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Bikers Drown Out Anti-Gay Pastor At Soldiers' Funerals
Phelps Says U.S. Troops Die Because U.S. Harbors Homosexuals

FORT CAMPBELL, Ky. -- One member of the Patriot Guard Riders said the last thing a grieving military family needs to hear at a funeral is an anti-gay demonstration.

The Patriot Guard Riders are a group of motorcyclists who ride to soldiers' funerals and counter protests led by the Rev. Fred Phelps.

Phelps has a small church in Kansas that's made up mostly of his extended family. He and his followers believe American deaths in Iraq are God's punishment for a country they say harbors homosexuals.

The bikers shield the families of dead soldiers from the protesters, and try to drown out their jeers with patriotic chants and a sea of red, white and blue flags.

At least 14 states are considering laws aimed at the funeral protesters.

Bikers Drown Out Anti-Gay Pastor At Soldiers' Funerals
Phelps Says U.S. Troops Die Because U.S. Harbors Homosexuals.

http://www.wgal.com/news/7294008/detail.html

I really don't even know where to begin. First we got an a Pastor who thinks its his duty to harass the relatives of deceased soldiers. Then a Biker Gang decides to step in and make sure the family doesn't have to deal with the psycho.

If you follow the link you'll see some pictures of the protesters. Holding signs saying things like "Thank God for IEDs" and "USA Fag Nation...
Just a tad bit despicable.

So Biker Gangs, typically associated with crime, have become heroes.

Religious people, typically associated with morals, have become villains.

What an interesting twist of events.

I dislike both patriots and the church so I loose both ways.

Good thing I aint an American then :D

Are there freaking kids holding up those signs in the picture the article shows or are my eyes just going on me?

That's great! ^_^ it's nice to see someone/someone's group doing something to stop these fundie nuts in their tracks.

Fred Phelps is commonly renowned as one of "America's Most Batshit Insane." Does he have no respect for the deceased and their families? Does he have no human decency? Apparently he lacks the most basic concepts of goodness that everyone else in the country shares.

Are there freaking kids holding up those signs in the picture the article shows or are my eyes just going on me?

:eek: It is! Kids with "God hates fags" signs.....that is HORRIBLE. How do they think that is "christian like"? Ugh.....

Are there freaking kids holding up those signs in the picture the article shows or are my eyes just going on me?
I think those are the pastors kids...I think it said his denomination is really only his extended family.

Already posted. But I still support the bikers. Fred Phelp's deserves to be shot. I don't think we should shoot him, but I wouldn't be sad if he was.

Biker gangs fucking rock. Bikers themselves rock.

I think those are the pastors kids...I think it said his denomination is really only his extended family.

no, it said mostly.

It is safe to say that nowhere else in the Western world would you have such an absurd situation.

Isn't it swell how they do this when Phelps pickets the funerals of soldiers, but when he pickets the funerals of gay people, no friendly biker gangs in sight...

I think those are the pastors kids...I think it said his denomination is really only his extended family.

I think I just died a bit inside from that picture now with that fact being brought to light.

but God loves fags and that's why God blesses America. She told me so herself.

but God loves fags and that's why God blesses America. She told me so herself.

Why would a God that loves fags bless such a homophobic society?

I really don't even know where to begin. First we got an a Pastor who thinks its his duty to harass the relatives of deceased soldiers. Then a Biker Gang decides to step in and make sure the family doesn't have to deal with the psycho.

If you follow the link you'll see some pictures of the protesters. Holding signs saying things like "Thank God for IEDs" and "USA Fag Nation...
Just a tad bit despicable.
Note to the crazy religious winger:

When biker gangs are defending people from you, it's time to re-evaluate your approach.

Why would a God that loves fags bless such a homophobic society?


because homophobes are really just gay individuals repressing their true sexual preference

Why would a God that loves fags bless such a homophobic society?
Easy: what would piss a homophobe off more than knowing his blessings are coming from a fag-loving God? :)

but God loves fags and that's why God blesses America. She told me so herself.

Well, actually, there is nothing in the Bible of hating homosexuals. Yes it does say it is morally wrong in the Old testament and they should be put to the sword, but in the new testament, they say that it is even a bigger sin to hate and hurt homosexuals! I am surprised that this dipsh!t of a "pastor" cant even see that for himself!!!

Easy: what would piss a homophobe off more than knowing his blessings are coming from a fag-loving God? :)


and that

Well, actually, there is nothing in the Bible of hating homosexuals. Yes it does say it is morally wrong in the Old testament and they should be put to the sword, but in the new testament, they say that it is even a bigger sin to hate and hurt homosexuals! I am surprised that this dipsh!t of a "pastor" cant even see that for himself!!!


Why listen to the Bible when I get my info directly from Gahd?

The truth about Phelps is that he hates everyone. He thanks God for 9/11 and goes after the most right wing religious leaders as being gay friendly.. he has the city of topeka kansas constantly trying to legislate against his campaign of hate.

To me the most effective answer to his kind of hate was when he and his "church" tried to interupt the funeral of Matthew Sheppard. Sheppard's friends dreassed in huge angel costumes, complete with wings and waited at the funeral for Phelps and co to arrive. When they started thier hate filled protest, the giant angels simply turned their backs to the Phelps noise machine and linked arms so that they were effectively out of sight and Matthew's mom did not have to see them on the day she buried her son.

I have been trying to figure of Phelp's motivation for a while now and I still don't get it. The Pat Robinsons of this world and their motivations, I do understand and like it or lump it, it's a free country and they have a right to speak their minds. At least they follow some form of logic, Phelps on the other hand does not. His church, Westbro Baptist Church was expelled from the National Baptist Churchs because of his message of hate.

He also seems to thrive on upsetting and infuriating as many people as possible, so in a way responding to him in any other way than ignoring him just feeds the monster.

If you don't believe me or want to find out more about this 'delightful" little hate fest in the name of God, visit his website.. or even better just be greatful you don't live near him.

Wow... that's just... one of the strangest things I've ever seen.

While I'm normally not fond of Biker gangs, in this instance, they are much preferable to the fundies.

Oh, and Dsboy, I'd recommend not posting links to Phelps' websites on NS, it can get you in trouble. Just so you know.

Easy: what would piss a homophobe off more than knowing his blessings are coming from a fag-loving God? :)

Why would a fag loving God let her actions be directed by homophobes in such a way?

because homophobes are really just gay individuals repressing their true sexual preference

In a few cases, but most probably are straight.

Isn't it swell how they do this when Phelps pickets the funerals of soldiers, but when he pickets the funerals of gay people, no friendly biker gangs in sight...
Well considering that it's a group about supporting veterans...

Why would a fag loving God let her actions be directed by homophobes in such a way?

Because either she's a ragging alcoholic?

I'm sure Satan has a nice warm room reserved for Mr Phelps.

Well considering that it's a group about supporting veterans...

Exactly. They aren't doing this because they think people should be able to bury their loved ones in peace. They're doing this because they think soldiers should.

Exactly. They aren't doing this because they think people should be able to bury their loved ones in peace. They're doing this because they think soldiers should.


Still..any bad press this Phelps guy can get is all the better.

Still..any bad press this Phelps guy can get is all the better.

No, it isn't. Attention whores love press, period. So, they do end up winning, either way.

Bikers have a very surprising compassionate side. My father and grandfather are big bikers and frequently they go on toy runs for orphans, bike rides to raise money for widowed wives of policemen/firemen.

Basically if there's a cause that needs a ride, bikers will pick it up. :)

No, it isn't. Attention whores love press, period. So, they do end up winning, either way.

So it would be better if the press painted a positive image of this prick?

Well, actually, there is nothing in the Bible of hating homosexuals. Yes it does say it is morally wrong in the Old testament and they should be put to the sword, but in the new testament, they say that it is even a bigger sin to hate and hurt homosexuals! I am surprised that this dipsh!t of a "pastor" cant even see that for himself!!!
Well, here's some fun facts about this pastor, just to help everybody understand where he is coming from:

Phelps first gained national attention in the 1950s, when he was featured in an article in Time Magazine for his street-ministry efforts to outlaw kissing on campuses in the Pasadena city limits.

Even the Southern Baptists found Phelps too reactionary. Parishioners of Eastside Baptist Church (in Topeka, Kansas) were shocked when Phelps urged husbands to beat their wives into submission. A quote from Phelps: "A good left hook makes for a right fine wife. Brethren, they can lock us up, but we'll still do what the Bible tells us to do. Either our wives are going to obey, or we're going to beat them!"

On one occasion (during his short tenure at the Eastside Baptist Church), Phelp's infant son Mark began to squirm during a sermon. Phelps responded by punching the child in the face several times, in full view of the congregation.

Phelps became addicted to amphetamines and barbiturates, as well as alcohol, sometime around 1962. One of Phelp's sons reports that his earliest memory is a drunk, stoned Daddy Phelps shooting a dog for defecating on their lawn.

For the better part of a decade, Phelps was all but incapacitated by drug abuse, binge eating, and a wildly out of control temper. He was unable to bring in money, and refused to allow his wife to work, so the family was supported by a money-making scam called "The Children's Crusade." The Phelps children were made to sell candy door to door, and those who didn't meet the quotas were beaten with a mattock handle, a farming tool possessing twice the density of a baseball bat. In 1993, it was discovered that Phelps had obtained the candy by defrauding the manufacturer.

Phelps has a rich history of brutalizing and raping his wife, as well as violently abusing his children. Several of his children suffer from post-traumatic stress syndrome due to the torture their father subjected them to.

Unbelievable as it may sound, Phelps has been a practicing attourney. By 1977, Phelps had more complaints filed against him for misconduct than any attorney in the history of the state of Kansas. He was disbarred by the State of Kansas in 1979. Years later, when the attorney who led the disbarment hearings died, Phelps snuck into the wake and signed the guestbook, "Vengeance is mine."

Phelps was also disbarred from practicing federal law in the 1980s, following more gross misconduct, perjury, and ethical violations.

Phelps has been arrested numerous times, including arrests for witness intimidation, threats, attempted extortion, assault, battery, contempt of court, and numerous instances of disturbing the peace.

Why would a fag loving God let her actions be directed by homophobes in such a way?

Because she has an odd, quirky sense of humor and doing so amuses her.

Why would a fag loving God let her actions be directed by homophobes in such a way?
"Directed by homophobes"? I think it would be more like, "why wouldn't a fag-loving God enjoy getting a chuckle from bugging homophobes?" ;)

But please, keep in mind that I believe the concept of God is as silly as it is unimaginative. So I'm not about to argue this concept with any degree of seriousness.

As often happens, this debate's answer can be summarized in one phrase:
http://prodtn.cafepress.com/1/29937491_F_tn.jpg

So it would be better if the press painted a positive image of this prick?

It would be better if the press didn't give him all this attention. This "clan" of his is minute - his followers are counted in the double digits, and yet they get all these meters of lines in press reports. Ask yourself if they care about being portrayed as loonies, or if they only care about the next article that features them, say it whatever it does.

/christianjoke

Hmm.. Should we call down fire from heaven upon him?

/christianjokeoff

Because she has an odd, quirky sense of humor and doing so amuses her.

Giving "God" human attributes such as humour is blasphemy.

/christianjoke

Hmm.. Should we call down fire from heaven upon him?

/christianjokeoff

Yes please and SOON.. ;)

Oh, and Dsboy, I'd recommend not posting links to Phelps' websites on NS, it can get you in trouble. Just so you know.

Point taken and it's been removed .. just gives him more publicity anyway.:p

Giving "God" human attributes such as humour is blasphemy.

Says who? Depends on the religion.

Last year they announced they were going to buy another domain name, but someone from Something Awful bought it before they could and made it into an anti-Phelps site.

Says who? Depends on the religion.

Not really, as this whole "blessing nations" stuff tends to be done by the Abrahamic one.

Not really, as this whole "blessing nations" stuff tends to be done by the Abrahamic one.

Well, if the fundies can be wrong about the gender of god, and her attitude towards homosexuals (thinking that god "hates fags" when she actually loves them), then surely they can be wrong about what constitutes blasphemy.

Course, if it turns out that they are in fact correct (a highly unpleasant and unlikely scenario), then it won't really matter, since I've done so many things they think are blasphemy that attributing a sense of humor to a deity is not going to make much difference.

Last year they announced they were going to buy another domain name, but someone from Something Awful bought it before they could and made it into an anti-Phelps site.

Is it a funny anti-Phelps site?

Well, here's some fun facts about this pastor, just to help everybody understand where he is coming from:

Phelps first gained national attention in the 1950s, when he was featured in an article in Time Magazine for his street-ministry efforts to outlaw kissing on campuses in the Pasadena city limits.

Even the Southern Baptists found Phelps too reactionary. Parishioners of Eastside Baptist Church (in Topeka, Kansas) were shocked when Phelps urged husbands to beat their wives into submission. A quote from Phelps: "A good left hook makes for a right fine wife. Brethren, they can lock us up, but we'll still do what the Bible tells us to do. Either our wives are going to obey, or we're going to beat them!"

On one occasion (during his short tenure at the Eastside Baptist Church), Phelp's infant son Mark began to squirm during a sermon. Phelps responded by punching the child in the face several times, in full view of the congregation.

Phelps became addicted to amphetamines and barbiturates, as well as alcohol, sometime around 1962. One of Phelp's sons reports that his earliest memory is a drunk, stoned Daddy Phelps shooting a dog for defecating on their lawn.

For the better part of a decade, Phelps was all but incapacitated by drug abuse, binge eating, and a wildly out of control temper. He was unable to bring in money, and refused to allow his wife to work, so the family was supported by a money-making scam called "The Children's Crusade." The Phelps children were made to sell candy door to door, and those who didn't meet the quotas were beaten with a mattock handle, a farming tool possessing twice the density of a baseball bat. In 1993, it was discovered that Phelps had obtained the candy by defrauding the manufacturer.

Phelps has a rich history of brutalizing and raping his wife, as well as violently abusing his children. Several of his children suffer from post-traumatic stress syndrome due to the torture their father subjected them to.

Unbelievable as it may sound, Phelps has been a practicing attourney. By 1977, Phelps had more complaints filed against him for misconduct than any attorney in the history of the state of Kansas. He was disbarred by the State of Kansas in 1979. Years later, when the attorney who led the disbarment hearings died, Phelps snuck into the wake and signed the guestbook, "Vengeance is mine."

Phelps was also disbarred from practicing federal law in the 1980s, following more gross misconduct, perjury, and ethical violations.

Phelps has been arrested numerous times, including arrests for witness intimidation, threats, attempted extortion, assault, battery, contempt of court, and numerous instances of disturbing the peace.


what a coward piece of shit!

i cant believe no one has put a hydroshok in his twisted little brain.

i am all for making him a martyr....just like i would be for hitler/stalin being made martyrs!

and people say violence/killing is wrong....

i am against violence myself..mostly,but in some cases it could be considered a mercy killing,for them and for society.