NationStates Jolt Archive


Computers Cure Cancer

Desperate Measures
28-02-2006, 22:05
I've posted this before a while ago... can't remember when. But it's a great thing to do with your computer's down time.

http://www.grid.org/download/gold/download.htm

Cure cancer during those brief windows in time when you're not posting on NS.

And just so you know:

"Will my privacy be compromised?

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DrunkenDove
28-02-2006, 22:09
I'd like to, but I'm on the university machines. So I'll have to steal someone elses password to make sure no trace of blame lies with me. Muhahahahahahaha!
Desperate Measures
28-02-2006, 22:16
I'd like to, but I'm on the university machines. So I'll have to steal someone elses password to make sure no trace of blame lies with me. Muhahahahahahaha!
You could just ask if it's alright. It doesn't affect the computer in any negative ways.
DrunkenDove
28-02-2006, 22:18
You could just ask if it's alright. It doesn't affect the computer in any negative ways.

Where's the fun in that?
Desperate Measures
28-02-2006, 22:20
Where's the fun in that?
Hmmm...

Point taken.
Super-power
28-02-2006, 22:24
Here (http://folding.stanford.edu/)'s the link to the folding programme that Stanford runs, which is another good programme.
Desperate Measures
28-02-2006, 22:28
Here (http://folding.stanford.edu/)'s the link to the folding programme that Stanford runs, which is another good programme.
cool.
Stolen Dreams
28-02-2006, 22:29
Proud UD cruncher since four years, with over two years of CPU time, and founder of a 100+ strong team.

Best opportunity we'll have of giving future generations a chance.
Desperate Measures
28-02-2006, 22:30
Proud UD cruncher since four years, with over two years of CPU time, and founder of a 100+ strong team.

Best opportunity we'll have of giving future generations a chance.
It really makes no sense to not contribute to something like this. Unless you're really super attached to your personal screen saver.
Super-power
28-02-2006, 22:33
It really makes no sense to not contribute to something like this. Unless you're really super attached to your personal screen saver.
Folding actually runs quite well for me even when my computer is active. Currently it's folding like 1000 sequences daily, though it's more of a recent phenomenon than anything (usually only folds a few hundred)
Stolen Dreams
28-02-2006, 22:38
It really makes no sense to not contribute to something like this. Unless you're really super attached to your personal screen saver.

Precisely.
And I don't use the screen saver. My UD client runs constantly. CPU load is constantly 100%, and the program runs at a lower priority than other processes so it doesn't interfere with other CPU-hungry applications and games.

Why would you rather run SETI or Distributed.net?
Sel Appa
28-02-2006, 22:41
Interesting...they use your computer to conduct medical research.
Norgopia
28-02-2006, 22:54
Huh. No mac version. Disappointing.
Stolen Dreams
28-02-2006, 22:56
Huh. No mac version. Disappointing.
Next best thing:
http://folding.stanford.edu/download.html
Desperate Measures
01-03-2006, 00:04
Precisely.
And I don't use the screen saver. My UD client runs constantly. CPU load is constantly 100%, and the program runs at a lower priority than other processes so it doesn't interfere with other CPU-hungry applications and games.

Why would you rather run SETI or Distributed.net?
I have a laptop and I know nothing about computers. That's as far as I know how to answer your question.
Forgive the computer illiterate.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
01-03-2006, 00:14
Hm, hadn't heard of that before (only of SETI). Sounds like a good thing.

Now I only have to convince myself that I can live without my Daily Show screensaver. It has a pic of Jon Stewart, so this isn't going to be easy... *whines*
Desperate Measures
01-03-2006, 00:30
Hm, hadn't heard of that before (only of SETI). Sounds like a good thing.

Now I only have to convince myself that I can live without my Daily Show screensaver. It has a pic of Jon Stewart, so this isn't going to be easy... *whines*
Print it out and frame it. Keep it on your desk. Feel his gaze as you surf the web.
Stolen Dreams
01-03-2006, 00:48
I have a laptop and I know nothing about computers. That's as far as I know how to answer your question.
Forgive the computer illiterate.

You have a laptop, and you don't know much about computers.


So that is why you'd rather run Distributed.net.



Can't say I understand your logic, but your reply was well amusing. Cheers! :)
Whereyouthinkyougoing
01-03-2006, 00:51
Print it out and frame it. Keep it on your desk. Feel his gaze as you surf the web.
Ooooh, I'm feeling his gaze right now... :p
Stolen Dreams
01-03-2006, 00:52
To clarify a few things, you do not have to use the program as a screensaver.
Just install the client, and leave it be. It sits in the tray and doesn't interfere with your PC in any other way, other than using a bit of your internet connexion now and then.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
01-03-2006, 00:58
To clarify a few things, you do not have to use the program as a screensaver.
Just install the client, and leave it be. It sits in the tray and doesn't interfere with your PC in any other way, other than using a bit of your internet connexion now and then.
Oh, really? But that site said something about it replacing your screensaver, too. But of course I can't find the exact quote again, and you should know, after all, seeing how you've been doing this for years.

So, thanks for the info!

Now I can ogle Jon Stewart while helping to cure cancer! How's that for kicks? :p
Reformentia
01-03-2006, 01:15
Oh, really? But that site said something about it replacing your screensaver, too.

It can, but it doesn't have to. There's two ways to run it.

1. With the "run only as screen saver" option in the preferences screen selected. In this case the only time the program is running is when your computer is idle long enough for your screensaver to kick in, and in this case you have to use it AS your screensaver or it will never get any work done.

2. With the "run only as screen saver" option in the preferences screen not selected. In this case the program runs constantly in the background.

Unless you run a lot of programs which are serious CPU hogs you're not going to notice any real performance impact from running it constantly in the background. You might want to switch to screen saver only if you're going to do some serious 3d intensive gaming or something and then switch it back on when you're done...

(Crunching UD data for 1yr, 47days, 4hrs, 58mins, 47secs of CPU time and counting...)
Stolen Dreams
02-03-2006, 12:04
Unless you run a lot of programs which are serious CPU hogs you're not going to notice any real performance impact from running it constantly in the background. You might want to switch to screen saver only if you're going to do some serious 3d intensive gaming or something and then switch it back on when you're done...

Even then UD won't affect your performance. The client runs at the lowest possible process priority, meaning the majority of processes have higher priority. You'll only run into trouble if you have other programs running at the lowest possible priority setting.
Compulsive Depression
02-03-2006, 12:37
Note to self: Reinstall that thing that SETI's using lately. Ta for the reminder :)

I'm curious how it'll interact with Cool 'n' Quiet on my new CPU... Will it do what Prime95 does, hit 100% CPU-use at reduced speed, or nudge it up to full power? I'd probably prefer the former, but they'd prefer the latter, I think... Anyone know the answer? I think it depends on what CPU priority it uses. The lowest (in Win2k) doesn't cause the CPU speed to increase.

Oh, and why SETI? Aliens are cool, and I'm more likely to die from a heart attack than cancer.
Anyway, the new thing they use can run several projects, so if SETI's not given you anything, it does something else instead.

Actually, I should install it on this PC too.
Stolen Dreams
02-03-2006, 12:52
The CPU will run hot (or warm if you have sufficient cooling :p). I believe the FPU of the CPU is mainly used, so running programs that send HLT command to the CPU (such as Rain, or Waterfall, and I even think W2k does this by default) will not interfere with operation, but limit the heat production slightly.

AFAIK, processes using HLT-commands to 'actively' cool the CPU alsu run at very low priorities. Not sure if this would lead to UD underperforming, or if UD's operations would take presedence over HLT-commands.

Looking for aliens is lovely. I think the question is if you wouldn't prefer doing something good for humanity? I'll disregard that egoistic quote about you dying from a heart attack - which is mostly a curable and preventable condition.


Everyone should install UD. It's in our best interest.
Kanabia
02-03-2006, 12:57
I'm waiting until some third world country distributes a program under the pretext of curing AIDS, when it actually designs nuclear weapons. That'd be awesome.
Murderous maniacs
02-03-2006, 13:00
I'm waiting until some third world country distributes a program under the pretext of curing AIDS, when it actually designs nuclear weapons. That'd be awesome.
i'm already working on it, along with trying to get the source code for the universe, or at least earth
Stolen Dreams
02-03-2006, 13:05
I'm waiting until some third world country distributes a program under the pretext of curing AIDS, when it actually designs nuclear weapons. That'd be awesome.

They already have that.

It's an american project called, well..

http://fightaidsathome.scripps.edu/
Compulsive Depression
02-03-2006, 13:12
The CPU will run hot (or warm if you have sufficient cooling ).
Yeah, mine runs cool enough. I just don't want to use too much electricity, really, or have noisier fans than necessary.

Looking for aliens is lovely. I think the question is if you wouldn't prefer doing something good for humanity? I'll disregard that egoistic quote about you dying from a heart attack - which is mostly a curable and preventable condition.
It is lovely. It makes me happy.
I think they're both "good for humanity". If it cheers you up I have rosetta@home as my secondary distributed computing project. No, I wouldn't prefer running something instead of SETI, thanks :P

Oh, and as for the heart attack: I know of which I speak. Trust me. Better than dying from cancer, though, and it probably ain't going to happen for 40 odd years.
Kanabia
02-03-2006, 13:12
They already have that.

It's an american project called, well..

http://fightaidsathome.scripps.edu/

Damn it. Oooh, I know, the cure for herpes?

i'm already working on it, along with trying to get the source code for the universe, or at least earth

That's easy.

1 BEGIN
2 SET ENDTIME=1
3 ENDTIME+1
4 SET UNIVERSE=1
5 IF UNIVERSE=1, GOTO 42
.
.
.
42 PRINT "I AM THE LIZARD KING"
43 IF ENDTIME=666, GOTO 45
44 GOTO 3
45 END