NationStates Jolt Archive


Blu-ray or HD-DVD?

New Genoa
28-02-2006, 01:27
Which shall overtake the digital versatile disc?
Tremerica
28-02-2006, 01:32
HD-DVD, the VHS is on the way out and I've never heard of the other one.
The Infinite Dunes
28-02-2006, 01:38
The worst one. Humans have recently developed a habit of choosing the worst of all available technological options - mostly due to the ability of the marketing department. The anomally is the DVD, because the competitors decided to work together to create a single format. I can't remember which version is Sony's, but that one will probably win out. And I think I read that is wasn't as good as the other version, which seemed to be coming from an unlikely bunch.

edit: Yeah, HD-DVD was from Toshiba, NEC and Sanyo. And Blu-ray was from Sony (should have realised as it had the more snazzy name :rolleyes:). Interestingly enough HD-DVD is getting backing from Microsoft, HP, and Intel. This race might not be so clear cut.
Man in Black
28-02-2006, 01:41
Blu-Ray is the Sony version, and it holds more info than any of its competitors. More is better. I vote Blu-Ray.
The Infinite Dunes
28-02-2006, 01:50
HD DVD is less technologically advanced, yet it is more developed. So it is closer to commercial release, the relevant equipment will probably be cheaper as it is less HD DVD is less technologically demanding, plus HD DVD doesn't seem to be prone to damage from scratches as Blu-ray is. HD DVD, if it doesn't screw up its marketing, will win.
Tremerica
28-02-2006, 01:56
Well HD-DVD is winning the race in Canada, or at least the part I'm from. This is the first I've ever heard of Blu-Ray.
AIChE
28-02-2006, 02:00
HD DVD is less technologically advanced, yet it is more developed. So it is closer to commercial release, the relevant equipment will probably be cheaper as it is less HD DVD is less technologically demanding, plus HD DVD doesn't seem to be prone to damage from scratches as Blu-ray is. HD DVD, if it doesn't screw up its marketing, will win.

HD-DVD.....15 GB + Microsoft backing
Blu-ray.......25 GB + Apple/Sony backing.......and costs much more.

Seems very similar to the Windows/Mac (I'm sure that's hard to imagine) situation where one product was made for the masses (cheap but slightly less in quality), the other for those looking for latest innovation and willing to pony up the dough. I'm with the masses.......HD-DVD. I just have a nagging suspision that by the time blu-ray finally lowers its price to be a good competitor, there will already be another product at the end of the pipeline.
Kibolonia
28-02-2006, 02:11
Blu-Ray is the Sony version, and it holds more info than any of its competitors. More is better. I vote Blu-Ray.
Not a lot more at the end of the upgrade path. And while both are even more restricive in what you can do with your movie than good old DVD, Blu-ray is just horrific. HD-DVD is making an effort to work at remaining usable to consumers, though nominal it might be. The modest technical edge that Blue-ray has is more than overshadowed by the DRM that it's encumbered with. Though that may ultimately be true for both formats.
The Infinite Dunes
28-02-2006, 02:18
Bah, the 'disc' will eventually become obsolete. The internet economy will continue to make steady progress and films will be downloaded from suppliers direct on to Hard drives.
Rejistania
28-02-2006, 02:19
Both formats have far too restrictive DRM so I hope VHS will come back! No stupid DRM issues as in DVDs or the new formats.
AIChE
28-02-2006, 02:30
Bah, the 'disc' will eventually become obsolete. The internet economy will continue to make steady progress and films will be downloaded from suppliers direct on to Hard drives.

Good point, and that seems to be where things will eventually be. In the meantime...
The Infinite Dunes
28-02-2006, 02:32
Both formats have far too restrictive DRM so I hope VHS will come back! No stupid DRM issues as in DVDs or the new formats.I'm not quite sure why DRM is such an issue. Probably because I don't understand it properly. I know that you can circumvent DRM on mp4s by connecting your line in to your line out and getting a program to record your line in (which will be subsequently free of DRM.
Rejistania
28-02-2006, 02:35
HDTV can restrict analog and unencrypted output, so no.
The Tribes Of Longton
28-02-2006, 02:39
I'm voting VHS or BETA.

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Rejistania
28-02-2006, 02:41
I'm voting VHS or BETA.

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For the same reasons as me?
The South Islands
28-02-2006, 02:45
I'm voting VHS or BETA.

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BETA is teh W00T!!!

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The Tribes Of Longton
28-02-2006, 02:46
For the same reasons as me?
Unfortunately not I'm afraid.

BEHOLD, THE BAND BEARING THAT NAME! (http://www.vhsorbeta.com/main.html)

Who I possibly don't like that much. But yeah, apart from constantly wearing out and having to realign tape heads, go VHS!

Plus I'm also a secret luddite, so I'm voting the most backward option possible.