NationStates Jolt Archive

Yes, it's true. Washington state is going to ban beastiality. Want to know why? Because of a rather incompetent engineer who couldn't figure out that a horse cock is too large to fit in a human rectum. (damn near killed him. Oh, it did kill him.)

If Pinyan hadn't died in that sensational manner, it is safe to say that fucking animals would continue to be one of the many pleasures that a citizen of this state is free to enjoy—just as long as he or she doesn't harm the animal in the process. For it was only after Pinyan died, when law enforcement looked for a way to punish his associates, that the legality of bestiality in Washington State became an issue and a punch line. Absent Pinyan's staggering sacrifice, the fact that there was no law prohibiting the coupling of man and beast would have never surfaced.
http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Content?oid=30811

I can't believe that nobody thought to enact such a law until now.

I say- "Live by the horse cock, Die by the horse cock".

This is nature's way of weeding out the unhealthy and unfit. Why make a law that could keep that bastard alive to vote and drive and sit next to you at work?
Is that what we really want?

Why is the practise of sexual intercourse so popular and common in America?

In England, it's very, very rare and looked down upon greatly.

It's a criminal offence nationwide in England, 3 years I think.

Do you mean sexual intercourse in general or just with animals. Because if you mean all sexual intercourse then I'd be curious where little English kids come from.

And so begins the Furry Exodus.

With animals.

I hear lots of news stories about this coming from America.

such a law will just give rise to back alley interspecies love shacks.

such a law will just give rise to back alley interspecies love shacks.
And barnyard-animal street prostitution. There will be neighborhoods who's street corners are lined with sheep, goats, pigs, and horses in slutty clothes.

Thats a helluva way to go.....urg.

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This is just another example of how the government is taking away our liberties, one by one. Now, not only are the outlaws the only ones allowed to have guns, they are the only ones allowed to have sex with horses.. ;)

Remember the slogan.. If guns are outlawed, then only outlaws will have guns.

Why is the practise of sexual intercourse so popular and common in America?

In England, it's very, very rare and looked down upon greatly.

It's a criminal offence nationwide in England, 3 years I think.


It's been illegal for some 150 years, but generally unenforced until a few years ago when they had a big crack down on it.

... when they had a big crack down on it.

ROTFLMAO!!! Not crackdown?

Keep the government out of our bedrooms (and stables)!

Where is the ACLU on this?

ROTFLMAO!!! Not crackdown?
The other way sounds vaguely dirtier.

It's been illegal for some 150 years, but generally unenforced until a few years ago when they had a big crack down on it.

I'd imagine that those were some of the most awkward stakeouts ever.

I think that inter-species sex is how AIDS got started. Some sick f*ck decided that humping chimps was fun. Well, thanks to viral-mutations(viruses tend to mutate. This is why there are anual flu-shots) and one of the sickest sex acts imaginable, there's an AIDS epidemic.

If Chimps can give people AIDS, imagine what dogs, horses, and, heaven forbid, foxies would give us.

That sucks. Somone who tried to get a horse to fuck them deserves everything they get, but that's no reason to ruin hot inter-species loving for the rest of us. If someone wants their dog to fuck them, then damn it, they should every right to let their dog fuck them.


I think that inter-species sex is how AIDS got started. Some sick f*ck decided that humping chimps was fun. Well, thanks to viral-mutations(viruses tend to mutate. This is why there are anual flu-shots) and one of the sickest sex acts imaginable, there's an AIDS epidemic.


Erm, no. The more likely theory is that it came from eating lower primates.

In the medieval ages, more people got their heads chopped off because they had had sex with animals than those who practised witchcraft.

LOL at the guy in the article. Is he up for a Darwin award or what?

I don't see the point to banning this. It sounds like just another excuse for fundmentalists to shove their religion down everyone's throats.

With animals.

I hear lots of news stories about this coming from America.

Well, the US does have a fairly high population, around 300 million people. It's not too surprising that there are a few perverts among them.

I can't believe that nobody thought to enact such a law until now.
For what it's worth Pinyan worked in the Space Defense division of Boeing.

Until he killed himself in one of the most fabulous ways someone's managed to kil themselves in a while, it didn't seem that important to actually have a law. Since it so rarely happened. The last time I'm aware of it was at the University of Washington, where a frat got a bunch of sheep together for a hazing. The pledges that did have sex with the animals, of course, were not accepted.

In England, it's very, very rare and looked down upon greatly.

How do you know that? Most of it probably isn't reported.

Beastiality is actually surprisingly common, especially among the rural population.

I don't see the point to banning this. It sounds like just another excuse for fundmentalists to shove their religion down everyone's throats.and you have to wonder what they will ban next because it is immoral and/or dangerous: groupsex, sm sex, homo sex...

If Chimps can give people AIDS, imagine what dogs, horses, and, heaven forbid, foxies would give us.
A really good time?

And moving right along, this is terrible. What if they start crack down on the Barnyard Fuckers franchise? After the cinematic masterpeice that was Barnyard Fuckers XI I've been waiting on the edge of my seat for XII to come out.

And still moving, still moving, keep going along and don't stop until we get to the next person . . .

I don't see the point to banning this. It sounds like just another excuse for fundmentalists to shove their religion down everyone's throats.

*looks at Free Farmers name and sniggers*:p

*looks at Free Farmers name and sniggers*:p

Yes, I see how my support of this (with my name as it is) can be seen in that way. I personally don't have sex with animals, but I don't think the right to do so should be banned as long as the animals aren't harmed.

Yes, I see how my support of this (with my name as it is) can be seen in that way. I personally don't have sex with animals, but I don't think the right to do so should be banned as long as the animals aren't harmed.

My logic for it is as follows:

1.) Murder is worse than rape.
2.) Killling animals for food is legal.
3.) Logically this is worse than bestiality.
4.) Therefore either bestiality should be legal or eating meat should be illegal.

In other words if you're not a vegetarian you don't have the right to criticise bestiality. Simple.

My logic for it is as follows:

1.) Murder is worse than rape.
2.) Killling animals for food is legal.
3.) Logically this is worse than bestiality.
4.) Therefore either bestiality should be legal or eating meat should be illegal.

In other words if you're not a vegetarian you don't have the right to criticise bestiality. Simple.

Yeah, eating animals does seem a little more barbaric than having sex with them.

My logic for it is as follows:

1.) Murder is worse than rape.
2.) Killling animals for food is legal.
3.) Logically this is worse than bestiality.
4.) Therefore either bestiality should be legal or eating meat should be illegal.

In other words if you're not a vegetarian you don't have the right to criticise bestiality. Simple.
I think rape is worse than murder.

I think rape is worse than murder.then you should be against the breeding of animals too.

And so begins the Furry Exodus.


HAHAHA!!! Those damned furverts! :D

HAHAHA!!! Those damned furverts! :D
They will have to hold ConiFur (http://www.conifur.org/) somewhere besides Seattle now... :rolleyes:

I don't see the point to banning this. It sounds like just another excuse for fundmentalists to shove their religion down everyone's throats.
Exactly; it'd be a victory for religion...

Woa...Poor guy...still...I know we have our rights but....dear god a horse???

My ex was an aboslute cow, does that mean I broke the law?

My ex was an aboslute cow, does that mean I broke the law?
The "No ex post facto laws" part of the Bill of Rights protects you, don't worry ;)

Remember the slogan.. If guns are outlawed, then only outlaws will have guns.
So... If you outlaw bestiality, then only outlaws will fuck horses?

then you should be against the breeding of animals too.
I don't really care what happens to animals lower than humans on the IQ scale.

I don't really care what happens to animals lower than humans on the IQ scale.

Perhaps you should figure out how to administer an IQ test to an animal, as it does not speak any human languages. Until then you can not make the assumption that they have less IQ than you. Also, IQ tests are flawed for animals, as they take into account what humans teach each other, not necessarily what animals teach each other. Thus, I think you will have to not make an assumption on any animal's IQ until you can effectively adminster a test to animals.

On the rape/murder, I would have to say murder is most definitely worse, as ending someone's existance seems quite a bit worse than sexually abusing them.

I think rape is worse than murder.

Well legal precedent supports me: sentences for murder are longer than sentences for rape.

Breaking: Washington State Police has just put out a photo with two suspects, who are wanted in connection with an alleged violation of the antibestialitylaw:
http://fun.sdinet.de/pics/animals/coondog.jpg

Why is the practise of sexual intercourse so popular and common in America?

In England, it's very, very rare and looked down upon greatly.

It's a criminal offence nationwide in England, 3 years I think.

American animals are much better looking than your ugly English animals.

Well legal precedent supports me: sentences for murder are longer than sentences for rape.
I guess its hard to say which is worse. You cannot ask a murdered person the impact its had upon their lives.

American animals are much better looking than your ugly English animals.
Scotland: Where Men wear Skirts and Sheep are Nervous...

(Checks closet and finds Prince Charlie Kit...)

Never mind. :p

I guess its hard to say which is worse. You cannot ask a murdered person the impact its had upon their lives.

I can tell you the effect it had without asking anyone.
The effect on your life when you get murdered: It ends forever

Seems like that might be just a tid bit worse [except for people who want to die I guess] than being "scared for life" because you got raped.

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funniest theing I've seen in months...

My ex was an aboslute cow, does that mean I broke the law?

LOL....

With animals.

I hear lots of news stories about this coming from America.
I don't. You must be reading very selectively. :p

I don't really care what happens to animals lower than humans on the IQ scale.
Well then, dolphins are protected. Possibly whales as well.

Well then, dolphins are protected. Possibly whales as well.
Monkeys are smarter than dolphins.

I don't. You must be reading very selectively. :p

Just reading NationStates would give that impression.

This is just another example of how the government is taking away our liberties, one by one. Now, not only are the outlaws the only ones allowed to have guns, they are the only ones allowed to have sex with horses.. ;)

Remember the slogan.. If guns are outlawed, then only outlaws will have guns.
So the new slogan should be:
If bestiality is outlawed, then only outlaws will bugger beasts.

I don't see the point to banning this. It sounds like just another excuse for fundmentalists to shove their religion down everyone's throats.
Well, having religion shoved down your throat is probably a tad better than a horse's dick.

Well, having religion shoved down your throat is probably a tad better than a horse's dick.
Hes just a little grumpy.
Evil fundamentalists 35239582
Non fundamentalists 34067067
But whos keeping score?

Monkeys are smarter than dolphins.
Not true. Tests have not been sufficiently well designed to properly evaluate the intelligence levels of seagoing mammals. The lack of hands makes things a bit difficult. For that matter, the current tests assume a human-biased intelligence, which is why a monkey would score better. A dolphin might see no point in accomplishing an activity that has a monkey jumping up and down in joy.

Well, having religion shoved down your throat is probably a tad better than a horse's dick.

You get to choose when that horse shoves its dick down your throat, with this law it takes away your choice in the matter by making religion the ever present regulator. Which BTW is ridiculous because all religions are seriously screwed up.

Just reading NationStates would give that impression.
As he said, he must be readin selectively. For that matter, it might just be we are better at catching the people who do it.

I can't seriously beleive that normal people DON'T think its wrong to have sex with animals. After all, an animal CAN'T consent. it is an animal for goodness sake. If you can't see whats wrong with it, then imagine this scenario..you walk in on your parents, you mother is having sex with your family pet whilst your father aids her in this and they are filming it.

OK NOW DO YOU SEE HOW IT'S WRONG? does that help at all?

Seriously, it's not something that even crosses the mind of a normally functioning person surely?

ewwwwwwwww *making sicky noises*

Why is the practise of sexual intercourse so popular and common in America?

In England, it's very, very rare and looked down upon greatly.

It's a criminal offence nationwide in England, 3 years I think.

I think he means in general; the national motto of the English is "No sex please, I'm English." They reproduce by budding.

It's a criminal offence nationwide in England, 3 years I think.

Only since the new (ish, 1 or 2 years ago) sexual offences act which made bestiality and necrophilia specifically illegal for the first time. Interestingly it's still legal to have sex with dead animals - perverts!

I think he means in general; the national motto of the English is "No sex please, I'm English." They reproduce by budding.

We do? what is that stuff that I do that I THOUGHT was sex? pruning?

I think that inter-species sex is how AIDS got started. Some sick f*ck decided that humping chimps was fun. Well, thanks to viral-mutations(viruses tend to mutate. This is why there are anual flu-shots) and one of the sickest sex acts imaginable, there's an AIDS epidemic.

If Chimps can give people AIDS, imagine what dogs, horses, and, heaven forbid, foxies would give us.

Actually its *possible* it was some guy fooking a chimp, but its less likely (much less, given it would only have that instance to mutate) than a simple blood to blood transmission. In many parts of Africa they eat (and butcher) many primates, including chimps. One slip of the knife, and you can have blood to blood contact, this happens often, affording the virus many opportunities. A virus actually finds it easier to jump species (find a new host) the closer the old host and the new host are genetically. This is because the virus only has to change a little genetic material.

And barnyard-animal street prostitution. There will be neighborhoods who's street corners are lined with sheep, goats, pigs, and horses in slutty clothes.
Might be new for Washington state :rolleyes:
Yeah, you know what i'm talking about.

That must have totally rectum!!;)

We do? what is that stuff that I do that I THOUGHT was sex? pruning?

Sometimes English men rub their pistulas against English girls stamens, but no actual fertilization occurs, its a throwback to their common ancestry (and sexual reproduction) with other human beings.

Ok I'm carrying it too far.

To the English I may have mislead: Its not true, you don't have pistulas and stamens, nor do you bud. While rare, scientists have succesfully demonstrated that the English do infact have sex.

But only with the queen, who is the only member of their society who spawns new English people, as is obvious by her distended egg filled abdomen. The rest of the populace are drones, that keep the hive running. A hot fluid is produced by the queen to convey sensory messages (mostly olfactory and taste related) to the drones; it is called "tea". When the queen dies or abdicates, a new female is fed royal jelly (they call it marmalade), she matures and the entire hive sings "God save the Queen".

We do? what is that stuff that I do that I THOUGHT was sex? pruning?
First rule:
Never, NEVER ask a bunch of relatively anonymous weirdos on a forum to qualify to you THEIR fantasies of what they think you do in the nature of "sexual behavior".
;)
But the mental impression of pinking shears is a plus!

First rule:
Never, NEVER ask a bunch of relatively anonymous weirdos on a forum to qualify to you THEIR fantasies of what they think you do in the nature of "sexual behavior".
;)
But the mental impression of pinking shears is a plus!

*stares wide eyed*

I didnt think of it like that...

*hides*

Sometimes English men rub their pistulas against English girls stamens, but no actual fertilization occurs, its a throwback to their common ancestry (and sexual reproduction) with other human beings.

Ok I'm carrying it too far.

To the English I may have mislead: Its not true, you don't have pistulas and stamens, nor do you bud. While rare, scientists have succesfully demonstrated that the English do infact have sex.

But only with the queen, who is the only member of their society who spawns new English people, as is obvious by her distended egg filled abdomen. The rest of the populace are drones, that keep the hive running. A hot fluid is produced by the queen to convey sensory messages (mostly olfactory and taste related) to the drones; it is called "tea". When the queen dies or abdicates, a new female is fed royal jelly (they call it marmalade), she matures and the entire hive sings "God save the Queen".
Do you mean the Queen version?

EDIT:
""I'll find Fry's coffin, get his corpse, and keep it under my mattress to remind me that he's really dead. That'll prove I'm not insane!"-Leela

*stares wide eyed*

I didnt think of it like that...

*hides*
Well, i'll qualify that somewhat.

"....unless you WANT that kind of attention."
:)
There, all better. *nods*

Well, i'll qualify that somewhat.

"....unless you WANT that kind of attention."
:)
There, all better. *nods*

NOT BETTER...WORSE

*cries*

I can't seriously beleive that normal people DON'T think its wrong to have sex with animals. After all, an animal CAN'T consent. it is an animal for goodness sake.
Let's be clear. Kenneth Pinyan was F'd, to Death, in the A' by his Arabian Stallion. He was not F'ing the Stallion when he slipped or some accident happened. He was catching. And video taping the moment for posterity. Now maybe the horse didn't really want to go along with it. Maybe he was only doing it to teach Ken a really good lesson. We'll probably never know. Which can only be a good thing.

Let's be clear. Kenneth Pinyan was F'd, to Death, in the A' by his Arabian Stallion. He was not F'ing the Stallion when he slipped or some accident happened. He was catching. And video taping the moment for posterity. Now maybe the horse didn't really want to go along with it. Maybe he was only doing it to teach Ken a really good lesson. We'll probably never know. Which can only be a good thing.

I wasn't assuming that the man was the ummm one 'behind it all' I was just saying that animals can't consent, just because the stallion was stimulated and encouraged to sodomise this idiot, doesn't mean that it 'consented' in the actual sense of the word, it is a horse, not a human. Lots of people's pet dogs are prone to attempting to have sex with any passing leg, but the average normal sexually healthy person doesn't take it to be a come on and get down to it with them...

I can't seriously beleive that normal people DON'T think its wrong to have sex with animals. After all, an animal CAN'T consent. it is an animal for goodness sake. If you can't see whats wrong with it, then imagine this scenario..you walk in on your parents, you mother is having sex with your family pet whilst your father aids her in this and they are filming it.

OK NOW DO YOU SEE HOW IT'S WRONG? does that help at all?

Seriously, it's not something that even crosses the mind of a normally functioning person surely?

ewwwwwwwww *making sicky noises*

I think it's probably more a case of your own squeamishness and/or sheltered life up 'til now.

The more worldly among us tend not to even bat an eyelid at people's weird sexual tastes and practices. When we do encounter something that causes a mild case of raised eyebrows, we usually don't indulge in gratuitous hyerbole to illustrate our surprise. I think there's a good case for the idea that the more intelligent a creature is, the more unusual and diverse their sexual interest becomes. Look at chimps. Or dolphins. Dolphins are quite intelligent, and some of the randiest creatures around. They don't seem to care overmuch where they get their gratification. If humans are a step above them in intelligence... well...

To each their own, I say.

So no furries marching in the streets declaring Jihad on the Washington state government yet?

So no furries marching in the streets declaring Jihad on the Washington state government yet?
Well, it is Wasington... No doubt there will be some anarcho-furs squiffing on the mansion lawn in Olympia to protest the outlawing of ConiFur... :eek:

After all, an animal CAN'T consent.again: you are completely ignoring the fact, that animals are 'raped' by humans every day on an industrial scale.
cows, pigs and horses are impregnated routinely by artificial insemination without giving consent.
where two animals are mated naturally the female is given no opportunity to run away or fight back by putting the animals in small rooms, where the female cannot run away or tying the female to a pole, even tying together a mares legs so it cannot kick the stallion and making it completely defenseless.
there are cattle breeding racks, that keep the animal immobilized, while it is being tupped.
artificial pheromones are used on hogs and other animals are injected with hormones for increased fertility.
under human supervision breeding also isnt limited to intraspecies sex, we do force interspeciesbreeding to get hybrids like mules.

if you seriously believe we need the animals to consent to sex, then you also need to demand laws, that would crush any meaningfull modern agriculture with dairy and meat industry.

if you seriously believe we need the animals to consent to sex, then you also need to demand laws, that would crush any meaningfull modern agriculture with dairy and meat industry.

So are YOU then saying that because of the very valid points you have raised that it is OK for humans to have sex with animals? Humans do some disgusting things to each other on a daily, worldwide basis, but it doesn't make it alright to have sex with young children and use it as a justification.
I feel that it would be better if animals had more protection, were able to reproduce naturally etc. but just because farmers use AI, it does not justify grubby little men sneaking into farmyards and having sex with animals.

So are YOU then saying that because of the very valid points you have raised that it is OK for humans to have sex with animals? Humans do some disgusting things to each other on a daily, worldwide basis, but it doesn't make it alright to have sex with young children and use it as a justification.small children are not animals, we would not slaughter small children and eat them either.I feel that it would be better if animals had more protection, were able to reproduce naturally etc. but just because farmers use AI, it does not justify grubby little men sneaking into farmyards and having sex with animals.why not with the same fervour that you demand a law against the farmer putting his penis into a cow do you demand a law against the same farmer having the stock bull put its penis into the same cow?

I can't argue with you over this clearly, you apparently (to me at least) seem to think having sex with animals is ok and is akin to managed husbandry. I am NOT implying small children are animals, I am saying that evil acts do not justify other evil acts, thats all. I was assuming that the majority of people do not think that sex with animals is a normal sexual desire, but maybe i am wrong, you seem to think it is more my problem that I don't think bestiality is normal.

I find it hard to imagine, but are you saying that in your opinion, animal rape by humans, for one persons totally sexual gratifiation is the same as a non sexual insemination by a farmer, or a same species sexual act?

Well then, dolphins are protected. Possibly whales as well.
Nah, we need to kill dolphins. They eat all the tasty tuna. We need to kill whales for "research".

I was assuming that the majority of people do not think that sex with animals is a normal sexual desire, but maybe i am wrong, you seem to think it is more my problem that I don't think bestiality is normal.sure it isnt 'normal' and most people think that way, then again sexual practices like sm or groupsex etc. cannot be considred 'normal' either, but the argument is that we cannot make laws against this abnormal behaviour, because of protection of privacy, you must not legislate what is happening in the bedroom.I find it hard to imagine, but are you saying that in your opinion, animal rape by humans, for one persons totally sexual gratifiation is the same as a non sexual insemination by a farmer, or a same species sexual act?the insemination or human induced sexual act ultimately is for the mere convenience of humans too. whether you are breeding pets to serve as companions, horses for sports and recreation or impregnate cows so you will have milk for delicious dairy products and tender veal at the same time. the farmer breeds the animal only to make human life more gratifying (that is mostly culinarily more gratifying, because only living on beans, rice, soy and fruits, though possible, is not tasty).

NOT BETTER...WORSE

*cries*
Ah, you're right .... just accounted for the "thread-topic" aspect of your response. *nods*