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Colombia man 'jailed over grope'
A bicycle courier in Colombia has been given a four-year jail sentence for grabbing a woman pedestrian's bottom, a TV station has reported.
A judge's ruling - criticised by some as being too harsh - ruled the courier had committed an abusive sexual act.

Diana Marcela Diaz told RCN that the courier had cycled off after groping her, but had been caught by passers-by.

When he was arrested, she was given the option of slapping him, letting him go, or filing a complaint.

She had chosen to set a precedent that would stop sexist behaviour, she said.

RCN described the sentence as historic, but some lawyers condemned it as excessive.

A female member of the national ombudsman's office said the courier had only acted out of lust.

"He didn't use violence or commit a sexual act," she was quoted as saying.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4746760.stm


Too damn harsh indeed, im not saying the man is a saint, but seriously.
Silly columbians.......

Well lesson learned from this: Dont go grab assing in Columbia

Too damn harsh indeed, im not saying the man is a saint, but seriously.
Silly columbians.......

Well lesson learned from this: Dont go grab assing in Columbia
I've got some better advice. Don't go to Colombia. Unless of course you like the idea of ending up a FARC hostage in the jungle.

She was given the option of slapping him? thats just funny!

I say eye for an eye.

She should grab his bottom. No more.

I say eye for an eye.

She should grab his bottom. No more.
In general, that would probably punish the woman more than the man.

I admit it's too harsh, but it IS assault. Why do people seem to have a double standard about this? If it's a person of the opposite gender, people act like it's no big deal.

I don't care what his reason was -- he'd no right to touch another person without their consent. And if anyone is going to trot out the ol' guys can't help themselves defense -- don't bother, we all know that's not true.

Me, given those choices? I'd have slapped him so hard his great-grandkids would have felt it.

In general, that would probably punish the woman more than the man.
How do you know that? Are you sure she doesn't have strong hands? Or pinchers? Maybe she's got huge pincher's for hands! Who would hurt more then? /Homer-ish rant

I admit it's too harsh, but it IS assault?

I don't care what his reason was -- he'd no right to touch another person without their consent. And if anyone is going to trot out the ol' guys can't help themselves defense -- don't bother, we all know that's not true.

Me, given those choices? I'd have slapped him so hard his great-grandkids would have felt it.
She was probably asking for it. I'll bet she was wearing tight pants or something.

I admit it's too harsh, but it IS assault?

I don't care what his reason was -- he'd no right to touch another person without their consent. And if anyone is going to trot out the ol' guys can't help themselves defense -- don't bother, we all know that's not true.

Me, given those choices? I'd have slapped him so hard his great-grandkids would have felt it.


I'm not saying he shouldn't be punished, all I am saying is that 4 years is a long time in prison for just that, when the drunk, or medicated (one or the other) ferry driver on staten island got only like 13 months for killing 11 people in that ferry accident.

should assgrabbers get more time in prison?

but then again its columbia

She was probably asking for it. I'll bet she was wearing tight pants or something.

:p

She was probably asking for it. I'll bet she was wearing tight pants or something.
You know, there was a rapist over here who used that as a defence... "She had a short skirt and cleavage, she wanted it." kinda thing. His lawyer actually harassed the raped girl, calling her a tramp, and her own lawyer thought they should settle 'cause "the guy had a point".

I don't think I've ever seen such a huge media-rant in my life.

She was probably asking for it. I'll bet she was wearing tight pants or something.


LMAO! :D

I'm not saying he shouldn't be punished, all I am saying is that 4 years is a long time in prison for just that, when the drunk, or medicated (one or the other) ferry driver on staten island got only like 13 months for killing 11 people in that ferry accident.

should assgrabbers get more time in prison?

but then again its columbia

Can't compare apples and oranges -- two different law systems.
Again, I didn't say I didn't think it overly harsh -- I said it was assault.

(And I think there should have been a lot more penalties for the pilots of the SI Ferry incident... incidentally more for the captain than the pilot -- as he was in charge and not present to supervise as he was supposed to by law.)

You know, there was a rapist over here who used that as a defence... "She had a short skirt and cleavage, she wanted it." kinda thing. His lawyer actually harassed the raped girl, calling her a tramp, and her own lawyer thought they should settle 'cause "the guy had a point".

I don't think I've ever seen such a huge media-rant in my life.


Thats because most lawyers have no soul.

Can't compare apples and oranges -- two different law systems.
Again, I didn't say I didn't think it overly harsh -- I said it was assault.


true.


(And I think there should have been a lot more penalties for the pilots of the SI Ferry incident... incidentally more for the captain than the pilot -- as he was in charge and not present to supervise as he was supposed to by law.)

you gotta admit about that ferry incident that they got off too easy though.

Thats because most lawyers have no soul.
When I pass the bar, I'll start the Lawyers With Soul And We Mean Heart Not Just Funk Association. LWSAWMHNJFA. We'll jive talk, listen to James Brown, and have dance-off-fund raisers for orphans.

true.



you gotta admit about that ferry incident that they got off too easy though.


18 months for the pilot, one year in jail for the former ferry director -- now the one year in jail for *him* I can't see... he wasn't on, nor was he supposed to be on, the ferry.

I admit it's too harsh, but it IS assault. Why do people seem to have a double standard about this? If it's a person of the opposite gender, people act like it's no big deal.

I don't care what his reason was -- he'd no right to touch another person without their consent. And if anyone is going to trot out the ol' guys can't help themselves defense -- don't bother, we all know that's not true.

Me, given those choices? I'd have slapped him so hard his great-grandkids would have felt it.

What she said.

When I pass the bar, I'll start the Lawyers With Soul And We Mean Heart Not Just Funk Association. LWSAWMHNJFA. We'll jive talk, listen to James Brown, and have dance-off-fund raisers for orphans.

LOL! I'll make sure my BF signs up. Only there needs to be alcohol. No one who's sober deserves to have to see him dance. :D

She was probably asking for it. I'll bet she was wearing tight pants or something.
You shouldn't blame the victim. Even when the "victim" only got her ass grabed.

Anyway, I think women have a right, nay an obligation to wear really tight pants.

You shouldn't blame the victim. Even when the "victim" only got her ass grabed.

Anyway, I think women have a right, nay an obligation to wear really tight pants.
I agree that women should be forced to wear tight and/or revealing clothing, but we need to recognize the fact that when they do they're consenting to be groped.

I agree that women should be forced to wear tight and/or revealing clothing, but we need to recognize the fact that when they do they're consenting to be groped.
So, you think women should be forced into consenting to be groped.

So, you think women should be forced into consenting to be groped.
Yes I do. Just as long as it's consentual I think it should be mandatory.

So, you think women should be forced into consenting to be groped.


sounds like a sound policy decision to me

Yes I do. Just as long as it's consentual I think it should be mandatory.
You friggin' rock my world:)

Good!
I'm sick of men who think it's ok to grab a strange woman's ass without her permission.

I never said anything about force. I could see how that could be inferred from saying that they have an obligation to wear tight or otherwise revealing clothing. There is an obligation, I just don't think it helps if we force them to fulfill that obligation.

Good!
I'm sick of men who think it's ok to grab a strange woman's ass without her permission.
Yeah, they should stick to the normal women and leave the strange ones alone:D

4 years is mad long... You could actually hurt people and get alot less time then that. Sounds more than unfair, maybe a 30-day sentence would be ok.

4 years is mad long... You could actually hurt people and get alot less time then that. Sounds more than unfair, maybe a 30-day sentence would be ok.
This is a different country...keep that in mind. Perhaps in Colombia, spitting on the street gets you 18 months. (it doesn't...but you didn't know that until I told you:))

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I've got some better advice. Don't go to Colombia. Unless of course you like the idea of ending up a FARC hostage in the jungle.
ELN is the one that takes hostages generally.

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roflmao!!
That's what the colombian man should have done, 'OK, I grabbed your ass. Your turn'