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Is it just me, or should there be a manual that comes with guys?? I mean, you know, to know what they are thinking whenever they say the stuff that comes out of their mouth? Guys almost always act so clueless it drives me insane, but I still love guys... What do you think? Has being in love driven me over the edge or what?:( Being a girl is so hard

Ambiguity is what makes us so delightful.

Actually, guys are very easy to deal with. If you like one, walk up to him, and tell him "I should very much like to sleep with you." He will then agree. :D

Alternatively, if that's not what you're after, it's still pretty simple. Guys are known for not getting "hints", so you might have to open your mouth and say it straight out.

Is it just me, or should there be a manual that comes with guys?? I mean, you know, to know what they are thinking whenever they say the stuff that comes out of their mouth? Guys almost always act so clueless it drives me insane, but I still love guys... What do you think? Has being in love driven me over the edge or what?:(As far as I've figured, the key is to ask them what they're on about & tell them what you need.

Most guys I've been with didn't exactly have romance & empathy pouring out of their ears. But they're usually happy to make you happy. They just need to be told 90% of the time.

guys are thinking about sex most of the time. so if we are clueless about something, its probably because we were daydreaming...

Big Mistake, you know.

Claiming yourself to be a girl will only launch a wave of lonely male NSers to come and fawn all over you. Unless you're into that kind of stuff.

But to clear up your question:

Two things run in a guy's mind:

1) Sex.
2) What traits makes them eligible to be better than other guys. Most guys are competitive.

When a Guy acts clueless, or talks wierd, he's usually nervous. Or he's used to talking like that, in which he used to be nervous.

Guys aren't hard to figure out. We leave all the difficulties to women.

Is it just me, or should there be a manual that comes with guys?? I mean, you know, to know what they are thinking whenever they say the stuff that comes out of their mouth? Guys almost always act so clueless it drives me insane, but I still love guys... What do you think? Has being in love driven me over the edge or what?:( Being a girl is so hard

Yeah, I could use a little advice, like how to impress a guy if I don't have breasts, or how to avoid impressing certain guys too much (I don't want to be mean, but the only guys who like me aren't guys that I wouldn't date. Not because of appearence or social status. Either personality or just a lack of attraction).
Then again, guys don't really understand girls, which is just the way of the world.

guys are easy. We are pretty forward. If we say something, don't dig for the "hidden meaning". Chances are, the only hidden meaning is "I want to have sex with you". And if not that, then there isn't really anything. If you want something, ask for it. Don't give hints, no matter how straightforward you think you are, I promise, a guy will miss it. And never, ever say "nothing" when we ask what is wrong, and then expect us to try to figure it out. We aren't psychic. you say nothing, fine. You don't want to talk about it. Lets get a pizza and some beer.

Claiming yourself to be a girl will only launch a wave of lonely male NSers to come and fawn all over you. Unless you're into that kind of stuff.


OMG ARCTIC FOX IM IN LOVE WITH U!!!!1!!1!!!! U R TEH BEAUTIFUL!!!1!!!one!!11!!1!!!!~

Really think that?

I've always been under the opinion that a man would come with an operating pamphlet, or possibly a sheet (2 pages max, regular font) while a woman would come with something along the lines of an operating encyclopedia.

Just remember that subtlety doesn't work, and what you see/hear is what you get.

Guys, for the most part, are ridiculously simple to figure out. Generally, we don't like complex emotional crap. That's the job of women, and when women get all complicated, we quickly lose any understanding of the situation, and think one of two things:
1) She wants me.
2) This is going nowhere... I'm kinda hungry...

OMG ARCTIC FOX IM IN LOVE WITH U!!!!1!!1!!!! U R TEH BEAUTIFUL!!!1!!!one!!11!!1!!!!~

Makes sense.

Our only problem is that our brains don't make the connections you do. On the plus side, we only hear one thing at a time.

We aren't that difficult once you know the basics. Although, a manual would just make us even more boring then we already are.

Is it just me, or should there be a manual that comes with guys?? I mean, you know, to know what they are thinking whenever they say the stuff that comes out of their mouth? Guys almost always act so clueless it drives me insane, but I still love guys... What do you think? Has being in love driven me over the edge or what?:( Being a girl is so hard
what did we do wrong now? :confused:


Guys are known for not getting "hints", so you might have to open your mouth and say it straight out.
amen.

friend of mine at school/college fancied me for about 4 years or so. never so much caught a whiff of it. didn't help when she eventually got herself a boyfriend and started boasting about how happy she was with him and stuff - i was happy for her... how was i supposed to know that she was trying to make me feel jealous so i'd try and ask her out (dispite the fact that she was already going out with someone and was seemingly happy and i respected her enough to not want to ruin that for her) or something? i only found out she fancied me at all till after college.
its women who should come with a manual!

edit: well, most woment. there's one woman i can understand pretty well i think without a manual or even a quick installation guide for extremely impatient people... and its really rather great! :P

Two things run in a guy's mind:

1) Sex.
2) What traits makes them eligible to be better than other guys. Most guys are competitive.

I hate sexist generalizations like this, all the more so cuz when a man makes a sexist generalization about women, he gets pounced on by everyone. It's a double standard usually. Gr.

Male thought process:

sex sex women sex food beer pizza beer sex sports beer sex sports food food women sex sex beer sex cars sex sports sex while watching sports drinking a beer in a car and eating pizza...

rinse, lather, repete.

I hate sexist generalizations like this, all the more so cuz when a man makes a sexist generalization about women, he gets pounced on by everyone. It's a double standard usually. Gr.

That is really what runs through a large chunk of men. You really can't get past that.

Male thought process:

sex sex women sex food beer pizza beer sex sports beer sex sports food food women sex sex beer sex cars sex sports sex while watching sports drinking a beer in a car and eating pizza...

rinse, lather, repete.
You missed out money, work, and the girl from Accounts.

Really think that?

I've always been under the opinion that a man would come with an operating pamphlet, or possibly a sheet (2 pages max, regular font) while a woman would come with something along the lines of an operating encyclopedia.

My thoughts exactly.


Seriously though, guys are actually very easy to understand. Just remember that you're much better off being blatently obvious about things because we will never catch the hidden meaning before its too late.

Trying to understand a guy is like trying to understand a sandwhich. I've never met someone who could not figure out a sandwhich.

You missed out money, work, and the girl from Accounts.

Mmmm the girl from accounts....
I mean... :eek:

You missed out money, work, and the girl from Accounts.
good point...however, I look at it this way. Money would make me think of the fact that I have to buy more beer, which leads to sex.
work would make me realize its saturday and I should be drinking, which leads to beer, which leads to sex

and the girl from accounts? yeah. sex. flat out.

I come with a manual.

Trying to understand a guy is like trying to understand a sandwhich. I've never met someone who could not figure out a sandwhich.

Yes. We have the flaky bread, underneath it flesh and meat, some hot sauce for some, and sometimes a healthier sandwich will have their greens.

I think men are a lot easier to get along with than women. They are also less complex than us and arent as hard to please.

Love hasnt driven you over the edge, its just warming you up for what has yet to come.:)

Yes. We have the flaky bread, underneath it flesh and meat, some hot sauce for some, and sometimes a healthier sandwich will have their greens.
Plus afterwards you'll still feel unsatisfied and quite hungry.

That is really what runs through a large chunk of men. You really can't get past that.

If it's true, you're only describing general human traits. Competitive - all animals and plants compete with one another. Sex - well, all beings that reproduce sexually probably 'think' about sex a good deal of the time. What's the point, unless you mean to imply that women are superior and somehow more complex?

Male thought process:

sex sex women sex food beer pizza beer sex sports beer sex sports food food women sex sex beer sex cars sex sports sex while watching sports drinking a beer in a car and eating pizza...

rinse, lather, repete.

Har. Yeah, here's the female thought process:

sex sex men sex clothes hair shopping nails sex men sex money...

(it's shorter, because women are stupider. Hee hee!)

I hate sexist generalizations like this, all the more so cuz when a man makes a sexist generalization about women, he gets pounced on by everyone. It's a double standard usually. Gr.

Agreed.

Actually, though, a great example of the double standard is in shows like the Simpsons and Everybody Loves Raymond, where all they care about is sex and football games, and can't even balance a check correctly.

They are also less complex than us

= dumb


and arent as hard to please.
& dumber :p

We don't act clueless... we are clueless. But that's because we really don't know there's something we should have a clue about, and women are so bad at communicating that they can't properly express that there's something to have a clue about, much less giving out a clue. In fact the proper word for what they refer to as a 'clue' is 'decoy'.

And I wouldn't mind getting a clue from the girl in accounts...

Really think that?

I've always been under the opinion that a man would come with an operating pamphlet, or possibly a sheet (2 pages max, regular font) while a woman would come with something along the lines of an operating encyclopedia.



Okay, nice to be marginalized. Most men, or at least not I, are not the remedial persons which you are insinuating. I am actually quite capable of understanding my female friends; some of us have actual evolved from taking things at face value. Things are rarely what they appear to be.

Try to be less naïf/naïve.

= dumb


& dumber :p


Haha! Nuh uh...you are just much more simple creatures. Plus you get to pee standing up, and that takes some skill.:D

Agreed.

Actually, though, a great example of the double standard is in shows like the Simpsons and Everybody Loves Raymond, where all they care about is sex and football games, and can't even balance a check correctly.

It is, in fact it's prevalent throughout popular culture. Gender based stereotypes are OK when they insult or degrade men, but sexist when it does the same to women.

Har. Yeah, here's the female thought process:

sex sex men sex clothes hair shopping nails sex men sex money...

(it's shorter, because women are stupider. Hee hee!)
*shrug* Hey, that was actually close to my though process...atleast I can laugh at myself.

= dumb
& dumber
*high five's*
chicks, brah.

Plus afterwards you'll still feel unsatisfied and quite hungry.
Which leads us to Hotdogs: The Dildo of the Sandwhich World.

Agreed.

Actually, though, a great example of the double standard is in shows like the Simpsons and Everybody Loves Raymond, where all they care about is sex and football games, and can't even balance a check correctly.


That which being television programmes. Ever notice how it is so taboo to make fun of women/ portray them as inferior; but god forbid in the telecommunication conglomerates lift a finger over the negative and stereotypical portrayal of men.

Haha! Nuh uh...you are just much more simple creatures. Plus you get to pee standing up, and that takes some skill.:D
well i would argue there's no way to say that my gender is more "simple" without sounding derogatory in some way, but i'm too lazy (and simple!) to do so ;)

though, yes, it does take a fair bit of skill! *is so proud of self* :p

It is, in fact it's prevalent throughout popular culture. Gender based stereotypes are OK when they insult or degrade men, but sexist when it does the same to women.

I bet you couldn't even play dirty dozens with a women without getting sued.

*shrug* Hey, that was actually close to my though process...atleast I can laugh at myself.


*high five's*
chicks, brah.


I think he was agreeing with me, not saying what I said was dumb.....or was he? hmmm *glares at PM*;)

It is, in fact it's prevalent throughout popular culture. Gender based stereotypes are OK when they insult or degrade men, but sexist when it does the same to women.
it's always sexist. That doesn't mean it isn't funny. I think its just as funny when a girl makes sexist jokes about herself as when I do it to myself. Or when I make a sexist joke against women, and they shoot one right back.

actually, I think its kinda hot.

I think he was agreeing with me, not saying what I said was dumb.....or was he? hmmm *glares at PM*;)
haha...doesn't matter is the beauty. I just kinda wanted an excuse to give PM a high five and say "chick brah"

well i would argue there's no way to say that my gender is more "simple" without sounding derogatory in some way, but i'm too lazy (and simple!) to do so ;)

though, yes, it does take a fair bit of skill! *is so proud of self* :p


On the contrary, when I said simple, I certainly didnt mean it in a deragatory way. I mean we sometimes tend to make things more complicated than they actually are. we=women.

I hate sexist generalizations as well. None of the things in the Sarkhaan's post are on my mind. True, they represent a lot of men, but I don't appreciate being falsely labelled.
ZOMG!!@~ONE SEX ISN'T WHAT U LIFE 4?!?!?~ No. And I'm not gay. I do have a girlfriend. And you know what? Everything we do is more pleasurable than it is in a meaningless, sex-driven relationship. I've been in them before. I like things better this way.

I have complex emotions. Then again, I'm bipolar, I experience life in extremes.
I do catch onto hints more than most guys, but I like it when people are forward with me. The frivolity of trying to be subtle is... well, pointless. Laughable. Life is too short to live in subtlety. Say what you mean and mean what you say.

In that regard, I usually don't have any hidden meanings to what I say. Occasionally I do, but that's life.

women
Make that woman. Cheating is against my code of ethics. And a 'code of ethics' isn't feminazi propaganda--they exist, however rare.

food
Okay, maybe this one does apply to me. :D

beer
Beer smells like crap, tastes like crap, makes your breath smell like crap... Alcohol is a depressant, drinking isn't going to make you feel better if you're depressed. Oh, I have terrible experiences with alcoholism as well. And on top of that, it runs in my family, and bipolar depressive phases + drinking to feel better is a bad combo.

pizza
See 'food'. (:

sports
Guys running around a field throwing a ball around. Pointless. Playing certain sports is fun enough, but I'd rather watch paint dry than watch ESPN.

cars
Blocks of metal on wheels. Sure they get you around, but that's all. Who cares how nice of a car you have? Either it's compensation for sexual insecurities or unknowingly labelling yourself as such.

it's always sexist. That doesn't mean it isn't funny. I think its just as funny when a girl makes sexist jokes about herself as when I do it to myself. Or when I make a sexist joke against women, and they shoot one right back.

actually, I think its kinda hot.


A girl called me a lazy-ass motherfucker; I called her a fat ugly bitch -- in that order. Guess what happened.

A girl called me a lazy-ass motherfucker; I called her a fat ugly bitch -- in that order. Guess what happened.
You fell in love and are getting married next week?

On the contrary, when I said simple, I certainly didnt mean it in a deragatory way. I mean we sometimes tend to make things more complicated than they actually are. we=women.
I personally think of being "simple" in some ways to be a compliment...I mean, in some ways it can be offensive, but at the same time, the way you're saying it, I find it quite nice. You're just saying we aren't spending 20 minutes figuring out what someone "meant" by what they said

You fell in love and are getting married next week?


:p That made me laugh. No, I got an office referral (highschool is great) and she got nothing. Apparently, I was "out of line" and that she "didn't deserve that."

ya know.....it may just be you:D

I personally think of being "simple" in some ways to be a compliment...I mean, in some ways it can be offensive, but at the same time, the way you're saying it, I find it quite nice. You're just saying we aren't spending 20 minutes figuring out what someone "meant" by what they said


Or twenty minutes figuring out which pumps look best with that skirt.:p

If it's true, you're only describing general human traits. Competitive - all animals and plants compete with one another. Sex - well, all beings that reproduce sexually probably 'think' about sex a good deal of the time. What's the point, unless you mean to imply that women are superior and somehow more complex?

Ugh, a serious conversation. How I hate this so.

I'm not claiming that it's solely for a guy, but that guys are simpler, but choose to be less complex. Let's give a thought:

Let's say person A had sex with three people in one night. Now, guys are generally seen more favourably by other guys than women would by their own. Now, it's not the fact that yes, humans generally are sexually driven at times, but guys are the gender which have a strong emphasis on this. There are many exceptions, but the majority usually see casual sex as not procreation or something romantic/passionate, but just pleasure. It's just sex, mostly.

Or twenty minutes figuring out which pumps look best with that skirt.:p


I'm not gay; but, I do have to admit, sometimes it DOES take awhile to get dressed in the mornings. (Though pumps have never impeded me) :P

*high five's*
chicks, brah.
*manly hugs* ;)

It is, in fact it's prevalent throughout popular culture. Gender based stereotypes are OK when they insult or degrade men, but sexist when it does the same to women.
*nods*

"women are airheads who can think of nothing but shopping and shoes" = sexist

"men are simple things to be pitied who can think of little more than sex and have primitive dickwaving contests at every interval" = 'funny'


there was a women's magazine i leafed through out of sheer boredom the other day a while back, and they had a 4 page article on "undersanding your man". the first thing that hit me was all the way through it kept on talking about things you can change and things you can't, like he's some kind of home-improvement project or something... if you don't like him, don't date him! its simple!
so that got me confused... and then elsewhere it kept on referring to modern man as little more than a primitive caveman hunter-gatherer in a suit. things like "men like barbecues because its like sitting round the fire with members of his tribe roasting the spoils of the day's hunt" struck me as bollocks. maybe there's some truth to it, i don't know, but it was indicative of the pervailing "men are stupid so just put up with them and laugh at their stupidity" attitude.
i was gonna make a thread on here about it but i figured it'd be a can of worms i really didn't care that much about (and still don't in general... but seeing how the issue has been raised...).
i wouldn't have a problem with it if it weren't so pervasive all over popular culture, if that culture weren't affecting the attitude of millions of women toward men around the globe, and if it were recognised that there is a double standard here: for similar things to be said about women in a men's magazine would be "sexist". undoubtedly. in this case, it was either a bit of fun or deadly serious, but not a hint of acknowledging the derogatory nature of the article... *is tired and hoping he's still making sense*

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On the contrary, when I said simple, I certainly didnt mean it in a deragatory way. I mean we sometimes tend to make things more complicated than they actually are. we=women.
hehe fair enough, but for sure this magazine didn't think the same as you :)

I hate sexist generalizations as well. None of the things in the Sarkhaan's post are on my mind. True, they represent a lot of men, but I don't appreciate being falsely labelled.
ZOMG!!@~ONE SEX ISN'T WHAT U LIFE 4?!?!?~ No. And I'm not gay. I do have a girlfriend. And you know what? Everything we do is more pleasurable than it is in a meaningless, sex-driven relationship. I've been in them before. I like things better this way.

I have complex emotions. Then again, I'm bipolar, I experience life in extremes.
I do catch onto hints more than most guys, but I like it when people are forward with me. The frivolity of trying to be subtle is... well, pointless. Laughable. Life is too short to live in subtlety. Say what you mean and mean what you say.

In that regard, I usually don't have any hidden meanings to what I say. Occasionally I do, but that's life.


Make that woman. Cheating is against my code of ethics. And a 'code of ethics' isn't feminazi propaganda--they exist, however rare.


Okay, maybe this one does apply to me. :D


Beer smells like crap, tastes like crap, makes your breath smell like crap... Alcohol is a depressant, drinking isn't going to make you feel better if you're depressed. Oh, I have terrible experiences with alcoholism as well. And on top of that, it runs in my family, and bipolar depressive phases + drinking to feel better is a bad combo.


See 'food'. (:


Guys running around a field throwing a ball around. Pointless. Playing certain sports is fun enough, but I'd rather watch paint dry than watch ESPN.


Blocks of metal on wheels. Sure they get you around, but that's all. Who cares how nice of a car you have? Either it's compensation for sexual insecurities or unknowingly labelling yourself as such.
First of all, I'm a guy. I make fun of myself. I laugh. It makes life a hell of alot more fun. Rather than getting offended by what I said, I suggest you just laugh about it. Life is alot more fun.

I have complex thoughts. Ask any one of my profs how often I've managed to confuse them not because I'm being unclear, but because of the obscure references I use to defend myself and the complexity of my arguments. Additionally, I have emotions. I just don't let them stop me from enjoying life every so often

hints...well, you got me there.

I don't cheat. I'm possibly the most faithful person ever. Ask any of my old girlfriends. Better yet, if you want to understand why I don't cheat, ask the slut who cheated on me 5 times.

food...yeah.

Beer, aquired taste. I enjoy it.

hockey is life.

I drive a pontiac 98 grand am. yeah. no compensation. I still enjoy a fine automobile

rather than getting offended by what I say, just friggin laugh.

:p That made me laugh. No, I got an office referral (highschool is great) and she got nothing. Apparently, I was "out of line" and that she "didn't deserve that."
To which you should have responded "So, you really think I'm a lazy ass motherfucker?" all with a very serious face and no hint whatsoever of sarcasm.

Anyway, that's what I used to do when I got into this kind of trouble. It didn't help my case any but made for interesting stories afterwards.

*manly hugs* ;)


*nods*

"women are airheads who can think of nothing but shopping and shoes" = sexist

"men are simple things to be pitied who can think of little more than sex and have primitive dickwaving contests at every interval" = 'funny'


there was a women's magazine i leafed through out of sheer boredom the other day a while back, and they had a 4 page article on "undersanding your man". the first thing that hit me was all the way through it kept on talking about things you can change and things you can't, like he's some kind of home-improvement project or something... if you don't like him, don't date him! its simple!
so that got me confused... and then elsewhere it kept on referring to modern man as little more than a primitive caveman hunter-gatherer in a suit. things like "men like barbecues because its like sitting round the fire with members of his tribe roasting the spoils of the day's hunt" struck me as bollocks. maybe there's some truth to it, i don't know, but it was indicative of the pervailing "men are stupid so just put up with them and laugh at their stupidity" attitude.
i was gonna make a thread on here about it but i figured it'd be a can of worms i really didn't care that much about.
i wouldn't have a problem with it if it weren't so pervasive all over popular culture, if that culture weren't affecting the attitude of millions of women toward men around the globe, and if it were recognised that there is a double standard here: for similar things to be said about women in a men's magazine would be "sexist". undoubtedly. in this case, it was either a bit of fun or deadly serious, but not a hint of acknowledging the derogatory nature of the article... *is tired and hoping he's still making sense*

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*manly hugs back*

see, the way I see it is rather than get pissed off, just take it as a joke. Mel Brooks theory...if something is bad (holocaust), the best revenge is to laugh about it. Life sucks if you just get pissed.

*manly hugs back*

see, the way I see it is rather than get pissed off, just take it as a joke. Mel Brooks theory...if something is bad (holocaust), the best revenge is to laugh about it. Life sucks if you just get pissed.
well quite - i do see it as something of a joke... but the thing that does irk me slightly is that the magazine didn't see it as a joke. it was all serious editorial.

bah! i care, yet i don't care. suffice it to say, i don't care enough to stay up much longer talking about it :P

:p That made me laugh. No, I got an office referral (highschool is great) and she got nothing. Apparently, I was "out of line" and that she "didn't deserve that."
you got dicked over...see, what would have been cool is if she shot something back. If you can dish it, then you can take it.

First of all, I'm a guy. I make fun of myself. I laugh. It makes life a hell of alot more fun. Rather than getting offended by what I said, I suggest you just laugh about it. Life is alot more fun.

I have complex thoughts. Ask any one of my profs how often I've managed to confuse them not because I'm being unclear, but because of the obscure references I use to defend myself and the complexity of my arguments. Additionally, I have emotions. I just don't let them stop me from enjoying life every so often

hints...well, you got me there.

I don't cheat. I'm possibly the most faithful person ever. Ask any of my old girlfriends. Better yet, if you want to understand why I don't cheat, ask the slut who cheated on me 5 times.

food...yeah.

Beer, aquired taste. I enjoy it.

hockey is life.

I drive a pontiac 98 grand am. yeah. no compensation. I still enjoy a fine automobile

rather than getting offended by what I say, just friggin laugh.
Yeah, it's funny. I just get offended because instead of seeing it as a joke, most women think it's true.

ATTENTION: Sometimes guys do have hidden meaning in what they say. In English, I think they're called "jokes."


Edit: Basketball > hockey. Fuck hockey. <3

well quite - i do see it as something of a joke... but the thing that does irk me slightly is that the magazine didn't see it as a joke. it was all serious editorial.

bah! i care, yet i don't care. suffice it to say, i don't care enough to stay up much longer talking about it :P
haha...I was a lifeguard and worked with all girls. I memorized every edition of cosmo. It pissed me off, esp when my coworkers would ask me if it was true, but they got the point when I just made jokes that it was all bullshit. Some girls are dumb. Some guys are dumb. all in all,I'd rather just laugh.

haha...I almost said "sleep early tonight?", but I have no idea what time it is there.

God, those magazines are so full of shit. "What Men really want", "What Women really need", "50 ways to make your partner love you more", "What men are really thinking"...etc. Its usually a bunch of biased crap

I don't see how an operating manual could help. It would probably be written in Japanese with a translation by an Indian computer expert whose second language is English (or whatever your first language is). The only way for women to figure men out and vice versa is OJT. It takes forever, but it's worth it in the long run.

Yeah, it's funny. I just get offended because instead of seeing it as a joke, most women think it's true.

ATTENTION: Sometimes guys do have hidden meaning in what they say. In English, I think they're called "jokes."


Edit: Basketball > hockey. Fuck hockey. <3
you're going down for that hockey jab:D

I figure, if you take it seriously, then you deserve the consequences. Guys will think you're a bitch, and they'll stay away.

Ugh, a serious conversation. How I hate this so.


Well this *is* NSGeneral...

There are many exceptions, but the majority usually see casual sex as not procreation or something romantic/passionate, but just pleasure. It's just sex, mostly.

But this applies to both sexes as well.

It takes two to tango, after all. So unless all this casual sex you speak of is happening solely between two men, women are having just as much casual sex as men are.

There is usually the argument, women look for romantic/passionate. I say that's bullshit. I see no difference between romance and casual, the only difference IS perception.

And when it comes to perception there are self-fulfilling prophecies. Like for example, if we live in a society that constantly tells us men are stupid, jerks and rapists who only want to jizz and then go have a beer, men will then feel it is acceptable, even encouraged, by society for them to act that way.

Similarly, society can delude women into thinking that they're not allowed to want casual sex, but instead they must deceive themselves and others into believing they want some 19th century love poem romance. Then when they don't find it - because it's rare and/or because they really only wanted a casual screw like everyone else - they get disappointed.

The problems will remain as long as we collectively and individually incourage gender stereotyping.

God, those magazines are so full of shit. "What Men really want", "What Women really need", "50 ways to make your partner love you more", "What men are really thinking"...etc. Its usually a bunch of biased crap
but they're so funny. Like when I read the article "50 ways to please your man"...10 of them were really hot. most were just kinda eh, and maybe 10 were just shitty.

well quite - i do see it as something of a joke... but the thing that does irk me slightly is that the magazine didn't see it as a joke. it was all serious editorial.
Oh, don't worry. Let them think so, they need to feel good about themselves, and besides, our plans for world domination have worked out so far. We now have them climbing the corporate ladder desperately and trying to get rid of the glass ceiling. Meanwhile we keep doing what we want.

Hahahahaaaa haaaahahaha haaaaahaahaha

(Oops, I hope no woman has read this)

God, those magazines are so full of shit. "What Men really want", "What Women really need", "50 ways to make your partner love you more", "What men are really thinking"...etc. Its usually a bunch of biased crap
May I be the first to point you to http://maddox.xmission.com/26_things.html ?

Well this *is* NSGeneral...



But this applies to both sexes as well.

It takes two to tango, after all. So unless all this casual sex you speak of is happening solely between two men, women are having just as much casual sex as men are.

There is usually the argument, women look for romantic/passionate. I say that's bullshit. I see no difference between romance and casual, the only difference IS perception.

And when it comes to perception there are self-fulfilling prophecies. Like for example, if we live in a society that constantly tells us men are stupid, jerks and rapists who only want to jizz and then go have a beer, men will then feel it is acceptable, even encouraged, by society for them to act that way.

Similarly, society can delude women into thinking that they're not allowed to want casual sex, but instead they must deceive themselves and others into believing they want some 19th century love poem romance. Then when they don't find it - because it's rare and/or because they really only wanted a casual screw like everyone else - they get disappointed.

The problems will remain as long as we collectively and individually incourage gender stereotyping.
perhaps it doesn't come through on NS, but the reason why I make these jokes is because they are the exact opposite of who I am...therefore, at the same time as I make the joke, I am proving it wrong, adding a fun little bit of irony. Proving people wrong is fun. Rubbing it in their face is even more fun.

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its women who should come with a manual!

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hell yea!

Oh, don't worry. Let them think so, they need to feel good about themselves, and besides, our plans for world domination have worked out so far. We now have them climbing the corporate ladder desperately and trying to get rid of the glass ceiling. Meanwhile we keep doing what we want.

Hahahahaaaa haaaahahaha haaaaahaahaha

(Oops, I hope no woman has read this)
you wern't supposed to tell. Report to HQ for your punishment;)

And anyway, no, men don't need a manual. Nor women. It wouldn't work.

People are not mass-manufactured. Everyone needs his/her OWN manual.

"Hi. I'm Bob, here's my manual."

It'd make dating a lot simpler. Instead of trying to use Mary's manual on Jane, and then finding out too late that Mary was OK with anal sex while Jane had a phobia about it. Oops! Bugger.

Oh, don't worry. Let them think so, they need to feel good about themselves, and besides, our plans for world domination have worked out so far. We now have them climbing the corporate ladder desperately and trying to get rid of the glass ceiling. Meanwhile we keep doing what we want.

Hahahahaaaa haaaahahaha haaaaahaahaha

(Oops, I hope no woman has read this)
lol! :p

haha...I was a lifeguard and worked with all girls. I memorized every edition of cosmo. It pissed me off, esp when my coworkers would ask me if it was true, but they got the point when I just made jokes that it was all bullshit. Some girls are dumb. Some guys are dumb. all in all,I'd rather just laugh.

haha...I almost said "sleep early tonight?", but I have no idea what time it is there.
coming up on 3 am... but thats a good attitude to have :cool:

May I be the first to point you to http://maddox.xmission.com/26_things.html ?

LOL



How bout this:

http://www.pointsincase.com/columns/justin/5-1-05.htm

(you have to scroll down a little after you click the link)

And anyway, no, men don't need a manual. Nor women. It wouldn't work.

People are not mass-manufactured. Everyone needs his/her OWN manual.

"Hi. I'm Bob, here's my manual."

It'd make dating a lot simpler. Instead of trying to use Mary's manual on Jane, and then finding out too late that Mary was OK with anal sex while Jane had a phobia about it. Oops! Bugger.
we're men. We don't read the manual *chest bump*

you wern't supposed to tell. Report to HQ for your punishment;)
Again? Heck! Well, I hope I get Mistress Helga this time. She knows how to handle the pads.

lol! :p


coming up on 3 am... but thats a good attitude to have :cool:
ouch. I was going to make fun of you for going to sleep at 10 untill I realized there was a little invention called timezones a while ago. *shrug*

yeah, the attitude gets me though no worse for the wear.

Again? Heck! Well, I hope I get Mistress Helga this time. She knows how to handle the pads.
*scans list*

nope, it looks like Mistress Olga is on. And we all know what that means.;)

Is it just me, or should there be a manual that comes with guys?? I mean, you know, to know what they are thinking whenever they say the stuff that comes out of their mouth? Guys almost always act so clueless it drives me insane, but I still love guys... What do you think? Has being in love driven me over the edge or what?:( Being a girl is so hard

Men are extremely simple, then the women take their complexities and project them all over us.

Men are extremely simple, then the women take their complexities and project them all over us.

Women are pretty simple, too. Most people tend to overthink things anyway.

All that most women want is respect, love, cuddling, a little adventure and some security. The rest is just frills.

Women are pretty simple, too. Most people tend to overthink things anyway.

All that most women want is respect, love, cuddling, a little adventure and some security. The rest is just frills.

I have known enough to know that is an oversimplification. The fact you combined "a little adventure" with "some security" only furthers my point.

Women are pretty simple, too. Most people tend to overthink things anyway.

All that most women want is respect, love, cuddling, a little adventure and some security. The rest is just frills.
women tend to want exactly what men want. the biggest difference that I've found is when women give critiques, they try to balance it with good points, whereas men tend to just give the criticism. There was a study on it a while ago.

Women do also tend to be more round about than men, who have a tendency to just spit it all out.

Maybe my manual would read something like:

Thank you for choosing the 1971 MAN standard model. We understand you had to settle for something without all the frills and whistles, but with proper care and maintenance your new MAN should provide you with years and years of good service.

WARNING: If you get your 1971 MAN after 2016, it won't be that many years.

The first thing you should be aware about your MAN is that it's a very autonomous model. The other is that he is completely incapable of taking a hint (standard model, remember?) He will respond to your commands, eventually, as long as you express them clearly. Don't insist on the commands too much because that'll overload his action modulator and can cause a temporary breakdown during which he'll be unnable to accept or process any more input. If you require a command to be obeyed by a certain time limit, be careful to say so very clearly, including the actual time by which the command has to be performed.

Being autonomous means that he will require some time by himself to dedicate to his own functions, like reading, writing, listening to some music, etc. It's not that he doesn't care about you or doesn't want to share, it's just that he needs to acquire and internalize experiences, once he has incorporated these new experiences he will share them with you.

Your 1971 MAN also has a certain outlook in life, which he's not afraid to express. This can make him seem harsh and uncaring at times, but that's just his way to analyze situations: stripping them bare of external layers to get at the hard core of fact, then build up from there. When he does this he's not attacking, but trying to bounce ideas and start a conversation with you. If you're not comfortable with this kind of analytical process, let him know beforehand, but understand that this is the way in which this particular model processes information.

Mmmh... this could be an interesting exercise.

we're men. We don't read the manual *chest bump*

Yeah. Birth damaged our brains too much to care.

*scans list*

nope, it looks like Mistress Olga is on. And we all know what that means.;)
Oh noes! I just started sitting down again after the last time!

LOL



How bout this:

http://www.pointsincase.com/columns/justin/5-1-05.htm

(you have to scroll down a little after you click the link)
It wasn't intended as an attack, but touché. d:

Maybe my manual would read something like:

Thank you for choosing the 1971 MAN standard model. We understand you had to settle for something without all the frills and whistles, but with proper care and maintenance your new MAN should provide you with years and years of good service.

WARNING: If you get your 1971 MAN after 2016, it won't be that many years.

The first thing you should be aware about your MAN is that it's a very autonomous model. The other is that he is completely incapable of taking a hint (standard model, remember?) He will respond to your commands, eventually, as long as you express them clearly. Don't insist on the commands too much because that'll overload his action modulator and can cause a temporary breakdown during which he'll be unnable to accept or process any more input. If you require a command to be obeyed by a certain time limit, be careful to say so very clearly, including the actual time by which the command has to be performed.

Being autonomous means that he will require some time by himself to dedicate to his own functions, like reading, writing, listening to some music, etc. It's not that he doesn't care about you or doesn't want to share, it's just that he needs to acquire and internalize experiences, once he has incorporated these new experiences he will share them with you.

Your 1971 MAN also has a certain outlook in life, which he's not afraid to express. This can make him seem harsh and uncaring at times, but that's just his way to analyze situations: stripping them bare of external layers to get at the hard core of fact, then build up from there. When he does this he's not attacking, but trying to bounce ideas and start a conversation with you. If you're not comfortable with this kind of analytical process, let him know beforehand, but understand that this is the way in which this particular model processes information.

Mmmh... this could be an interesting exercise.
that's actually pretty good...I'm impressed.

Oh noes! I just started sitting down again after the last time!
we did atleast ask her to shower. And shave a little. the beard was scaring the children.

It wasn't intended as an attack, but touché. d:


I didnt think it was:confused:

I just thought both of our links were funny.

They were, but yours seemed like it was attacking my 'attack'. Vicious cycle indeed. d:

That site is quite amusing.

They were, but yours seemed like it was attacking my 'attack'. Vicious cycle indeed. d:

That site is quite amusing.

sorry for the confusion. :)

Male thought process:

sex sex women sex food beer pizza beer sex sports beer sex sports food food women sex sex beer sex cars sex sports sex while watching sports drinking a beer in a car and eating pizza...

rinse, lather, repete.

I'm too cold to actually take issue with this, but still I'll break it apart to show that some men are different. Obviously sex is on my mind, but only enough for "sex" to be said once not nine times. I don't think much about food (though I do like pizza). I don't care about cars. I have no interest in sports. And I don't drink alcohol (I'm not in anyway against it but I don't enjoy the effects and the health risks being what they are, I prefer recreational drugs that are easier on my body).

My thought process isn't divided into fragments; but to put it in that form so it can be compared to the quote it would be something like: sex, current events, Nietzsche, marijuana, women, attempting to classify people into types so I can understand them, how to better myself, planning things out, psychopharmacology, cultural anthropology, thinking about pet projects, philosophy, mmorpgs...

But still some of the generalizations stand in that I'm generally straight forward and I'm very insensitive.

sorry for the confusion. :)
Peech, I have to say, you remind me of my sister (in a good way. she's a "guys girl", as she puts it. in other words, just really chill to be around)

I'm too cold to actually take issue with this, but still I'll break it apart to show that some men are different. Obviously sex is on my mind, but only enough for "sex" to be said once not nine times. I don't think much about food (though I do like pizza). I don't care about cars. I have no interest in sports. And I don't drink alcohol (I'm not in anyway against it but I don't enjoy the effects and the health risks being what they are, I prefer recreational drugs that are easier on my body).

My thought process isn't divided into fragments; but to put it in that form so it can be compared to the quote it would be something like: sex, current events, Nietzsche, marijuana, women, attempting to classify people into types so I can understand them, how to better myself, planning things out, psychopharmacology, cultural anthropology, thinking about pet projects, philosophy, mmorpgs...

But still some of the generalizations stand in that I'm generally straight forward and I'm very insensitive.
I'll clarify again. I'm a guy. I was joking. Like I said, I just prefer to joke back instead of getting offended by insults.

I'll clarify again. I'm a guy. I was joking. Like I said, I just prefer to joke back instead of getting offended by insults.

As I already said, I didn't actually take issue with it. My post was more the result of boredom than anything else.

Peech, I have to say, you remind me of my sister (in a good way. she's a "guys girl", as she puts it. in other words, just really chill to be around)

Thanks doll. :) I dont dig men bashing or feminazis. I can get along with just about anyone as long as they arent a rude or prejudice person.....no matter their sex. Guys are a-ok with me. And the added plus is that they can usually reach things on the top shelf that I cant! ;)

As I already said, I didn't actually take issue with it. My post was more the result of boredom than anything else.
heh...just figured that I should clarify, just to make sure you wern't taking me as some self-hating male...or some male hating female...*shrug*

Thanks doll. :) I dont dig men bashing or feminazis. I can get along with just about anyone as long as they arent a rude or prejudice person.....no matter their sex. Guys are a-ok with me. And the added plus is that they can usually reach things on the top shelf that I cant! ;)
haha...i'm 6'2" baby!;)

my entire family has existed on the idea that laughter is the best revenge. Being happy hurts someone more than being sad or hurt. Hence why I do make jokes that normally make me seem prejudiced, but I'm really not at all.

My sister just has fun. Guys tend to "get" her more, but she isn't against girls either. Same theory goes for me. If I like you, we'll hang out. If I don't, I wont fake it.

Maybe my manual would read something like:

Thank you for choosing the 1971 MAN standard model. We understand you had to settle for something without all the frills and whistles, but with proper care and maintenance your new MAN should provide you with years and years of good service.

WARNING: If you get your 1971 MAN after 2016, it won't be that many years.

The first thing you should be aware about your MAN is that it's a very autonomous model. The other is that he is completely incapable of taking a hint (standard model, remember?) He will respond to your commands, eventually, as long as you express them clearly. Don't insist on the commands too much because that'll overload his action modulator and can cause a temporary breakdown during which he'll be unnable to accept or process any more input. If you require a command to be obeyed by a certain time limit, be careful to say so very clearly, including the actual time by which the command has to be performed.

Being autonomous means that he will require some time by himself to dedicate to his own functions, like reading, writing, listening to some music, etc. It's not that he doesn't care about you or doesn't want to share, it's just that he needs to acquire and internalize experiences, once he has incorporated these new experiences he will share them with you.

Your 1971 MAN also has a certain outlook in life, which he's not afraid to express. This can make him seem harsh and uncaring at times, but that's just his way to analyze situations: stripping them bare of external layers to get at the hard core of fact, then build up from there. When he does this he's not attacking, but trying to bounce ideas and start a conversation with you. If you're not comfortable with this kind of analytical process, let him know beforehand, but understand that this is the way in which this particular model processes information.

Mmmh... this could be an interesting exercise.
hahahaha... very good :p
gonna have to write one of my own now, when i got a little more time later on... :D

I'm not gay; but, I do have to admit, sometimes it DOES take awhile to get dressed in the mornings. (Though pumps have never impeded me) :P

I am gay and I just pick up whatever's on the floor and put it on. I'm not very fabulous. :(

One major difference between men and women is due to mental evolution (which is the evolution within society of different thinking types for different purposes). Men began as the hunters, the doers, who had every day problems to solve. Therefore they became very methodical (generalising here) and good at solving problems step by step. Women on the other hand stayed at home and organised the social aspects of the group, leading to them becoming good at using the many hints etc that were needed to navigate the social landscape. When men and women came together more (as we got further up the evolutionary chain) they found each other different, and so steriotyped them. Both groups then ended up conforming to the other's steriotype.


That is just my opinon on what has happened, but I have seen that you can gain a lot of information on how both groups think by looking further down the ladder.

god damn it you fucktards who keep saying all guys are into sex all the time. you're the ones who drive the stereotypes on the good ones. go fuck a goat... and that's to both sexes.

god damn it you fucktards who keep saying all guys are into sex all the time. you're the ones who drive the stereotypes on the good ones. go fuck a goat... and that's to both sexes.
again. It's called joking. Why get mad, when you can just laugh it off? Yeah, all I think about is sex. thats right. sex sex sex. that's me. right there. considering I just read the wife of bath tale with an S&M reading, it could be true. Sex sex sex. thats what I live for. Thats all of my relationships.:rolleyes:

please. Deal with it. Stereotypes are something to laugh at. When I fit them, I laugh. when I don't, I laugh and make a joke.

god damn it you fucktards who keep saying all guys are into sex all the time. you're the ones who drive the stereotypes on the good ones. go fuck a goat... and that's to both sexes.


calm down... take a deap breath.... realx...

i do agree with u but many people say men cant turn-down sex if theyr offerd it, but it also doesunt mean that they want it all the time... and also the person who started this topic.... ASK YOUR MUM she will tell u dont go on the web askin about men because they wil all give different opinions on thie subject, some might say theyr ugly sex wanting gits or other might say they loving creatures :p

The problem here is that guys tend to say how they feel.
And chicks don't.
So when a guy says how he feels to a chick, the woman immediately tries to work out what it is that the guy 'really' means.
Likewise when a girl tells a guy how she feels, the guy accepts in prima facie and doesn't try to interpret it any other way.

So for example, when a girl asks her guy how he's feeling, and he says 'I'm ok'. It means he is ok. No need to psycho-analysis what 'I'm ok' means.
But when a girl replies 'I'm ok', it prob means 'I'm not ok, because you forgot to do ...... and then you didn't do ..... and ...etc etc etc' and the guy is meant to pick up on this, work out exactly what's wrong and rectify the mistakes without asking. Asking means he doesn't 'really love her' because 'if he did, he'd know what's wrong'. And so on.

This leads to all sorts of misunderstandings, miscommunications and lots of arguments.

The problem here is that guys tend to say how they feel.
And chicks don't.
So when a guy says how he feels to a chick, the woman immediately tries to work out what it is that the guy 'really' means.
Likewise when a girl tells a guy how she feels, the guy accepts in prima facie and doesn't try to interpret it any other way.

So for example, when a girl asks her guy how he's feeling, and he says 'I'm ok'. It means he is ok. No need to psycho-analysis what 'I'm ok' means.
But when a girl replies 'I'm ok', it prob means 'I'm not ok, because you forgot to do ...... and then you didn't do ..... and ...etc etc etc' and the guy is meant to pick up on this, work out exactly what's wrong and rectify the mistakes without asking. Asking means he doesn't 'really love her' because 'if he did, he'd know what's wrong'. And so on.

This leads to all sorts of misunderstandings, miscommunications and lots of arguments.
sounds about right.

what did we do wrong now? :confused:



amen.

friend of mine at school/college fancied me for about 4 years or so. never so much caught a whiff of it. didn't help when she eventually got herself a boyfriend and started boasting about how happy she was with him and stuff - i was happy for her... how was i supposed to know that she was trying to make me feel jealous so i'd try and ask her out (dispite the fact that she was already going out with someone and was seemingly happy and i respected her enough to not want to ruin that for her) or something? i only found out she fancied me at all till after college.
its women who should come with a manual!

edit: well, most woment. there's one woman i can understand pretty well i think without a manual or even a quick installation guide for extremely impatient people... and its really rather great! :P

agreed 100%, they do need to be more straight forward, how the hell do they expect me to know to "break up a relationship" between her and someone else so that she can date me.
its a never ending process:headbang:

Is it just me, or should there be a manual that comes with guys?? I mean, you know, to know what they are thinking whenever they say the stuff that comes out of their mouth? Guys almost always act so clueless it drives me insane, but I still love guys... What do you think? Has being in love driven me over the edge or what?:( Being a girl is so hard
No, it's not just you. We males feel exactly the same way about women. :)

Actually, guys are very easy to deal with. If you like one, walk up to him, and tell him "I should very much like to sleep with you." He will then agree.
Oh come on, don't pretend you're serious when you say that!

guys are thinking about sex most of the time. so if we are clueless about something, its probably because we were daydreaming...
The same is true for most women, probably.

Yeah, I could use a little advice, like how to impress a guy if I don't have breasts
Confidence and a sense of humour are much more attractive. Besides, the guys who are obsessed with big breasts are the types you don't want to be with anyway.

And never, ever say "nothing" when we ask what is wrong, and then expect us to try to figure it out. We aren't psychic. you say nothing, fine. You don't want to talk about it.
I endorse this statement.

I've always been under the opinion that a man would come with an operating pamphlet, or possibly a sheet (2 pages max, regular font) while a woman would come with something along the lines of an operating encyclopedia.
It is pointless to declare that men are easy to understand when you yourself are male.

I hate sexist generalizations like this, all the more so cuz when a man makes a sexist generalization about women, he gets pounced on by everyone. It's a double standard usually. Gr.
I agree. I am sick of how many people take them seriously.

Male thought process:

sex sex women sex food beer pizza beer sex sports beer sex sports food food women sex sex beer sex cars sex sports sex while watching sports drinking a beer in a car and eating pizza...

rinse, lather, repete.
This is exactly the shit that I'm talking about. I'm male. I know many other men and for the most part they're more complicated than this.

I think men are a lot easier to get along with than women. They are also less complex than us and arent as hard to please.

How are women any more complex than men? It is my firm belief that both sexes, as a whole (conveniently ignoring the existence of individuals), are equally complex.

Har. Yeah, here's the female thought process:

sex sex men sex clothes hair shopping nails sex men sex money...

(it's shorter, because women are stupider. Hee hee!)
Don't forget that clothes, hair, nails and shopping are based on competing with other women and getting men.

Haha! Nuh uh...you are just much more simple creatures. Plus you get to pee standing up, and that takes some skill.
Imagine the outrage that I would provoke if I went out in public and declared that women are simple creatures. But when you say it about men, it's funny, or even worse, agreed with seriously.

I like how Terrorist Cakes, who was such a feminazi in that thread she started yesterday, is asking how to impress guys...
Generalizations and stereotypes like 'all guys care about is getting a girl with huge tits' is why so many women are becoming feminazis. Oh, and Half-Hidden was right. Those types are guys are the ones who do have that thought process (throw in some more 'sex'es, though) and treat you like crap.

And as a side note, most girls I see want little more than sex. And they're the ones who complain about shallow guys. That's not to say there aren't those few who make life worth living because they have more on their mind or in the way they act than sex...

This is exactly the shit that I'm talking about. I'm male. I know many other men and for the most part they're more complicated than this.
*sigh* I will say this again. I too, am male. It is a joke. Laugh it off. Why get pissed, when instead, you can live your life, enjoy being a complex male, and then make a stupid comment like the one I made, and categorically prove it wrong just by making it?

Do I think about sex, girls, cars, beer, sports, and food all the time? No. Is anyone actually dumb enough to believe that I do? Well, appearently there are some...however, I am going to hazzard a no here, and say the ones who do believe it should cliff themselves. The sad thing is you say "most" of the men you know are more complicated than the example I gave. I don't know a single guy where that is all he thinks about. That is why I said it. It is a joke. Laugh.

They do come with a manual. It's called two-way conversation. You ask a question, then (this is the tricky part) you listen for the response.

Is it just me, or should there be a manual that comes with guys?? I mean, you know, to know what they are thinking whenever they say the stuff that comes out of their mouth? Guys almost always act so clueless it drives me insane, but I still love guys... What do you think? Has being in love driven me over the edge or what?:( Being a girl is so hard

The irony is exquisie here, it truly is....

Man is the easiest thing in the world to figure out, despite womens' attempts to overcomplicate what we say and think. We will not blame you for taking what we say at face value, unless it's some loser emo boy or something.

They do come with a manual. It's called two-way conversation. You ask a question, then (this is the tricky part) you listen for the response.
trickier part...if you don't get what he said, then don't assume he means something else. ask another question.

trickier part...if you don't get what he said, then don't assume he means something else. ask another question.
WAT???@e@ U MEEN IT WURKz THAT WYA??@ [/sarcasm]

it's always sexist. That doesn't mean it isn't funny. I think its just as funny when a girl makes sexist jokes about herself as when I do it to myself. Or when I make a sexist joke against women, and they shoot one right back.

actually, I think its kinda hot.
Yeah, I understand where you're coming from, but that personal situation is a bit different. I'm talking about the media and pop culture in general.


yes, humans generally are sexually driven at times, but guys are the gender which have a strong emphasis on this.

Women are equally sex-driven. Men are just more public about it.


So for example, when a girl asks her guy how he's feeling, and he says 'I'm ok'. It means he is ok. No need to psycho-analysis what 'I'm ok' means.

Depressed men usually say they're OK even though they're not. But I generally agree with you. Men tend to be more honest and don't sugar-coat their words.

*sigh* I will say this again. I too, am male. It is a joke. Laugh it off. Why get pissed, when instead, you can live your life, enjoy being a complex male, and then make a stupid comment like the one I made, and categorically prove it wrong just by making it?
I don't seriously get bothered by this stuff. I spend plenty of my life laughing. But don't forget that I also enjoy ranting!

The irony is exquisite here, it truly is....
It's no more ironic than when some male poster makes a thread complaining about some general female flaw. Chances are, men sare the problem. I really think that there are very few differences between the sexes (aside from the physical differences, obviously.)

Yeah, I understand where you're coming from, but that personal situation is a bit different. I'm talking about the media and pop culture in general.
I don't seriously get bothered by this stuff. I spend plenty of my life laughing. But don't forget that I also enjoy ranting!
yeah, well, pop culture and the media are shit. I've seen some shows recently that are picking up sexist jokes against women as much as they do against men. But I also try not to extend characters on TV to be reflections of an entire segment.

haha...you like ranting, I like arguing. We'll get along well, even when we are making the same point.

haha...you like ranting, I like arguing. We'll get along well, even when we are making the same point.
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Is it just me, or should there be a manual that comes with guys?? I mean, you know, to know what they are thinking whenever they say the stuff that comes out of their mouth? Guys almost always act so clueless it drives me insane, but I still love guys... What do you think? Has being in love driven me over the edge or what?:( Being a girl is so hard

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm assuming your a blonde teenage girl who text messages while driving in your SUV.

I prefer to remain mysterious. I like the women who are attracted to me so I see no reason to change now. And if a few end up in a mental asylum well really, they should have learned to accept mysterious and just moved on to allowing understanding to come in time. :)

Is it just me, or should there be a manual that comes with guys?? I mean, you know, to know what they are thinking whenever they say the stuff that comes out of their mouth? Guys almost always act so clueless it drives me insane, but I still love guys... What do you think? Has being in love driven me over the edge or what?:( Being a girl is so hardA manual for guys would likely be useless. It would read like those that come with any of your typical cheap electronic products, translated badly from English to Japanese to Chinese and then back to English. The resulting document is guaranteed to leave DVD players accross the country flashing 12:00 across the time display for the life of the product. Your typical piece of chinese made electronics is easier to figure out than your typical guy, so what makes you think a manual would be of any use?

I don't seriously get bothered by this stuff. I spend plenty of my life laughing. But don't forget that I also enjoy ranting!.

Well you certainly couldnt tell from the replies you've made in this thread. My advice is to unplug, get laid and stop being so self righteous in your replies. You act as if your opinion is the gospel. Just because you are a feminazi, doesnt mean that you are an expert on women. Or men for that matter.

I quite agree that men are often portrayed as simple physical creatures that are easily satisfied and edearingly thick. A strange phenomemnon.

If you see the average commercial on TV that plays on some sort of male-female relationship, the male ususally either ends up being scolded, thwarted, embarrased, or otherwise reduced, while the woman victoriously carries out the task. Sure, you can say that it's meant as a joke, or to sell things to insecure women, or whatever, but this strange reversal of roles does a disservice to women and men. Joking about gender stereotypes is one thing, but I think the cultural indoctrination that goes on outside of that is a bit deeper.

Men are definately just as emotionally complex as women are. If you've ever been in a serious relationship with a man, or if you are a man, you know this.