Why don't most people get Blazing Saddles?
Stone Bridges
25-02-2006, 09:21
This is Mel Brookes BEST FILM EVER! and yet, most PC people today just don't get the humor. They think that it's a racist show because they say the N word a few times. However, these same people are not looking at the big picture when it comes to this film. This film makes fun of EVERYONE! The white people are dumb ingorant rednecks, They poke fun at the Gays, the Irish, the Chinese/Asians, the mexicans, EVERYONE! I love this film and I have it on DVD. Heres an intresting side note. When producing this film Mel Brooke went over the script with Cleavon Little, to see if he found it funny.
Why don't people just realize the sophisticated humor in Blazing Saddles?
My favorite line in this movie:
Taggart: I hired you people to try to get a little track laid, not to jump aroundlike a bunch of Kansas City gays!
Cannot think of a name
25-02-2006, 09:27
What 'most people' are you talking about?
Stone Bridges
25-02-2006, 09:29
What 'most people' are you talking about?
The PC people, women, Leftist, basically anyone who just take the black jokes and blow it way out of proportion and forget the fact that this film makes fun of EVERYONE!
I would LOVE to see Hollywood come out with a movie like Blazing Saddles in today's world. This time we can include the arabs!
Boonytopia
25-02-2006, 09:29
Sophisticated? A five minute fart joke in the campfire scene? (Don't get me wrong, it makes me laugh.)
Cannot think of a name
25-02-2006, 09:31
The PC people, women, Leftist, basically anyone who just take the black jokes and blow it way out of proportion and forget the fact that this film makes fun of EVERYONE!
I submit to you that this 'most people' is a fiction that you have created. Please reference these 'most people' or admit that this is mere manufactured pretence.
Stone Bridges
25-02-2006, 09:31
Sophisticated? A five minute fart joke in the campfire scene? (Don't get me wrong, it makes me laugh.)
1st, it was like 2 minutes. and 2nd, comon if you ever been on a camping trip (I've been on several when I was in scout), and you have beenies and weenies, of course you're going to try to out-fart one another. It's what guys do.
I liked it. The same people that think Blazing Saddles is racist think Shallow Hal is a long fat joke movie.
Boonytopia
25-02-2006, 09:39
1st, it was like 2 minutes. and 2nd, comon if you ever been on a camping trip (I've been on several when I was in scout), and you have beenies and weenies, of course you're going to try to out-fart one another. It's what guys do.
Like I said, funny it is. Sophisticated it's not.
Saint Curie
25-02-2006, 09:44
I've worked in ostensibly "PC" environments, such as law firms, accounting departments, HR departments, and so on. And honestly, I as yet have not found somebody who didn't enjoy a well timed "Mongo only pawn in game of life" or "Baby, please...I am not from Havana".
Cannot think of a name
25-02-2006, 09:52
I've worked in ostensibly "PC" environments, such as law firms, accounting departments, HR departments, and so on. And honestly, I as yet have not found somebody who didn't enjoy a well timed "Mongo only pawn in game of life" or "Baby, please...I am not from Havana".
This is what I'm sayin'. I live in a left leaning town. You have to request meat special. The only people who go into chain stores are tourists. Our city council past a referendum against the war in Iraq before it began. Our mayor gave out pot on the steps of city hall to make a point.
And yet, Blazing Saddles is a popular favorite at the midnights, it can be quoted freely in public.
I think these 'most people' are in his head.
Stone Bridges
25-02-2006, 09:57
This is what I'm sayin'. I live in a left leaning town. You have to request meat special. The only people who go into chain stores are tourists. Our city council past a referendum against the war in Iraq before it began. Our mayor gave out pot on the steps of city hall to make a point.
And yet, Blazing Saddles is a popular favorite at the midnights, it can be quoted freely in public.
I think these 'most people' are in his head.
The people in my head take offense to you! How dare you call them a leftist commie bastards!
Chalkispida
25-02-2006, 10:03
I'll be representing the people in Stone Bridges head in the lawsuit against you for libel. We'll see you in court Cannot think of a name.
Clintville
25-02-2006, 10:04
I love that movie, it sucks you wont be able to do that anymore. Even South Park wont take a risk(Though they will with other races)!
Stone Bridges
25-02-2006, 10:06
You can't deny the fact that there are some people out there that do hate this film, and they hate it because they don't realize that this film makes fun of everyone. They just count how many N words there are and get all pissy.
Cannot think of a name
25-02-2006, 10:09
You can't deny the fact that there are some people out there that do hate this film, and they hate it because they don't realize that this film makes fun of everyone. They just count how many N words there are and get all pissy.
Who are they 'most of,' who are they at all? Where is the evidence of these people that would prompt such a thread? "I hate people who don't like things." It's vague-you created a 'most people' out of thin air to jump all over. What's the point?
Stone Bridges
25-02-2006, 10:13
Who are they 'most of,' who are they at all? Where is the evidence of these people that would prompt such a thread? "I hate people who don't like things." It's vague-you created a 'most people' out of thin air to jump all over. What's the point?
The point is that there are people out there that don't have a sense of humor and need to get some. Also, I just watched this movie 2 times in a row and I just changed my boxers. :p I am in a really good mood right now, despite the fact that I was sick all day with a headache, the throwing up, and the stomach cramps.
Cannot think of a name
25-02-2006, 10:16
The point is that there are people out there that don't have a sense of humor and need to get some. Also, I just watched this movie 2 times in a row and I just changed my boxers. :p I am in a really good mood right now, despite the fact that I was sick all day with a headache, the throwing up, and the stomach cramps.
Where are you running into these people? If you're in such a good mood, why aren't you doing an appreciation thread to the movie instead of pre-creating an opposition to it?
Stone Bridges
25-02-2006, 10:17
Where are you running into these people? If you're in such a good mood, why aren't you doing an appreciation thread to the movie instead of pre-creating an opposition to it?
I honestly have no clue, it probably would've been better to create an apperication thread. Hmmm, I wonder if it's too late to do so and let this one die.
Clintville
25-02-2006, 10:21
The movie is a bit short though. Young Frankienstein is also funny.
Cannot think of a name
25-02-2006, 10:26
The movie is a bit short though. Young Frankienstein is also funny.
"It's twoo, it's twoo!!"
Saint Jade
25-02-2006, 11:28
I get it! I saw it about 3 weeks ago at a friend's. I'm intent on buying a copy to A) use in English classes, and B) for my own sad, sorry pleasure.
I like things most people don't get.
Except Being John Malkovich. What is that movie?!?!
Why haven't you made a poll, to see whether or not the Generalites get it?
And remember that on the IMDB, it has a score of... (Excuse me while I whip this out)
7.7/10 (with 20,450 votes). That's not low.
All right, we'll give some land to the niggers and the chinks, but we DON'T WANT THE IRISH.
Randomlittleisland
25-02-2006, 15:25
The point is that there are people out there that don't have a sense of humor and need to get some. Also, I just watched this movie 2 times in a row and I just changed my boxers. :p I am in a really good mood right now, despite the fact that I was sick all day with a headache, the throwing up, and the stomach cramps.
Either produce at least one reference of a 'PC person' (:rolleyes:) denouncing Blazing Saddles or admit that you made them up.
Myrmidonisia
25-02-2006, 15:54
I'll step up and try to rescue you, Stoney. My daughter goes to college in Boston. She has watched the movie with roommates. Some of those roommates didn't like the movie because it was 'crass and vulgar', her words, not theirs.
She, however, will watch it anytime I put it on. And we both die laughing. I'm glad she has avoided the uber-sophistication that I see from some people that come out of that college.
Randomlittleisland
25-02-2006, 15:58
I'll step up and try to rescue you, Stoney. My daughter goes to college in Boston. She has watched the movie with roommates. Some of those roommates didn't like the movie because it was 'crass and vulgar', her words, not theirs.
She, however, will watch it anytime I put it on. And we both die laughing. I'm glad she has avoided the uber-sophistication that I see from some people that come out of that college.
But they still don't reject it on Pc grounds. Funny that, the complete lack of evidence might make cynical people think that he just made up all of the people who view it as racist...
Drunk commies deleted
25-02-2006, 16:05
I liked blazing saddles so much I had one of my more technically talented friends turn "Scuze me while I whip this out" into a ringtone for my cell phone.
The Nazz
25-02-2006, 16:11
But they still don't reject it on Pc grounds. Funny that, the complete lack of evidence might make cynical people think that he just made up all of the people who view it as racist...
Well, last time I watched the commentary on the dvd, I heard Mel Brooks saying that he caught a lot of crap when the film was first released in theaters, even for having Count Basie on screen playing Cleavon Little into Red Rock--somehow that was racist to someone. There are some people who just don't get satire. I think it has little to do with PC however, because there are people all across the political spectrum who get twisted about depictions in films.
Remember when Dogma was released about 6 years ago? Kevin Smith, as a joke, got out there with the protesters and protested his own film. Monty Python got death threats over The Life of Brian. And there must be hundreds of other films I could name if I actually sat down and thought about it. What it really comes down to is that there are some humorless sumbitches out there, and they need to laughed and prodded with sticks as often as possible.
Otterlands
25-02-2006, 16:13
I love that movie, it sucks you wont be able to do that anymore. Even South Park wont take a risk(Though they will with other races)!
I may be misinterpreting what you are saying here, but are you saying South Park doesn't make fun of blacks? If so, I must disagree with you. What about the character "Token Black"?
Pure Metal
25-02-2006, 16:16
What 'most people' are you talking about?
quite. i think i've met one person in my life who hasn't found that film funny... ok, actually two... but neither of them had a sense of humour to speak of anyway.
the film is hilarious :p
maybe its better recieved here in the UK than in the states? :confused:
Markreich
25-02-2006, 16:18
This is Mel Brookes BEST FILM EVER! and yet, most PC people today just don't get the humor. They think that it's a racist show because they say the N word a few times. However, these same people are not looking at the big picture when it comes to this film. This film makes fun of EVERYONE! The white people are dumb ingorant rednecks, They poke fun at the Gays, the Irish, the Chinese/Asians, the mexicans, EVERYONE! I love this film and I have it on DVD. Heres an intresting side note. When producing this film Mel Brooke went over the script with Cleavon Little, to see if he found it funny.
Why don't people just realize the sophisticated humor in Blazing Saddles?
My favorite line in this movie:
Taggart: I hired you people to try to get a little track laid, not to jump aroundlike a bunch of Kansas City gays!
I prefer Young Frankenstein, but BS is #2. WAY better than Spaceballs!
Pure Metal
25-02-2006, 16:22
I prefer Young Frankenstein, but BS is #2. WAY better than Spaceballs!
wow my mel brooks favourites list runs in reverse to yours :p
Eutrusca
25-02-2006, 16:23
"Why don't most people get Blazing Saddles?"
I'd rather not have my saddle "blazing," if it's all the same to you. Plus, I probably couldn't afford one.
Oh ... you meant the movie! :p
Randomlittleisland
25-02-2006, 16:26
Well, last time I watched the commentary on the dvd, I heard Mel Brooks saying that he caught a lot of crap when the film was first released in theaters, even for having Count Basie on screen playing Cleavon Little into Red Rock--somehow that was racist to someone. There are some people who just don't get satire. I think it has little to do with PC however, because there are people all across the political spectrum who get twisted about depictions in films.
True. However, the implication in his post was that the trend of viewing the film as racist was new and driven by 'PC', this is just not true.
Markreich
25-02-2006, 16:28
wow my mel brooks favourites list runs in reverse to yours :p
Hmm... you must be British! :D
My Mel Brooks directed film order:
Young Frankenstein
Blazing Saddles
The Producers
History of the World (part 1)
Robin Hood: Men in Tights
Silent Movie (really cool, but not THAT great IMHO)
Spaceballs
...I've never seen "Life Stinks" or "The Twleve Chairs".
The Nazz
25-02-2006, 16:33
Hmm... you must be British! :D
My Mel Brooks directed film order:
Young Frankenstein
Blazing Saddles
The Producers
History of the World (part 1)
Robin Hood: Men in Tights
Silent Movie (really cool, but not THAT great IMHO)
Spaceballs
...I've never seen "Life Stinks" or "The Twleve Chairs".
My list:
Blazing Saddles
The Producers
Young Frankenstein
Spaceballs
High Anxiety
History of the World
Silent Movie
Robin Hood: Men in Tights
On any given day, numbers 3-6 are interchangeable. Men in Tights was tired, though--it was Spaceballs, but not as good.
Ravenshrike
25-02-2006, 16:43
The original producers was better.
Pure Metal
25-02-2006, 16:45
Hmm... you must be British! :D
My Mel Brooks directed film order:
Young Frankenstein
Blazing Saddles
The Producers
History of the World (part 1)
Robin Hood: Men in Tights
Silent Movie (really cool, but not THAT great IMHO)
Spaceballs
...I've never seen "Life Stinks" or "The Twleve Chairs".
Spaceballs
Blazing Saddles
History Of The World (part 1)
The Producers
Life Stinks
Robin Hood: Men in Tights (tight tights :eek: :p )
Young Franekstein
the others i haven't seen...
Randomlittleisland
25-02-2006, 16:51
From the films I've seen I'd vote:
Blazing Saddles
Men in Tights
The Producers
Young Frankenstein
Spaceballs
I've never seen History Of The World (part 1), is it worth watching?
Markreich
25-02-2006, 16:59
From the films I've seen I'd vote:
Blazing Saddles
Men in Tights
The Producers
Young Frankenstein
Spaceballs
I've never seen History Of The World (part 1), is it worth watching?
If you're in a silly mood, yes. It makes a good double feature after "The Life of Brian", for example. :)
Iraqnipuss
25-02-2006, 17:07
My favorite line in this movie:
Taggart: I hired you people to try to get a little track laid, not to jump aroundlike a bunch of Kansas City gays!
I think you'll find it's "Kansas City faggots", and i can't believe i'm the first to point this out... for shame, FOR SHAME!
Holonophon
25-02-2006, 17:10
I was raised on blazing Saddles. And my mom's a bleeding heart liberal of the highest order. But I saw that movie in third grade. My brother and I wore that tape down the nothing watching it every night.
The only friend I know who doesn't get it is my friend wo's sense of humor is basically... really low. I mean, she doesn't get a joke more complicated than the obvious ones in Spongebob. And even then... which is absurdly sad for a college student.
But yes! Everyone likes Blazing Saddles. and if they don't? I deny their existence.
GreaterPacificNations
25-02-2006, 17:14
Why don't people just realize the sophisticated humor in Blazing Saddles?
Mel Brookes is not 'sophisticated'. I'm not saying he isn't funny (I don't find him funny, but I do recognise the value of his kind of humour to others), just not sophisticated.
Bordering on slapstick at times.
Intangelon
25-02-2006, 17:27
Brooks' humor is far from sophisticated. It's very clever in places, but mostly it's broad-brush satire, and very good satire at that.
There's a lot of folks around who just don't get satire at all. These people are perfectly content to take everything at face value and will be the first ones to gladly sign up to become pod people once The Matrix takes over. Brooks, in my opinion, hasn't made an all-around hilarious film since History of the World, Part One -- and even that one has it's lengthy weak spots.
The inability of those you know to laugh at something you think is a riot doesn't make them stupid or humorless. We're all tuned to different vibrations, and that includes the ones that tickle our funny bones. Try worrying about why they don't understand, say, freedom of speech or other things far more important than whether they laugh at Gene Wilder and Cleavon Little.
Just a thought.
Blazing Saddles was one of the most boring movies I have ever seen. It's just a baseless movie with a pathetic plot, intersticed with racist jokes that are not funny at all.
The Nazz
25-02-2006, 17:59
The original producers was better.
You know, I'd completely forgotten that there was a film remake. The original was a brilliant piece of filmmaking, and underappreciated in my view.
Tikallia
25-02-2006, 21:16
I love Blazing Saddles, and I've never met anyone who doesn't love it as well. I think a very small, very loud, and very annoying minority don't get the humor and don't realize that the racism in the movie is meant as a comment on the absurdity of such views. They complain, and ruin it for the rest of us.
And now, for a more obscure quote: "Think of your secretary...."
I've never met anyone who doesn't love it as well.
Do you like it just because it makes fun of minorities? If you saw a movie that said "blacks suck, Latinos suck, Western Europeans suck, Ughurs suck, Arabs suck, Kazahks sucks, oompa loompas suck, etc.," would you think it's funny? I have no problem against the un-PCness, but at least make it funny, not some third-rate humor that will sell because it makes fun of minorities and people will say "oooh, not PC, that was an awesome movie!"
IMO, Young Frankenstein (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072431/) is Brooks's best film.
This is Mel Brookes BEST FILM EVER! and yet, most PC people today just don't get the humor. They think that it's a racist show because they say the N word a few times. However, these same people are not looking at the big picture when it comes to this film. This film makes fun of EVERYONE! The white people are dumb ingorant rednecks, They poke fun at the Gays, the Irish, the Chinese/Asians, the mexicans, EVERYONE! I love this film and I have it on DVD. Heres an intresting side note. When producing this film Mel Brooke went over the script with Cleavon Little, to see if he found it funny.
Why don't people just realize the sophisticated humor in Blazing Saddles?
My favorite line in this movie:
Taggart: I hired you people to try to get a little track laid, not to jump aroundlike a bunch of Kansas City gays!
Simple, because mostPC types don't HAVE a sense of humor. It's definitional.
Of course, sadly, even Mel has said his best films of the past could't get backing in today's climate of oversensitive isiocy. :(
Tikallia
25-02-2006, 21:28
Do you like it just because it makes fun of minorities?
You've misread what I said. It's not racist for the sake of being racist, and that isn't where the humor of Blazing Saddles lies. Mel Brooks was trying to say that racism is pointless and stupid, and the way he showed this was by spoofing the common stereotypes and racist views that people tend to have.
You've misread what I said. It's not racist for the sake of being racist, and that isn't where the humor of Blazing Saddles lies. Mel Brooks was trying to say that racism is pointless and stupid, and the way he showed this was by spoofing the common stereotypes and racist views that people tend to have.
You said that a very small, loud minority does not like the movie because of the racism, without understanding that it is satire. I was saying that there are other minorities who don't like the movie because it is a failed attempt at satire.
Tikallia
25-02-2006, 21:41
You said that a very small, loud minority does not like the movie because of the racism, without understanding that it is satire. I was saying that there are other minorities who don't like the movie because it is a failed attempt at satire.
The minority I was referring to was that small group of ultra-PC individuals who are offended by almost everything. The sort of people who were bothered by Dogma, or complain about South Park. Most people either have a thick skin about these sort of things and/or can see the underlying message behind such racy humor, and don't make a big deal about it.
Jonezania
25-02-2006, 21:42
You said that a very small, loud minority does not like the movie because of the racism, without understanding that it is satire. I was saying that there are other minorities who don't like the movie because it is a failed attempt at satire.
I'm saying I don't like it because I don't see what's funny about being referred to in the third person as niggers.
Randomlittleisland
25-02-2006, 21:54
Blazing Saddles was one of the most boring movies I have ever seen. It's just a baseless movie with a pathetic plot, intersticed with racist jokes that are not funny at all.
:(
Frangland
25-02-2006, 21:57
yes, a wonderful movie.
I'm tired, so tired.
:(
Don't worry, I find very few movies funny (Airplane is one of the only ones I like). :)
Markreich
25-02-2006, 22:37
Do you like it just because it makes fun of minorities? If you saw a movie that said "blacks suck, Latinos suck, Western Europeans suck, Ughurs suck, Arabs suck, Kazahks sucks, oompa loompas suck, etc.," would you think it's funny? I have no problem against the un-PCness, but at least make it funny, not some third-rate humor that will sell because it makes fun of minorities and people will say "oooh, not PC, that was an awesome movie!"
When the movie was made (1972) there was no such thing as political correctness.
This is Mel Brookes BEST FILM EVER! and yet, most PC people today just don't get the humor. They think that it's a racist show because they say the N word a few times. However, these same people are not looking at the big picture when it comes to this film. This film makes fun of EVERYONE! The white people are dumb ingorant rednecks, They poke fun at the Gays, the Irish, the Chinese/Asians, the mexicans, EVERYONE! I love this film and I have it on DVD. Heres an intresting side note. When producing this film Mel Brooke went over the script with Cleavon Little, to see if he found it funny.
Why don't people just realize the sophisticated humor in Blazing Saddles?
My favorite line in this movie:
Taggart: I hired you people to try to get a little track laid, not to jump aroundlike a bunch of Kansas City gays!
This was the same thing that had me so puzzled when the South Park movie came out. "This movies is racist," people cried. It completly baffled me, because while there was racism in it, the jokes were at the expense of the racists. You can't depict racists without showing some racism. Was Mississippi burning racist? How about Malcolm X? Was it a movie promoting the murder of prominent black men?
Seriously. People are just stupid.
Temporaryzagat
26-02-2006, 02:22
As someone who could be appropriately labeled as left leaning, PC and feminist, I would like to register my approval of the very funny 'Blazing Saddles'. I'd also like to know when 'uptight' went out of the common vocabulary and got replaced by 'PC', 'leftist', and 'feminist' and why it is that 'lefist' also has replaced 'irreverent' despite the contrariness of irrevence and uptightness.:confused:
And while we are here, is that gum you are chewing in the forum? :eek:
Did you bring enough for everyone?
No?!:mad:
Well in that case - screw you, I'm going home;) .
Iraqnipuss
26-02-2006, 02:53
And now, for a more obscure quote: "Think of your secretary...."
Hehe, i think of that quote everytime i put my key in the front door (actual scenario, not innuendo :p )
[NS]Liasia
26-02-2006, 03:02
While I 'get' the humour in Blazing Saddles, the first 10 minuites just arent funny.
'We don't need no stinkin' badges!' lol
Dark Shadowy Nexus
26-02-2006, 03:06
You can't deny the fact that there are some people out there that do hate this film, and they hate it because they don't realize that this film makes fun of everyone. They just count how many N words there are and get all pissy.
Can Fathers say pissy?
Stone Bridges
26-02-2006, 06:24
Can Fathers say pissy?
We are humans.
Clintville
26-02-2006, 10:35
I may be misinterpreting what you are saying here, but are you saying South Park doesn't make fun of blacks? If so, I must disagree with you. What about the character "Token Black"?
No, of course not. Im saying they wouldnt go as far. Well, actually they could, but they'll probably wont.
Rabbitude
26-02-2006, 10:55
I liked Spaceballs <hides>
Saint Curie
26-02-2006, 11:43
Nobody ever brings up "Life Stinks".
Oh, wait, that's right, it wasn't very good...
Anybody remember Brooks' cameos on "Mad About You"? best thing on that show...
Rabbitude
26-02-2006, 11:52
My mind is hazy but wasn't he on Sliders??
Lovely Boys
26-02-2006, 11:53
Taggart: I got it! We'll work up a Number Six!
Lamarr: I'm afraid I'm not familiar with that one.
Taggart: Well, that's where we go a-ridin' inta town, a-whompin' an' a-whompin' every living thing that moves within an inch of its life – 'cept the womenfolks, o' course.
Lamarr: You spare the women?
Taggart: Naw, we rape the shit outta them at the Number Six Dance later on!
Rabbitude
26-02-2006, 11:58
Selected filmography
Get Smart (TV) (1965) (co-creater, writer)
The Producers (1968) (writer, director; Academy Award, best original screenplay)
The Twelve Chairs (1970) (writer, director, actor)
Young Frankenstein (1974) (co-writer, director, actor)
Blazing Saddles (1974) (writer, director, actor)
Silent Movie (1976) (writer, director, actor)
High Anxiety (1978) (writer, director, actor)
History of the World, Part I (1981) (writer, director, actor)
To Be or Not to Be (1983) (actor)
Spaceballs (1987) (writer, director, actor)
Life Stinks (1991) (writer, director, actor)
Robin Hood: Men in Tights (1993) (writer, director, actor)
Dracula: Dead and Loving It (1995) (writer, director, actor)
Robots (2005) (voice)
The Producers (2005) (writer, producer)
Curb Your Enthusiasm: Season 4 (actor)
Jakers! The Adventures of Piggley Winks (2003-present) (voice of Wiley the Sheep)
BackwoodsSquatches
26-02-2006, 12:11
Dracula: Dead and Loving It (1995) (writer, director, actor)
Best
Vampire
Movie
Evar.
Markreich
26-02-2006, 16:18
Dracula: Dead and Loving It (1995) (writer, director, actor)
Best
Vampire
Movie
Evar.
No way. From Dusk Until Dawn rules its ass.
Why? Because Vampires are silly and slightly less scary than Daleks, which are in turn slightly less scary than Ewoks. ;)