Adverbs
Colin World
23-02-2006, 04:20
Okay, maybe I'm wrong in my presumptions (which could be very likely, as I'm wrong in most everything), but I'm not very tolerant of those that would say, "the car went quicker," rather than saying, "the car went more quickly (or in cases, quicklier)." Am I insane, or is the adverb supposed to change to an adjective in the comparative form?
UberPenguinLandReturns
23-02-2006, 04:22
"That car was quicker than the other cars." would be correct, I think. Never heard "quicklier" before.
Colin World
23-02-2006, 04:24
There is no "quicklier", it's just that people use quicker in it's place.
I propose: "the car went vrooom".
Colin World
23-02-2006, 04:42
That's not what is at debate
Peisandros
23-02-2006, 04:45
"the car went more quickly" isn't very nice to say out loud. Sounds all wrong.
Okay, maybe I'm wrong in my presumptions (which could be very likely, as I'm wrong in most everything), but I'm not very tolerant of those that would say, "the car went quicker," rather than saying, "the car went more quickly (or in cases, quicklier)." Am I insane, or is the adverb supposed to change to an adjective in the comparative form?
I would just say faster. I've personally never heard anyone refer to that type of sentence in that fashion.
"The car went faster." is the only way I've ever heard it.
But that would irritate me.
Also switching there's and theirs, there and their, hear and here, read and read...wait......
:D
Pantygraigwen
23-02-2006, 04:47
I propose: "the car went vrooom".
i propose "the car culture caused the economic systems of the world to collapse in about thirty years time when mans insane dependence on fossil fuel combined with his hidebound reluctance to find a viable alternative led to financial meltdown"
Not as snappy, but just as accurate.
Colin World
23-02-2006, 04:47
"the car went more quickly" isn't very nice to say out loud. Sounds all wrong.
Why does it sound wrong? It's right.
Peisandros
23-02-2006, 04:51
I just don't like saying it. "The car went faster" will do the trick.
Zephorian Anarchy
23-02-2006, 04:52
My car went down the street/road/dirtpath faster.
Colin World
23-02-2006, 04:53
I just don't like saying it. "The car went faster" will do the trick.
I'm talking about people who use quicker as an adverb in the comparative sense, not asking what you'd say given the chance...
Peisandros
23-02-2006, 04:57
And I'm saying, "more quicker" doesn't sound right. That's all.
Hobbesianland
23-02-2006, 04:59
I think it sounds "wrong" because of "the car went". I can't think of any common sentences beginning with "A/the car went".
Colin World
23-02-2006, 05:00
And I'm saying, "more quicker" doesn't sound right. That's all.
But it isn't "more quicker", that's redundant.
Peisandros
23-02-2006, 05:02
More quickily/quicker.. For either of them, having more infront it makes it sound babyish.
Colin World
23-02-2006, 05:06
Why babyish? I'd think that in the comparative sense, using the correct term would be the correct and humans wouldn't get lazy and shallow.
Peisandros
23-02-2006, 05:15
Because I don't hear adults saying that, I hear children saying it. That's why it sounds babyish. Yes, as a society, we are very lazy. I don't see what this has to do with being shallow though?
Pantygraigwen
23-02-2006, 05:16
i now nominate this officially the most tedious thread ever.
Sorry.
Colin World
23-02-2006, 05:18
I wasn't intending it to be interesting to everyone, it's just a pet peeve, so you don't have to be pretentious.
Pantygraigwen
23-02-2006, 05:19
I wasn't intending it to be interesting to everyone, it's just a pet peeve, so you don't have to be pretentious.
i wasn't, i was being blunt and honest, thought you appreciated that sort of thing ;)
Colin World
23-02-2006, 05:22
True enough :) Why don't you respond to what I've written in that thread
Ryukyu-Doukaku
23-02-2006, 05:23
i propose "the car culture caused the economic systems of the world to collapse in about thirty years time when mans insane dependence on fossil fuel combined with his hidebound reluctance to find a viable alternative led to financial meltdown"
Not as snappy, but just as accurate.
I second that. also, it is the car went more quickly.
Pantygraigwen
23-02-2006, 05:23
True enough :) Why don't you respond to what I've written in that thread
Because i haven't slept for 40 hours, i have to get up for work in 3 hours, my mind is fuzzy and i can just about manage 1 liners.
Colin World
23-02-2006, 05:25
Because i haven't slept for 40 hours, i have to get up for work in 3 hours, my mind is fuzzy and i can just about manage 1 liners.
Yet you can manage to come up with a quip for this thread...
Pantygraigwen
23-02-2006, 05:31
Yet you can manage to come up with a quip for this thread...
it was a one liner. about the only thing i've ever been good at in any given situation. coherent thought takes me a bit longer.
New-Avalon
23-02-2006, 05:54
"more quicker" is simply incorrect
"went quicker " is poor
"went more quickly" is ideal
For the comparative I would personaly use "was faster"
(On the same note, "I would personaly use" is also incorrect, I use it here partialy because I feel it may add clarification at a glance to the more sleep deprived of us, but primaraly as an example of the flexability inherent in any living language. English is of course a living language, dispite the misgivings of purists such as myself.)
PasturePastry
23-02-2006, 06:22
I suppose it depends on whether one is a lexicographer or a grammarian as to which expression is more correct No, that's not an endorsement, since "correcter" doesn't even sound right. Lexicographers study words much like biologists study wildlife. Grammarians are more like shepherds, trying to make sure the sheep stay in a flock. Biologists tend to make more than shepherds, and they sound like they have more fun too.