the pedos who concentrate on the 0-12 year olds. Because really they're two totally different groups. Of course, the answer to your question is still no, but I would have little problem chemically castrating the latter.

By "chemical castration", do you mean wilting their groin with sulfuric acid?

Just checking.

Do get help now before you ruin someone else's and your life. Now.

There is no cure for sexual interest in the young. In other words there actually isn't help. As per the new DSMV I am not a pedophile I'd need to have either acted on my interest or feel some distress over my attraction.

No
absolutely unconditionally no

not because i love or support pedos, but because justifying murders presents a truly slippery slope into ethical badlands we do not want to enter

who can claim enough foresight to decide which individuals get to live and who gets to die? i think anyone claiming the ability to make such decisions needs a quick and hard realitycheck.

i actually work in a maximum security psychiatric hospital known for it's treatment programs for the most dangerous people in the country.

I know the damage some individuals wreck on society first hand, but even so -the solution will never be to start passing laws saying we can kill off people we don't have use for. It all tastes too much of past regimes like the roman empire and nazi germany to be a good solution.

Where on earth the solution to the problem of dangerous and antisocial individuals will be found is still quite uncharted territory, and investing the energy trying to figure out the basis and phenomenology of conditions like pedophilia and psychopathy is a sounder way to spend ones energies than to want for easy solutions like murder.
Thank God, there's another reasonable person here.

So do you feel that muderers should die, too? And do you not feel that you should thus die as well should you commit murder?
That is up to a court of law. As I have repeatedly stated here, I am quite prepared to accept whatever punishment a court feels I deserve. Actions always have consequences. If we're not prepared to accept them, then we shouldn't take action.

Like the one where you accused everyone who didn't support extrajudicial killings of pedophiles of feeling sorry them?

You confuse me with someone else. I have not said that.

I said I have never understood this "feel sorry for the killer or pedophile" mentality.

I voted no, 'cause the death penalty is not good enough imho.
The molester could be put to forced labors until the kid is grown up and can decide wether he wants him dead, tortured, or forgiven...
Have a nice day.

No actually I'm not I posted the original post to get people riled up.
Admiting to trolling...I wonder if this has already made it into Moderation...

Despite quoting me, it's apparent that you didn't read what I said in the quote. Nowhere have I ever indicated that I would look up pedophiles in order to execute them.
And nowhere did I indicate that you would do such an action. Seeing as you're the only one in this thread that has indicated having a child, I was elaborating on what you said as well as drawing my own point. Take your own advice, please.

There is no cure for sexual interest in the young.

Perhaps not, but there are ways to ensure you do not act upon your perversion.

In other words there actually isn't help. As per the new DSMV I am not a pedophile I'd need to have either acted on my interest or feel some distress over my attraction.

If you do not feel distress, you are more likely to act on it. Do what you can to prevent such a course of events. If not for the sake of the child you are bound to molest and degrade, then for your own.

I voted no, 'cause the death penalty is not good enough imho.
The molester could be put to forced labors.
Yeah. They should be forced to work at a child daycare center, nursery etc....
Without pay of course.

You say that "no one can punish you for stating how you feel", but then inform us that everyone who looks at this poll can see how you voted, as well as informing us that "anyone who votes no is a pedophile or a pedophile supporter and just as bad as a pedophile". Yay, hypocrisy in action!

Murder is murder, no matter if you're "improving the community". Some people are labelled pedophiles because of misunderstandings, like alcohol-or drug-induced acts of sexual intercourse. So say this is Jack's circumstance: that he was given a drug by his under-age girlfriend, had sex with her, her parents found out and had him charged. You say it's all right for someone to kick down Jack's door and kill him, just because of one mistake that wasn't technically his fault?

I'm not saying that pedophilia as a whole is an excusable crime- yes, it is a crime- but neither is the premeditated murder of one who is a pedophile. We are given those registers to make sure that we are aware of who could hurt our children, not so we can go on a killing spree. Consequently, I'm not voting in your poll. If my opinion is going to have me slapped with your ignorant label, I'd rather have my say without the sting, thanks.


Why not take a stand and accept the lable? As many people did for homosexuals blacks and others?

There is no cure for sexual interest in the young. In other words there actually isn't help. As per the new DSMV I am not a pedophile I'd need to have either acted on my interest or feel some distress over my attraction.
Now I am completely weirded out, and I don't think it's just my cold medication.

That is up to a court of law. As I have repeatedly stated here, I am quite prepared to accept whatever punishment a court feels I deserve. Actions always have consequences. If we're not prepared to accept them, then we shouldn't take action.

So, you should be judged by a court of law, but they should not? Because you are better? More worthy? More deserving of justice?

Sinuhue has already given you a boot about your inability to form coherent sentences, hence I shall just try to respond to what I think you wanted to say: The people in the prisons are incompetent as they are unable to guarantee the safety of the inmates and are unable to prevent the leackage of why the convicts are there.


Whatever.

Again the point is the other cons don't like them either.

The fact they seperate them from the general populace says they are trying to protect them.

They don't have prison violence in Europe?


You mean like the murder you talk so fondly of

If you think that's an insult, I suggest you grow some skin.

I love you too.

Why not take a stand and accept the lable? As many people did for homosexuals blacks and others?

because there's nothing inherently awful about being black or gay?

Why not take a stand and accept the lable? As many people did for homosexuals blacks and others?

There is no comparison between homosexuality or skin colour and pedophilia.

I can understand killing one if they are holding a child in front of younand are about to hurt them, or if they have already hurt the child. But killing someone who is listed as a pedophile before they have hurt a child in your community is like killing a dog because he might get rabies and bite someone. It just doesn't make sense to me. I don't know, maybe I don't side with the idea just because I haven't had kids yet.

No one is ever listed as a pedophile before they have been convicted of a crime at least not yet.

Why not take a stand and accept the lable? As many people did for homosexuals blacks and others?
Why not? Because I don't feel I deserve to be labeled as a pedophile or a pedophile-supporter just because I voted one way or another in an Internet poll that has no real sway in the real world, as well as being level-minded enough to think about the circumstances before justifying violence.

All the people who're saying pedophiles are people who need help and need to be rehabilitated..

Even if you can say 'You can't control your sexual preferences'. You most definetely can control your impulses. If you commit an act of sexual molestation on a child -- you have chosen to commit that act, even if you haven't chosen to want to.

Let's not make excuses for our own actions here. If you're attracted to young children, and you never ever act on that attraction -- you have not committed a crime.

The moment you act on that attraction, you are *choosing* to do so. Let's not excuse it as just a 'sickness'. If we don't hold people responsible for choosing to hurt somebody, then anybody who commits any crime is just 'sick'.

Whatever.

Again the point is the other cons don't like them either.

The fact they seperate them from the general populace says they are trying to protect them.

How this has anything to do with some point you are trying to make is beyond me.

They don't have prison violence in Europe?

They don't see it as a bad thing in the US?

I love you too.

Please don't.

Thank God, there's another reasonable person here.
I see the post you quoted as being totally UNreasonable. "Just let the children and their families this dementoid affects suffer while we're trying to figure out what his problem is." I don't think so!

No one is ever listed as a pedophile before they have been convicted of a crime at least not yet.
Does no one in this thread read? I said anyone who is already listed as a pedophile who HAS NOT YET done anything to get themselves convicted in a new community.

You confuse me with someone else. I have not said that.

I said I have never understood this "feel sorry for the killer or pedophile" mentality.
Re-read your post: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10513128&postcount=34



Yes, because treasuring the justice system and rule of law above revenge and mob mentality is so similar to fucking babies. Why, everytime I see a police officer enforcing the law or a judge making sure that rule of law is supreme, I think "baby fucker!".

Actually no it isn't. Why do the prisions have to seperate child preditors from the cons?

You can't cure pedophilia and one that attacks will probably re-offend.

I don't know. I never understood this feel sorry for the killer or pedophile mentality.
It seemed to me, as you were responding directly to what Fass had said, that you were accusing him of having sympathy for killers or pedophiles. Perhaps you intented that to mean that you couldn't understand why pedophiles were separated from the general prison population, as that would be a form of sympathy?:confused:

Clarity in posting helps avoid these mis-readings.

because there's nothing inherently awful about being black or gay?

Than if your not willing to take a stand dispite the insults than maybe through your being pressured into silence you support vigilantie justice against those on the registry.

If we don't hold people responsible for choosing to hurt somebody, then anybody who commits any crime is just 'sick'.
Exactly, but that's the "sensitive" or "politically correct" thing to do! How dare you advocate something not approved by the morality police! Shame!

Exactly, but that's not the "sensitive" or "politically correct" thing to do! How dare you advocate something not approved by the morality police! Shame!

Yes, because being anti-murder is soooo PC.

Specious "slippery slope" argument. Your proof??

I suppose his proof for the slippery slope argument is that society has not always regarded paedophiles (thats the correct spelling by the way, why people drop the a is beyond me) as the most heinous of all criminals. In fact, in cultures such as Ancient Greece, there were traditions of boy-love. Now, i'm not arguing about that being healthy (it's quite obviously sodding not, pardon the pun) or right. But...what happens when society starts judging jaywalking as the most heinous crime? Societal shifts of perception do happen, after all. You'd already have the mandate from this paedophilia hoo-hah to justify mob law there as well.

No. For many many reasons.

I see the post you quoted as being totally UNreasonable. "Just let the children and their families this dementoid affects suffer while we're trying to figure out what his problem is." I don't think so!
You are putting words in my mouth. I never said anything like that.

How this has anything to do with some point you are trying to make is beyond me.


Sorry then don't bother.


They don't see it as a bad thing in the US?

Ahh so maybe those running the prisions here aren't as incompetant as you suggested.


Please don't.

Don't worry. Even if I was gay I wouldn't.

I voted no, 'cause the death penalty is not good enough imho.
The molester could be put to forced labors until the kid is grown up and can decide wether he wants him dead, tortured, or forgiven...
Have a nice day.

1) forced labour isn't profitable due to the security you have to run to stop riots

2) you want a paedophile to receive no rehabilitation at all? think what a man will do after years in a cage with a mental problem festering in there mind

Ahh so maybe those running the prisions here aren't as incompetant as you suggested.

Oh, they are, if they have to resort to separation to keep them safe.

Don't worry. Even if I was gay I wouldn't.

Don't feel too bad. Heterosexuality may be inferior to homosexuality, but it's nothing to be ashamed of.

Yes, because being anti-murder is soooo PC.
It is if that means that pedophiles continue to have the freedom to destroy the lives of additional children.

Perhaps not, but there are ways to ensure you do not act upon your perversion.



If you do not feel distress, you are more likely to act on it. Do what you can to prevent such a course of events. If not for the sake of the child you are bound to molest and degrade, then for your own.

Yea by not not acting them. Shall we cut of your dick to prevent you from raping women?

If I do not feel distress I am less likely as I have to come to recognise and deal with my interest instead of feeling that I'm a monster and than later one day snapping and doing something harmfull to a child.

You confuse me with someone else. I have not said that.

I said I have never understood this "feel sorry for the killer or pedophile" mentality.

for me, being against the death penalty (whether meted out by the court system or a lynch mob) is not about feeling sorry for the perp... rather it's a stance based on logic.

If you like, I'll list the reasons for you in a (hopefully) concise and comprehensive outline of sorts.

Oh, so now I'm a predo supporter, thanks mate.

Stramngly enough, just becuase I balive in the rule of law and that I'm against the death penilty for any crime dosn't mean I support predophylia. Thinking murder dosn't make me a predo supporter eathier.

What predos do is sickeningly wrong and should be treated as such. A good 30 years in jail is enough punishment, declaring open season and killing them is not.

Perhaps because we are trying to base our laws on a concept of Justice that doesn't allow for excessive punishment? Perhaps because the paedophile hasn't killed anyone, and so ending his life would be punishing them beyond their crime, a practice that several bloody revolutions were fought to end in Europe just a couple centuries ago?

correct.

It is if that means that pedophiles continue to have the freedom to destroy the lives of additional children.


Or are treated like victims because of their 'disease'.

It is if that means that pedophiles continue to have the freedom to destroy the lives of additional children.

So, then the murderers of murderers are also excused if they do what you do? I mean, if you commit murder because you think you are entitled, why aren't they when they return the favour?

Killing a pedophile is only justifiable if you're in a situation in which doing so will prevent further victimization of children.

A society where everybody is going off enforcing their own idea of justice can not function. Order and procedural justice must be maintained. I mean, sure, it's easy to say vigilanteism is justifiable in the case of pedophiles. But where do you draw the line?

Homophobes use just the same sort of reasoning to justify murdering gays. And a few decades ago, racists used it to justify murdering African-Americans.

Or, what if a person is falsely accused of being a pedophile? Is his life without value with regard to the law, even before his trial?! People have a tendency to believe somebody is guilty of a crime just because a lot of other people are under the same impression. 'A person has been accused of a crime, and he seems like the kind of person who would commit the crime. Therefore, he's guilty.' It's unfortunate, but people that's the way most people think. Everybody assumed Michael Jackson was guilty before they even saw any of the evidence. (He very well might be -- I just don't know, because I haven't seen any of the evidence. Only the investigators and the people involved in the trial have.) Allowing murdering of pedophiles would lead to innocent people who've been mistakenly accused being murdered.

There are over six billion people in the world, and they all have a different idea of morality. Allowing people to personally enact vengeance upon anybody they consider sufficiently immoral would lead to mob justice, and public opinion would become an executioner. Allowing murdering of pedophiles would be a heartbeat away from allowing public lynchings.

Then again, don't listen to me. After all, I'm just...A WITCH!!!!

Seconded! Specially the last bit

*Dons pointy hat and wart*

Someone rapes me ima rape em back.

Realizing that many of you actually are serious makes me feel odd.
Killing the pedophiles doesn't stop paedophilia. Or how do you think people who really are sexually attracted towards children exist?

The crime itself is sickening, probably one of the worst ones that exist, but killing the "evildoers" just doesn't help a thing.

And then, what about 15-year olds who go out with 18-year old boys, because the boys in their class (and other with the same age) are just too immature? Should the 18-year olds be killed too, then? And what about them who get killed though they're innocent?

Re-read your post: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10513128&postcount=34


*snip*

Point taken. Sorry after re-reading that. It doesn't make much sense. It is deleted.

Sorry but I had a rotten night and a rotten morning.

I will withdraw for few hours.

Capital punishment, abortion and euthanaisa is abhorrent and war is justifiable only in some cases. Why is it the US and Japan are the only developed (1st world) countries who condone capital punishment? We need to get out of the dark ages...

No punishment that we inflict on the wicked can ever compare to God's justice, nor do we have the fundamental right to inflict that "type" of justice unless there is a clear and present danger that other lives will be taken.

Call me a "pedophile lover" all you want but I will not compromise my priciples to secular pressure

Should killing pedophiles be justifiable homicide?

Also to note: Any one who votes no is a pedophile or a pedophile supporter and just as bad a pedophile. I made the poll public so that we will know who you are.

Clearly something not correct in the minds of these individuals who seek pleasure this way. Shouldn't we be examining why these people do what they do in order to possibly prevent further suffering from these types of people? Killing the paedophiles solves nothing, apart from immediate cravings for revenge. I think to precipitate some sort of prevention (decrease numbers of individuals doing this shit), we should study them and develop suitable psychoanalytical or pharmaceutical solutions.

It is if that means that pedophiles continue to have the freedom to destroy the lives of additional children.
Now it's a PC quality to allow paedophiles* free to rape children? You really hate the concept of PC don't you? On top of completely misunderstanding it.



*isn't pedophile the US spelling?

Yea by not not acting them. Shall we cut of your dick to prevent you from raping women?

I would never dream of raping anyone, much less women.

If I do not feel distress I am less likely as I have to come to recognise and deal with my interest instead of feeling that I'm a monster and than later one day snapping and doing something harmfull to a child.

I do not believe you. If you truly were honest in saying you do not wish to harm children, then you would do everything in your power to prevent it. It seems though that you aren't.

As you can see in creating the safe invirement in the initial post I bought out of the woodwork some very interesting charactors.

Good people are so easy to munipulate.

You are putting words in my mouth. I never said anything like that.
I know. I was indulging myself in a bit of hyperbole. If it seemed that I was indicating you said that, I apologize. I would expect that you would recognize a statement like that as being reducto ad absurdum.

Oh, they are, if they have to resort to separation to keep them safe.

The guys doing the job are doing the best they can. The fact the state doesn't give them enough to do the job is a different discussion.


Don't feel too bad. Heterosexuality may be inferior to homosexuality, but it's nothing to be ashamed of.

:D

;)

*isn't pedophile the US spelling?

*Incorrect spelling, as it comes from the ancient greek and means "Lover of children" - Pardon me if i sound snippy, but the ancient greeks didn't drop the A.

Than if your not willing to take a stand dispite the insults than maybe through your being pressured into silence you support vigilantie justice against those on the registry.

I'm not sure I read this right (nor am I sure you wrote it right), but here we go anyway. Silence is not support, but pedophiles aren't even on many peoples' minds at all when they're thinking of "who do I support or not". Blacks were discriminated against because of their origins and physical traits. Gays because of their sexual habits, yes, but not habits that were inherently harmful to non-consenters. There's no reason to combat the killing of supposed pedophiles for me because I seriously don't know any. This is becoming difficult to put into words correctly. Pedophiles are a criminal element. Blacks and gays are not. I don't ever think of supporting, silently or otherwise, any group or individual who are loathed because of a crime.

Point taken. Sorry after re-reading that. It doesn't make much sense. It is deleted.

Sorry but I had a rotten night and a rotten morning.

I will withdraw for few hours.
I should do the same. I'm feverish, drugged up, and extremely snappish. I apologise for biting your head off on numerous occasions.

No apologies for Eut, though...he is a sort of mutant hydra...when you bite his head off, another one grows back instead of a whole bunch of them...

I would never dream of raping anyone, much less women.



I do not believe you. If you truly were honest in saying you do not wish to harm children, then you would do everything in your power to prevent it. It seems though that you aren't.

And you suggest that some shrink has the power to help me stop? Psycologist religious councilers etc. are loons.

Behavior is a product of beliefs any one who bases there psychological proffession otherwise is a screw up.

Values beliefs and priorities detirmine what actions people take not psodo science. Those in the mental health profession are more likely to increase the problem not reduce it.

*Incorrect spelling, as it comes from the ancient greek and means "Lover of children" - Pardon me if i sound snippy, but the ancient greeks didn't drop the A.
Hmmm...I'm pretty sure I spell it right most of the time. What about foetus? Or is that out to lunch?

Behavior is a product of beliefs any one who bases there psychological proffession otherwise is a screw up

Do you know anyone with mental health issues or who has worked in the mental health area? I do to both, and quite frankly you are talking through your posterior.

As you can see in creating the safe invirement in the initial post I bought out of the woodwork some very interesting charactors.

Good people are so easy to munipulate.

So...you're trolling?

I'm not sure I read this right (nor am I sure you wrote it right), but here we go anyway. Silence is not support, but pedophiles aren't even on many peoples' minds at all when they're thinking of "who do I support or not". Blacks were discriminated against because of their origins and physical traits. Gays because of their sexual habits, yes, but not habits that were inherently harmful to non-consenters. There's no reason to combat the killing of supposed pedophiles for me because I seriously don't know any. This is becoming difficult to put into words correctly. Pedophiles are a criminal element. Blacks and gays are not. I don't ever think of supporting, silently or otherwise, any group or individual who are loathed because of a crime.

If you are suggesting that all those who have the interest act on it you are wrong.

I know. I was indulging myself in a bit of hyperbole. If it seemed that I was indicating you said that, I apologize. I would expect that you would recognize a statement like that as being reducto ad absurdum.
Don't worry, Eut...that's how I recognise ALL your statements:p

Now it's a PC quality to allow paedophiles* free to rape children? You really hate the concept of PC don't you? On top of completely misunderstanding it.

*isn't pedophile the US spelling?
* yes

The PC approach always has such sympathy for the perpetrator that the victim seems to have been forgotten. I don't "completely misunderstand" the purpose of "PC-speak." It's an attempt to alter the language in order to manipulate people's concepts to a much more "liberal" approach to virtually everything.

Now I am completely weirded out, and I don't think it's just my cold medication.

you arent supposed to sip that from a martini glass

Hmmm...I'm pretty sure I spell it right most of the time. What about foetus? Or is that out to lunch?

Actually, that one, America got right, the original latin IS Fetus, and us crazy Brits came along and added an O for some reason.

* yes

The PC approach always has such sympathy for the perpetrator that the victim seems to have been forgotten. I don't "completely misunderstand" the purpose of "PC-speak." It's an attempt to alter the language in order to manipulate people's concepts to a much more "liberal" approach to virtually everything.
And therefore is all bad. Well, let's just be anti-PC and start using the n word again! Yeehaw!

Your version of PC does not reflect the reality. So when you rail about 'PC this' and 'PC that', I'll keep that in mind.

So...you're trolling?

No munipulating

Look at the vote nearlly 30% support vigilantie justice in a safe invirament.

Would I have gotten the same responce if I didn't start with a supportive post?

Don't worry, Eut...that's how I recognise ALL your statements:p
Why am I not surprised? Actually, I wasn't worried at all. :D

The PC approach always has such sympathy for the perpetrator that the victim seems to have been forgotten. I don't "completely misunderstand" the purpose of "PC-speak." It's an attempt to alter the language in order to manipulate people's concepts to a much more "liberal" approach to virtually everything.

So, the goal of PC with regards to using the word "African-American" was to rid negative stereotypes associated with earlier words used...in your world, the African-American was the perpetrator?

And you suggest that some shrink has the power to help me stop? Psycologist religious councilers etc. are loons.

Behavior is a product of beliefs any one who bases there psychological proffession otherwise is a screw up.

Values beliefs and priorities detirmine what actions people take not psodo science. Those in the mental health profession are more likely to increase the problem not reduce it.

You are in denial. I do so hope you find the help you need before something awful happens.

Actually, that one, America got right, the original latin IS Fetus, and us crazy Brits came along and added an O for some reason.
Whew. At least I know I didn't make it up myself:)

No munipulating

Look at the vote nearlly 30% support vigilantie justice in a safe invirament.

Would I have gotten the same responce if I didn't start with a supportive post?
Who knows, but 70% still diagree with you.

Should killing pedophiles be justifiable homicide?

Shouldn't people just be able to look at pedophile registries and go kill who ever is on the registry? I mean what pedophiles do is worse than murder. They have no conscience they are not human. If you killed them off you would be doing the community a favor. Many cases of “vigilantism” that have been brought to trail have demonstrated that juries side with the pedophile “vigilantes” even when the pedophile “vigilantes” confess to “crimes” they committed against pedophiles.

No one can punish you for stating how you feel so how about it. Should killing pedophiles say by looking them up in pedophile registries hunting them down and killing them be considered justifiable homicide?

Also to note: Any one who votes no is a pedophile or a pedophile supporter and just as bad a pedophile. I made the poll public so that we will know who you are.

I don't believe private citizens should be empowered to kill based on their opinions. However, I do believe that sex crimes (such as child rape) should carry a mandatory minimum life sentence with no possibility of parole. The fact that ANY rapist is ever allowed to walk free disgusts me. I honestly cannot blame anybody who is enraged by a system where a child rapist can spend less time in prison than somebody who sold pot. I can't blame them for feeling that the penal system is providing precious little justice.

No munipulating

Look at the vote nearlly 30% support vigilantie justice in a safe invirament.

Would I have gotten the same responce if I didn't start with a supportive post?Phew, this was so clear but somewhere at page 6 I really started thinking that you were serious. And to answer the question... probably yes. People here seem to be able to think for themselves. You, probably, really weren't manipulating that much people.

1. And therefore is all bad. Well, let's just be anti-PC and start using the n word again! Yeehaw!

2. Your version of PC does not reflect the reality. So when you rail about 'PC this' and 'PC that', I'll keep that in mind.
1. What were we saying about reducto ad absurdem?

2. Perhaps you would be so good as to enlighten me then?

I don't believe private citizens should be empowered to kill based on their opinions. However, I do believe that sex crimes (such as child rape) should carry a mandatory minimum life sentence with no possibility of parole. The fact that ANY rapist is ever allowed to walk free disgusts me. I honestly cannot blame anybody who is enraged by a system where a child rapist can spend less time in prison than somebody who sold pot. I can't blame them for feeling that the penal system is providing precious little justice.
Completely agree with you bottle.

You are in denial. I do so hope you find the help you need before something awful happens.

You believe in deniel. You need help.

So, the goal of PC with regards to using the word "African-American" was to rid negative stereotypes associated with earlier words used...in your world, the African-American was the perpetrator?

Do you fellas perpetually sit here post-arguing? How many posts do you guys make a day? Whats the record? Is your 'F5' key faded yet?

No munipulating

Look at the vote nearlly 30% support vigilantie justice in a safe invirament.

Would I have gotten the same responce if I didn't start with a supportive post?
Let me translate:

Munipulating: the glossing over of faults during municipal re-elections, comes from the concept of 'gold-plating'.

Invirament: Literally, 'the inverse of the environment', meaning a poisoned, and unsustainable place.

If you are suggesting that all those who have the interest act on it you are wrong.

No, you don't all act on it, but it's still an element to be considered. Many pedophiles probably never intended to act on it. It starts in the same place, no matter how far they carry it out. It's commendable to NOT act on such impulses, but still is a warning sign nonetheless. Maybe I DO know some pedophiles who haven't acted on it yet, but if they can deal with it themselves and lock it away, then that's fine. pedophiles shouldn't expect showers of support and pity when they confess they have such urges.

1. What were we saying about reducto ad absurdem?

2. Perhaps you would be so good as to enlighten me then?

1. But surely you reduced the entire concept of Political Correctness down to "sympathy for the perpetrator"?
2. Be an idea, but it's not like a religion, there's no Bible...

You believe in deniel. You need help.

What is your actual point of this whole facade? Some sort of twisted sociological experiment perhaps? Your arguments often seem ill-founded and not backed up by evidence.

1. What were we saying about reducto ad absurdem?

2. Perhaps you would be so good as to enlighten me then?
That would necesitate you being willing to accept another viewpoint. On this issue, I know that is impossible.

Do you fellas perpetually sit here post-arguing? How many posts do you guys make a day? Whats the record? Is your 'F5' key faded yet?

Perpetually? No. Unless i'm insomniac i sit here for an hour as my food cooks, then go off and do something far less soul destroying instead.

Do you sit here for hours gazing at people post arguing?

Do you fellas perpetually sit here post-arguing? How many posts do you guys make a day? Whats the record? Is your 'F5' key faded yet?
Some people do, Eucustria, Fass....

And what would you say about not killing pedos but simply cutting off their pennises and balls? And for the knowledge of others, tattoing on pedos' foreheads "im a babyfucker"? IMO pedos should be killed, theyre not humans, but dickthinking animals. Dura lex sed lex should our motto.

:eek: :mp5: :sniper:

Do you fellas perpetually sit here post-arguing? How many posts do you guys make a day? Whats the record? Is your 'F5' key faded yet?
That you would even ask this shows you are new here.

I got to go see my Shrink. The great Phillip Zeppitello here in Syracuse here pretty soon.

I'll be starting a debate as to what it actually is that harms children when it comes to adult child sex later.

I was expecting 80 yes 20 no. still 30 70 is pretty bad.

Completely agree with you bottle.
Thanks, but I just realized that I'm not sure I really answered the question. I kind of wussed out and side-stepped it, didn't I? So let's see if I can do better:

If I had a child, and that child was raped, and I knew who did it, and that person EVER was allowed out of prison, I would hunt that person down and kill them. I would be prepared to go to jail for doing this, and I would be prepared to face the death penalty if that was the sentence I received. But I would still do it.

So, the goal of PC with regards to using the word "African-American" was to rid negative stereotypes associated with earlier words used...in your world, the African-American was the perpetrator?
LOL! If you believe that, you have never read any of my posts about racism. Kinda sad, actually.

"Politically Correct" is derived from the term "Correct Political Orientation" It was first delivered in a speech by Chairman Mao tse Tung at the Yenin Rally in "Celebration of International Labor Day" on May 1st, 1939. "It was used with effectiveness by the Red Guard during the Chinese Cultural Revolution in order to foster conformity in thought and speech."

Perpetually? No. Unless i'm insomniac i sit here for an hour as my food cooks, then go off and do something far less soul destroying instead.

Do you sit here for hours gazing at people post arguing?

Meant to quote Eutrusca, sorry clicked the wrong post. No, unfortunately, I aint got that much spare time. And, by the time I've typed in me response, further responses and insults go by and my post is usually not in sync with evry1 elses.

Should killing pedophiles be justifiable homicide?

If it's before the trial or if it affected you Go ahead, I would never convict you if I was on the Jury.


Shouldn't people just be able to look at pedophile registries and go kill who ever is on the registry? I mean what pedophiles do is worse than murder. They have no conscience they are not human. If you killed them off you would be doing the community a favor. Many cases of “vigilantism” that have been brought to trail have demonstrated that juries side with the pedophile “vigilantes” even when the pedophile “vigilantes” confess to “crimes” they committed against pedophiles.
No because you're punishing them after the fact that they already went to jail. Besides some of those people on the 'Registry' are on them for having sex when they were 17 and the other was 16. That's a grey area in my opinion.
If they do it again however, cap them.


No one can punish you for stating how you feel so how about it. Should killing pedophiles say by looking them up in pedophile registries hunting them down and killing them be considered justifiable homicide?

No because that's not Vigilantism that's just Vengence Killing.


Also to note: Any one who votes no is a pedophile or a pedophile supporter and just as bad a pedophile. I made the poll public so that we will know who you are.
This post made me realize that you're just Bloodthirsty, what next you want it to be legal to kill Jaywalkers?


No one can punish you for stating how you feel so how about it.
Any one who votes no is a pedophile or a pedophile supporter and just as bad a pedophile. I made the poll public so that we will know who you are.
Hyprocrite.

Now it's a PC quality to allow paedophiles* free to rape children? You really hate the concept of PC don't you? On top of completely misunderstanding it.



*isn't pedophile the US spelling?

yes, pedophile. This isn't about PC, it's about murdering those who commit major crimes against young children. Frankly, unles done in self-defense or in battle, killing people should be frowned upon. A PC aficionado might call a pedophile an age-barrier-challenged person (hehe)... I'll call them perps, criminals, nutjobs, etc.

Meant to quote Eutrusca, sorry clicked the wrong post. No, unfortunately, I aint got that much spare time. And, by the time I've typed in me response, further responses and insults go by and my post is usually not in sync with evry1 elses.

haha lol lern2play no00b

No because that's not Vigilantism that's just Vengence Killing.

...and vengeance is such a noble motive!

I don't think that we should kill pedophiles because this just stops us making them into social outcasts who are shunned by the rest of society. I think it is better to totally humiliate them everywhere they go than just kill them because then their punishment is ended.

Let me translate:

Munipulating: the glossing over of faults during municipal re-elections, comes from the concept of 'gold-plating'.

Invirament: Literally, 'the inverse of the environment', meaning a poisoned, and unsustainable place.

rofl

Munipulating: The process by which the greek letter Mu became today's letter M.

Invirament: A place void of viruses.

I don't think that we should kill pedophiles because this just stops us making them into social outcasts who are shunned by the rest of society. I think it is better to totally humiliate them everywhere they go than just kill them because then their punishment is ended.

are you seriously suggesting that we use discrimination or is this some sort of bad joke

I don't think that we should kill pedophiles because this just stops us making them into social outcasts who are shunned by the rest of society. I think it is better to totally humiliate them everywhere they go than just kill them because then their punishment is ended.

what if they've

a)Paid their penalty (fines/jail/probation etc.)

and

b)Have been successfully rehabilitated

and

c)Are simply trying to get on with life

?

Released cons are guaranteed the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness too.

LOL! If you believe that, you have never read any of my posts about racism. Kinda sad, actually.

"Politically Correct" is derived from the term "Correct Political Orientation" It was first delivered in a speech by Chairman Mao tse Tung at the Yenin Rally in "Celebration of International Labor Day" on May 1st, 1939. "It was used with effectiveness by the Red Guard during the Chinese Cultural Revolution in order to foster conformity in thought and speech."

What, sad that i've never imbibed your words of wisdom on racism? I'm sure i can live without them, no offence intended :p

Nah, i'm sure you aren't racist and i'm sure you aren't sexist, i just grow weary of the label of PC being thrown at anything and everything people (generally on the right wing of society, but there are always exception) disagree with. Suggesting paedophilia is mental condition that needs treatment is not "PC", it's a clinical psychological given. Suggesting the rule of law and order is slightly preferable to mob justice is not "PC", it's a sign of sanity because NO ONE KNOWS WHERE THE MOB WILL LOOK NEXT...ask them witches in Salem if you disagree. Suggesting that crimes may have roots beyond "evil" and "perpetrators" may be the product of environment, not just inherently bad is not "PC", it's wisdom, because only by noticing and correcting those problems will you ever get round to eradicating what causes crime. Locking 'em up or shooting 'em is not and never has been the solution.

And...what...so a word originates somewhere, then it is inherently tied up with where it originated? Interesting...

1. But surely you reduced the entire concept of Political Correctness down to "sympathy for the perpetrator"?
2. Be an idea, but it's not like a religion, there's no Bible...
politically correct (http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/index.pperl?date=20001114)

Dave Tuggle wrote:
Would you care to tackle politically correct? Who originated this phrase? It seems that its usage is now largely sarcastic and pejorative. Was this the purpose for its coinage, or did it begin with usage more compatible with its concept (that is, being polite and sensitive in the use of language that refers to others, particularly minorities)?
Luckily for me, others have already tackled this term. Fred Shapiro, Associate Librarian at Yale Law School, is credited with tracing it back to its roots. Its various meanings and connotations are easily inferred by reading the quotes in the Oxford English Dictionary. (Actually it's in the 3rd volume of an OED "Additions Series" published in 1997.)

As far back as 1793, U.S. Supreme Court Justice James Wilson used the term in his opinion in Chisholm v. Georgia: "The states, rather than the people, for whose sake the states exist, are frequently the objects which attract and arrest our principal attention...Sentiments and expressions of this inaccurate kind prevail in our common, even in our convivial, language...'The United States', instead of the 'People of the United States', is the toast given. This is not politically correct."

And H.V. Morton wrote in 1936: "It has often been asked why [Saint] Paul addressed his converts as 'Galatians'. But is there any other word that could have described so mixed a crowd?...'Galatians', a term that was politically correct, embraced everyone under Roman rule." The term was also used in a 1955 translation of Czeslaw Milosz's The Captive Mind: "A politically correct theme would not have saved him from the critics' attack...because he described the concentration camp as he personally had seen it, not as one was supposed to see it."

These early uses of politically correct can be defined as 'appropriate to the prevailing political or social circumstances; not offensive to a heterogeneous group', a sense that is more general than the current one. But the term frequently referred to language and thought, just as it does today.

By the late 1960s and early 1970s, politically correct was being used by liberals and radicals in the more specific sense 'conforming to a body of liberal or radical opinion characterized by the advocacy of approved causes or views, and often by the rejection of language, behavior, etc., considered discriminatory or offensive'. For example, the president of the National Organization for Women said in 1975 that her organization was moving in the "intellectually and politically correct direction" with regard to the lesbian issue.

By the late 1980s and early 1990s, politically correct was being used by conservatives in a dismissive or sarcastic way. For example, they ridiculed the "euphemistic" language engendered by attempts to be politically correct.

OED quotes from the 1950s and 1960s show that the term correct was frequently used in translations of the writings of Mao Zedong and other Chinese Communists. In these uses, it meant 'conforming to a dominant political or ideological orthodoxy, specifically, Maoist doctrine'. These translations use phrases such as "the correct line of thought or action; the correct political line; an ideologically correct person."

Should killing pedophiles be justifiable homicide?

Shouldn't people just be able to look at pedophile registries and go kill who ever is on the registry? I mean what pedophiles do is worse than murder. They have no conscience they are not human. If you killed them off you would be doing the community a favor. Many cases of “vigilantism” that have been brought to trail have demonstrated that juries side with the pedophile “vigilantes” even when the pedophile “vigilantes” confess to “crimes” they committed against pedophiles.

No one can punish you for stating how you feel so how about it. Should killing pedophiles say by looking them up in pedophile registries hunting them down and killing them be considered justifiable homicide?

Someone's been watching too much TV. This very thing was the subject of an episode of CSI Miami this past monday.:rolleyes:

Now, as to your less than intelligent call for vigilante justice, which is in itself a crime, we have police for a reason. Moving on...

Also to note: Any one who votes no is a pedophile or a pedophile supporter and just as bad a pedophile. I made the poll public so that we will know who you are.

Hmmmm, a bit of projecting here? Trying to find fellow NAMBLA members eh?

(Just because people don't like the idea of killing other people, for any reason, doesn't give you carte blanche to act like a retarded version of Batman)

(Just because people don't like the idea of killing other people, for any reason, doesn't give you carte blanche to act like a retarded version of Batman)

Retarded Batman is the funniest thing I've read all week. Thank you for such a heartwarming and hilarious mental image.

are you seriously suggesting that we use discrimination or is this some sort of bad joke
We already do this. Think about how racists are currently treated in this country. We routinely humiliate them and exclude them and insult their beliefs.

Bad poll. I'm sure you've been properly chastised for that.

However, keep in mind that in the US, child molestors names and addresses are public domain information. Why don't you log off and go kill a few, since you obviously see it as justifiable?

As for me, no. Not justifiable unless I catch someone in the act with my own child. Then all bets are off. I will go to jail for it, but I bet that jury would be hard pressed to convict me.

Bad poll. I'm sure you've been properly chastised for that.

However, keep in mind that in the US, child molestors names and addresses are public domain information. Why don't you log off and go kill a few, since you obviously see it as justifiable?

As for me, no. Not justifiable unless I catch someone in the act with my own child. Then all bets are off. I will go to jail for it, but I bet that jury would be hard pressed to convict me.


Have you ever checked out the site that lists the offenders? I'd hate to be one of them-it gives a color photo of them, their address as well as the year make,model and plate # of their car.

As far as personally- If someone committed a crime against one of my family, I would take care of it at a time and place of my choosing. I'd be ready to accept punishment, although it wouldnt be likely that I'd be caught, much less the existence of any evidence against me. All they'd have is motive, very little else.

But I'm not for waking up one day and selecting a victim from the site and hunting him down.

what if they've

a)Paid their penalty (fines/jail/probation etc.)

and

b)Have been successfully rehabilitated

and

c)Are simply trying to get on with life

?

Released cons are guaranteed the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness too.

Pedophiles can be rehabilitated? Isn't that like trying to change your sexual preference? Pedophiles are monsters who should remain in prison or should be castrated so they never harm another child again.

But I'm not for waking up one day and selecting a victim from the site and hunting him down.

Lol ... well where would be the challenge? Having all their current information takes all the thrill out of the hunt.

Lol ... well where would be the challenge? Having all their current information takes all the thrill out of the hunt.

Well-there is a little more too it than that.

I currently locate people for a living. Just not sex offenders.

In regard to the site-I have no idea how accurate it is or how often/whom updates it. It certainly seems to invite malicious behavior though.

I'm not saying I have any sympathy for those who are profiled on the sites.

While I have nothing against killing paedophiles, in england we have had problems before with vigilante action. innocent people get hurt along with actual paedophiles. paediatricians are also at risk. And sadly thats not a lame joke.

So anyway. killing paedos is fine, but leave it to the professionals.

So anyway. killing paedos is fine, but leave it to the professionals.

:eek:

The Paedofinder General?

http://cyborgcow.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/normal_paedofinder-general.jpg

Pedophiles can be rehabilitated? Isn't that like trying to change your sexual preference? Pedophiles are monsters who should remain in prison or should be castrated so they never harm another child again.

So let me get this straight...

Utracia:
Against
abortion.

For
death penalty
descrimination of homosexuals
mutilation of criminals

So is it all in the timing?

So let me get this straight...

Utracia:
Against
abortion.

For
death penalty
descrimination of homosexuals
mutilation of criminals

So is it all in the timing?
No surprise there. "Pro-life" means "pro- any form of life that helps me impose my personal agenda on others, anti- any form of life that doesn't conform to my personal agenda."

Attacking one in the act of molesting a child should be legal. But using the minimal force necessary to stop them should be applied. Excessive attacking should be prosecuted.

Child molestors and pedophiles should be given life in prison without parole. I was sexually molested at 14 and still 6 years later I am still hurt and badly affected by it. Rape and molestation are some of the worst crimes.

So let me get this straight...

Utracia:
Against
abortion.

For
death penalty
descrimination of homosexuals
mutilation of criminals

So is it all in the timing?

My post says nothing about the death penalty as I am against. I think that these people are sick fucks who are attracted to children. You can't change what you desire. Suppress it maybe but it will come out again. Letting them out so they can reoffend is stupid but if they need to be then taking away their capability for causing children pain seems the right way to go.

'Paedophile' is too broad a term. Here in the UK at least, you can be put on the sex offenders register if a 16 year old boy as sex with his 15 year old girlfriend. I don't think he wold deserve being murdered for that.

Pedophiles can be rehabilitated? Isn't that like trying to change your sexual preference? Pedophiles are monsters who should remain in prison or should be castrated so they never harm another child again.
One problem:
Castration isn't going to magically make pedophiles into nice, caring people. I mean, you yourself said pedophiles can't be rehabilitated, so do you really think that someone losing their sex organs is going to take away their capacity for harm to others?
If you're going for preventing harm, castration is fairly useless.

This is why I should be in charge of the justice system.

Rape of anyone: deah penalty. (statutory rape is mostly trumped up bullshit like drug charges, if you have no real crime to charge people with, shut the fuck up)
Murder: death penalty.
Accessive assault (leaving victim near death): death penalty.
Threat to murder ot accessive assault: jail time
Drug charges: what drug charges? Just stay the fuck off the street and heavy machinery.
etc etc

And I don't support no pansy "go to jail for 10 years and get a dozen appeals stays" death penalty, if there is indisputable proof of the crime happening. You die within a month.

A public access sex offender list is a violation of what right to privacy they have left and their right to be secure in their own home. It is the police's job to inform all people who need to be informed, not the job of vigilantes to carry out "justice."

This is why I should be in charge of the justice system.

Rape of anyone: deah penalty. (statutory rape is mostly trumped up bullshit like drug charges, if you have no real crime to charge people with, shut the fuck up)
Murder: death penalty.
Accessive assault (leaving victim near death): death penalty.
Threat to murder ot accessive assault: jail time
Drug charges: what drug charges? Just stay the fuck off the street and heavy machinery.
etc etc

And I don't support no pansy "go to jail for 10 years and get a dozen appeals stays" death penalty, if there is indisputable proof of the crime happening. You die within a month.

Not bad Teh, I think this is the only time I have ever agreed with you on anything, LOL.

Not bad Teh, I think this is the only time I have ever agreed with you on anything, LOL.
I don't foresee myself agreeing with you on anything.

I should do the same. I'm feverish, drugged up, and extremely snappish. I apologise for biting your head off on numerous occasions.


I am sorry to hear that and I hope you get better.

As to biting my head off. No worries. You are a hot tempered woman and I like that quality in a woman. My wife is Sicilian. ;)

There are othertimes. But hey, I know am I not always pleasent. I just need to remember to watch what I say when I am in a foul mood. I should learn that when I make vague or stupid comments; it's a good indicator. ;)


No apologies for Eut, though...he is a sort of mutant hydra...when you bite his head off, another one grows back instead of a whole bunch of them...

:D

Ok that made me laugh!

Cheers!

There should be extreme sanctions for pedophile slapping. Offenders shoud be required to give up a child, niece, nephew, sister, brother etc...
And there should be an annual PPP (Pedo Pride Parade).

No. I'm not a pedophile myself, but these people are seriously fucked if they think someone who hasn't even developed a woman's (or man's, if you swing that way) body is a turn-on.

That said, I believe that at puberty, nature made you ready to copulate. So, for now, I'll restrict the use of the term "pedophile" to refer to those attracted to pre-pubescent children, which intentionally excludes many people incarcerated for "rape" of a willing 12-18 year old.

True pedophiles are mentally ill and need to be fixed. The American Psychiatric Association recognizes pedophilia as a mental disorder. Chemical castration might work as a short-term fix, but they need to sort out their issues which led them down that path with years of therapy.

Should killing pedophiles be justifiable homicide?
Hell no.
Reasons, except humanity? People are stupid buggers, they make mistakes and kill pediatricians because they think its got something to do with pedophilia.

In terms of law, no it's not justifiable. Legalising lynch mobs is just not safe. It's not sensible. If you want paedophiles to die why don't you just advocate the death penalty?

True pedophiles are mentally ill and need to be fixed. The American Psychiatric Association recognizes pedophilia as a mental disorder. Chemical castration might work as a short-term fix, but they need to sort out their issues which led them down that path with years of therapy.

As if shrinks really understand anything, it is all a guessing game with them. They see this as such a horrific act that they just assume "hey they must be mentally ill!" The law needs to come down on them not coddle them with therapy and tell them it's not really their fault because they are "ill."

Being attracted to children is a mental illness. Abusing children to satisfy those desires is a crime.

Pedophiles can be rehabilitated? Isn't that like trying to change your sexual preference? Pedophiles are monsters who should remain in prison or should be castrated so they never harm another child again.

Hetrosexuals are monsters who should remain in prison or should be castrated so they never harm another child again.

I think that they should be executed, but not just by someone who has taken the law into their own hands. They should have a fair trial first. (Unless you're a child and they're trying to rape you, then kill them in self-defence!)

I think though that if they are executed the victims or their parents should be allowed to help with the execution. Perhaps something like a medieval stoning would be effective here?:sniper:

Hetrosexuals are monsters who should remain in prison or should be castrated so they never harm another child again.

What? :confused:

What? :confused:

He's being sarcastic.

Hetrosexuals are monsters who should remain in prison or should be castrated so they never harm another child again.
You seem under the impression that paedophilia is a sexual orientation. It's not.

Most psychologists agree that paedophilia is more about control and domination than sexual arousal. It's the control over the child that matters.

Moreover, paedophiles very seldom care about the gender of the children they're molesting, thus further proving this point.

I think that they should be executed, but not just by someone who has taken the law into their own hands. They should have a fair trial first. (Unless you're a child and they're trying to rape you, then kill them in self-defence!)

I think though that if they are executed the victims or their parents should be allowed to help with the execution. Perhaps something like a medieval stoning would be effective here?:sniper:
Please. How medieval.

People, there's a very very good reason why mob justice and vengeful families commiting murder has been outlawed. Because there is too much room for abuse, and too high a possibility to kill innocents.

Vengeance is NOT justice.

You seem under the impression that paedophilia is a sexual orientation. It's not.

Most psychologists agree that paedophilia is more about control and domination than sexual arousal. It's the control over the child that matters.

Moreover, paedophiles very seldom care about the gender of the children they're molesting, thus further proving this point.

Those are the same psycologysts that agree the earth is 6000 years old.

Those are the same psycologysts that agree the earth is 6000 years old.

Good thing psychology has no relevence on the age of the Earth, then.

Those are the same psycologysts that agree the earth is 6000 years old.
First off, it's "psychologists".

Second, psychology has nothing to do with creationism OR evolution. You are way off the mark here.

Third, I live in Canada and I was speaking of Canadian specialists, and here anybody who's crazy enough to say the planet is only 6000 years old gets a lot of funny looks.

Whatever were you trying to say with that comment?

B]Also to note:[/B] Any one who votes no is a pedophile or a pedophile supporter and just as bad a pedophile. I made the poll public so that we will know who you are.

Trolling. Warned.