NationStates Jolt Archive


dictatorship or democracy?

The Emperialist
25-02-2006, 02:01
what is your form of government?
Thriceaddict
25-02-2006, 02:05
Why do you make two exactly the same threads? And do you mean NS or reallife countries.
Boonytopia
25-02-2006, 06:46
I was experimenting & have changed it from a Scandinavian Paradise, to a Father Knows Best dictatorship.
Europa Maxima
25-02-2006, 06:48
Ultraminimal Monarchy with a thriving free market. That is what I aim for anyway.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
25-02-2006, 06:52
Assuming that you are refering to NS, I am trying to run a sprawling Beurocratic Monarchy, which combines all the health benefits of modern civil service with the great taste of an oppressive feudal establishment.
Unfortunately, I tend to just muddle about in the land of lame "Father Knows Best" style dictatorships. I blame the overly optimistic view that NS takes of government intervention.
Kievan-Prussia
25-02-2006, 06:56
I'd rather talk about real life.

A really, really good dictatorship beats a normal democracy, which in turn beats most dictatorships.
Neu Leonstein
25-02-2006, 07:00
I float between a Left-Leaning College State and Capitalizt.

Either way, it's pretty democratic, and seems to allow people reasonable freedom in all three criteria. I'm happy with it.
Pythogria
25-02-2006, 08:05
Explination of the Pythogrian govornment (WARNING. LONG.):

Article 1a: Branches of Government: The Supreme General
The Supreme General is in complete control of the Empire of Pythogria, as well as its surrounding waters. He has complete power, unless he is overridden by a 50% vote by the People. Only under these circumstances may he be evicted:

A. He is disliked by the People, and gets a 50% or more vote to leave.
B. He is unfit for the job due to any condition. In this case, until he can return or a new Supreme General is appointed, the Superior General becomes Sub-Supreme General, with the same powers.
C. He becomes too old to fulfill the job. In this case, that is 90 years old.

To become Supreme General, candidates run for office and a democratic vote ensues. The candidate with the most votes becomes Supreme General. Anyone 30 years or older may become Supreme General, but must have not committed any criminal offenses, and must have been a Pythogrian citizen for 5 years or more. He/she may be of any nationality, or race.

Before each decision, the Supreme General must consult CASI.


Article 1b: Branches of Government: Superior General

The Superior General shall have the same powers and restrictions as the Supreme General with these exceptions:

A. He/she may be overridden at any time by a 50% vote by the People, as well as by the Supreme General him/herself.
B. He/she can not access the nation’s superweapons, or anything else top secret.
C. He/she may not remove members from the Platinum Council.

Article 1c: Branches of Government: The Platinum Council

The Platinum Council is a group of individuals, which shall have rule of the nation in a specific area, such as the Pythogrian Military Forces. They shall be put in to office by a democratic vote, the candidate with the most votes going to office. The Supreme General adds and evicts members from the council, and gives them powers over a certain area of government. For example, the Energy General controls the production and usage of energy. All Platinum Council Members can be overridden by the Superior and Supreme Generals, and may be evicted by the Supreme General.

Article 1d: Branches of Government: CASI

The only advisor to the Supreme General shall be a completely unbiased and unopinionated A.I., known as CASI-- (Computerized Advisory with Sentient Intelligence.) CASI does not have opinions; it merely advises what would fix the current problems in Pythogria. If the economy is the problem, CASI will do things good for the economy. Example: If crime is at a high, and better police are proposed by a citizen, CASI may sacrifice some of the nation’s money for better police. If it’s proposed while the economy is bad, with no crime problems, it will probably reject the proposal. CASI also provides tactical advisory for the PMF (Pythogrian Military Forces).

[/constitution]
Cocytium
25-02-2006, 13:51
I'd rather talk about real life.

A really, really good dictatorship beats a normal democracy, which in turn beats most dictatorships.

"A monarchy is a ship that sails well, but can suddenly sink if it comes upon a rock; a democracy is a raft which never sinks, but then your feet are always in the water."
Jello Biafra
25-02-2006, 13:57
A really, really good dictatorship beats a normal democracy, which in turn beats most dictatorships.I disagree. The worst democracy is better than the best dictatorship, because having a choice is infinitely better than not having one.
Swilatia
25-02-2006, 14:00
Swilatia is democracy. Also, I say that both dictatorships and democracies are a good system if there is no corruption. both are very bad if there is corruption.
Merde54321
25-02-2006, 14:06
my ns country merde54321
is a new york times democracy wiht excellent civil rights a very strong economy and excellent political freedoms
hah
beat that
Darvainia
25-02-2006, 14:09
Right now were a corporate bordello, somehow civil rights went down ): but we were and hope to again be an anarchy. Not the anarchy in it's punk form (no laws, people starting fires and publicly urinating) but anarachy in it's ideal form. The people make their own decisions, rule their own lives, have full rights over their own property, and for the most part provide for themselves. It's funny that anarchy really is just True democracy in pure and almost incorruptible form.
Jello Biafra
25-02-2006, 14:27
Does this help?...

The Free and Equal Land of Jello Biafra is a massive, devout nation, remarkable for its absence of drug laws. Its compassionate, intelligent population of 6.627 billion enjoy extensive civil rights and enjoy a level of social equality free from the usual accompanying government corruption.

It is difficult to tell where the omnipresent, socially-minded government stops and the rest of society begins, but it juggles the competing demands of Education, the Environment, and Social Welfare. The average income tax rate is 100%. The private sector is almost wholly made up of enterprising fourteen-year-old boys selling lemonade on the sidewalk, although the government is looking at stamping this out.

There have been sightings of people walking around dressed in nothing but leopard-skin g-strings for 'religious reasons', cheese has become the new icon of political dissent, the mob and the police have recently had numerous clashes in the back alleys of Jello Biafra's cities due to the government's steadfast anti-casino stance, and all weapon research has been banned. Crime is totally unknown, thanks to the all-pervasive police force and progressive social policies in education and welfare. Jello Biafra's national animal is the George Bush, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests, and its currency is the Dead Kennedy.
Unified Home
25-02-2006, 14:35
I put 'other types of government' as I want a Secure State and Economy but the Liberals challenge this and now my Situtation is like this:

UN Category: Father Knows Best State
Civil Rights:Below Average
Economy:Strong
Political Freedoms:Few
Unified Home
25-02-2006, 14:38
"A monarchy is a ship that sails well, but can suddenly sink if it comes upon a rock; a democracy is a raft which never sinks, but then your feet are always in the water."

That's a good Description!
Swilatia
25-02-2006, 14:49
my ns country merde54321
is a new york times democracy wiht excellent civil rights a very strong economy and excellent political freedoms
hah
beat that
I did. Swilatia has a Frightening Economy and World Benchmark Political Liberties.
Formal Dances
25-02-2006, 15:32
Mine is a democracy.
Disturnn
25-02-2006, 16:37
For real-life, I would say Dictatorship

but a good one. Dictatorships are much more efficient, and as long as the Leader is a good one, than everything is good. Look at excellent leaders such as Napolean, Augustus, Julius Caesar, etc

Dictatorships can be bad if the leader has too much control. I believe a free-market and socially conservative dictatorship would be good. No control over the economy, and moderate control socially. It would get rid of the stupid time process in Democracies.

In NS, I would say Corporate Police State, my very own brutal dictatorship with the corporations ruling the nation.
Jello Biafra
25-02-2006, 23:26
"A monarchy is a ship that sails well, but can suddenly sink if it comes upon a rock; a democracy is a raft which never sinks, but then your feet are always in the water."
So then that makes democracy better, right? Some people don't wash their feet enough.
The Slavic Union
25-02-2006, 23:33
There should be many more options. But I guess that's what "other" is for.

I am a very devout Christian. But I believe strongly in a Secular Republic. Free and fair elections and trade is good. I am strongly for social rights and an open market. As you can probably tell, I'm very Libertarian.
Rangerville
26-02-2006, 01:44
Democratic