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and your lunch, potentially (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4743354.stm).
A man who raped his unconscious teenage stepdaughter as she lay dying from a head injury has been jailed for nine years at the High Court in Glasgow.

Sentencing Judge Lord Philip told George McKee, 50, he had committed an "appalling crime" which filled members of the public with "horror".

McKee admitted raping Kerry Muchan, 14, in her Paisley home on 23 July, 2005 while she was unconscious.

Kerry died soon after the rape from a head injury caused by a fall.
Words fail me.

my faith in humanity was lost a long time ago, but this just makes it even worse.

This is a close second to the thread about the lady who cut the arms off of her 10 month old baby and let it lay in its crib to die.

Both of these are truely unspeakable.

It doesn't make me lose my faith in humanity, only my lunch. :(

The most disgusting part of it all is that the sick fuck who did this got 9 years. The guy is not only evil but also insane to the highest degree. The only question that should be being asked is how much padding he needs around him.

Can't lose what I never had.

But I have a morbid question to ask;

Did he rape her after he called the police and was waiting for the ambulance, or did he raper her then call, or did he call at all?

Might make a difference in his sentencing. :p

Edit: I read the article. Answered my question. 9 years doesn't seem like enough.

Too bad he wasn't smoking some pot while doing it, he would be in jail for a realistic amount of time.

You assume we had faith in humanity to begin with.

Lord Philip said: "Any sentence I impose has to reflect the revulsion and horror society feels at this kind of behaviour."


Then why did he only sentence him to 9 years??

Can't lose what I never had.

But I have a morbid question to ask;

Did he rape her after he called the police and was waiting for the ambulance, or did he raper her then call, or did he call at all?

Might make a difference in his sentencing. :p
Didn't call at all. He was found in bed with her by some relatives, who then called the police.

Too bad he wasn't smoking some pot while doing it, he would be in jail for a realistic amount of time.

You assume we had faith in humanity to begin with.

Without pot = 9 years
With pot = Life Sentence

What a wonderful justice system we live in, ladies and gentlemen. :rolleyes:

There was a psychology book out last year that attested that one in twenty people in society have no conscience and that these people are just playing along until they see an opening to do whatever the hell they like. I can’t remember the exact title of the book, but it really made a lot of sense when you think about all the aweful things that happened in the past and continue to happen today.

I think that guy can be called evil.

HE ONLY GOT 9 YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THATS IT 9 YEARS?
THAT IS APPALING!:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :headbang: :headbang:

if i could have it my way he would get a life sentance after having his croch attacked by a rabid dog, no medical treatment and definantly no pain killer or anisthetic

Without pot = 9 years
With pot = Life Sentence

What a wonderful justice system we live in, ladies and gentlemen. :rolleyes:

It should be closer to:

With pot: 30 years
Without pot: Life

I've talked to a few ex-inmates.... they say rapist and child abusers are generally looked at lower then murders and drug dealers.... will it get him killed, probably not.... will it get him made the bitch of some young inner city thug.... sure.......

If You Think That Is Horrific, You Should See Some Of My Sick Fantasies Come To Life. Some Involve Hanging A Person By One Square Inch Of Their Body With Wire.

If You Think That Is Horrific, You Should See Some Of My Sick Fantasies Come To Life. Some Involve Hanging A Person By One Square Inch Of Their Body With Wire.

What?

If You Think That Is Horrific, You Should See Some Of My Sick Fantasies Come To Life. Some Involve Hanging A Person By One Square Inch Of Their Body With Wire.
Does It Involve Forcing Your Victim To Read A 4,000 Page Book Where Every Single Friggin Word Is Capitalized? :p

If You Think That Is Horrific, You Should See Some Of My Sick Fantasies Come To Life. Some Involve Hanging A Person By One Square Inch Of Their Body With Wire.
Too inane with no sense of realism/detail. That and the capitalization are definitely forcing me into the "Don't make me get your mother" category of response.

What?
Try This. Have A Person Stand On A Box .Take A Wire. Turn It Into A Lasso. Tie The Long End To The Ceiling. Then Put The Lasso End Around The Persons Nipple. Tighten It. Make Sure It Will Not Come Off By Itself. Then Have Them Step Off The Box. Use Your Imagination From There. Then Do That With The Other Nipple, Then With Each Of Their Fingers, Then With Each Of Their Toes, Then, If Its A Man, With His Penis. Oh, And Make Sure To Enjoy It.

If You Think That Is Horrific, You Should See Some Of My Sick Fantasies Come To Life. Some Involve Hanging A Person By One Square Inch Of Their Body With Wire.

Will someone please teach this person some proper English.

9 years?!?!?! That's retarted!!! That man should have been executed on the spot!!

Will someone please teach this person some proper English.
Believe Me, Considering Some Of The Other People I've Seen On This Forum, My Only Problem Is Capitalizing Every Word. I'm Sure I Have Made Minimal Grammar (Besides The Obvious) And Spelling Mistakes.

I will lose faith in anyone who is still against the death penalty after this. :mad:

That SOB should be shot dead. He's breathing good peoples oxygen.

I will lose faith in anyone who is still against the death penalty after this. :mad:

That SOB should be shot dead. He's breathing good peoples oxygen.
shoting him would be to nice...i think that the rack or drawn and quartered would work well

Try This. Have A Person Stand On A Box .Take A Wire. Turn It Into A Lasso. Tie The Long End To The Ceiling. Then Put The Lasso End Around The Persons Nipple. Tighten It. Make Sure It Will Not Come Off By Itself. Then Have Them Step Off The Box. Use Your Imagination From There. Then Do That With The Other Nipple, Then With Each Of Their Fingers, Then With Each Of Their Toes, Then, If Its A Man, With His Penis. Oh, And Make Sure To Enjoy It.

What in hells name does this have to do with the thread topic? It's about an unconcious injured girl being raped by her stepfather and then she dies. Are you really in need of attention this badly? Make another thread if you want to discuss personal sick fantasies.

What in hells name does this have to do with the thread topic? It's about an unconcious injured girl being raped by her stepfather and then she dies. Are you really in need of attention this badly? Make another thread if you want to discuss personal sick fantasies.
No. I'm Just Saying I'm Suprised People Are Horrified By This. I Gave An Example Of Some Of My Fantasies, Just To Show People That This Story Is Nothing Compared To Some Other Things. Oh, And That One Fantasy Is A Mild Example.

Try This. Have A Person Stand On A Box .Take A Wire. Turn It Into A Lasso. Tie The Long End To The Ceiling. Then Put The Lasso End Around The Persons Nipple. Tighten It. Make Sure It Will Not Come Off By Itself. Then Have Them Step Off The Box. Use Your Imagination From There. Then Do That With The Other Nipple, Then With Each Of Their Fingers, Then With Each Of Their Toes, Then, If Its A Man, With His Penis. Oh, And Make Sure To Enjoy It.

Do you know how many inventors of new torture methods are the first victims of them? An eerily high number. :p

Believe Me, Considering Some Of The Other People I've Seen On This Forum, My Only Problem Is Capitalizing Every Word. I'm Sure I Have Made Minimal Grammar (Besides The Obvious) And Spelling Mistakes.

Good point. Back onto the topic.

Who's up for hanging him with razer wire by the wrists and have a go at his "sensitive" regions with a blow torch?

Try This. Have A Person Stand On A Box .Take A Wire. Turn It Into A Lasso. Tie The Long End To The Ceiling. Then Put The Lasso End Around The Persons Nipple. Tighten It. Make Sure It Will Not Come Off By Itself. Then Have Them Step Off The Box. Use Your Imagination From There. Then Do That With The Other Nipple, Then With Each Of Their Fingers, Then With Each Of Their Toes, Then, If Its A Man, With His Penis. Oh, And Make Sure To Enjoy It.

What do you want? Someone to say "OMG, seek therapy!"? Seriously, if you need attention this badly, why don't you go overdose on aspirin? I'm sure you'll enjoy the attention. Get over your infantile angst and stop trying to impress people with it.

Try This. Have A Person Stand On A Box .Take A Wire. Turn It Into A Lasso. Tie The Long End To The Ceiling. Then Put The Lasso End Around The Persons Nipple. Tighten It. Make Sure It Will Not Come Off By Itself. Then Have Them Step Off The Box. Use Your Imagination From There. Then Do That With The Other Nipple, Then With Each Of Their Fingers, Then With Each Of Their Toes, Then, If Its A Man, With His Penis. Oh, And Make Sure To Enjoy It.
Now, you see, there you've got detail, but the complete lack of realism lends you no favours. Only a teenager with no concept of sadism would conceive of a device so silly. If you simply must pretend that way, drop the lasso and go with fish hooks (plural), the "one lasso at a time" just sounds stupid (and is highly impractical/impossible with nipples, etc), but I suggest dropping the act entirely. Or at least get some good material: read deSade (Justine is good, but 120 Days of Soddom is better for pure sexual brutality).

Now, you see, there you've got detail, but the complete lack of realism lends you no favours. Only a teenager with no concept of sadism would conceive of a device so silly. If you simply must pretend that way, drop the lasso and go with fish hooks (plural), the "one lasso at a time" just sounds stupid (and is highly impractical/impossible with nipples, etc), but I suggest dropping the act entirely. Or at least get some good material: read deSade (Justine is good, but 120 Days of Soddom is better for pure sexual brutality).
As I Said, It Was A Fantasy. As In, It's Not Supposed To Be Realistic. And Read My Posts People. I'm Not Looking For Attention, Just Giving An Example Of How Mild This Story Is Compared To Something That Could Happen.

I will lose faith in anyone who is still against the death penalty after this. :mad:
He didn't kill the woman, she did that when she got wasted and tumbled down the stairs. Raping her was bad, and not calling the cops was worse, but neither offense merits death, especially since he was wasted as well.

Oh, And If You Want An Attention Whore, Look At Silence And Nothing.

He didn't kill the woman, she did that when she got wasted and tumbled down the stairs. Raping her was bad, and not calling the cops was worse, but neither offense merits death, especially since he was wasted as well.
I agree. As offended as I am by the actions, I don't see this rising to the level of the death penalty.

I agree. As offended as I am by the actions, I don't see this rising to the level of the death penalty.

nor does it mean we should condone barbarism, i.e., pointed comments about rabid dogs and lack of anaesthetic.

although that said, at what level SHOULD we condone barbarism? is it enough to simply lock someone up who kills hundreds? thousands? different topic, kindof interesting though...

As I Said, It Was A Fantasy. As In, It's Not Supposed To Be Realistic. And Read My Posts People. I'm Not Looking For Attention, Just Giving An Example Of How Mild This Story Is Compared To Something That Could Happen.

You admit that it isn't realistic and yet still claim it is something that could happen? That mixed with your extremely annoying and pointless use of capitals shows that you are indeed an attention whore. But (as you realize)you are nowhere near the attention whore of Silence and Nothing. But if you think about it, that just makes you a second rate attention whore.

Just Giving An Example Of How Mild This Story Is Compared To Something That Could Happen.
That Is Indeed An Idiotic Statement. Of course an imaginary thing may be more gruesome than something that actually happened - not to mention that we can imagine a cruelty that is phisically imposible. But, man, that kind of "reasoning" as an answer to real-life cruelty is pointing towards psychopathy. What is this about: "who can do more"?

No. I'm Just Saying I'm Suprised People Are Horrified By This. I Gave An Example Of Some Of My Fantasies, Just To Show People That This Story Is Nothing Compared To Some Other Things. Oh, And That One Fantasy Is A Mild Example.
uh huh...you answer the question. that is a fantasy. Ergo, not real.

This is.

back on topic, all I can say is wow. some people just make me stop and wonder. I wonder if the man is a sociopath maybe?

9 years? That's disgusting. Lock him up for life in a cold dark room in my opinion.

Too bad he wasn't smoking some pot while doing it, he would be in jail for a realistic amount of time.

You assume we had faith in humanity to begin with.
Glasgow.

Do they have the same drug laws there?

and all I can say is wow. some people just make me stop and wonder. I wonder if the man is a sociopath maybe?
I've already outlined how he, most definitely, isn't. Quit looking at him, and he'll go bother someone else.

I've already outlined how he, most definitely, isn't. Quit looking at him, and he'll go bother someone else.
sorry for the confusion. I meant the guy in the article.

I've already outlined how he, most definitely, isn't. Quit looking at him, and he'll go bother someone else.

Poor substitute for kidnapping him and hiding his corpse in a volcanic mudpot. :p

what's worse raping a dead girl or one thats alive, 9 years is enough,
9 years on the outside isnt long, on the inside its a very long time
the point of punishment is to teach wrong from right,
all jail sentences should be 5 years, if they are stll assesed to be a risk then keep them for another 5, so on and so forth

Poor substitute for kidnapping him and hiding his corpse in a volcanic mudpot. :p
I'll grab the duct tape...meet you in an hour.;)

nor does it mean we should condone barbarism, i.e., pointed comments about rabid dogs and lack of anaesthetic.

although that said, at what level SHOULD we condone barbarism? is it enough to simply lock someone up who kills hundreds? thousands? different topic, kindof interesting though...
if the comment i made about rabid dogs is barbarick then what is what that man did to his stepdaughter?

9 years? That's disgusting. Lock him up for life in a cold dark room in my opinion.

castrated. DEFINITELY castrated. Men like this don't deserve to have anything they can possibly use against women. This is actually a pretty good punishment for male rapists. You rape people, you get castrated and locked up.

The most disgusting part of it all is that the sick fuck who did this got 9 years. The guy is not only evil but also insane to the highest degree. The only question that should be being asked is how much padding he needs around him.

padding is for their protection, i dont think he deserves such luxury

what's worse raping a dead girl or one thats alive, 9 years is enough
If he just decided to get frisky with the corpse, then I would have no problem with it (it also wouldn't be rape, as a corpse is, by definition, no longer a living object and no longer has any rights). More power to him, in fact, far too many corpses are wasted by simple burial.
However, she was still alive when the police found her the next morning. If he had called the police/ambulance instead of dragging her to bed, the girl might have lived.

Not to sound bigoted or taking advantage of this tragic news; but is this an example of the 'heterosexual lifestyle' that I see bigots here promote as being superior to being being the quiet homo living in the suburbs, minding my own business?

So whilst we have Farwell screaming about the perceived sins of homosexuality, he keeps quiet when these crims occur on a regular basis but are not reported.

if the comment i made about rabid dogs is barbarick then what is what that man did to his stepdaughter?
Brutesque, and that isn't the point. If you (as a society) want to be able to punish someone for wrong-doing (not involving revenge, of course, which is action on the part of the wronged party), then you have to maintain yourself above them. If, however, you sink to petty barbarism, then their actions are simply a matter of holding a mirror up to your own.
You get off on cruelty and bloodshed, so did Ted Bundy. Sure, the girls he raped/murdered never did anything to hurt him, but this man never did anything to you, either. The father simply became part of a "different" class than you, and for that you are willing to set dogs on him and castrate him.

and your lunch, potentially (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4743354.stm).

Words fail me.


Bad... but people have done much, much worse things.

Only nine years? Should be a lot more.

Words fail me.
*reiterates statement*

If he just decided to get frisky with the corpse, then I would have no problem with it (it also wouldn't be rape, as a corpse is, by definition, no longer a living object and no longer has any rights). More power to him, in fact, far too many corpses are wasted by simple burial.
However, she was still alive when the police found her the next morning. If he had called the police/ambulance instead of dragging her to bed, the girl might have lived.
Ewww, necrophilia!:eek: We could just donate corpses to scientific study; we don't have to use them as sexual toys.:headbang:

The most disgusting part of it all is that the sick fuck who did this got 9 years. The guy is not only evil but also insane to the highest degree. The only question that should be being asked is how much padding he needs around him.

He'd have gotten more time if he had let her live.

Smithers, release the hounds.

That is disgusting. In my opinion punishment isn't about teaching right from wrong or rehabilitation. Screw rehabilitation! Anyone who doesn't know that what this sick person did is wrong is most definitely criminally insane. He should be put away for life or shot.

Lost faith in humanity? Naw that is for people who seem to believe all people are worthy of some sort of salvation. This man is just one of the people who are detrimental to society and the human race as a whole. All it does is affirm my belief that the death penalty should always be an option. (Not in this particular case but this one does highlight the human trash that is out there) In this case this sicko just needs to be locked up. He'll get fucked up in prison and probably won't survive so I wouldn't worry about the 9 years being too short.

I havent lost faith in humanity ihave always know there where some sick people out there. And i think that he should have more than 9 years. MUCH! more.

This is digusting in the extreme.

I still don't believe in the death penalty but the guy should never see daylight again.

These kind of articles always lack crucial information - What was the man convicted of? Anything besides rape? And what is the maximum penalty he could have gotten?

That said, it was a truly despicable act.

Yes- I can agree that the OP's suject as well as the mother cutting off the babie's arms and others are truly reprehensible, shocking, enraging and disgusting.
They do fill the average person with both anger and sorrow.
I cant say I'll lose my faith in humanity,though.

Please keep in mind that for every horrendous unthinkable act perpetrated by these fucked-up individuals, there are likely many good,selfless deeds done that arent interesting enough to report.

For some reason, good news isnt that profitable. I dont understand that. I'll be honest- when I read about some sick bastard raping a mortally wounded girl or some sick bitch drowning her children one at a time, I'm not inspired to do something similar.

However, when I read about people going out of there way to assist other people- collect food, winter coats, money, etc... I AM inspired and like to get involved. I find myslef trying to encourage others to get involved too. Its like the good is contagious.

So,maybe next time you hear one of these horrible human acts, try to counter it by helping someone who desperately needs it. It might be a small effort for you, but make all the difference in someone else's comfort.

Good point. Back onto the topic.

Who's up for hanging him with razer wire by the wrists and have a go at his "sensitive" regions with a blow torch?

Who´s for displaying some sort of civilized behaviour, even in the face of horror?

How about we all agree that from now until death that anytime we are reading a thread and Rilitna* has posted, we will simply skip the reading of said post and continue on... I think it would do a lot for everyone's sanity, maybe even his...

and regarding the thread... its people like this who almost make me pro death penalty...

That's way past disturbing indeed! :eek:
That freak should be locked up in a funny farm for the rest of his miserable life after jail! :mad:

Ewww, necrophilia!:eek: We could just donate corpses to scientific study we don't have to use them as sexual toys.:headbang:
"We" could do anything, and "we" don't have to have anything other than the white-bread heterosexual, missionary position for the species to go on. Everything else is just "bonus", and if you don't happen to like someone else's "bonus", you don't have to partake.
And corpses are an infinite resources, so if we were to abandon stupid superstition about them, there would be more than enough to sate the appetites of every necrophile, medical researcher and taxodermist.

Who´s for displaying some sort of civilized behaviour, even in the face of horror?
That's no fun. Society needs an outlet for our own forbidden lusts, and the collective's sadism demands torture and death!

lmao! I'm sorry, but that's messed up!:D

I have a five cent solution for rapists.

A .45 ACP to the back of the head.

I have a five cent solution for rapists.

A .45 ACP to the back of the head.

What do you plan to with those found innocent on appeal?

This is horrific. I agree with the judge. But it doesn't make me lose my faith in humanity. Humanity is an odd mix. There are people who do do the most screwed up of acts, sometimee even thinking that what they are doing is right. But there also people who will give up significant parts of their lives for others or even their life. I know many people who fall into the latter category. Enough to make a view of the potential of humanity to be unshakeable. Though I I hear enough of the former to realise that that potential extends just as much the other way.

Hang him. Get rid of these damn psychos.

This is why we should have shot him on sight. This... "person"... he is evil, malicious, and insane to the highest degree possible. He should have been executed... slowly and painfully.

As for nine years, I have this to say.

THIS "JUSTICE" SYSTEM HAS GOT TO BE THE WORST ON THIS WHOLE EARTH!!! NINE YEARS? NINE YEARS?! THIS HAS GOT TO BE THE WORST I'VE EVER SEEN!!!

What an unspeakable act!

Faith in humanity: -100,000 Points. Humanity's current score? -200,000 Points.

Disgusting. This just shows how people are complete animals, anyone saying that people are good are idiots. The courts are obviously stupid too for only giving that asshole 9 years.

I bet his fellow inmates will make his stay quite pleasant... Should be some justice for that girl.

Indeed. Really... this is sickening... I really do have nausea right now.

What is all this "losing faith in humanity" business? There is something intensely ironic about the surprise at human "inhumanity" towards their fellow humans. This sort of morally bankrupt brutality is not inhuman by any measure; in fact it is one of our more profound defining characteristics. Try to imagine just how many outwardly normal and respectable people are a few strong drinks away from pummeling and raping the women they swore to "love." Everyone, and I mean everyone is capable of this or something equally as appalling, many are just a short stint of pure circumstance away from becoming the next news story that makes people "lose their faith in humanity." Try not to act so damn surprised.

Oh, and another thing; don't tolerate it. All of us have this ability; instead of selling ourselves to be willing slaves of the darker demons of our nature, how about harnessing the beast and redirecting it towards something useful... like dealing with this sort of scum.

What is all this "losing faith in humanity" business? There is something intensely ironic about the surprise at human "inhumanity" towards their fellow humans. This sort of morally bankrupt brutality is not inhuman by any measure; in fact it is one of our more profound defining characteristics. Try to imagine just how many outwardly normal and respectable people are a few strong drinks away from pummeling and raping the women they swore to "love." Everyone, and I mean everyone is capable of this or something equally as appalling, many are just a short stint of pure circumstance away from becoming the next news story that makes people "lose their faith in humanity." Try not to act so damn surprised.

Oh, and another thing; don't tolerate it. All of us have this ability; instead of selling ourselves to be willing slaves of the darker demons of our nature, how about harnessing the beast and redirecting it towards something useful... like dealing with this sort of scum.
I don't find it suprising in the least. It just reaffirms my belief that humanity is a lost cause. Was the guy still a few drinks away, or had he already had them? I was under the impression he was sober. Either way, he could have avoided either creating the appropriate circumstance for such an act or refused to succumb to circumstance. To do otherwise is to accept the demons and embrace their cause, which is sometimes rather alluring. I have a quote somewhere about evil people not really being evil because they want to be evil, but rather that they confuse evil for happiness. Many of us have difficulty understanding how he could do such a thing, but that is because those many have probably never truly given in to the dark forces, never felt their warm embrace flooding through them. Fighting evil with evil won't stop evil at all, but will put it to better use.

He doesn't need to be tortured horribly. He doesn't need to go to jail.
He doesn't need to be shot in the head, necessarily.
He just needs to be executed. Quickly. Some things are unforgivable. This is one of those things. It's pretty simple.
He has lost the right to live for taking her life, which he has done. And if you don't think of him as a murderer, consider this. If you saw someone drowning, and you happened to have the ability to reach down and save them, but you simply watched and got off on it, knowing they were probably going to die-- is that not murder? Allowing someone to die when you could prevent it with little harm to yourself?
Yeah. So, because he not only raped her, but she died, he should be executed.

He doesn't need to be tortured horribly. He doesn't need to go to jail.
He doesn't need to be shot in the head, necessarily.
He just needs to be executed. Quickly. Some things are unforgivable. This is one of those things. It's pretty simple.
He has lost the right to live for taking her life, which he has done. And if you don't think of him as a murderer, consider this. If you saw someone drowning, and you happened to have the ability to reach down and save them, but you simply watched and got off on it, knowing they were probably going to die-- is that not murder? Allowing someone to die when you could prevent it with little harm to yourself?
Yeah. So, because he not only raped her, but she died, he should be executed.
Why quickly? I think his tounge should be cut out so he can't speak while he is slowly tortured to death largely by inmates named Bubba anally raping him for days on end immediately following his conviction at what should be the shortest criminal trial ever held.

Why quickly? I think his tounge should be cut out so he can't speak while he is slowly tortured to death largely by inmates named Bubba anally raping him for days on end immediately following his conviction at what should be the shortest criminal trial ever held.

Because we're supposed to be better than that. Also, why waste the time and energy when dead is dead? He doesn't deserve to waste any air screaming. or breathing. or thinking. Or being alive.

okay, c'mon now, admit it. Some of you Eruos know you wish he commited that crime here in the US. We'd have killed him for it. :D

The CHAIR!!!!!!!

Give him the CHAIR!!!!!:D


At teh very least he'd spend the rest of his life playing catcher in a game of bunkbed baseball if he were here. :p

I think nine years should just about do it. If they put him in with the general prison population and make sure his fellow inmates know all the details. He would last about 9 weeks and that's only because his fellow inmates wouldn't want him to die quickly. Even hardened criminals have their limits and most of them don't tolerate that kind of abuse.

Because we're supposed to be better than that. Also, why waste the time and energy when dead is dead? He doesn't deserve to waste any air screaming. or breathing. or thinking. Or being alive.
Better than what? I exaggerated a lot with the anal rape; even I find that offensive. But the torture thing I think would be effective. People are less inclined to commit such atrocities if the punishment is a slow and painful death. And the torture would release energy from his corpse at a rate faster than simple decay. Time and air are always there and, therefore, cannot be wasted simply by existence, but rather the slow release of the energy into the natural cycle of life. The best reason, though, is to keep the other criminals/would-be-criminals in order. Oh, and killing him quickly grants him an easy escape from consequences. The torture would at least provide ample physical punishment to accompany his harsh otherworldly punishment upon his death, for the gods do not look kindly to rapists or murderers, and less so to both.

... Well, that's true...

But seriously, this man is guilty of MURDER! MURDER OF THE WORST TYPE POSSIBLE!

In my nation, boy, we'd have shot this man in the head, repeated times, until he had several clips in him. This is so unspeakable...

BTW, I meant in Pythogria, not Canada!

... Well, that's true...

But seriously, this man is guilty of MURDER! MURDER OF THE WORST TYPE POSSIBLE!

In my nation, boy, we'd have shot this man in the head, repeated times, until he had several clips in him. This is so unspeakable...

BTW, I meant in Pythogria, not Canada!
Are you sure you don't live in the first circle of Hell!? :p

and your lunch, potentially (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4743354.stm).

Words fail me.
And yet, you wonder why I carry a firearm. :rolleyes:

THe only reason more people DON'T die is because it's illegal to kill them... no matter how much it's deserved.

What faith in humanity?
Also, I missed lunch today.

And yet, you wonder why I carry a firearm. :rolleyes:

THe only reason more people DON'T die is because it's illegal to kill them... no matter how much it's deserved.
I think dueling should be reinstated. Monitored, but in practice. (where's the nodding emoticon when you need it?)

He doesn't need to be tortured horribly. He doesn't need to go to jail.
He doesn't need to be shot in the head, necessarily.
He just needs to be executed. Quickly. Some things are unforgivable. This is one of those things. It's pretty simple.
He has lost the right to live for taking her life, which he has done. And if you don't think of him as a murderer, consider this. If you saw someone drowning, and you happened to have the ability to reach down and save them, but you simply watched and got off on it, knowing they were probably going to die-- is that not murder? Allowing someone to die when you could prevent it with little harm to yourself?
Yeah. So, because he not only raped her, but she died, he should be executed.
See, I disagree with this execution is to good for him he needs to spend the rest of his life in a cement box alone with no outside contact and nothing to do, but reflect on how he wound up there for the rest of his natural life.

What faith in humanity?
The one you lost years ago.

And yet, you wonder why I carry a firearm. :rolleyes:
So that you can shoot someone when they fall down the stairs, thus being sure they are dead before you start in with the necrophilia? I know that discovering what I thought to be a corpse still had a pulse the next morning would be unnerving.

Somebody should push that guy down some stairs numerous times and then rape him. If he survives, he should casterated, decapitated, and have his balls shoved down his neck. He does not deserve to live or die a peaceful death.

See, I disagree with this execution is to good for him he needs to spend the rest of his life in a cement box alone with no outside contact and nothing to do, but reflect on how he wound up there for the rest of his natural life.
I doubt he has the capacity to care. You are right about the proposed quick execution though. I think it should be drawn-out and excrutiatingly painful. Placing him in the cement box is a waste of cement that could be used to sink political opponents to the bottom of international waters.

Somebody should push that guy down some stairs numerous times and then rape him. If he survives, he should casterated, decapitated, and have his balls shoved down his neck. He does not deserve to live or die a peaceful death.
Sounds almost acceptable. But who'd shove the balls down the neck. Even cheap hookers wouldn't touch that.

I doubt he has the capacity to care. You are right about the proposed quick execution though. I think it should be drawn-out and excrutiatingly painful. Placing him in the cement box is a waste of cement that could be used to sink political opponents to the bottom of international waters.
I was just using cement box as a euthamism for solitary confinment, and I would still say that even if he isn't capable of feeling remorse for his actions that being forced to live the rest of ones life without seeing anything outside of a single small room for the rest of ones days would be a fitting punishment.

I was just using cement box as a euthamism for solitary confinment, and I would still say that even if he isn't capable of feeling remorse for his actions that being forced to live the rest of ones life without seeing anything outside of a single small room for the rest of ones days would be a fitting punishment.
Solitary confinement isn't enough, he needs to be locked up with a convicted psycopathic rapist, and eat his own medicine.

Too bad he wasn't smoking some pot while doing it, he would be in jail for a realistic amount of time.

You assume we had faith in humanity to begin with.

and that's way the 'war' on drugs works!

Try This. Have A Person Stand On A Box .Take A Wire. Turn It Into A Lasso. Tie The Long End To The Ceiling. Then Put The Lasso End Around The Persons Nipple. Tighten It. Make Sure It Will Not Come Off By Itself. Then Have Them Step Off The Box. Use Your Imagination From There. Then Do That With The Other Nipple, Then With Each Of Their Fingers, Then With Each Of Their Toes, Then, If Its A Man, With His Penis. Oh, And Make Sure To Enjoy It.


Try this.
Post any of your sick fantasies here again, and get deleted.
WARNED.

Solitary confinement isn't enough, he needs to be locked up with a convicted psycopathic rapist, and eat his own medicine.

but, if we make that a policy then that will free up enough money to ether lower taxs or final improve education.... :rolleyes:

Do you know how many inventors of new torture methods are the first victims of them? An eerily high number. :p
Exactly how do you know this? Wait,Wait..I don't want to know.

The most disgusting part of it all is that the sick fuck who did this got 9 years. The guy is not only evil but also insane to the highest degree. The only question that should be being asked is how much padding he needs around him.

Insane is a legal term, which basically means you were psychologically disturbed enough at the moment the crime was committed you can't be held responsible. He's not insane. Psychologically disturbed? Probably.

But yes, it's ridiculous how we, in my opinion, give sex offenders such light sentences. I've always said that they should get the death penalty.

As for losing my faith in humanity....I haven't had any in a very long time.

I was just using cement box as a euthamism for solitary confinment, and I would still say that even if he isn't capable of feeling remorse for his actions that being forced to live the rest of ones life without seeing anything outside of a single small room for the rest of ones days would be a fitting punishment.
I know you didn't mean it literally, but my point is still valid: your method wastes resources. I think we should torture him(without even feeding him) until he dies in excruciating pain. => Minimal resource consumption for optimal punishment.

What makes me lose faith in humanity more are some of the responses here. The article talks about ONE individual who did something very horrible. In this thread however I read about a large number of people who seem to get a lot of pleasure from imagining torture and killing someone they feel 'deserves' such an inhumane treatment.

Ballotonia

Its sick, sure. I get angry when I see things like this and think about how a guy smoking pot or smuggling it for his own use can get a much higher punishment. But I will not agree that a death sentence or torture of prisoners is right no matter what. I am sure that the law would fast abuse it if it was legal for them, not that it doesnt happen now, but at least its not legal.

I never had any faith in humanity and if there was a button I could press that would wipe out us all and leave nature unharmed, I might very well have pressed that button, even if it meant my own death as well.

And to Ritlinana; Theres nothing wrong in my mind, of fantasies that involve things that would be illegal in real life. Fantasies are in the mind, and as long as they are not carried out they cannot be compared with real life happenings like this rape-story. That is why people are more chocked about these news than of your fantasies. (Or so I guess at least)

Three robberies: Life
One disgusting appaling insane wacko crime like this: 9 years.

9 years? Bullshit. He deserves life at a brutal "You gonna get raped" state prision.

The judge is probably a rapist himself if he let him off that easy.

Breath slowly while counting to ten, folks. This thread is so full of people trying to claim the title as MR. HATRED that I couldn't read through it.

First of all, i don't think psychos like this guy really ever conciders if they get 5, 10 or 30 years in prison when they concider commiting their atrocities. The harshness of punishment alone doesn't keep people from comitting crimes, it just affects how far they are willing to go to avoid getting caught.

Secondly, when you all call for harsher punishment, like torture and capital punishment, you are really calling for revenge in the lowest and most bestial form. It's primitive, it fucks with your sense of justice, it doesn't right the wrong and just about any well-educated adult should be able to understand why revenge in this way is never good for anything. In fact, this very human need for revenge is the main reason why we have so many wars.

The only reasonable thing to to with the criminally insane is to keep them away from society while you try to treat them of their illness. This could, in the case of rapists, be done partly with chemical castration. If they can't be treated, they should be locked away for life.

So... you say this guy should continue to live, sucking up our planet's rescources, after he did this? Bah. An eye for an eye. I say, capital punishment.

Nothing is going to right the wrong. It's not like letting this guy live will bring the girl back from the dead. As far as I see it, anyone like that is just... They really do need to be removed from society. Permanently. I'm not too fussed about the harshness of punishments as a deterrent: even if it doesn't work, I reckon the main purpose of a jail sentence is to protect the society, not teach the criminal a lesson.

Nothing is going to right the wrong. It's not like letting this guy live will bring the girl back from the dead. As far as I see it, anyone like that is just... They really do need to be removed from society. Permanently. I'm not too fussed about the harshness of punishments as a deterrent: even if it doesn't work, I reckon the main purpose of a jail sentence is to protect the society, not teach the criminal a lesson.
But wouldn't it protect society more to eliminate the threat permanently?

I never said it wouldn't. Not against the death penalty in this kind of situation.

Yeah. How about if we eliminate anyone who is a threat. Capital punishment for anyone we think are capable of comitting a crime. That'll do it.:headbang:

Yeah. How about if we eliminate anyone who is a threat. Capital punishment for anyone we think are capable of comitting a crime. That'll do it.:headbang:
That's absurdly extreme.:rolleyes: Capital punishment is suitable only for the most extreme crimes, like rape and murder. Pay attention.