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I still live with my parents, and they just found out that I use myspace, and they want me off of it, simply because my younger sister (17) has been using it "inappropriately". Now, I'm 21, and I join adult-oriented groups at will, but they want me off of those, simply because it's "innappropriate". I'M 21, DAMMIT! I SHOULD HAVE THE FREEDOM TO JOIN WHATEVER MYSPACE GROUP I PLEASE!!!

Democracy, my ass.

I'm p****d beyond words right now.

Why are you living with your parents at 21?

I still live with my parents, and they just found out that I use myspace, and they want me off of it, simply because my younger sister (17) has been using it "inappropriately". Now, I'm 21, and I join adult-oriented groups at will, but they want me off of those, simply because it's "innappropriate". I'M 21, DAMMIT! I SHOULD HAVE THE FREEDOM TO JOIN WHATEVER MYSPACE GROUP I PLEASE!!!

Democracy, my ass.

I'm p****d beyond words right now.

Sounds like you need to move out of your parents house and tell them to piss off. Seriously, I was kicked out at 19, and my mom tried to tell me what was "appropriate", to which I responded with a hearty "fuck off!"

. . . and you haven't moved out yet.




My parents use a simple rule: when I am at their house, I live under their rules. Period.

Why are you living with your parents at 21?

What's wrong with that? I turn 20 this year and still live with my parents. I can't afford to move out.

What's wrong with that? I turn 20 this year and still live with my parents. I can't afford to move out.

You don't count...

Why are you living with your parents at 21?

Maybe he's in college and its cheaper then living on campus. That's what I'm doing and I got no problem being at home. I get along reasonably well with my parents.

Well, you are an adult. It's not your parents job to tell you what web sites are appropiate for yourself.

Going to punish your sister?

Sounds like you need to move out of your parents house and tell them to piss off. Seriously, I was kicked out at 19, and my mom tried to tell me what was "appropriate", to which I responded with a hearty "fuck off!"

Ahhh...smell those bridges a burning!

You don't count...

Why not? :p

. . . and you haven't moved out yet.




My parents use a simple rule: when I am at their house, I live under their rules. Period.

My parents tried that one on me too. I called BS on it, which it was. No one has the right to tell any person what to do with their time and energy, unless it's somehow illegal. Period.

Maybe he's in college and its cheaper then living on campus. That's what I'm doing and I got no problem being at home. I get along reasonably well with my parents.

But he's not.

I still live with my parents, and they just found out that I use myspace, and they want me off of it, simply because my younger sister (17) has been using it "inappropriately". Now, I'm 21, and I join adult-oriented groups at will, but they want me off of those, simply because it's "innappropriate". I'M 21, DAMMIT! I SHOULD HAVE THE FREEDOM TO JOIN WHATEVER MYSPACE GROUP I PLEASE!!!

Democracy, my ass.

I'm p****d beyond words right now.Hahaha! There's just nothing about this that isn't utterly pathetic. What a nice morning read :cool:

You should consider getting a life.

Why not? :p

Becasue you're Kanabia. And under UN resolution 8264, Kanabia counts as 0.00739 of a person.

I round down.

My parents tried that one on me too. I called BS on it, which it was. No one has the right to tell any person what to do with their time and energy, unless it's somehow illegal. Period.

Actually, its not a BS rule. You don't own the place, your parents do. Even if you pay rent, your parents are the land-lords and have ultimate say over what you can do with your property.

I guess your parents just didnt care enough that you called it BS. Mine did, and since I don't pay for my own expenses when I am at home, I live under their rules.

Continue incognito. Clear your browser history after visiting. Delete all cache's. Use a secret email address, don't tell them any passwords. Never use a photo of yourself.

Or do as they ask, it is their house and all.

Becasue you're Kanabia. And under UN resolution 8264, Kanabia counts as 0.00739 of a person.

I round down.

Is this because i'm black? :(

Is this because i'm black? :(

No. You're the white dude. I'm the minority.

Hahaha! There's just nothing about this that isn't utterly pathetic. What a nice morning read :cool:

You should consider getting a life.
hahaha you sed my thoughts exactly

Not in college. got kicked out for laziness. And yes, I'm doing household chores, so I'm not THAT lazy. :)

Can't move out. don't have money. Where do I go once they kick me out (or I move out voluntarily, depending on what happens when I wake up). Anyone here in Minnesota wanna be my friend? :D
Well, you are an adult. It's not your parents job to tell you what web sites are appropiate for yourself.
Thanks, I'll try to remember that. :)

Actually, its not a BS rule. You don't own the place, your parents do. Even if you pay rent, your parents are the land-lords and have ultimate say over what you can do with your property.

I guess your parents just didnt care enough that you called it BS. Mine did, and since I don't pay for my own expenses when I am at home, I live under their rules.

That's where the "somehow illegal" part comes in. If one isn't viloating the law, they should have every expectaition of being left alone.

Why would people want to control the actions of others beyond that anyway? Why should it matter that much? If nothing illegal is happening, why impose on another person's passtime?

This kind of shite screams of "empty nester's" desire to hold their children down, and not allow them to grow up.

No. You're the white dude. I'm the minority.

Oh, right.

...

...Is this because i'm Jewish?

I still live with my parents, and they just found out that I use myspace, and they want me off of it, simply because my younger sister (17) has been using it "inappropriately". Now, I'm 21, and I join adult-oriented groups at will, but they want me off of those, simply because it's "innappropriate". I'M 21, DAMMIT! I SHOULD HAVE THE FREEDOM TO JOIN WHATEVER MYSPACE GROUP I PLEASE!!!

Democracy, my ass.

I'm p****d beyond words right now.

Sounds like you should show your mother the back of your hand. That failing, consider moving out.

My parents tried that one on me too. I called BS on it, which it was. No one has the right to tell any person what to do with their time and energy, unless it's somehow illegal. Period.

If your parents are open mindedness and you have persistence and reasonably good skill at debating even legality need not be an issue.

Oh, right.

...

...Is this because i'm Jewish?

Yes. I decided to get back at the Vast Jewish Conspiracy to Screw Me in Assorted Ways (VJCSMAW). I have determined, though random chance, that you are a Jew. And I am determined to get back at VJCSMAW, and you are but my tool.

Yes. I decided to get back at the Vast Jewish Conspiracy to Screw Me in Assorted Ways (VJCSMAW). I have determined, though random chance, that you are a Jew. And I am determined to get back at VJCSMAW, and you are but my tool.

:eek: But you don't know where i've been!

OK... speaking as an adult... if you want your parents to treat you like an adult, you must behave like one.

Running around bitching about how pissed you are that they are setting limits because they see a problem is not terribly adult. Try sitting them down and calmly explaining your side. Explain what it is that you do there (in general terms, if the specifics would be too much) and that you sympathize with their concern, especially if your younger sister was behaving inappropriately, but that you feel perhaps since you are an adult, they need not supervise you quite as closely, and should trust that you will not do the same as she. The transition from child to adult is hard on the parents too, as a whole new set of boundries emerges.

And yes, I agree that if you are living in their house, you must follow their rules. But if you work it right, you can probably come to an understanding that will make them feel more comfortable with loosening those rules for you.

:eek: But you don't know where i've been!

I have napkins.

Why would people want to control the actions of others beyond that anyway? Why should it matter that much? If nothing illegal is happening, why impose on another person's passtime?
When in another's house (especially if you aren't paying the rent) you follow their rules. It is a simple courtesy, and not following it should get you thrown out.

You just need to hide it better. Get a browser that supports tabs, set your options so that it does not store cookies (for 'privacy' conserns), a cache (again for "privacy") or remember passwords (this is just a stupid idea in the first place). When you visit the sites that your parents have a problem with, have some NS threads taking up a few threads. When you hear them coming, close the tabs that have the bad sites. If you have Firefox, you can simply reopen the tab right were you were when you closed it.

OK... speaking as an adult... if you want your parents to treat you like an adult, you must behave like one.

Running around bitching about how pissed you are that they are setting limits because they see a problem is not terribly adult. Try sitting them down and calmly explaining your side. Explain what it is that you do there (in general terms, if the specifics would be too much) and that you sympathize with their concern, especially if your younger sister was behaving inappropriately, but that you feel perhaps since you are an adult, they need not supervise you quite as closely, and should trust that you will not do the same as she. The transition from child to adult is hard on the parents too, as a whole new set of boundries emerges.

And yes, I agree that if you are living in their house, you must follow their rules. But if you work it right, you can probably come to an understanding that will make them feel more comfortable with loosening those rules for you.
The problem is, they (ESPECIALLY my mom) WILL raise their voice at me, no matter what, so it becomes nearly impossible for me to keep my calm.

You just need to hide it better. Get a browser that supports tabs, set your options so that it does not store cookies (for 'privacy' conserns), a cache (again for "privacy") or remember passwords (this is just a stupid idea in the first place). When you visit the sites that your parents have a problem with, have some NS threads taking up a few threads. When you hear them coming, close the tabs that have the bad sites. If you have Firefox, you can simply reopen the tab right were you were when you closed it.
Unfortunately, the computer was purchased under my mom's name, so they'll take that as an opportunity to look into my stuff.

You should try to get a job. Try offering to pay rent. That might help you be seen as an equal member of the household rather than a dependant.

Jesus Freakin Christ! You CONSIDER THIS A PROBLEM?! Why don't you get off your lazy ass, get out of your parents house, find a few friends to be room mate with, split the bill, and then you can be happy with your stupid "adult" rated site. Jeez, such a pointless problem! :mad:

Jesus Freakin Christ! You CONSIDER THIS A PROBLEM?! Why don't you get off your lazy ass, get out of your parents house, find a few friends to be room mate with, split the bill, and then you can be happy with your stupid "adult" rated site. Jeez, such a pointless problem! :mad:

*shakes hand*

OK... speaking as an adult... if you want your parents to treat you like an adult, you must behave like one.

Running around bitching about how pissed you are that they are setting limits because they see a problem is not terribly adult. Try sitting them down and calmly explaining your side. Explain what it is that you do there (in general terms, if the specifics would be too much) and that you sympathize with their concern, especially if your younger sister was behaving inappropriately, but that you feel perhaps since you are an adult, they need not supervise you quite as closely, and should trust that you will not do the same as she. The transition from child to adult is hard on the parents too, as a whole new set of boundries emerges.

And yes, I agree that if you are living in their house, you must follow their rules. But if you work it right, you can probably come to an understanding that will make them feel more comfortable with loosening those rules for you.
= truth

i still live with my parents, too, and i'm 21 in may, but this approach works well. rather than butting heads and arguing over the issue, talking about it leads to much more comfortable arrangements (and quite probably a more healthy relationship with them in the long term). if talking about it invariably leads to shouting matches (like you say) then perhaps writing your case down in some kind of letter would be good? that way you can get all your points of your side of the arguement acrross without being interrupted (but don't forget to consider their side too!)


guess i'm pretty lucky here though - get on well with my folks and they don't really give a shit what i do on the internet. they think i have an addiction to NS though (my dad calls it "the collective" :p) but they only have a problem with it cos i come on here when i'm bored at work... (which is a lot :()... and i work for them...

*shakes hand*

*shakes back* I just hate it when stupid teenagers or "adults" complain about such pointless problem, it just annoys me that they would bitch about something so trivial.

Jesus Freakin Christ! You CONSIDER THIS A PROBLEM?! Why don't you get off your lazy ass, get out of your parents house, find a few friends to be room mate with, split the bill, and then you can be happy with your stupid "adult" rated site. Jeez, such a pointless problem! :mad:

LMAO! You rule.

*shakes back* I just hate it when stupid teenagers or "adults" complain about such pointless problem, it just annoys me that they would bitch about something so trivial.
it may be trivial to you, but to him - and clearly his parents - this is an issue thats causing some considerable tension and difficulties in their relationship. turning a blind eye to that because you feel the issue is 'trivial' isn't gonna be that helpful to anybody. i wouldn't even say moving out is a good answer either, in terms of their relationship, but then i don't know them and perhaps it would be the best thing to do if they've reached breaking point over this. i don't know and i would say more but i gtg...

it may be trivial to you, but to him - and clearly his parents - this is an issue thats causing some considerable tension and difficulties in their relationship. turning a blind eye to that because you feel the issue is 'trivial' isn't gonna be that helpful to anybody. i wouldn't even say moving out is a good answer either, in terms of their relationship, but then i don't know them and perhaps it would be the best thing to do if they've reached breaking point over this. i don't know and i would say more but i gtg...

Oh comon, if this is what they consider problems, then they should count themselves lucky. I don't know about you, but if "tension" between the two are caused by a stupid website, then that is just pathetic. I mean what next, are we going to see a post about how the curfew is "unfair", or how daddy is an a-hole because he doesn't like the thong? I know people who would LOVE to have this be their problems, but instead they're dealing with more serious issuses such as a dysfunctional family or worse.

Oh comon, if this is what they consider problems, then they should count themselves lucky. I don't know about you, but if "tension" between the two are caused by a stupid website, then that is just pathetic. I mean what next, are we going to see a post about how the curfew is "unfair", or how daddy is an a-hole because he doesn't like the thong? I know people who would LOVE to have this be their problems, but instead they're dealing with more serious issuses such as a dysfunctional family or worse.
FYI, I don't have a curfew. Last summer, when I wen't out bikeriding into town, they never told me I had to be back by a specific time, even though I have a few problems of my own (hearing impaired, bad back).

And I"m a guy, so I don't wear a thong. :p

FYI, I don't have a curfew. Last summer, when I wen't out bikeriding into town, they never told me I had to be back by a specific time, even though I have a few problems of my own (hearing impaired, bad back).

And I"m a guy, so I don't wear a thong. :p

and you just missed the entire point of the rant...

and you just missed the entire point of the rant...
What was it?

What was it?

That your nothing more than a pathetic cry baby who wants attention, so you come here and spout your problem on an internet forum, in hope that people will pat your back and make you feel good about your worthless problem.

You live in the suburbs don't ya?

I still live with my parents, and they just found out that I use myspace, and they want me off of it, simply because my younger sister (17) has been using it "inappropriately". Now, I'm 21, and I join adult-oriented groups at will, but they want me off of those, simply because it's "innappropriate". I'M 21, DAMMIT! I SHOULD HAVE THE FREEDOM TO JOIN WHATEVER MYSPACE GROUP I PLEASE!!!

Democracy, my ass.

I'm p****d beyond words right now.


Here is my two cents. It is all politics and culture.. with a twist of faith and longing.

Do what you'd like but know that as par politics and faith.. for politics having a show to garner support and mutal endevour goes a long way. As for Faith you have free will in life till death when you have total free will.

If you are solid the worst thing that happens is you get into a fight with your parentsyou end up killing them and have no slaves to pay for your living expenses... then you have all their allies (like normal society) to fend or else they treat you like a subhuman and enslave you by locking you away with next to nothing until you kill yourself or them.


Why not have a rational discussion with them about.. maybe they are trying to protect you from your sisters 'my space' stuff.


It's not like you are a member of some hedonistic orgy driven mass murdering Levy Crowley cult bent on subjecting and torturing innconet victims and animals in processes of locking your victims in hammered shut cult churches while reciting cabalistic rituals enshrining the mass debauchery of all things sacred.


Personally I think liberality teaches conservatism. the more you experience the more grounded you are. Personally though I am soooooooooooooooooooooooo tired of adult oreint materials. Personally I think that Electronic materials emulating real life when not communication are more a mockery than anything sought.

I can only geuss they are attempting to protect you. If you are using 'their' computer then I can understand, but before you go behind their back you should atleast discus it with them, if they will discus it with you. If you can't discus it in full with them then maybe you arn't mature enough, but if you can and they will then you should be able to rationalize why the my space stuff is a benifit to you. If it is a benifit they would have to be mad not to let you continue the practice. If it isn't.. then whatever.

When you say inappropriate 17 year old and adult oreinted all in th same thing it screams NOT LEGAL!

Dude you can always do what you'd like just rememberto have unwavering faith in the positive reality. Regardless of who crucifies for doing what you feel is right regardless of the pain you may go through for doing it your way regardless of the authoritarians socipolitical system, you did what you thought was right, and it was just who society made you.

If you parents don't make sense do your own thing, but 'know why' your parents don't make sense, and by that know what information they are missing, then provide it to them.

IF that doesn't change the situation then there is another reason.. and if you are a. unemployed 2. not paying your own way. then parents tend to tire of being your slave, in some cases.


My system basically is if someone is gonna stick a gun to my head and say you either fall in line in the social gulag or we only give you a portion of what we etort and garner donations of..BUT you will never be free. I say well I am free and this is my gulag. And until you put that gun down you are my prisoner.

If you don't see it now you may later.

IT's IRRELEVANT. Either they use force or your prestige is lowered until they need to use force or bring in hired strong arms such as the politce. They'll set you up and in a worse case scenario they'll drug your arse you may be able to access public networks .. or whatever, but you'll be on a leash for the rest of your life until you masteer social politics or become a psychopath.. a sociopath seems a more 'benifical path' imo.

That your nothing more than a pathetic cry baby who wants attention, so you come here and spout your problem on an internet forum, in hope that people will pat your back and make you feel good about your worthless problem.
Nope. I'm not looking to "feel good" about the problem. If you wanna think that way about me, then fine. I could care less.
You live in the suburbs don't ya?
Nope. We live in a small town of 4000 out in the middle of nowhere.

Jesus Freakin Christ! You CONSIDER THIS A PROBLEM?! Why don't you get off your lazy ass, get out of your parents house, find a few friends to be room mate with, split the bill, and then you can be happy with your stupid "adult" rated site. Jeez, such a pointless problem! :mad:

Yep ... I agree!

Sounds like someone wants to be independent but does not wanna stop sucking the teet!

Here is my two cents. It is all politics and culture.. with a twist of faith and longing.

Do what you'd like but know that as par politics and faith.. for politics having a show to garner support and mutal endevour goes a long way. As for Faith you have free will in life till death when you have total free will.

If you are solid the worst thing that happens is you get into a fight with your parentsyou end up killing them and have no slaves to pay for your living expenses... then you have all their allies (like normal society) to fend or else they treat you like a subhuman and enslave you by locking you away with next to nothing until you kill yourself or them.


Why not have a rational discussion with them about.. maybe they are trying to protect you from your sisters 'my space' stuff.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=31372663
On the surface, my sister's myspace page seems alright, but you have a point. they may know something I don't. Myspace is supposed to be mainly a family-oriented site with fairly strict rules. But there ARE "adult-oriented" groups, but even they follow the rules, such as not uploading nudity (of course, there are exceptions where some people ignore the rules)
It's not like you are a member of some hedonistic orgy driven mass murdering Levy Crowley cult bent on subjecting and torturing innconet victims and animals in processes of locking your victims in hammered shut cult churches while reciting cabalistic rituals enshrining the mass debauchery of all things sacred.


Personally I think liberality teaches conservatism. the more you experience the more grounded you are. Personally though I am soooooooooooooooooooooooo tired of adult oreint materials. Personally I think that Electronic materials emulating real life when not communication are more a mockery than anything sought.

I can only geuss they are attempting to protect you. If you are using 'their' computer then I can understand, but before you go behind their back you should atleast discus it with them, if they will discus it with you. If you can't discus it in full with them then maybe you arn't mature enough, but if you can and they will then you should be able to rationalize why the my space stuff is a benifit to you. If it is a benifit they would have to be mad not to let you continue the practice. If it isn't.. then whatever.
I think they're doing this because they're religiously against using the internet for "adult reasons", and NOT some sort of protection thing.

When you say inappropriate 17 year old and adult oreinted all in th same thing it screams NOT LEGAL!
Wow, you got a good eye. I'll have to watch my wordings more carefuly. thanks. :)
Dude you can always do what you'd like just rememberto have unwavering faith in the positive reality. Regardless of who crucifies for doing what you feel is right regardless of the pain you may go through for doing it your way regardless of the authoritarians socipolitical system, you did what you thought was right, and it was just who society made you.

If you parents don't make sense do your own thing, but 'know why' your parents don't make sense, and by that know what information they are missing, then provide it to them.

IF that doesn't change the situation then there is another reason.. and if you are a. unemployed 2. not paying your own way. then parents tend to tire of being your slave, in some cases.


My system basically is if someone is gonna stick a gun to my head and say you either fall in line in the social gulag or we only give you a portion of what we etort and garner donations of..BUT you will never be free. I say well I am free and this is my gulag. And until you put that gun down you are my prisoner.

If you don't see it now you may later.

IT's IRRELEVANT. Either they use force or your presite is lowered until they need to use force or bring in hired strong arms such as the politce. They'll set you up and in a worse case scenario they'll drug your arse you may be able to access public networks .. or whatever, but you'll be on a leash for the rest of your life until you masteer social politics or become a psychopath.. a sociopath seems a more 'benifical path' imo.
Interesting perspective.

Sounds like someone wants to be independent but does not wanna stop sucking the teet!
There you have it. And the reason I don't wanna stop sucking the teat is because my mom is the one who's taking me to all these orthontic appointments and paying for them. I have a few missing teeth right now, and my main plan all along is to stick with her until I have my new teeth implants before considering moving out. The hard part is the differences in their beliefs and my personal interests, along with the fact is that I'm pretty much the "brutally honest" kind, and I break pretty easily (TOO easily) under pressure to reveal the truth about something, such as my activities on the internet. Plus, I'd rather stay home and play computer games rather than work.

Plus, I don't know where to look for someone willing to take me in/let me move in with them here in uber-isolated Minnesota.

That your nothing more than a pathetic cry baby who wants attention, so you come here and spout your problem on an internet forum, in hope that people will pat your back and make you feel good about your worthless problem.

You live in the suburbs don't ya?

*sniff* *sniff* Hmmm, I smell something. Oh, I know what it is. Self-righteousness! With just a hint of pretension.

It's not like you are a member of some hedonistic orgy driven mass murdering Levy Crowley cult bent on subjecting and torturing innconet victims and animals in processes of locking your victims in hammered shut cult churches while reciting cabalistic rituals enshrining the mass debauchery of all things sacred.
Wait.... so that's wrong how? ;)

Otherwise: I'd recommend either talking reasonably to them or just getting over it, MySpace is kinda silly anyway... I can think of many far better sites to visit on teh interwebs anyway (like NS for one).

um...what in Gods name are you doing on myspace

back emo back I say *threatens with a selection of my funky tunes*

I still live with my parents, and they just found out that I use myspace, and they want me off of it, simply because my younger sister (17) has been using it "inappropriately".
Is either your or your sister's MySpace emo? :D

I still live with my parents, and they just found out that I use myspace, and they want me off of it, simply because my younger sister (17) has been using it "inappropriately". Now, I'm 21, and I join adult-oriented groups at will, but they want me off of those, simply because it's "innappropriate". I'M 21, DAMMIT! I SHOULD HAVE THE FREEDOM TO JOIN WHATEVER MYSPACE GROUP I PLEASE!!!

Democracy, my ass.

I'm p****d beyond words right now.

Incidentally, are your parents either :-religious
- anally rententive
- socially niave?

I have been on MySpace since 15, of course I use it inappropriately, and you, my friend, need to move out.

Sounds like you should show your mother the back of your hand. That failing, consider moving out.
So violence is the solution huh? Methinks that your attitude will come back to bite you very hard one day, and so it should.

How do your parents even know what you do on the internet?. My parents had no real clue to what I did on the interenet when I lived at home. When it came to pages I knew they wouldnt like me going to I just never told them, that simple. Might be you have the computer in the livingroom though and that must suck.

Your parents seems alittle harsh to me as well, after I turned 18, I was not hindered in any way to do whatever I liked, though they did come with suggestions of course.

But in the end, it is their house and I guess they are paying the interenet bill, and they have the right to stop you from doing anything on internet.
Move out as fast as you can is my advice. I moved out at 19, and I am very happy today that I decided to do just that, total freedom(within the law ofcourse).

Okay... I'm a 'myspace' know-nothing... isn't it kind of like LiveJournal or something?

Does that not, basically, equate to your parents reading your sister's diary?

someone doesn't know how to delete cookies. Ive been doing it since i was twelve:p

Sounds like you need to move out of your parents house and tell them to piss off. Seriously, I was kicked out at 19, and my mom tried to tell me what was "appropriate", to which I responded with a hearty "fuck off!"
Geeez, I wonder why they would kick you out??? :rolleyes:

Does swearing at your momma make you feel all grown up and important?

are you the one who owns the computer... If you do they have no right to tell you what to do with your computer. Keep doing what you want as long as its not illegal. i do agree with the "in their house their rules" because i would want the same for my house.

That your nothing more than a pathetic cry baby who wants attention, so you come here and spout your problem on an internet forum, in hope that people will pat your back and make you feel good about your worthless problem.

You live in the suburbs don't ya?

And you're an internet parent, going around applying a heavy-handed, one-size-fits-all set of standards to everyone you come across, totally ignoring that other perspectives than yours even exist, and then dismissing the concerns of other people as being "trivial" or "unimportant" because they would be to you.

Don't worry, people revile your type a lot more than the whiny emo type.

There you have it. And the reason I don't wanna stop sucking the teat is because my mom is the one who's taking me to all these orthontic appointments and paying for them. I have a few missing teeth right now, and my main plan all along is to stick with her until I have my new teeth implants before considering moving out. The hard part is the differences in their beliefs and my personal interests, along with the fact is that I'm pretty much the "brutally honest" kind, and I break pretty easily (TOO easily) under pressure to reveal the truth about something, such as my activities on the internet. Plus, I'd rather stay home and play computer games rather than work.

Plus, I don't know where to look for someone willing to take me in/let me move in with them here in uber-isolated Minnesota.

I'd rather stay home and play computer games too, but I realized a long time ago that I'm a grown-up and can't rely on my mom to take care of me. I would be completely ashamed of myself if I were sitting on my butt living off my mom when I was 21 because I was too lazy to go out and get a job. You were kicked out of college for not doing the work, and now you don't even have a job? Your parents are a lot more understanding than I would be.

Here is my advice: forget about this whole BS with the computer sites. Grow up, get a freaking job, move out and get your own computer. Then you can visit whatever sites you want.

So you've posted your sister's myspace page... idiot... anybody else gonna spam the girl with porn messages from "her brother"

MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

So you've posted your sister's myspace page... idiot... anybody else gonna spam the girl with porn messages from "her brother"

MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

No. Grow up.

why DO your parents know what groups you are a member of? start joining adult groups on other sites and dont tell them.

im assuming they arent so concerned about their 21 year old son (who could go to strip clubs if he chose to) but about you setting a bad example for your little sister (even though at 17 she needs to learn how to deal or not deal with bad people and online is much easier than real life)

so maybe you need to sit down and talk to them as adults about what is really on their minds and what you can do to work with them when it comes to your sister.

No. Grow up.

You are what the world refers to as 'buzz kill'

It took me one time to figure out my parents, while being totally inept at using the computer, can figure out bad shit I'm doing. I created passworded accounts quick, fast, and in a hurry. If your parents know what you are doing, you don't deserve to use the computer.

You are what the world refers to as 'buzz kill'

Whereas, you were the one advocating posting porn comments on a teengirls website...

(Relying on another poster... of course. That could mean you'd actually post porn comments on the page of a middle-aged fat guy in a basement somewhere... and just BELIEVE that you were spamming some teen girl...)

Which is worse.... ooh... it's a difficult choice...

I still live with my parents, and they just found out that I use myspace, and they want me off of it, simply because my younger sister (17) has been using it "inappropriately". Now, I'm 21, and I join adult-oriented groups at will, but they want me off of those, simply because it's "innappropriate". I'M 21, DAMMIT! I SHOULD HAVE THE FREEDOM TO JOIN WHATEVER MYSPACE GROUP I PLEASE!!!

Democracy, my ass.

I'm p****d beyond words right now.
Yes, you do have the right to do pretty much what you want, within the limits of the law. However, should you insist on doing so, you should be prepared to move out. When my grown children elected to remain under our family's roof, they were told in no uncertain terms, "either pay rent, or be prepared to follow the house rules," and byond that, there would still be a few rules even if they DID pay rent. Community implies a modicum of rules. Of course, I insisted that the rules be minimial and fair.

Whereas, you were the one advocating posting porn comments on a teengirls website...

(Relying on another poster... of course. That could mean you'd actually post porn comments on the page of a middle-aged fat guy in a basement somewhere... and just BELIEVE that you were spamming some teen girl...)

Which is worse.... ooh... it's a difficult choice...

*shudders*

Geeez, I wonder why they would kick you out??? :rolleyes:

Does swearing at your momma make you feel all grown up and important?

Actually I was kicked out because, and I quote...

"Your out of high school and you have a job. We'll give you a week to find a place to live, then you're out."

That's when the swearing started. Before that I can honestly say that our relationship was very good, and I never mouthed off.

Does sarcasm without knowing the details make you feel 'all grown up and important?'

Your 21 and you still live with your parents, and you have a myspace...

Grow up.

Ok, here are my two cents, which may be worth less, but we shall see when I am done.

I live with my folks till I was 22-- going to college was a lot cheaper this way-- free rent, helping out with the housework, buying food every once and awhile, etc. I have a sister who is 12 yrs younger than me, too.

Now, while i was at home, there were a TON of rules (not just a few, A TON) I still had a 1 am curfew, no phone calls past 10, no dating anyone my parents didn't approve of, etc. there were so many more, I can't even remember.

Yes, they SUCKED(the rules, not my parents), hard core, but you know what, I respected them. wait, let me say this again, REPESPECTED them and their rules, no matter how oppressive, live in a free country, blah-blah- bullcrap you want to spout....

Dude, you need to either put up (ie. stop being freakin lazy, like you had said earlier, get a job and move out..then you can do whatever the hell you want) or shut up (the whining i can't go on the internet, my parents suck, etc. is not becoming of anyone, esp. someone who is trying to plead their case as being an adult and has the adult mental capacity to use adult forums)

as for freakin out about myspace, my little sis, 14, uses it. I log in to her site every once and awhile to keep an eye on her. She is gorgeous, naive, and gullible, to say the least. I ring my parents if something looks a little off (yes, I did move out about four years ago and have no one to answer to, well, maybe my husband)

anyways, that was my two cents. You, OP, need to get some respect for your folks, stop whining, and if you want to change things, get up, get a job, and get a house where you can make your own rules

(OK, rant over....i fell better, anyone else??)

Well if you live under their roof, you live under their rules I guess. I think it's a little ridiculous that they are telling you to get off of it, due to your age, however it is their house and therefore their phoneline.

I cant believe someone suggested that he backhand his mom. What a swell person you must be.

Also whoever said that even if he was paying rent, then his parents would be his landlord and could say what he could or couldnt do is off base too. I've never had a landlord who could tell me what websites I could go to. They could tell me not to hang pictures on the wall to avoid nail holes. But not where I can go on my computer.

And its not strange for a 21 year old to live with their parents. Im sure theyd rather him live there until he's finished with school or has a good enough job to support himself fully. Some people move out too soon and get in over their head and then end up back at their parents at age 28+. So get off his case. I'm sure he's not the only one that age who lives with his parents.

ok finished with the rant.


Eugene, I think they are overreacting and should allow you the freedom to visit your adult websites. Perhaps they are worried your sister will go to the History button and visit them again. Maybe you should talk to them and come up with a plan of action that would be fair for all. Promise them you will not have the sites on your favorites, that you will clear the history after each use or something like that. They may go for it. Good luck.

Eugene, I think they are overreacting and should allow you the freedom to visit your adult websites. Perhaps they are worried your sister will go to the History button and visit them again. Maybe you should talk to them and come up with a plan of action that would be fair for all. Promise them you will not have the sites on your favorites, that you will clear the history after each use or something like that. They may go for it. Good luck.
I'll see what I can do. :)

And you're an internet parent, going around applying a heavy-handed, one-size-fits-all set of standards to everyone you come across, totally ignoring that other perspectives than yours even exist, and then dismissing the concerns of other people as being "trivial" or "unimportant" because they would be to you.

Don't worry, people revile your type a lot more than the whiny emo type.

No, I'm not an "internet parent", I'm just a guy who gets sick and tired of hearing people bitch and moan about pointless problems like this one. I swear I hear them everyday. "OMG the store just ran out of my favorite lip liner, I shall now go kill myself!" or "OMFG my rude and totally un-cool parents won't let me jack off to porn! How fucking unfair!"

People like these, need to get over themselves. Their problems are trival and deserve as much attention as a rock. They need to realize that outside their little pathetic bubble, that there are people out there that has it worse than they do, and that the Internet or lip liner problems is basically at the bottom of the list of problems. Also, the dude deserves to get ripped on. He got kicked out of college for being lazy, he's 21 and still living with mommy and daddy, shows no real motivation to get out on his own, and shows no real desires to get a job. Hell even if he went to look for a job, I doubt anyone would hire him given his ohhh so excellent track record.

My parents use a simple rule: when I am at their house, I live under their rules. Period.

yup.. if you don't like it, move out.

Fight the Power! Blow up Myspace!

No, I'm not an "internet parent", I'm just a guy who gets sick and tired of hearing people bitch and moan about pointless problems like this one. I swear I hear them everyday. "OMG the store just ran out of my favorite lip liner, I shall now go kill myself!" or "OMFG my rude and totally un-cool parents won't let me jack off to porn! How fucking unfair!"

People like these, need to get over themselves. Their problems are trival and deserve as much attention as a rock. They need to realize that outside their little pathetic bubble, that there are people out there that has it worse than they do, and that the Internet or lip liner problems is basically at the bottom of the list of problems. Also, the dude deserves to get ripped on. He got kicked out of college for being lazy, he's 21 and still living with mommy and daddy, shows no real motivation to get out on his own, and shows no real desires to get a job. Hell even if he went to look for a job, I doubt anyone would hire him given his ohhh so excellent track record.

:rolleyes: Being a selfrighteous prick about it really doesn't help anyone.
And what might be trivial to you, could be a big problem for someone. And knowing there are people worse of than him is somehow supposed to make him feel better?

No, I'm not an "internet parent", I'm just a guy who gets sick and tired of hearing people bitch and moan about pointless problems like this one. I swear I hear them everyday. "OMG the store just ran out of my favorite lip liner, I shall now go kill myself!" or "OMFG my rude and totally un-cool parents won't let me jack off to porn! How fucking unfair!"

People like these, need to get over themselves. Their problems are trival and deserve as much attention as a rock. They need to realize that outside their little pathetic bubble, that there are people out there that has it worse than they do, and that the Internet or lip liner problems is basically at the bottom of the list of problems. Also, the dude deserves to get ripped on. He got kicked out of college for being lazy, he's 21 and still living with mommy and daddy, shows no real motivation to get out on his own, and shows no real desires to get a job. Hell even if he went to look for a job, I doubt anyone would hire him given his ohhh so excellent track record.
When I first saw you around, I thought you seemed like a cool guy, since you like to fly planes and all. But now I'm getting sick of your holier-than-thou attitude.

I still live with my parents, and they just found out that I use myspace, and they want me off of it, simply because my younger sister (17) has been using it "inappropriately". Now, I'm 21, and I join adult-oriented groups at will, but they want me off of those, simply because it's "innappropriate". I'M 21, DAMMIT! I SHOULD HAVE THE FREEDOM TO JOIN WHATEVER MYSPACE GROUP I PLEASE!!!

Democracy, my ass.

I'm p****d beyond words right now.
If you're using their computer, then they have the right to tell you to do this.

just.kill.myspace.now.

or not...

I still live with my parents, and they just found out that I use myspace, and they want me off of it, simply because my younger sister (17) has been using it "inappropriately". Now, I'm 21, and I join adult-oriented groups at will, but they want me off of those, simply because it's "innappropriate". I'M 21, DAMMIT! I SHOULD HAVE THE FREEDOM TO JOIN WHATEVER MYSPACE GROUP I PLEASE!!!

Democracy, my ass.

I'm p****d beyond words right now.

Here's your solution:
1. If possible, convince your parents that you are not your sister and they should just let you visit whatever sites you like. If that won't work, skip to 2.
2. Tell them you have stopped, but carry on going there - do it outside of home if you can.

If you're using their computer, then they have the right to tell you to do this.
Technically, it IS theirs, since they're the ones who bought it, but they bought it for me for college (when I first went to college), but now they're letting me as if it were completely mine. However, since it's still under their name, they have the right to keep the computer if they were to kick me out. However, they might let me "buy" it from them, if I were to have enough money.

:rolleyes: Being a selfrighteous prick about it really doesn't help anyone.
And what might be trivial to you, could be a big problem for someone. And knowing there are people worse of than him is somehow supposed to make him feel better?

Yes, not being able to go on Myspace is such a burden compared to the people that have to work to put food the table.

Technically, it IS theirs, since they're the ones who bought it, but they bought it for me for college (when I first went to college), but now they're letting me as if it were completely mine. However, since it's still under their name, they have the right to keep the computer if they were to kick me out. However, they might let me "buy" it from them, if I were to have enough money.

They pay for it=it's theirs.

Money. You need money. You need a job. If you want your parents to start treating you like the adult you are, you need to demonstrate that you can handle the responsibility. And a job can do that. Plus, it would give you some mobility in the future.

No, I'm not an "internet parent", I'm just a guy who gets sick and tired of hearing people bitch and moan about pointless problems like this one. I swear I hear them everyday. "OMG the store just ran out of my favorite lip liner, I shall now go kill myself!" or "OMFG my rude and totally un-cool parents won't let me jack off to porn! How fucking unfair!"
ROFLMFAO!!! OMG! :D

Do try to keep in mind that "opression" is relative. Although I tend to agree that this has to rate as being one of the less signficiant problems I have seen, still he sees it as a problem and all of us tend to see our current "problem" as the Most Important Thing in our lives at the time. ;)

BTW ... WTF is an "internet parent?" :confused:

No, I'm not an "internet parent", I'm just a guy who gets sick and tired of hearing people bitch and moan about pointless problems like this one. I swear I hear them everyday. "OMG the store just ran out of my favorite lip liner, I shall now go kill myself!" or "OMFG my rude and totally un-cool parents won't let me jack off to porn! How fucking unfair!"

People like these, need to get over themselves. Their problems are trival and deserve as much attention as a rock. They need to realize that outside their little pathetic bubble, that there are people out there that has it worse than they do, and that the Internet or lip liner problems is basically at the bottom of the list of problems. Also, the dude deserves to get ripped on. He got kicked out of college for being lazy, he's 21 and still living with mommy and daddy, shows no real motivation to get out on his own, and shows no real desires to get a job. Hell even if he went to look for a job, I doubt anyone would hire him given his ohhh so excellent track record.

Erm im a geologist wtf is wrong with rocks?? :confused: :mad: :headbang:

Im not really lol... anyways that is a bit over the top and just downright dumb. what sort of help is that in this situation?

Erm im a geologist wtf is wrong with rocks?? :confused: :mad: :headbang:
Uh ... they hurt when people hit you with them? :confused:

Okay, I just talked to my mom.

1. she has a remote control into every computer in the house, so she can do whatever she deems appropriate to whatever my stuff is, and even cut off my internet (meaning no more myspace or NS for me if she decides to do so)

2. It turns out that for reasons only she knows, my sister is actually prohibited (family rules) from going on myspace, which is what dad meant by "inappropriate" use of myspace.

3. I'm trying to prove to her that there are rules on myspace against uploading nudity, even though some ignore this rule. Still, she wants to see for her self later tonight.

Uh ... they hurt when people hit you with them? :confused:
only the big ones... ;)

if your parents don't treat u like a king, u f'ed up. part of growing up is convincing ur parents to kiss ur ass and to be the favorite. You are obviously not the favorite and ur parents are reminding u of that. Living with ur parents at 21 is perfectly fine, <i> but <\i> living with ur parents and allowing them to control you makes you a bit of a bitch.

I still live with my parents, and they just found out that I use myspace, and they want me off of it, simply because my younger sister (17) has been using it "inappropriately". Now, I'm 21, and I join adult-oriented groups at will, but they want me off of those, simply because it's "innappropriate". I'M 21, DAMMIT! I SHOULD HAVE THE FREEDOM TO JOIN WHATEVER MYSPACE GROUP I PLEASE!!!

Democracy, my ass.

I'm p****d beyond words right now.

This isn't a democracy, it is a Republic. More importantly, you are playing on private property, so you have no rights. If they say off, you should respect that.

if your parents don't treat u like a king, u f'ed up. part of growing up is convincing ur parents to kiss ur ass and to be the favorite. You are obviously not the favorite and ur parents are reminding u of that. Living with ur parents at 21 is perfectly fine, <i> but <\i> living with ur parents and allowing them to control you makes you a bit of a bitch.
God, I pity your parents, not to mention any future spouse(s) you might have! :(

only the big ones... ;)
Perhaps, but those little ones sting like a bitch! :p

Neo Kervoskia suggests that you use a wonderful thing called a job. Neo Kervoskia thinks this will be a good idea, then you can move out and be able to look at all the emo porn you want. Bob Dole.

:rolleyes: Being a selfrighteous prick about it really doesn't help anyone.
And what might be trivial to you, could be a big problem for someone. And knowing there are people worse of than him is somehow supposed to make him feel better?

Yes, because we all know that not being able to look at underage porn is right up there with child abuse, or dysfunctional families, get over yourself. :rolleyes:

When I first saw you around, I thought you seemed like a cool guy, since you like to fly planes and all. But now I'm getting sick of your holier-than-thou attitude.

I shall now go cry myself to sleep because a 21 year old hates me because I reminded him how pointless his problem is in the grand scheme of things. You know what, instead of bitching about not being able to see emo porn, how about you actually be GRATEFUL for the things that you DO have. Like a roof over your head, food, parents who obviously love you enough to enforce these "dumb" rules, and the fact that you have the internet. Why don't you try that for once.

Erm im a geologist wtf is wrong with rocks?? :confused: :mad: :headbang:

Im not really lol... anyways that is a bit over the top and just downright dumb. what sort of help is that in this situation?

Eh, I'm not trying to offer help, just trying to make sure he sees that this is a pointless problem in the grand scheme of things. He really should take a visit down to the homeless shelter or a shelter for abused people, there, he shall see real problems.

You are what the world refers to as 'buzz kill'
And you are what the world refers to as "idiot"

After visiting your sisters myspace page I didn't notice anything that appears remotely illegal. It tends to represent her as more of a 'little spoken more reserved type of individual'

Her friends although are what a 'square' may term foul mouthed really they don't seem that drastically different. The fact she doesn't drink at 17 is startling but I geuss in the US the raised drinking age makes underage drinking more uncommon?

Use of the word Ghetto and uses of z's etc.. and 'foul words' I won't say on this board. Really though as someone who sees vulgarity as nothing more than praised language reserved for impact and strong atagonistic meaning, and perhaps the trend towards loosening of the meaning.

As for your situation, what is your myspace stuff? .....................?

Your mother seems to be very invovled in her childrens lives, the backdoors/web monitor ? I'm guessing not actual video surveilance.. is definately perhaps taking very active interest.

Privacy isn't a personal concern of mine, however bear in mind that various governments screen for content, and if they own the computer if you are implicated in anything criminal online potentially they could be implicated especially if they have knowledge. Although you do not appear to be doing so.

The trap of the net absorption, the more time you spend online if you don't balance that with 'real life' interaction you get cut off. So if you arn't being social and just doing stuff online it turns into 'virutal netlife'. Personally I have found comfort in virtual netlife but a real life is always better than a virtual one. Of course you didn't define 'adult' oriented. If it is sex oriented that is one thing.. I noticed your sister says she is using the page for 'dating', could that be the inappropriate use.. no idea.


Anyway, as far as needing to get out and work, you don't have to but you sound like a fairly normal and reasonable person, and I geuss raised catholic. You don't have to do anything, we face life, some people may try to institutionalize you and force medication on you, perhaps if you attempt to be independant from the social order you may be locked in prison etc.. Money of course makes things easy but it is all about what you would like to do with your life, or atleast what you enjoy doing.

Personally I value.
1. My health (That means regular exercise)
2. Capacity (that means learning new things)
3. Peace (that means being able to interact with individuals)
4. Growth (that means being productive and gaining more wealth (weath as things you value not just $$$'s)

Of course this is about .....
Hopefully things sort out.. BUT there are more sites than myspace.... so if you can't use that... j/k

MySpace
MySpace etc.. etc..

Well the situation is quite simple.

Best of luck.

You know, again I go back to the acting like an adult comment. It seems like if someone doesn't agree with your "I am being oppressed" you automatically dislike the person. Act like an adult. Get a job, start paying the bills, etc.


Yeah, it may sound stupid that your parents are cutting off the internet, and yes, they may be over-bearing and trying to control you...but gees, man, you've got no leg to stand on!!!!

you eat their food, live in their house, pay no rent, help out with a few chores, and don't want to move out so they can still pay for your orthodontic stuff. again, act like an adult. get a job. stop being lazy. then, maybe, just maybe, they will treat you like an adult.

this, again, remember, is coming from someone in the SAME situation, or was about 4 yrs ago. With 12 years between my sis and I there was a lot I wasn't allowed to do because of my sister (bad influences as they might be). Respect. Show just a little and you might get some.

again, act like an adult. get a job. pay some bills. rinse. repeat.

As for your situation, what is your myspace stuff? .....................?
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=45556852
I used to be in a few groups about inbreeding, but I left those just before I posted this thread.
and I geuss raised catholic.
Christian, but not catholic, if I remeber correctly. :)

Now I'm agnostic. :)

Actually I was kicked out because, and I quote...

"Your out of high school and you have a job. We'll give you a week to find a place to live, then you're out."

That's when the swearing started. Before that I can honestly say that our relationship was very good, and I never mouthed off.

Does sarcasm without knowing the details make you feel 'all grown up and important?'
If they only gave you a week to find a place, I am sure that they had a very good reason and since they cannot tell me their side of the story, I am kinda stuck with your version.

If as you say that the relationship was "very good" up to that point, I don't imagine that telling your parents to "piss off" and swearing at your mom would do anything to keep that relationship "very good"?

I don't need to know all the details, since your attitude is clearly on display.

Sounds like you need to move out of your parents house and tell them to piss off. Seriously, I was kicked out at 19, and my mom tried to tell me what was "appropriate", to which I responded with a hearty "fuck off!"
Why would the above advice be "appropriate" for PE since your situation and his are totally different????

You so need to get a job and move the hell out of your parent’s home. You’ll never have much self-esteem or get very far in this life without striking out on your own once in a while (just shy away from the cults). Personally, if college didn’t work out and I didn’t have any job prospects, and I was 21, I’d join the military and do something. I know life can be paralyzing at times, but it’s not going to get any cooler living at home. Sometimes you just have to dive in and see what happens.

If you’re a university student and don’t want to get saddled with a student loan to pay for campus then you should still be respectful of your parents for putting up with you in their home. I ended up dumping a girlfriend, who lived at home, because I didn’t like her treating her parents like crap, when they let her live at home well after graduation and barely asked anything of her. I guess I didn’t want to get in a serious relationship with someone who would probably end up treating me the same.

It’s one thing to go home briefly after the universe pulls the rug out from under you, but even then you should be looking for work to get out of there and not be an inconvenience longer than you have to be. I know a lot of people who have had to do this and they try to help out around the place as much as they can and get on with their lives. Parents expect their kids to get out into the work force and become self-reliant. Most of them are willing to help pick up after the troubled lives of their kids after they leave home and kids should be thankful of it.

Unless you’re staying at home to take care of your parents because they’re shut-ins and there’s not enough money for home care workers to take care of them, there aren’t a lot of good reasons to live at home once you can leave.

Most parents will always think of you as their kid. Let’s face it they never partied with you during adolescence or saw you at your best in a serious relationship. Your parents tend to have one memory of you the kid and that is hard to get passed. Until you’re married and have children of your own, most parents refuse to see you as anything but their child. Parents do have some pretty insane rules that sound like they were watching too much Doctor Phil, but they’re parents and that’s what they often do. From what I see being a parent isn’t much of a picnic either.

The Bruce

We live in a small town of 4000 out in the middle of nowhere.

But you live in the same state as Minneapolis/St Paul. The twin cities is one of the best places in the country for a young person to start a new life. I have never met friendlier or more helpful people anywhere in the country. It's exciting, fun, clean, safe, filled with people in their twenties, and there are many groups for people who are into sci/fi/fantasy (from some of your posts, I'm guessing you're into that). My best friend belongs to a sci/fi fantasy writers group there. She loves it. And a guy I used to date was part of a D&D group.

When I was 25, I left Texas with only $400 in my pocket and made my way to St Paul. A city I knew almost nothing about and where I knew no one. I spent my first night there in a cheap motel with the local news paper. I found a cheap furnished room to rent in some guys house in the paper. He allowed me to pay by the week. Then I hit the pavement checking out my new neighborhood. Within 2 days I had a job as a cashier in a local grocery store. I ate a lot of ramen and mac & cheese and saved up a little money while I looked for a better job and a better place to live. I got on with a temporary agency doing basic clerical work like filing. This was/is a great entry level position as temp agencies train you to all sorts of jobs. Then I worked my way up into better positions and was eventually offered a premanent job.

If I can do it, you probably can too. Try to get a part time job locally to save up a bit of money. Then hop a bus into the cities and start your new life.

There are, of course, other options. You are still young enough to get into Job Corps. It's basically a free trade school for young people. They will train you to a job, feed you, give you a free place to live, and sometimes even a little spending money to boot.

And if you are disabled, there are all sorts of programs available in the cities to get you on your feet and help you live independently. If you need help finding them, let me know. I'm disabled myself.

Just some food for though.

Edit to ad: Here is a link to one sci/fi fantasy group in the cities. Maybe you can make some connections before you move. http://www.misfit.org/

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http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=45556852
I used to be in a few groups about inbreeding, but I left those just before I posted this thread.

Christian, but not catholic, if I remeber correctly. :)

Now I'm agnostic. :)


Interesting stuff, it says you got your braces removed... was that the ortho stuff, what other stuff are you going to see about doing?

Is that the same Princetons with Princeton University?

Agnostic A? I am Gnostic, atleast I think I am. Other may say I'm conceited and delusional.

Yah your blog doesn't seem 'out there.. it's actually quite glittz..

At the request of the person I was the instrament to the damaged of someones hearing before, sadly I don't feel upset about it cause the kid asked (and I didn't know about hearing loss then) and my capgun was confiscated from me. It will be increasingly irrelevant within the next 10 years when sensory loss becomes more corrective (much like the eyesight revolution in the last 5 to 10 years.

I started a myspace page as well.. now everyone can have one..
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=58999644

So I now know why your name is Plutonian Empire

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the other things were. 1. That celestia program sounds neat

and

2. Looks like you are quite connected in a network on Myspace.

Actually, its not a BS rule. You don't own the place, your parents do. Even if you pay rent, your parents are the land-lords and have ultimate say over what you can do with your property.

I guess your parents just didnt care enough that you called it BS. Mine did, and since I don't pay for my own expenses when I am at home, I live under their rules.

Landlords can't tell you what to do with your property. The most they can leagally say is don't do anything illegal.
Honestly, how do they know you're in those groups. Just tell them you're not in them. It's not like they are watching over your sholder... or are they...CREEPY!