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Really, i just want to hear other peoples opinions and what is the point of it all, life, why does it suck, or is just me. having a girlfriend 800 miles away because i'm in college, jobs are shitty and can't get a good one and i've been trying for months. barely making enough, so what's the point of going on with my future when it's killing me and i am not happy with any of this. just hoping for help.

It really is sad to try to get help on the internet and from people who probably don't even care.

life sucks for a lot of people. your not the only one...

It's money, sex and generally having a good time that does it for me. While some other posters may offer you a deeper philosophical reason, don't knock shallow hedonism 'till you've tried it.

is there a person somewhere who's life doesn’t suck because I would love to meet whoever that is

"We have all heard the story of the person who felt sorry for himself because he had no shoes, but then met the man who had no feet"-Catherine Pulsifer

The point is to get the most toys

I hear if you die with the most then you win.

To live is to suffer.

is there a person somewhere who's life doesn’t suck because I would love to meet whoever that is

"We have all heard the story of the person who felt sorry for himself because he had no shoes, but then met the man who had no feet"-Catherine Pulsifer

Did the man with no feet give him shoes?

is there a person somewhere who's life doesn’t suck because I would love to meet whoever that is

"We have all heard the story of the person who felt sorry for himself because he had no shoes, but then met the man who had no feet"-Catherine Pulsifer



"I cried when I had no shoes, until I met a man who had no feet. And then I laughed... really hard." - Jerri Blank

Did the man with no feet give him shoes?

why would a man with no feet buy shoes? does he plan to use them on his hands so people think he has legs or something?

you have a bad attitude and are focusing on the negative. there is nothing wrong with your life that you can't fix if you give it the merest of effort.

why would a man with no feet buy shoes? does he plan to use them on his hands so people think he has legs or something?

Well, it never said he was born without feet. He might have just lost them in a tragic accident that miraculously left his shoes untouched.

money and sex is only a temporary high, and i have tried it, but to no good in the end. it's just been goin down for the last few months, and i don't even know if it's rock bottom. i hope so because if it isn't, then i'm scared to see what is rock bottom.

money and sex is only a temporary high, and i have tried it, but to no good in the end. it's just been goin down for the last few months, and i don't even know if it's rock bottom. i hope so because if it isn't, then i'm scared to see what is rock bottom.

You're complaints were 1) Girlfriend gone and 2) No/Crappy job. I think money and sex is just what you need to rectify that.

just be glad yer not a prostitute:

"Packing a Musket" by Jerri Blank: When you work from your home, and Johns call on the phone, you're a call girl. When you walk 'til you limp, and give a cut to a pimp, you're a street whore. When they're beggin' you please to get down on your knees, near their groinage, Excusa me, but you see, don't you touch, where they pee, without coinage. When I straddle and squat, to show you my...

i don't think my life sucks... its rough now and then, but i think the future holds good stuff... sure i'm in a low-paying job, my fiancee lives 3000 miles away, and im about 70k in debt, but in a year i'll be married, hopefully get a raise, and be enjoying what i have...

till then, its not like i'm starving or have health issues...

just keep plodding along

i have a job, and trying to get a better one, but to no success, and i see my g/f every few months for a week, and sex doesn't help, it's temporary. thus, shit not going my way. i try to look for the positive and do good things cause i'm a man of karma, but nothing has gone my way for the last 7 months.

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I see. In that case, you're going to have to look for a deeper meaning in your life. Start with work. What would your ideal job be?

something that is higher paying, i just need some financial stability

something that is higher paying, i just need some financial stability

Have you tried simply asking for a raise?

My life is great.

I have a rather nasty disease that makes me unable to work full time. I'm in constant pain and spend alot of time in hospital.

I wake up and (after a nice strong caffinated drink) I'm smiling. I love life!

Be happy you have a girlfriend at all.

Be happy you have the means to work at all.

There are always people worse off than you. Gloat if you have to.

I have a happy life. I realise constantly how lucky I am. Great parents, good physique with little effort, great mind, a middle-class background, private schooling, the works. And yet I have mild-depression. It is stress related school phobia. Go figure. Getting everything you want just makes you want more. I'm happy, but I'm ashamed to say I'm not satisfied.

Life is about obtaining power one way or another.

tried to get them, but to no success again, the reason why im trying to get a new job

is there a person somewhere who's life doesn’t suck because I would love to meet whoever that is

"We have all heard the story of the person who felt sorry for himself because he had no shoes, but then met the man who had no feet"-Catherine Pulsifer

The secret is to do what you want and live freely. If you're unburdened but have everything you want close by then its cool. Humans were meant to waste all of their time working or in classes. ^_~ Ya gotta practice moderation and do whatever you feel like, instead of concentrating on actual gain, ya gotta concentrate on doing things which will make you happy. O_O

Stoney and I would go over to Buckle's and Puff would turn us on to a hot load of mescaline crumbled into a tumbler of ether with a float of Percocet jimmies. I'd wake up with blood on my ass, and then we'd get high. Those were some good times! - Jerri Blank

No matter what you have, as long as you want more you'll only be able to get temporary happinesses. Oh and be arrogant about yourself, untill you KNOW that you're the best. That should carry you by if anything turns really really bad.

Ehm.
And now a quote from the band "The Fools"


Life sucks...Then you die.

tried to get them, but to no success again, the reason why im trying to get a new job

That sucks. I assume you've asked them for more hours as well and they've turned you down there as well?

You're going to have to take matters into your own hands. Do you have any skills that you could use to earn something on the side? I, for example, repair computers, grow weed, busk and play poker to earn extra cash.

Also, you might want to look at your expenditures. If rent is too high, you might want to move and so on and so fourth. I realize that all this advice is extremely obvious, but they all can't be jems.

People need to learn to appreciate challenges. I think modern media is largely to blame. With instant gratification at our fingertips, real life appears to be continuous battle with problems. It is. But life without problems would be so dull!! If everything just went perfectly we'd all be overwhelmingly content to the point where we'd just be unhappy all over again. If there's one thing humans are good at, its problem solving. Rejoice in it, enjoy the stress of life's roller coaster!

trust me, i know life doesnt come on a silver platter, it never has been for me, but it is the worst now. i can handle stress, pressure, all that, but now is the worst. life is a challenge, it always has been for me but the worst is now. the one thing about me is i never give up, and i wont with this, but i just want this to get better because i cant see it getting worse, but i dont know if it will get better

Everything in life in relative, happiness, sadness, love, hate, etc. Without bad days we wouldn't have good days. Once you come to accept that and realise that your life, as crappy as it may seem to you, would be a dream come true for somebody else, then you'll be able to suck it up and move on.

having a girlfriend 800 miles away because i'm in college,

My bf's i don't know how far away, he cannot come here, i cannot visit him any time soon because i don't have the time, and this isn't even a college thing (although i am in university) its permanant. I think my case sucks a little more...

i'm not trying to say that my situation is horrible, just looking for help, just trying to do something good for myself, cause things are tough.

The point of life is to live for others.

i'm not trying to say that my situation is horrible, just looking for help, just trying to do something good for myself, cause things are tough.

I get it, life just really sucks sometimes... and there just doesn't seem to be a way to make it any easier...

Swabians, you said, the point of life is to live for others, but what if no one (with one exception, maybe two) seems to care one bit,

Advice:
Dump your girlfriend!

Advice 2:
Stop posting on this forum: IT DOES NOT IMPROVE YOUR LIFE!

Advice 3:
Settle for a shitty job, money's money.

The reason why most people here are miserable? The honest truth? ITS A BLOODY FORUM! ITS FULL OF NERDS! NERDS IN GENERAL= MISERABLE. Thats the truth.

Advice:
Dump your girlfriend!


I don't exactly get the point of why he should dump his girlfriend?

To get one closer to home.

Advice:
Dump your girlfriend!

Advice 2:
Stop posting on this forum: IT DOES NOT IMPROVE YOUR LIFE!

Advice 3:
Settle for a shitty job, money's money.

The reason why most people here are miserable? The honest truth? ITS A BLOODY FORUM! ITS FULL OF NERDS! NERDS IN GENERAL= MISERABLE. Thats the truth.

1. no, she the one and i aint letting her go.

2. just looking for a little help, not trying to improve my life, so calm down
there

3. money is money, but college, insurance, and rent doesnt care if i dont have enough money, hence, i need a better paying job

Really, i just want to hear other peoples opinions and what is the point of it all, life, why does it suck, or is just me. having a girlfriend 800 miles away because i'm in college, jobs are shitty and can't get a good one and i've been trying for months. barely making enough, so what's the point of going on with my future when it's killing me and i am not happy with any of this. just hoping for help.

It really is sad to try to get help on the internet and from people who probably don't even care.
There Is No Point To Life. Read One My Posts In The "Leave A Beautiful Corpse" Thread (It's Rather Recent). Life Is Technically All An Illusion Made Up By Our Brains. But, Illusions Can Be Pretty Realistic. I Aim To Make This Illusion As Great As Possible. And I Will Fail Miserably.

1. no, she the one and i aint letting her go.

2. just looking for a little help, not trying to improve my life, so calm down
there

3. money is money, but college, insurance, and rent doesnt care if i dont have enough money, hence, i need a better paying job

1. Least you can technically have a girlfriend......

2. Help? Give us a good reason you should be sad, and how being sad will help that situation, failing that.....

3. Eh, true, get help with that, but not here, we can't give you a job.

Anyways, you're alledgedly stressed out....I wouldn't know, but my advice, don't worry so much, you'll just get less done.....take some time, maybe an hour, right now, to think things through, stop thinking about your girlfriend so much, she exist, and you meet her everyone once in a while, that's better than most...You already know what you need to do on the other stuff, now accept that your life, and the world in general sucks, it's a part of existence that once universally accepted can be shunted to the back of your mind and disregarded....

There Is No Point To Life. Read One My Posts In The "Leave A Beautiful Corpse" Thread (It's Rather Recent). Life Is Technically All An Illusion Made Up By Our Brains. But, Illusions Can Be Pretty Realistic. I Aim To Make This Illusion As Great As Possible. And I Will Fail Miserably.

He's already stressed, don't you be giving him advice...We'll have another one of your kind around here.....

Really, i just want to hear other peoples opinions and what is the point of it all, life, why does it suck, or is just me. having a girlfriend 800 miles away because i'm in college, jobs are shitty and can't get a good one and i've been trying for months. barely making enough, so what's the point of going on with my future when it's killing me and i am not happy with any of this. just hoping for help.

It really is sad to try to get help on the internet and from people who probably don't even care.

There is no point to life other than what you give to it. If the lack of a purpose is bothering you, give yourself a purpose. It is meaningless to say that life sucks since there is nothing else to compare it to; granted you can compare your life someone elses but they are likely to have problems to and more importantly their life is not yours and never will be. Learn to say 'yes' to the world and embrace both the good and the bad; your current suffering will only make happiness more satisfying. If you honestly doubt that your life will get better, I strongly advise you to re-think what you are doing with it. What are you going to college for? If it isn't something that you are passionate about, consider dropping out to be with your girlfriend, have money, and pursue something that you are passionate about. Ultimately, it is only you who can decide what you do with your life and how you respond to it; and it sounds like you really need to take sometime to think things through.

There Is No Point To Life. Read One My Posts In The "Leave A Beautiful Corpse" Thread (It's Rather Recent). Life Is Technically All An Illusion Made Up By Our Brains. But, Illusions Can Be Pretty Realistic. I Aim To Make This Illusion As Great As Possible. And I Will Fail Miserably.

I'm not going to go chasing down your nonsense. Can you explain what you mean by life is an illusion made by the brain? Obviously what you are saying is not entirely true (if all life is an illusion you are an illusion of mine, and I'm sure you could argue the reverse but if anyone is the "real" one it is me); but I'm sure you have something you are trying to say. Are you saying that "reality" is relative to the individual perspective? and thus what we perceive is not truly real since the brain distorts it? If you forsee yourself failing miserably at making your illusion as "great as possible" why are you even attempting (or are you just pessimist?)? Or do you mean that you can never make your illusion great? If that is the case you could still fulfill "as great as possible." And stop capitalizing every damn word!

You've set your standards too high.

I mean, you're here. You have internet access. You have computer access. You have the free time to post here. You probably have a beverage and a snack at hand.

It isn't like you're waiting on the next UN food delivery so you can try to get a couple bags of flour before the militia show up with guns to steal the food, rape your sisters and cinscript you into their unit.

Most of the stress you feel is an illusion generated by your mind's insistence on what is important and what isn't. Learn to let the things you can't control at the moment slide. Why stress yourself out over things you can't do anything about right now? Wait for your opportunities. Do what you can when you can do it and don't burn thought cycles when they'll do you no good.

If you give it some thought, you'd be amazed at how little in life is truly that important and how good you really have it.

This reminds me of a hilarious little quote, but be warned, I have a sick taste in humor...

Person A:"What's the point of living?"
Person B:"There isn't any... Here, hold my gun for me, will ya?"

That's what I would do, if you asked me that question in real life...

~Satanic Reverend Medivh~

Most of the stress you feel is an illusion generated by your mind's insistence on what is important and what isn't. Learn to let the things you can't control at the moment slide. Why stress yourself out over things you can't do anything about right now? Wait for your opportunities. Do what you can when you can do it and don't burn thought cycles when they'll do you no good.

Here here! I think he said it better ^(^_^)^

Really, i just want to hear other peoples opinions and what is the point of it all, life, why does it suck, or is just me. having a girlfriend 800 miles away because i'm in college, jobs are shitty and can't get a good one and i've been trying for months. barely making enough, so what's the point of going on with my future when it's killing me and i am not happy with any of this. just hoping for help.

It really is sad to try to get help on the internet and from people who probably don't even care.
i think what it is is that the benefit you recieve from your efforts doesn't outweigh the... effort... part. (badly phrased but you know what i mean)
its not a matter of laziness (to secondguess some people's rebuttal) but motivation.

when you lose motivation for life - just in general, lose motivation to live, lose a reason to go on - then it may be very difficult but you need a change.

when you start thinking that everything you do 'isn't worth it', you probably need to try and find something different to do to make 'it' worth the effort - make the effort count and get a benefit you care about. be that helping people, more money, a rock n roll lifestyle... i don't know but if you seriously think life has no meaning and you fear the future dragging on like this forever, then you need to make some changes. slowly - one at a time, but they all add up to an eventual positive change that will result in a better life, and hopefully a life you'll want to live. i might suggest getting help from family or friends, and starting to figure out what changes you think you could make, or just take time out to be yourself again. go see your girlfriend maybe.

you only get one life, so why spend it doing something you hate? go out on a limb and change it if you don't like it - it might cause a stir, but thats what you want in a way.


personally i quit uni and fell back to living with (and working for) my parents when i felt this way. things are better now. still not great in that money isn't that much of a benefit to me and if i'm honest i still fear and don't want to get into a situation where i work simply out of fear of not paying the debts, but i probably don't have much choice there and try not to think about it. i'm not sure what my motivation is in my professional life - bar not pissing off my parents - so thats not that great still, i work quite poorly and lazily, and dislike the work in general. i know i need a change and am planning it already. my personal life is much better as i have found someone to focus my love and care onto, and it makes me feel good to do so - starts to make me feel like a better person. she also makes me very happy in herself, and is just wonderful, so thats positive and is a motivation for life :)
just saying that i'm not blindly offering advice here - i may only be 20 but i've been lost and confused and fearing the future, hating every day, wishing i was dead every day, having no motivation for life. i've been there and it doesn't have to be that way.

so i suppose, in answer to your original question, the point of life is that it can change :)

so i suppose, in answer to your original question, the point of life is that it can change :)


Bah! You're just like that cuz o' Glitz, quit bein' so happy! *hmph* We're trying to show that other peoples lives suck just as much and more, and give him some stress dealing with tips...things...


(Meh, don't mind me, good advice, but you still make me grumpy :P)

Bah! You're just like that cuz o' Glitz, quit bein' so happy! *hmph* We're trying to show that other peoples lives suck just as much and more, and give him some stress dealing with tips...things...


(Meh, don't mind me, good advice, but you still make me grumpy :P)
lol! well she does make me happy, and i learn a lot from her... but i still wouldn't say i *am* happy with life overall, sadly. that part, yes... if i could be with her more (like, all the time *gets out giant sewing kit* :P) then maybe that would help (the rest of it) but that would still leave the problem of doing a job i have no motivation for. if my motivation were her then i could stomach doing a shitty job, and she is to some extent in that my job pays for me to be able to come and see her and pay for the car and pay for our meals and the like... but somehow i need more from the work.
anyway i'm not gonna turn this thread into being about me, and just finish on saying that i have a plan! haha! :D

In the end, it doesn't matter. Nothing does. Live if you want, die if you want.

There are two important things to note:
1. Sooner or later, your life won't matter at all, so you can just as well die at any time.
2. As your life eventually won't matter at all, you can just as well live on if you feel like it. No matter how shitty your life ends up, sooner or later it won't matter anymore.

Then, there are many different possibilities of life after death. Even taking those in account, the above is very likely to be correct.

What you see as you (let's for simplicity's sake just refer to that as "you") is generated by your brain. Change your brain, and you are changed. Damage your brain, and you are damaged. Kill your brain, and you are dead. There might be something left, but it is pretty safe to asume that "you" as you know it won't survive.

So, let's take a few after-death scenarios that people typically believe in:
1. Your consciousness in every way ceases to exist. Nothing matters anymore.
2. Some "soul" thing goes to hell, and there burn forever. After an infinite amount of time of suffering, your life will be completely irrelevant. You would just exist in your current state, suffering.
3. You are reincarnated. Your previous life is now irrelevant.
4. Some "soul" thing end up in some kind of "heaven". Your old life doesn't matter anymore.
5. You (the part of you that's left) go outside of the scope of this life. You "wake up", so to say. Your old life is now behind you.

In either of these, your life eventually won't matter anymore. There are many scenarios where it would, but in most cases, it wouldn't, eventually.

My advice would be to either:
1. Live on miserably. It won't matter in the end, anyway.
2. Die.
3. Try to make your life as happy and fulfilling as possible. That way, (assuming you succeed) the rest of will remain meaningful. Until it ends, after which all your previous joy will be irrelevant.

lol! well she does make me happy, and i learn a lot from her... but i still wouldn't say i *am* happy with life overall, sadly. that part, yes... if i could be with her more (like, all the time *gets out giant sewing kit* :P) then maybe that would help (the rest of it) but that would still leave the problem of doing a job i have no motivation for. if my motivation were her then i could stomach doing a shitty job, and she is to some extent in that my job pays for me to be able to come and see her and pay for the car and pay for our meals and the like... but somehow i need more from the work.
anyway i'm not gonna turn this thread into being about me, and just finish on saying that i have a plan! haha! :D

Hmph...I suppose this is natures pitiful attempt at a "grass is greener" sort of thing, eh? Meh.....I'll just go to the cabin....(maybe listen to some definitively non-depressing music....With my hermit....music playing...stuff...>_>)

i think what it is is that the benefit you recieve from your efforts doesn't outweigh the... effort... part. (badly phrased but you know what i mean)
its not a matter of laziness (to secondguess some people's rebuttal) but motivation.

when you lose motivation for life - just in general, lose motivation to live, lose a reason to go on - then it may be very difficult but you need a change.

when you start thinking that everything you do 'isn't worth it', you probably need to try and find something different to do to make 'it' worth the effort - make the effort count and get a benefit you care about. be that helping people, more money, a rock n roll lifestyle... i don't know but if you seriously think life has no meaning and you fear the future dragging on like this forever, then you need to make some changes. slowly - one at a time, but they all add up to an eventual positive change that will result in a better life, and hopefully a life you'll want to live. i might suggest getting help from family or friends, and starting to figure out what changes you think you could make, or just take time out to be yourself again. go see your girlfriend maybe.

you only get one life, so why spend it doing something you hate? go out on a limb and change it if you don't like it - it might cause a stir, but thats what you want in a way.


personally i quit uni and fell back to living with (and working for) my parents when i felt this way. things are better now. still not great in that money isn't that much of a benefit to me and if i'm honest i still fear and don't want to get into a situation where i work simply out of fear of not paying the debts, but i probably don't have much choice there and try not to think about it. i'm not sure what my motivation is in my professional life - bar not pissing off my parents - so thats not that great still, i work quite poorly and lazily, and dislike the work in general. i know i need a change and am planning it already. my personal life is much better as i have found someone to focus my love and care onto, and it makes me feel good to do so - starts to make me feel like a better person. she also makes me very happy in herself, and is just wonderful, so thats positive and is a motivation for life :)
just saying that i'm not blindly offering advice here - i may only be 20 but i've been lost and confused and fearing the future, hating every day, wishing i was dead every day, having no motivation for life. i've been there and it doesn't have to be that way.

so i suppose, in answer to your original question, the point of life is that it can change :)
You depress me with your lies, for I see them as such. While you may think you are changing life, you are mistaken: life is changing you. Have you any idea what it is to see the woman for whom your universe is made, the woman you cannot have, who in all probablity wouldn't have you if circumstance permitted? I speak not of the pangs of lust but of the quintessential balance which must be achieved. Do you know what it is to see your center, your focus, drift away with the currents of time and the embrace of another, only to strengthen the Moirai threads restraining you from completion, fulfillment?

...the woman you cannot have, who in all probablity wouldn't have you...

Eh, I'd say that the seeing the woman who would have you but still couldn't is worse...But that's perhaps just me, eh?

To spread the Good News to all the nations of course! Besides, life is way too short of a thing to really dedicate oneself to in every way possible.

Eh, I'd say that the seeing the woman who would have you but still couldn't is worse...But that's perhaps just me, eh?
No, the point is despair is probably my lot in this life, that there is no real hope of melding with my center, my balance, to complete myself.

To spread the Good News to all the nations of course! Besides, life is way too short of a thing to really dedicate oneself to in every way possible.

And short of temporary insanity caused by stress...go around talking about how life sucks, but not being emo at the same time. There is a worthy goal to pursue.

No, the point is despair is probably my lot in this life, that there is no real hope of melding with my center, my balance, to complete myself.

Eh, If you realize this already...why bother PM with it? Sides, I'd say as long as you're huma, don't bank much on finding a center....but, eh, don't need a bullseye when you're playing darts do ya? Eh, Any reason you shouldn't have hope? Do even know what your "center" would be or how to strive for it?

And short of temporary insanity caused by stress...go around talking about how life sucks, but not being emo at the same time. There is a worthy goal to pursue.
Perhaps those who claim others to be "emo" simply cannot, neglect, or refuse to understand the troubles of the afflicted. Everything is a matter of perspective.

Perhaps those who claim others to be "emo" simply cannot, neglect, or refuse to understand the troubles of the afflicted. Everything is a matter of perspective.

...wasn't exactly a serious suggestion, but meh, I generally confine my accusations of "emo" to well-off suburban teenagers who got dumped and try to write poetry...As for you...Well....I see your troubles, but stay away from poetry, eh?

Eh, If you realize this already...why bother PM with it? Sides, I'd say as long as you're huma, don't bank much on finding a center....but, eh, don't need a bullseye when you're playing darts do ya? Eh, Any reason you shouldn't have hope? Do even know what your "center" would be or how to strive for it?
I was addressing the post of someone who seems to me foolishly optimistic, hence the post. That's the point life, though: to find balance, a focus for the Self. I can have no hope for Karma has proven an ironic and cruel nemesis and mistress. The center is representative of that which fulfills one's life and, like that of a circle, is the unifying force which completes the unity of the Self. I have felt my center and feel her still upon occasion, but she belongs to another now, and my words are of no avail, for that which cannot be in this life cannot be forced by the hand of man. Should the Fates and Karma permit, we shall find each other in time. That's all I really have anyway: time.

To spread the Good News to all the nations of course! Besides, life is way too short of a thing to really dedicate oneself to in every way possible.

This is why I dislike Christians. "This is life is only a prelude to death, don't dedicate yourself to life; dedicate it to the afterworldly." There is nothing after death, and we should savor this life no matter how bad it seems.

...wasn't exactly a serious suggestion, but meh, I generally confine my accusations of "emo" to well-off suburban teenagers who got dumped and try to write poetry...As for you...Well....I see your troubles, but stay away from poetry, eh?
Yes, I gathered as much but left nothing to chance. 'Tis too late for me to avoid poetry. Even now I've something in the works. You may like it. Conviently, it came to me while I was sleeping early on the morning of Valentine's Day. Want me to post its current revision?

I was addressing the post of someone who seems to me foolishly optimistic, hence the post. That's the point life, though: to find balance, a focus for the Self. I can have no hope for Karma has proven an ironic and cruel nemesis and mistress. The center is representative of that which fulfills one's life and, like that of a circle, is the unifying force which completes the unity of the Self. I have felt my center and feel her still upon occasion, but she belongs to another now, and my words are of no avail, for that which cannot be in this life cannot be forced by the hand of man. Should the Fates and Karma permit, we shall find each other in time. That's all I really have anyway: time.

Ah, I get it, unrequited love thing, eh? My suggestion, at least try and make friends with her (assuming there's not some reason she hates you already), and be hapy for her.....and look somewhere else....The "my one and only" thing is rather ridiculous....Maybe...it's an elipse? that's round too...and it has to centers (well....not centers really, focal points...foci....summat like that....Makes sense though, doubt there's only one thing for you to "feel your center")

Yes, I gathered as much but left nothing to chance. 'Tis too late for me to avoid poetry. Even now I've something in the works. You may like it. Conviently, it came to me while I was sleeping early on the morning of Valentine's Day. Want me to post its current revision?

Ah, If it came to you while sleeping, sure. I suck at story writing, but my dreams have been quite riveting at times...If only I could remember enough of them to write them down....

Ah, I get it, unrequited love thing, eh? My suggestion, at least try and make friends with her (assuming there's not some reason she hates you already), and be hapy for her.....and look somewhere else....The "my one and only" thing is rather ridiculous....Maybe...it's an elipse? that's round too...and it has to centers (well....not centers really, focal points...foci....summat like that....Makes sense though, doubt there's only one thing for you to "feel your center")
I am friends with her, but we do not communicate frequently. She doesn't hate me. Occasionally, with the rare event of our intersection, she graces me with a smile in the hall. I am happy for her. It's just that I don't feel complete, but rather empty and devoid of something essential. An ellipses balance operates on the principle of two. I could never be loyal to two, for to be loyal to one would be to betray the other. Besides, one female naturally balances one male. This is really where words fail akin to mathematics in an "Error: cannot divide by zero" fashion.

Ah, If it came to you while sleeping, sure. I suck at story writing, but my dreams have been quite riveting at times...If only I could remember enough of them to write them down....
My dreams are either visions of the future which I promptly foget until the moment's occurrence or are great themes for a novel. My Comp 110 teacher says my style is rather 19th century, exactly the effect for which I always endeavor:

Ephemeral vestiges of you flood hollow corridors
Harrowed with beast-crested columns.
I in your wind-swept tomb,
Shackled by memories:
You in your great-walled city
Pacing through shattered golden rays
Splashed across eroded stone,
My immortal chains made fast to
Moirai threads and Moira’s visions:
Bronze-capped shaft two lovers’ hearts transfixed,
Yours bled dry and sped to Hades’ Gates
Mine pinned to mortal coil, forever damned; soul despoiled.
Assassin’s burgundy life with ours mingled,
Your pallid cheek adorned in hematic lace.
With tender breath this place depart,
Accompany Death from my embrace.

I was addressing the post of someone who seems to me foolishly optimistic, hence the post.

i've been despairing, i've seen my life as nothing more than a endless drudge of pain and misery, the same every single day, waking up hating the day, wanting to be dead. i've been really rather pessimistic in my life in the past.
i now have reason to be optimistic.
your melodramatic attempt to bring me down is really rather sad.


it sounds to me like you're putting an awful lot of emphasis on this person and all but hinging your life around them. perhaps more than is healthy. i don't know you or the person of which you speak, or anything about your relationship with them, but thats how it seems to me. perhaps learning to let go and move on, to find another 'centre' (be it a person or an activity perhaps) would be beneficial...


Should the Fates and Karma permit, we shall find each other in time. That's all I really have anyway: time.
time = hope. in the right frame of mind, at least.



YWhile you may think you are changing life, you are mistaken: life is changing you.

and i let it, happily. fighting change and fighting life is pointless: change happens. you can either work with that change and make the most of it or see the world change around you as you try - in vain - to resist it.

i was an antisocial, clinically depressed, paranoid pothead only a year ago. life has changed me but i have worked with it to change myself and am an awful lot happier for it.



Have you any idea what it is to see the woman for whom your universe is made, the woman you cannot have, who in all probablity wouldn't have you if circumstance permitted? I speak not of the pangs of lust but of the quintessential balance which must be achieved. Do you know what it is to see your center, your focus, drift away with the currents of time and the embrace of another, only to strengthen the Moirai threads restraining you from completion, fulfillment?
no, thankfully i don't know what that's like. i'm sorry things are so hard for you in that respect :(

but as i said up there, maybe the only thing you can do is roll with the punches so to speak - change yourself as life changes around you?

I am friends with her, but we do not communicate frequently. She doesn't hate me. Occasionally, with the rare event of our intersection, she graces me with a smile in the hall. I am happy for her. It's just that I don't feel complete, but rather empty and devoid of something essential. An ellipses balance operates on the principle of two. I could never be loyal to two, for to be loyal to one would be to betray the other. Besides, one female naturally balances one male. This is really where words fail akin to mathematics in an "Error: cannot divide by zero" fashion.

Eh, now this sounds rather familiar...It doesn't necessarily have to be another female....there's other things in life...But yeah...I know the feeling.


Nice poem...too morbid for my personal tastes....then again, my personal tastes include fart jokes, so meh.

Beep.

Beep.

....I prefer Blip....

The point is to get the most toys

I hear if you die with the most then you win.
Win what? What???

Win what? What???

The prize is happy inheritors who remember you fondly for setting them up with some sweet gear.

The prize is happy inheritors who remember you fondly for setting them up with some sweet gear.
How very ... underwhelming. :rolleyes:

How very ... underwhelming. :rolleyes:

Toys are fine and dandy, but it's better to cultivate people to play with.

Or you could go all Chinese Emperor and bury yourself with all those toys to take them along with you.

Toys are fine and dandy, but it's better to cultivate people to play with.

Or you could go all Chinese Emperor and bury yourself with all those toys to take them along with you.

If people didnt care so much about "toys" theyd probably be much happier. I admit Im a spineless coward for not following my own theory here, but I do try not to be materialistic to the best of my ability.

i've been despairing, i've seen my life as nothing more than a endless drudge of pain and misery, the same every single day, waking up hating the day, wanting to be dead. i've been really rather pessimistic in my life in the past.
i now have reason to be optimistic.
your melodramatic attempt to bring me down is really rather sad.


it sounds to me like you're putting an awful lot of emphasis on this person and all but hinging your life around them. perhaps more than is healthy. i don't know you or the person of which you speak, or anything about your relationship with them, but thats how it seems to me. perhaps learning to let go and move on, to find another 'centre' (be it a person or an activity perhaps) would be beneficial...



time = hope. in the right frame of mind, at least.





and i let it, happily. fighting change and fighting life is pointless: change happens. you can either work with that change and make the most of it or see the world change around you as you try - in vain - to resist it.

i was an antisocial, clinically depressed, paranoid pothead only a year ago. life has changed me but i have worked with it to change myself and am an awful lot happier for it.




no, thankfully i don't know what that's like. i'm sorry things are so hard for you in that respect :(

but as i said up there, maybe the only thing you can do is roll with the punches so to speak - change yourself as life changes around you?

I have no desire to see you miserable, but I find optimism a rejection of the true nature of things.

I have no choice but to "roll with the punches" as you say, but that does nothing to diminish the anguish for all the precious moments I squander. I cannot forget someone of such importance. She is simply a part of me, and without that part the rest is bitter, malevolent and directionless, which is far from a good combination. She balances me, inspires temperence and greater reflective thought, and reminds me of the essence of compassion. Whether I accept the change or not is unrelated to my abyss; I do try to adapt with changes(and I do so very well usually), yet this refuses to subside. After all, who can decide what they dream?

Eh, now this sounds rather familiar...It doesn't necessarily have to be another female....there's other things in life...But yeah...I know the feeling.


Nice poem...too morbid for my personal tastes....then again, my personal tastes include fart jokes, so meh.
No, it doesn't have to be another female; another cannot suffice to inspire me to fulfillment. And that's just how it came to me in both the original dream which defined the scene and in the dream which spawned the poem itself.

If people didnt care so much about "toys" theyd probably be much happier. I admit Im a spineless coward for not following my own theory here, but I do try not to be materialistic to the best of my ability.
At least you make a pass at moderation. Sometimes it's not the toys themselves that lure, but how they might service us to permit us transcend simple tasks to higher order of activity, or how they might at least satisfy in some small part an unrest which cannot be fulfilled otherwise, likewise freeing one to other tasks. The key to it is moderation, something to which I also have difficulty adhering sometimes.

Really, i just want to hear other peoples opinions and what is the point of it all, life, why does it suck, or is just me. having a girlfriend 800 miles away because i'm in college, jobs are shitty and can't get a good one and i've been trying for months. barely making enough, so what's the point of going on with my future when it's killing me and i am not happy with any of this. just hoping for help.

It really is sad to try to get help on the internet and from people who probably don't even care.


Things change. I was broke, in school, no boyfriend and living on $100/month (this was in the 60s). Then I got a boyfriend and married him. Being broke, in school and living on $100/mo started to look pretty good at that point.

It's all temporary. It'll get better, worse, better and so on. Try to find people and things you enjoy. It helps.

Things change. I was broke, in school, no boyfriend and living on $100/month (this was in the 60s). Then I got a boyfriend and married him. Being broke, in school and living on $100/mo started to look pretty good at that point.

It's all temporary. It'll get better, worse, better and so on. Try to find people and things you enjoy. It helps.
Yeah, and hope Karma doesn't torture you with them...:(

I have no desire to see you miserable, but I find optimism a rejection of the true nature of things.

I have no choice but to "roll with the punches" as you say, but that does nothing to diminish the anguish for all the precious moments I squander. I cannot forget someone of such importance. She is simply a part of me, and without that part the rest is bitter, malevolent and directionless, which is far from a good combination. She balances me, inspires temperence and greater reflective thought, and reminds me of the essence of compassion. Whether I accept the change or not is unrelated to my abyss; I do try to adapt with changes(and I do so very well usually), yet this refuses to subside. After all, who can decide what they dream?

Ehhh.....let's see now....
If there was no one other than Ally....what would I do?....
I know your situation, honestly, the best thing you could do is find another girl to be enamored with, and/or get as platonicly close to your center girl you speak of...of course, it could take time....What's wrong with being bitter and malevolent? It's two great qualities of a hermit, and we hermits are just plain awesome. But yeah, she's going to tug on your heart for a good while...I don't know if it ever ends, but sometimes when you feel like you could possibly move on, you see her smile at you in passing, and you're back at square one...Eh...Just for the record...that "my one and only" thing is crap...hundreds of millions of girls of reasonable age, thousands you'll meet in you first score of years...*shrug* I don't know love too well, but I know statistics and probability....

Yeah, and hope Karma doesn't torture you with them...:(

I recomend a pet rock...or maybe an altenate personality...>_>;

Ehhh.....let's see now....
If there was no one other than Ally....what would I do?....
I know your situation, honestly, the best thing you could do is find another girl to be enamored with, and/or get as platonicly close to your center girl you speak of...of course, it could take time....What's wrong with being bitter and malevolent? It's two great qualities of a hermit, and we hermits are just plain awesome. But yeah, she's going to tug on your heart for a good while...I don't know if it ever ends, but sometimes when you feel like you could possibly move on, you see her smile at you in passing, and you're back at square one...Eh...Just for the record...that "my one and only" thing is crap...hundreds of millions of girls of reasonable age, thousands you'll meet in you first score of years...*shrug* I don't know love too well, but I know statistics and probability....
I can't, for I am practically a hermit, which means getting close to anyone without being in an intimate relationship is difficult. I enjoy being bitter and malevolent, but still I 'd rather be with her. Perhaps you think it's crap because you haven't found someone like that, or you lost someone like that, and it's your defense mechanism to say it's crap. I really don't know. That woman has me so damned confused.:(

My adivce: Get a hobby. Something with which to occupy your spare time. Make sure you like it, as it will give drive and meaning to your other stuff

My adivce: Get a hobby. Something with which to occupy your spare time. Make sure you like it, as it will give drive and meaning to your other stuff
Yeah, and hope Karma doesn't ruin that for you, too.:(

Yeah, and hope Karma doesn't ruin that for you, too.:(

Rather hard to do that, I recommend collecting rocks...

Really, i just want to hear other peoples opinions and what is the point of it all, life, why does it suck, or is just me. having a girlfriend 800 miles away because i'm in college, jobs are shitty and can't get a good one and i've been trying for months. barely making enough, so what's the point of going on with my future when it's killing me and i am not happy with any of this. just hoping for help.

It really is sad to try to get help on the internet and from people who probably don't even care.

Join the US army. Two months from now you'll be in Thailand, smoking the best dope money can buy. Or you'll be in Iraq, getting shot at, but judging from your current situation, I wouldn't say that's any worse. :D

Rather hard to do that, I recommend collecting rocks...
....NO....

Join the US army. Two months from now you'll be in Thailand, smoking the best dope money can buy. Or you'll be in Iraq, getting shot at, but judging from your current situation, I wouldn't say that's any worse. :D
If he's going to Iraq, he might as well be a Marine. At least then he wouldn't have to worry about being shot at for long.;)