NationStates Jolt Archive


HCI says "Oops"...

Kecibukia
28-02-2006, 17:45
Hope they do this again for the next bill....

http://www.isra.org/cap_com/cap_com060224.shtml

.....Anti-gunners continue to suffer set backs as their own arrogance gets the best of them. This past week, the Brady Campaign, bought full page ads in newspapers around the suburbs. The ads were targeted in those districts of nine suburban legislators who they thought they could woo over to their side. It backfired

The ads named the legislators and gave out email and phone numbers for people to call and contact them urging their support for the gun ban. Then, after the ads hit, they started robo calls into the districts. These calls are computer generated, hence the term “robo calls”. People were asked, via the recorded message, if they support HB-2414 an anti-crime bill and if they did to press 1 if they opposed press 5. If you pressed 5 the call was dumped since you knew what the bill number was. Those that pressed 1 were transferred to the Capitol office of the legislator.

One secretary of the targeted bunch had an interesting story to tell. About half the people were mad that they were being bothered and wanted to know how to get off the list. They also wanted to know why the legislator was calling them! Of the other half, many did not even know what the bill was about. Some that did know expressed their OPPOSITION to the bill.

One legislator took calls personally since the office people were so overwhelmed. When one of the people on the phone was clueless and sounded familiar, the caller was asked for a name. It turned out to be a hunting partner. After the bill was explained to the caller, the caller exclaimed that “you can’t vote for that, I own those guns”.

Another legislator was so enraged by the phony hyped up, manufactured so called support, that he let loose a tail chewing on the sponsor and proponents of the bill. He has flipped from a yes to a no vote......
Syniks
28-02-2006, 18:12
Anti-gunChoice people resorting to Dirty Tricks? Never! :rolleyes:
Unabashed Greed
28-02-2006, 18:15
Why do the gun nuts around here feel the constant need to "defend" their ability to kill things by acting like boorish idiots?
Teh_pantless_hero
28-02-2006, 18:18
Why do the gun nuts around here feel the constant need to "defend" their ability to kill things by acting like boorish idiots?
Because it is illegal to shoot people.
Kecibukia
28-02-2006, 18:23
Why do the gun nuts around here feel the constant need to "defend" their ability to kill things by acting like boorish idiots?

You mean like setting up robo dialers to make it seem like the public supports a bill or blatantly lying and misrepresenting the facts to get a bill passed to confiscate private property?

Oh, wait, that would be the banners in this case.
Unabashed Greed
28-02-2006, 18:27
You mean like setting up robo dialers to make it seem like the public supports a bill or blatantly lying and misrepresenting the facts to get a bill passed to confiscate private property?

Oh, wait, that would be the banners in this case.

Actually I'm talking about you in particular. I could give two shits about what most people have to say on this issue, because I've already made up my mind on it. But, the constant blathering about it from the NSG gun squad is so terribly annoying that it only serves to reenforce my currently held opinion...

I guess I should thank you for that, but I'm too busy being annoyed at your methods ;)
Kecibukia
28-02-2006, 18:31
Actually I'm talking about you in particular. I could give two shits about what most people have to say on this issue, because I've already made up my mind on it. But, the constant blathering about it from the NSG gun squad is so terribly annoying only serves to reenforce my currently held opinion...

I guess I should thank you for that, but I'm too busy being annoyed at your methods ;)

And yet you claim that you "could give two shits about what most people have to say on this issue" yet keep posting.

Let's see:

Gun nut
Boorish Idiot



Keep on Trolling.

I'll keep pointing out the hypocrisy of the Anti-rights groups.
Syniks
28-02-2006, 18:34
Why do the gun nuts around here feel the constant need to "defend" their ability to kill things by acting like boorish idiots?
When did pointing out Political Dirty Tricks (on any issue) become Boorish? Oh yeah, when those Dirty Tricks are not done by Republicans.

Republcan/Right Wing Dirty Trick bashing = Good
Democrat/Left Wing Dirty Trick bashing = Bad

Got it. :rolleyes:
Unabashed Greed
28-02-2006, 18:40
I'm not "anti-rights", I'm just anti-guns. I personally own a variety of other things that could be considered "weapons", but I hate guns.

I think they're a cop-out for people who don't really want to learn how to fight. Why craft a skill when pulling a trigger is so much simpler.

Like the old saying goes... "Guns for a show, knives for a pro."

All you are doing here by acting in the way that you are is proving to me that people who truly love their guns are the exact people who shouldn't have them.
Liverbreath
28-02-2006, 18:43
Why do the gun nuts around here feel the constant need to "defend" their ability to kill things by acting like boorish idiots?

Hmmm. I don't recall anything at all mentioning the defense of their ability to kill things. What I read was in regard to borrish idiots continuing to use fraud and deceit to push their agenda.
Not that I mind. It is what keeps them irrelevant and reflects across the entire spectrum of like minded activists with left leaning tendencies.
Corneliu
28-02-2006, 18:48
Hope they do this again for the next bill....

http://www.isra.org/cap_com/cap_com060224.shtml

.....Anti-gunners continue to suffer set backs as their own arrogance gets the best of them. This past week, the Brady Campaign, bought full page ads in newspapers around the suburbs. The ads were targeted in those districts of nine suburban legislators who they thought they could woo over to their side. It backfired

The ads named the legislators and gave out email and phone numbers for people to call and contact them urging their support for the gun ban. Then, after the ads hit, they started robo calls into the districts. These calls are computer generated, hence the term “robo calls”. People were asked, via the recorded message, if they support HB-2414 an anti-crime bill and if they did to press 1 if they opposed press 5. If you pressed 5 the call was dumped since you knew what the bill number was. Those that pressed 1 were transferred to the Capitol office of the legislator.

One secretary of the targeted bunch had an interesting story to tell. About half the people were mad that they were being bothered and wanted to know how to get off the list. They also wanted to know why the legislator was calling them! Of the other half, many did not even know what the bill was about. Some that did know expressed their OPPOSITION to the bill.

One legislator took calls personally since the office people were so overwhelmed. When one of the people on the phone was clueless and sounded familiar, the caller was asked for a name. It turned out to be a hunting partner. After the bill was explained to the caller, the caller exclaimed that “you can’t vote for that, I own those guns”.

Another legislator was so enraged by the phony hyped up, manufactured so called support, that he let loose a tail chewing on the sponsor and proponents of the bill. He has flipped from a yes to a no vote......

HAHAHAHA!!!

I needed the laugh today This was a funny read.
Kecibukia
28-02-2006, 18:53
I'm not "anti-rights", I'm just anti-guns. I personally own a variety of other things that could be considered "weapons", but I hate guns.

I think they're a cop-out for people who don't really want to learn how to fight. Why craft a skill when pulling a trigger is so much simpler.

Like the old saying goes... "Guns for a show, knives for a pro."

All you are doing here by acting in the way that you are is proving to me that people who truly love their guns are the exact people who shouldn't have them.

So pointing out the unethical political manuevering of groups and people trying to take away my rights and confiscate my property now disqualifies me from firearm ownership in your mind?

Your statements about the "lack of skill" of firearm owners shows how little you know about firearms.
DrunkenDove
28-02-2006, 18:54
*shakes head*

The Anti-gun types just don't know how to run their dirty tricks right.
Syniks
28-02-2006, 18:55
I'm not "anti-rights", I'm just anti-guns. I personally own a variety of other things that could be considered "weapons", but I hate guns.

I think they're a cop-out for people who don't really want to learn how to fight. Why craft a skill when pulling a trigger is so much simpler. Do you enjoy Discriminating against the Disabled that Much?

http://www.a-human-right.com/s_wheelchair.jpg

Like the old saying goes... "Guns for a show, knives for a pro."

All you are doing here by acting in the way that you are is proving to me that people who truly love their guns are the exact people who shouldn't have them.
Logic isn't your strong suit, is it?
Lacadaemon
28-02-2006, 19:06
Actually I'm talking about you in particular. I could give two shits about what most people have to say on this issue, because I've already made up my mind on it. But, the constant blathering about it from the NSG gun squad is so terribly annoying that it only serves to reenforce my currently held opinion...

I guess I should thank you for that, but I'm too busy being annoyed at your methods ;)

OMG, people doing perfectly legal things that you don't understand or like. It MUST be stopped, before any fun is had!!!!!
Kecibukia
28-02-2006, 19:35
One of these representatives is Linda Chapa LaVia who is from the Aurora area. In a recent newspaper article, Chapa LaVia claimed that she opposed HB2414. However, Chapa LaVia is signed on as a Co-Sponsor of HB2414.

http://www.isra.org/

And from King Dick:

Daley has also made misleading statements about the facts in this matter. He said that these weapons can fire 30 rounds within five or six seconds. I’m not sure how they calculated this figure because every semi-automatic weapon requires a pull of the trigger for every shot. I think it’s hard for almost anyone to pull their finger 30 times within 5 to 6 seconds. Try it and see how you do.

http://www.thedepaulia.com/story.asp?artid=1330&sectid=4




But I'm just being boorish I guess.
Syniks
28-02-2006, 19:43
*shakes head*

The Anti-gun types just don't know how to run their dirty tricks right.
What's even more funny is that the Daley Machine is involved... and they still screwed it up.