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COPENHAGEN (Reuters) - Danish police have charged four people selling T-shirts bearing the logos of Colombian and Palestinian guerrillas with supporting banned terrorist groups.
The four are connected to the Danish clothing company Fighters and Lovers, which sells T-shirts with logos of the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PLFP).

Both groups have been classified as terrorists by the European Union and the United States.

"We have been investigating the case for about a month and have now charged four people for supporting, directly or indirectly, organizations on the EU's terror list," police spokesman Ove Dahl said Tuesday.

Police said they had seized about 24,000 Danish crowns ($3,833), computers and T-shirts from the company, which sells T-shirts over the Internet to customers all over the world. They have also closed down its Web site (www.fightersandlovers.com) and expect to charge another three people.

Colombia protested to Denmark last month about the T-shirts.

Fighters and Lovers said it donated 5 euros to a FARC radio station or a PLFP poster campaign for each T-shirt sold, adding that they were still available in some Copenhagen shops.

"Fighters and Lovers are not supporting terrorists but freedom fighters who are carrying out legitimate resistance against regimes which repress and torture citizens," it said in a statement.

The Colombian rebel group FARC, which has about 17,000 members, has been fighting for socialist revolution since 1964 and thousands of people are killed in the conflict every year.

The group funds its war with illegal drugs and kidnapping.

The Marxist-Leninist PFLP was founded by George Habash in 1967 to promote pan-Arabism. It has long opposed the mainstream PLO leadership as being too soft in its dealings with Israel.
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Oh dear!!!Is one mans terrorist really another mans freedom fighter???

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Amusing. They'll support the freedom of people to criticise radical Islam but not to support it.

PLFP..SPLITTERS..<life of brian>
I know it does seem a bit two faced but I suppose they did give money to a 'terrorist organisation'

Amusing. They'll support the freedom of people to criticise radical Islam but not to support it.

That is because there is a paragraph in the danish constitution right after the one about freedom of speech which states that the formation of organizations based on violence are illegal.

Considering they are supporting people who are using violence, their organization is illegal. They are directly supporting violence and are therefore in violation of the danish constitution.

This has nothing to do with freedom of speech by the way.

That is because there is a paragraph in the danish constitution right after the one about freedom of speech which states that the formation of organizations based on violence are illegal.

Considering they are supporting people who are using violence, their organization is illegal. They are directly supporting violence and are therefore in violation of the danish constitution.

This has nothing to do with freedom of speech by the way.
I don't disagree with it. I just think it's amusing. I have a weird sense of humour like that.

I know it has nothing to do with freedom of speach.But I was kinda wondering what seperates a freedom fighter from a terrorist??Is prespective?

I don't disagree with it. I just think it's amusing. I have a weird sense of humour like that.

I thought a few of the cartoons were amusing (not all). I only saw them because they made a fuss of it, that was the most amusing part. Imagine... no fuss and I'd never have seen them.

I know it has nothing to do with freedom of speach.But I was kinda wondering what seperates a freedom fighter from a terrorist??Is prespective?

Doesn't matter. They're not allowed to directly support either, since both use violence.

I thought a few of the cartoons were amusing (not all). I only saw them because they made a fuss of it, that was the most amusing part. Imagine... no fuss and I'd never have seen them.
They have started printing them on tee shirts now..Brave man who would wear one ...

They have started printing them on tee shirts now..Brave man who would wear one ...

Most of them don't even depict muhammed. I guess it depends on which one you wear.

you probably wouldn't live long if you did. do you think William Wallace (braveheart) was a terrorist?:)

you probably wouldn't live long if you did. do you think braveheart was a terrorist?:)

no :D but it still doesn't matter. It'd be illegal to support him regardless.

hehehe fair enough. I was more refering to the freedom fighter/terrorist debate though. it's an interesting point.

hehehe fair enough. I was more refering to the freedom fighter/terrorist debate though. it's an interesting point.

I'm trying to point out that it doesn't matter under Danish law.

of course, I may or may not be ignored, and I don't really care :p

I gave up counting the number of RAF T-Shirts and Baader Meinhof Emblems I have seen people wear. This is no different (particularly because Palestinians and Germans have been working so well together when it comes to Terror).

Terrorism it's just a combat method. Every violence creates terror on it's victims. So it's terrorism also bombing a country (I mean civil people) or "Selective killings". Shure it's illegal in Denmark but the question for me it's why we keep trading and supporting the israeli goverment?

Why we support US army when their planes cross our aereal space towards Irak or any other country? It make us guilty also.

The only violence that cannot be considered terrorist is the one that doesn't exist no more: two armies, alone on the battlefield, ready to kill each other.

Terrorism it's just a combat method. Every violence creates terror on it's victims. So it's terrorism also bombing a country (I mean civil people) or "Selective killings". Shure it's illegal in Denmark but the question for me it's why we keep trading and supporting the israeli goverment?

Why we support US army when their planes cross our aereal space towards Irak or any other country? It make us guilty also.

The only violence that cannot be considered terrorist is the one that doesn't exist no more: two armies, alone on the battlefield, ready to kill each other.

True.

I guess we're supporting the US army because a defence minister declared war. He got red paint on him though. I think Denmark is more guilty of providing direct military assistance than letting US planes fly over our aerial space.

I do wonder why the Army isn't considered illegal under that rule in the constitution. It is an organization that promotes the use of violence and uses it to achieve its means.

hehehe fair enough. I was more refering to the freedom fighter/terrorist debate though. it's an interesting point.

Difference between terrorists and freedom fighters (as far as i can see): freedom fighters win and get to write the official version. Terrorists accomplish nothing and are discredited by the official version.

PLFP..SPLITTERS..<life of brian>
I know it does seem a bit two faced but I suppose they did give money to a 'terrorist organisation'


Greetings

That is what they were under arrested for, and charged with, sending money to a known terrorist organisation.