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I say the N64. You?

I say the N64. You?

The 3DO was 100 times worse than the 64

besides the 64 has had some of the best games in the last 10 years w/Goldeneye, Zelda, Mario 64, Mario Kart 64, etc.

The 3DO was 100 times worse than the 64

besides the 64 has had some of the best games in the last 10 years w/Goldeneye, Zelda, Mario 64, Mario Kart 64, etc.
Mario Sucks.

the playstation 2 and 1. Unless you're not a hardcore gamer. Then they're the best. They're superior casual consoles, with the vast range of games, but I find the X-box, N64 and GC do games "better".

The 3DO was 100 times worse than the 64

besides the 64 has had some of the best games in the last 10 years w/Goldeneye, Zelda, Mario 64, Mario Kart 64, etc.

yeah the games balance out the crappiness.

i would go with. . . sega genesis. no reason, i just did not like it.

the playstation 2 and 1. Unless you're not a hardcore gamer. Then they're the best. They're superior casual consoles, with the vast range of games, but I find the X-box, N64 and GC do games "better".
but the PC is better than all consoles.

yeah the games balance out the crappiness.

i would go with. . . sega genesis. no reason, i just did not like it.


Yeah I also forgot Super Smash Bros for 64 another great game. GC version is much better :D


I also wasn't a big fan of the genesis, some good games, mostly shitty ones. Biggest flaw of the genesis to me was the controller. Always enjoyed the SNES controller more.


Mario Sucks.
You suck :p :D

j/k

Out of the recent wave (XBOX, PS2, GameCube) I'd say the GameCube. I own it and I regret buying it with every video game.

but the PC is better than all consoles.

Well duh, but that's not the question. Everyone knows that PC games are the best, technologically and gameplaywise. Especially when it comes to strategy and role-players, and FPS. Wait. It doesn't do racing and beatemups so well, but everything else it excels. That's easier than listing everything it does right.

yeah the games balance out the crappiness.

i would go with. . . sega genesis. no reason, i just did not like it.
The N64 did not have that many good games either. Face, the N64 was very far behind at its time, and its just crap

Yeah I also forgot Super Smash Bros for 64 another great game. GC version is much better :D

or my personal n64/gc favorite: mario tennis.

pure addictive gaming at its finest. (esp. power tennis; weird game types are addictive too)

Out of the recent wave (XBOX, PS2, GameCube) I'd say the GameCube. I own it and I regret buying it with every video game.

Gamecube definitely is teh worswt of the 3 but still has some great games

Metroid Prime / Prime 2
Resident Evil 4
Super Smash Bros
Windwaker (I enjoyed it)

others im sure im forgetting, but let's hope the revolution will be better.

or my personal n64/gc favorite: mario tennis.

pure addictive gaming at its finest. (esp. power tennis; weird game types are addictive too)


Mario Tennis! a hidden gem of the nintendo 64 never played teh GC version is it any better/worse?


the 3DO definitely should have been put on this poll. along with the atari jaguar.
suprised to not see on the poll....

Mario Tennis! a hidden gem of the nintendo 64 never played teh GC version is it any better/worse?

ah, that game was good, then it became bad. I used to rule at it, then, I stopped for months. Someone brought it up and we played, and was soundly beaten. I hated that game from then on. Mind you, Shyguy ruled. What way was he gonna go? Who knows.

CD32. It had good technology and some games were ok (Zool and the Chaos Engine) but it didn't have the support of the parent company and ultimately didn't have a good market run.

It was mostly bought by Amiga enthusiasts.

Gamecube definitely is teh worswt of the 3 but still has some great games

Metroid Prime / Prime 2
Resident Evil 4
Super Smash Bros
Windwaker (I enjoyed it)

others im sure im forgetting, but let's hope the revolution will be better.
I think windwaker was the worst zelda game.

I think windwaker was the worst zelda game.

I still think Majoras Mask was the worst. Windwaker second.

Majoras Mask aggrevated me so.

I still think Majoras Mask was the worst.
Yeahright. But the Limited save thing was a joke.

I still think Majoras Mask was the worst.

I loved that game, so freaky, yet awesome. Windwaker is the clear worst for me. I liked the dungeons, they were good. It was about half way through the game it got crap for me.

I enjoyed the combat of windwaker, but damn that sailing drove me nuts.

My favorite zelda right now is the Minnish Cap, and Link to the Past.

I loved that game, so freaky, yet awesome. Windwaker is the clear worst for me. I liked the dungeons, they were good. It was about half way through the game it got crap for me.

And the graphics were crap. Don't forget that.

And the graphics were crap. Don't forget that.


And all the crap you had to go through to get a mask that you would only use for 5 minutes total in the game was just too annoying.

I enjoyed the combat of windwaker, but damn that sailing drove me nuts.

My favorite zelda right now is the Minnish Cap, and Link to the Past.
The combat sucked too.

And the graphics were crap. Don't forget that.

Nope, I liked the graphical style, and it was very smooth and flowing. Nothing wrong with them in my eyes. I just didn't like the way the game progressed.

Okay. lets get back on topic plz.

Nope, I liked the graphical style, and it was very smooth and flowing. Nothing wrong with them in my eyes. I just didn't like the way the game progressed.
The graphcs were crap. now lets get get back on topic.

Well duh, but that's not the question. Everyone knows that PC games are the best, technologically and gameplaywise. Especially when it comes to strategy and role-players, and FPS. Wait. It doesn't do racing and beatemups so well, but everything else it excels. That's easier than listing everything it does right.

Consoles are better than PCs for:

1. Racing games
2. Fighting games
3. Sports games

virtual boy

Dreamcast, but since that lacks as an option; Gamecube.

Dreamcast, but since that lacks as an option; Gamecube.

The Dreamcast was amazing! sega just fucked it up is all. I'd say the PS2 is the worst just because it is the most technologically weak of its generation. The SNES/mrgadrive were on a par, and the Saturn/PS1/N64. THe PS2 is not only lame but it drags down the quality of Xbox and especially PC games by forcing multi format developers to give games shit graphics. And since the games look shit they dont bother with kickass gameplay because they wont get any credit anyway. There are some exceptions, such as shadow of the colossus, but for the most part the ps2 is a disgrace.

Consoles are better than PCs for:

1. Racing games
2. Fighting games
3. Sports games
PCs are better then consoles for everything else.

Wow Swilatia, you're like a guy who makes some ridiculous, half-brained comment then says he won't bother to read any comments about it. Except you do read the comment then say the exact same thing as if you're actually proving a point.

Consoles are better than PCs for:

1. Racing games

Depends what you call a racing game. If for you a racing game is one with cars that go vroom, vroom; then, yes, consoles are better. If it's realistic physics and cars that you actually have to drive on tracks that you actually have to learn how to drive, then PCs are much, much, much better.

No console game holds a candle to the likes of GTR racing, GT legends or rFactor.

I say the N64. You?

you're wrong.

No console game holds a candle to the likes of GTR racing, GT legends or rFactor.

but not a single one of those involves either banana peels or blue sparks

but not a single one of those involves either banana peels or blue sparks
That's what a I said that it depends what you mean by racing game :)

Depends what you call a racing game. If for you a racing game is one with cars that go vroom, vroom; then, yes, consoles are better. If it's realistic physics and cars that you actually have to drive on tracks that you actually have to learn how to drive, then PCs are much, much, much better.

No console game holds a candle to the likes of GTR racing, GT legends or rFactor.

Gran Turismo started on console, didn't it?

Gran Turismo started on console, didn't it?
And you really think you can compare Gran Turismo to GTR?

Console games are, for the most part, uninspired pieces of shit. The consoles themselves are inferior to a customized gaming rig.

i would go with. . . sega genesis. no reason, i just did not like it.Heretic! The Mega Drive/Genesis was awesome! Such wonderful hardware... (the SMD/Genesis model 2 however, is an evil abomination compared to the greatness of model 1) Especially the YM-2612, the single most awesome sound chip ever to appear in a game console! Don't you just love that extremely synthetic sound, where LFO'ed triangular waves and cold, sterile samples are mixed with ones that seem to have been saturated to death many times over? It also has it's share of games among the greatest ever. (not as many as the ones for the SNES, but no doubt second to it) [/on purpose overdone rant]


As for the worst console, I would say the N64. While it had some great games, some of the hardware was simply horrible. Especially the unforgivable controllers. I swear that they were designed that way on purpose, so that merely using them carefully would very soon cause part of the joystick's innards to dissolve into fine, plastic dust, resulting in it becoming looser and looser, and litterally weakening your control until the game characters can only walk very slowly no matter how hard you push the joystick. That way, people are forced to regularly buy new controllers. [/more-than-slightly less overdone rant]

As for the worst console, I would say the N64. While it had some great games, some of the hardware was simply horrible. Especially the unforgivable controllers. I swear that they were designed that way on purpose, so that merely using them carefully would very soon cause part of the joystick's innards to dissolve into fine, plastic dust, resulting in it becoming looser and looser, and litterally weakening your control until the game characters can only walk very slowly no matter how hard you push the joystick. That way, people are forced to regularly buy new controllers. [/more-than-slightly less overdone rant]

Eh, my N64 controllers still work fine....well...except for that one I got syrup on....But other than that!

phillip CD i, God! it was awful!

you dont judge a console for its hardware, but for its games.

the controlers were fine, they just looked ugly

what i would really like is the code name revolution coming this year.

err... bye

ps2 sux, to many frickin buttons, ps2:sniper:

I've never seen a pentuple post before. Nice work The Emperialist.

the x-box
olny has two good games
halo and halo 2.

Sorry but the absolute worst console ever built( and it has been mentioned) is the Phillips CD-i. Probably the most incredibly stupid games ever put on disc.
As for the debate between PC and console, I have mixed opinions. I agree that a PC can (for the time being) produce a better game in most genres. Yet, the cost of a really good PC capable of playing and taking advantage of these better games is prohibitive in comparison to a console. There are also issues of simplicity. Consoles are definately easier to plug in and play. Sometimes a PC game needs tweaking that most people don't want to or don't know how to bother with.
Personally, I prefer PC games. I own a PS2 and I love it too. I play them both.

ps2 sux, to many frickin buttons, ps2:sniper:


Really? I wish there were more!

out of the current consoles which i all bought. the PS2 was by far the worst.

all of the games were crappy remakes of a popular game. and 90% of the games were just crap. i played it for about 2 years and went through about 100 games (i work for a game rental store) and i found like 2 out of the 100 that were fun.

and those 2 games were fun for ONE playthrough.

the xbox i found myself playing over and over again after i beat it. sure it has its share of bad games. but i found that the good games were just so damn fun that i could play them at least 4 times and still find joy in the game.

then theres Halo 2 which is the only console game that i see that is STILL widely played even after a year and a half. no other console game comes close to the greatness of it due to its replayability. hell GTA was good but i stoped playing it after 3 months. Final fantasy X was fine but it took like 6 hours to beat it (100% game rental there.. dont buy it rent it!)

the GC was awesome as well. every game i bought for the console was badass as nitendo makes some quality games. im a huge Mario/zelda fan, and even though i mainly played just those games, it felt worth it.

The N64 did not have that many good games either. Face, the N64 was very far behind at its time, and its just crap
Actually I'd say that some of the developers for the N64 were either behind the times or quite incompetent. When done properly, games on the N64 were quite capable of being superb. Games like Goldeneye, Ocarina of Time, Jet Force Gemini, Mario Kart, Mario Tennis and such were some of the great games of all time. Shadows of the Empire kept me enthralled as a middle schooler, and I Of course, there were plenty of shit games out there, but there are always going to be shit games. The N64 was never capable of fielding a quality RPG, which is why I never did wind up as a regular player of RPGs. The controller was somewhat too ambitious and complex for anyone with only two hands, but it was manageable, and I still treasure the controller I got in the box with the system, and remains the the Number one controller slot on the system.

Out and out the 3DO is the absolute worst system ever.

you dont judge a console for its hardware, but for its games.The games are by far the most important thing, but once the hardware reduces the playability, it should be taken into the account.

Eh, my N64 controllers still work fine....well...except for that one I got syrup on....But other than that!What happens is very gradual. Basically, whenever you move the joystick, a very, very tiny speck of plastic is grinded into dust. If you don't use them too often, it can take a year or two before you can see it, and even longer before it has an impact on the usability of the controller. If you use it for hours every day, it doesn't take too long before it gets noticeable. (in any game where the speed of a character you control is determined by how far you push the joystick, the character will begin to walk slower)

In order to find out exactly how worn-out the joystick is, hold it between your fingers and see how far you can move it around without actually having to push it. On a unused controller, you can't move it more that way than a millimeter or two. Once the "loose range" extends beyond about a cm, it will gradually become noticeable. With a fully worn-out joystick, it is completely loose, and by just shaking the controller, you can move it within the whole range.

The games are by far the most important thing, but once the hardware reduces the playability, it should be taken into the account.Also, I don't by any means judge it only by the hardware. If it had many great games, that would more than compensate for it. But the truly great N64 games are few.

The XBox blows. Final word. >.>
Well, not really the final word, but, I've never really liked anything I've played on it, and two games- one that is the sequel to another, too- can not hold up an entire console.
However, PS1 and PS2 really aren't that bad. It seems to depend a lot on what you start with and get used to. I used to HATE gamecube/N64 controllers, but I ADORE Zelda and can switch between PS2 and Gamecube controllers pretty easily at this point, but it used to be so uncomfortable.
I love the FF series, and most of the RPGs on the PS2.
Also, at least consoles will pretty dependably play your games. PCs? The cost, and their instability.. Windows sucks. The memory you take up with a good game, the flat keyboard... They need more games for Mac.
And, you have to give nintendo credit, too. They have given us some good machines and some awesome games. Xbox? Yeah okay whatever.

Out of the list, the PS1. I can't think of one decent game on there that wasn't ported to other systems where they looked (and usually played) 10,000 times better. The controller was pretty decent though, i'll give it that.

Apart from that, the Virtual Boy.

Apart from that, the Virtual Boy.

damn straight.

i want to know when they realized how bad it was

i would go with. . . sega genesis. no reason, i just did not like it.

I agree with you on that one. For some reason I can't name...it just sucked major donkey penis.

Mario Sucks.

Mario may suck, but Mario Kart kicks ass. As long as I am the mushroom, I am unbeatable!

damn straight.

i want to know when they realized how bad it was

I've never actually played one, though. They never bothered to release it here.

I've never actually played one, though. They never bothered to release it here.

well, there's part of the answer. they figured out it was bad before the australian release date, but after they built the thing.

it was awesome in it's terribleness. firstly, it was this huge thing on it's own stand. which meant that it was at precisely the wrong height and angle no matter how you tried. and then it was just hard to look at even if you got yourself situated well enough. the red lines man, the red lines!

Mario Tennis! a hidden gem of the nintendo 64 never played teh GC version is it any better/worse?


the 3DO definitely should have been put on this poll. along with the atari jaguar.
suprised to not see on the poll....

Correct.

I remember the Jauar well. I remember the name 3DO but I forgot most of the system

There was a Black and red Nintendo VR system out a while back too.

There was a Black and red Nintendo VR system out a while back too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Boy

I agree with the Virtual Boy votes. It was a bad idea from the start.

Of today's consoles, the only one I don't own is the XBox, so I guess I'd say that. None of it's games have ever interested me. My GC, however, is my Precious.

Consoles are better than PCs for:

1. Racing games
2. Fighting games
3. Sports games
I just buy a controler for my PC. I need a computer anyhow, so why bother with consoles? They already have internet, gotta have it for school and research, messengers, e-mail, keeping recipies, and er...um...yeah that. :p

I play PC-games, but prefer consoles. If nothing else for the pleasure of sitting in my couch watching a TV. I dislike playing on a computer moniter. Also, with consoles, you never have to worry about hardware/compatibility issues.

The GX4000 was utter shit (UK only I think)

well, there's part of the answer. they figured out it was bad before the australian release date, but after they built the thing.

it was awesome in it's terribleness. firstly, it was this huge thing on it's own stand. which meant that it was at precisely the wrong height and angle no matter how you tried. and then it was just hard to look at even if you got yourself situated well enough. the red lines man, the red lines!

Hahaha. I kinda want one, just for the novelty value. "Hey guys! check this out! VR!"

*10 minutes later*

"...my neck hurts"

Hahaha. I kinda want one, just for the novelty value. "Hey guys! check this out! VR!"

*10 minutes later*

"...my neck hurts"

Dude, with the way the VB's built, your neck gets sharp pains within half a minute. I'm not kidding --- I used one at Toys 'R' Us back when it was first released.

Oh, and along with the bad neck pains, you got red lasers burned in your retinas!

you're wrong.
Ever heard of an opinion??

but not a single one of those involves either banana peels or blue sparks
I find it good that they are not as stupid.

I play PC-games, but prefer consoles. If nothing else for the pleasure of sitting in my couch watching a TV. I dislike playing on a computer moniter. Also, with consoles, you never have to worry about hardware/compatibility issues.
but you do have to worry about having to buy new consoles all thr time.

The Gamecube, I laughed at it when it came out and I laugh at it still.

but you do have to worry about having to buy new consoles all thr time.

Every three-four years or so, but the same holds true for computers if you want to keep up with the PC-game industry. And buying a new PC just for games costs a helluvalot more than a console.

But to each his own, I guess. I play the games that I like, regardless of platform. That means that I play my GC most, some PS2, and a handfull of PC games (mostly KOTOR I and II, Morrowind, and Planescape Torment lately).

The Gamecube, I laughed at it when it came out and I laugh at it still.

Aye, they really need to stop fucking with the controller setup.

Have you seen the one for the Revolution? It's in two bloody pieces that look bizzare.

I thought I had seen that Nintendo was struggling, but I would suppose not if the dickheads are doing such "innovative" things that all but fanboys will hate.

I don't like the PlayStation. I realise the rest of the world disagrees with me, but the controllers are too small and fiddly. I have an old-school full-size X-Box controller for my PC. Best controller since the 6-button Megadrive pad! It's great :)

Oh, the PC can do proper racing games, like GT Legends ;P

The Virtual Boy probably wins for pure rubbishness, though.

I don't like the PlayStation. I realise the rest of the world disagrees with me, but the controllers are too small and fiddly. I have an old-school full-size X-Box controller for my PC. Best controller since the 6-button Megadrive pad! It's great :)




You win for correctness. I hate the new X-box controller, too tiny. And the playstation was just not a good console in terms of awesome games.

Dude, with the way the VB's built, your neck gets sharp pains within half a minute. I'm not kidding --- I used one at Toys 'R' Us back when it was first released.

Oh, and along with the bad neck pains, you got red lasers burned in your retinas!

Forget having it for novelty value, I want it for a torture device!

"So Mr Bond...look at the dancing stripper...look...look closely now..." *sssss*
"ARGHHH!!!"

Aye, they really need to stop fucking with the controller setup.

Have you seen the one for the Revolution? It's in two bloody pieces that look bizzare.

They're just milking the consumer for everything they got with that controller with all the attachments. Such attachments will be sold seperately and necessary to play your favorite Nintendo games. Nintendo likes your money.

That and they haven't put out a new title in forever and an enternity. I think Eve was kicked out of Eden for playing Mario Bro. 3 really.

Actually I'd say that some of the developers for the N64 were either behind the times or quite incompetent. When done properly, games on the N64 were quite capable of being superb. Games like Goldeneye, Ocarina of Time, Jet Force Gemini, Mario Kart, Mario Tennis and such were some of the great games of all time. Shadows of the Empire kept me enthralled as a middle schooler, and I Of course, there were plenty of shit games out there, but there are always going to be shit games. The N64 was never capable of fielding a quality RPG, which is why I never did wind up as a regular player of RPGs. The controller was somewhat too ambitious and complex for anyone with only two hands, but it was manageable, and I still treasure the controller I got in the box with the system, and remains the the Number one controller slot on the system.

Out and out the 3DO is the absolute worst system ever.


Completely agree there, except the atari jaguar should be alongside the 3DO