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NationStates Association of Zoologists and Intellectuals

That's right! There are dozens of intelletcuals and zoologists, or not. Are you intelligent, witty, slightly into beastiality? Then don't be stupid, become a NAZI today!

I admit it, I laughed

I did not find it funny.

Bestiality is disgusting and by associating bestiality with the National Socialist/Pan-European ethnic nationalist movement, your making an insult to those individuals who uphold those noble ideologies.

Thats not funny at all...I was once mercilessly chased by a zoologist because I wanted to touch a duck....or maybe it was a 12 year old girl who wasn't chasing us at all I couldn't tell I was too stoned.:p

I did not find it funny.

Bestiality is disgusting and by associating bestiality with the National Socialist/Pan-European ethnic nationalist movement, your making an insult to those individuals who uphold those noble ideologies.
Why, I did nothing of the kind. :)

I did not find it funny.

Bestiality is disgusting and by associating bestiality with the National Socialist/Pan-European ethnic nationalist movement, your making an insult to those individuals who uphold those noble ideologies.

National-Socialism is a noble ideology? Please stop, you're cracking me up.

Bestiality is disgusting and by associating bestiality with the National Socialist/Pan-European ethnic nationalist movement, your making an insult to those individuals who uphold those noble ideologies.
Let's play a game, children.
Sarcastic or Serious?

A while ago, I'd have definitely gone with sarcastic, but lately the neo-nazis seem to be returning enmasse.

I did not find it funny.

Bestiality is disgusting and by associating bestiality with the National Socialist/Pan-European ethnic nationalist movement, your making an insult to those individuals who uphold those noble ideologies.


Why don't you kill yourself like your coward furher {may his name and memory be erased} did.

Isn't the proper acronym for NationStates Association of Zoologists and Intellectuals 'NAMBLA' anymore? Did I miss a memo? :confused:

National-Socialism is a noble ideology? Please stop, you're cracking me up.

Better than the poor excuse of an 'ideology' that is called 'democracy'.

Let's compare, shall we:

National Socialism

*Stable hard working government
*Brings the people and government together into a racially united society with no unrest or 'class' unrest.
*No corruption
*Justice against criminals
*Economic growth and zero unemployment
*Fighting against global Zionism and Jewish imperialism

Democracy

*Unstable incompetent government
*Divides people according to class, party affiliation etc...
*Corruption, lots of it
*No justice against criminals, high crime rates and victims suffer
*Unstable economies dependent of Jewish control of banking systems/institutions
*Forces nations to give up their freedom (UN/EU/WTO/IMF) and toe the line of the capital city of our Zionist occupied world, Tel Aviv

Yes, 'democracy' is great is it not.

Isn't the proper acronym for NationStates Association of Zoologists and Intellectuals 'NAMBLA' anymore? Did I miss a memo? :confused:
This is the General branch of NAMBLA. NAMBLA main branch is in II.

Oh joy, a Jewish conspiracy nut. Haven't seen one of these in a while. Yes, yes, of course the Jews control everything *Yawns* I'm being controlled by Jewish thought rays and Jewish-controlled media.

*Jumps up*

LONG LIVE ISRAEL!

*Sits down, oblivious*

Don't feed the troll people like I mistakenly did. If it's a zoological society, why is there an 'M' in NAMBLA?

Then don't be stupid, become a NAZI today!
Pass.

This is the General branch of NAMBLA. NAMBLA main branch is in II.
I knew there was a rational explanation. Well, back to bestiality for me. :p

Better than the poor excuse of an 'ideology' that is called 'democracy'.

Let's compare, shall we:

National Socialism

*Stable hard working government
*Brings the people and government together into a racially united society with no unrest or 'class' unrest.
*No corruption
*Justice against criminals
*Economic growth and zero unemployment
*Fighting against global Zionism and Jewish imperialism

Democracy

*Unstable incompetent government
*Divides people according to class, party affiliation etc...
*Corruption, lots of it
*No justice against criminals, high crime rates and victims suffer
*Unstable economies dependent of Jewish control of banking systems/institutions
*Forces nations to give up their freedom (UN/EU/WTO/IMF) and toe the line of the capital city of our Zionist occupied world, Tel Aviv

Yes, 'democracy' is great is it not.

Had to laugh at that one.

I'm Right Wing, but people any further to the right than me are idiots(same goes for anyone further to the left)

Long live Israel!

Don't feed the troll people like I mistakenly did. If it's a zoological society, why is there an 'M' in NAMBLA?
For Mammal. They're animals.

I apologise for making this thread. I didn't think they were any National Socialists left. :(

For Mammal. They're animals.

I apologise for making this thread. I didn't think they were any National Socialists left. :(

As long as those damned Jews and their mind-rays and media-control remain a threat, those National Socialists will remain to warn us of their dangers.

Oh joy, a Jewish conspiracy nut. Haven't seen one of these in a while. Yes, yes, of course the Jews control everything *Yawns* I'm being controlled by Jewish thought rays and Jewish-controlled media.

*Jumps up*

LONG LIVE ISRAEL!

*Sits down, oblivious*

Don't feed the troll people like I mistakenly did. If it's a zoological society, why is there an 'M' in NAMBLA?

*teh memories*

But....I thought the illuminati controlled everything...Maybe they're controlling the Jews! :eek:

*teh memories*

But....I thought the illuminati controlled everything...Maybe they're controlling the Jews! :eek:
The Free Masons control the Illuminati...but who controls the Free Masons? :confused:

*teh memories*

But....I thought the illuminati controlled everything...Maybe they're controlling the Jews! :eek:

We are controlled by the Jews, who are controlled by the Illuminati, who are controlled by the Space Pope, who is an agent of the Greys, who are secretly funded and organised by the Space Lizards disguised as the Queen and George Bush.

*teh memories*

But....I thought the illuminati controlled everything...Maybe they're controlling the Jews! :eek:
Oh, you wacky person you. Seen too much x-files, have we? Don't you worry your pretty little head, just relax and remember that there is no such thing as the Illuminati. :cool:
Fnord

Don't feed the troll people like I mistakenly did. If it's a zoological society, why is there an 'M' in NAMBLA?
North American Man Boy Love Association.

Watch more South Park.

But....I thought the illuminati controlled everything...Maybe they're controlling the Jews! :eek:

Nah. That's the Rosicrucians. Or maybe it was the Masons or Knights Templar.

Or maybe it was the Jewish grandmaster of the Masonic lodge of the Rosicrucian Templars.

I'm a bit confused - It's so hard to keep up with who's controlling my brain with those inter-dimensional lizard death rays these days.

We are controlled by the Jews, who are controlled by the Illuminati, who are controlled by the Space Pope, who is an agent of the Greys, who are secretly funded and organised by the Space Lizards disguised as the Queen and George Bush.
Who is controlled by the Prince of Monaco who is in partnership with the Emperor of San Francisco who is a robot built by GM which is a corporation run by Kim Jong-Il and Bill Cosby.

Better than the poor excuse of an 'ideology' that is called 'democracy'.

Let's compare, shall we:

National Socialism

*Stable hard working government
*Brings the people and government together into a racially united society with no unrest or 'class' unrest.
*No corruption
*Justice against criminals
*Economic growth and zero unemployment
*Fighting against global Zionism and Jewish imperialism

Democracy

*Unstable incompetent government
*Divides people according to class, party affiliation etc...
*Corruption, lots of it
*No justice against criminals, high crime rates and victims suffer
*Unstable economies dependent of Jewish control of banking systems/institutions
*Forces nations to give up their freedom (UN/EU/WTO/IMF) and toe the line of the capital city of our Zionist occupied world, Tel Aviv

Yes, 'democracy' is great is it not.
Zero unemployment would cause such massive hyperinflation that Weimar Germany would look stable in comparison. Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Accelerating_Inflation_Rate_of_Unemployment)

Why don't you kill yourself like your coward furher {may his name and memory be erased} did.

Why don't you drop another two atom bombs on an almost defeated country that your 'brave' leaders are too chicken-shit to invade.

Open your eyes and you will see the chaos and suffering the Jewish occupation of this world has caused.

Try and live in England, a nation that is near it's extinction thanks to our 'great democracy' and the Zionist controlled 'Prime Minister' Mr. Blair.

England will one day rise up and throw of it's racial enemies and I long for the day when we begin to purify our nation again, for we have been an impure nation since 1066.

Why don't you drop another two atom bombs on an almost defeated country that your 'brave' leaders are too chicken-shit to invade.
Point taken. Actually, I've never agreed with the droping of the atom bombs. The Holocaust was still worse. (That's not saying much, though.)

Why don't you drop another two atom bombs on an almost defeated country that your 'brave' leaders are too chicken-shit to invade.

Okay, it's 1: 30 nearly and you don't seem to be the one toi debate well, so here's a summary of the A-Bombs:


Terrible thing - no one says it isn't
Nagasaki a legitimate military target
JSOC estimated nearly 600,000 casualties more or less in Operation Olympic, and thats only US casualties
Dropping the bombs were the only viable military and political alternatives at the time - stress political
Politics of Truam wanting to seem strong against Russians and desire to see war ended early, plus limited knowledge about after-effects of the bombs made them neccessary and thus used


EDIT: Vague summary due to tiredness and some points debatable, but point trying to be made was bombs only viable contemporary decision to make. Hindsight says it was bad, but at time seemed better option.

I love NS...I clicked on this thread with the thoughts 'what the heck?' and then did indeed laugh at it. Maybe it's cause I'm British, and we won the war, I don't know. The 'real' Nazis are dead and buried anyway, some people should move on and just laugh over it, knowing no-one like that will likely be allowed to come into power again.

England will one day rise up and throw of it's racial enemies and I long for the day when we begin to purify our nation again, for we have been an impure nation since 1066.
Why 1066?

Sure, that's after the 'impure' Angles and Saxons invaded, and after the 'impure' Scandinavians controlled most of northern England, after the 'impure' Romans conquered....etc. etc. etc.

Zero unemployment would cause such massive hyperinflation that Weimar Germany would look stable in comparison. Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Accelerating_Inflation_Rate_of_Unemployment)
Not if you set a maximum wage.

...[Democracy] divides people according to class, party affiliation etc...
Good thing Nazis would never do that.

Why don't you drop another two atom bombs on an almost defeated country that your 'brave' leaders are too chicken-shit to invade.
Krieg ist krieg. The Japanese should have surrendered.

Not if you set a maximum wage.
Especially if you set a minimum wage.

Good thing Nazis would never do that.

Good job they never oppressed people of certain religious beliefs and places of birth, huh? And those who were crippled, disabled etc?

Nah. That's the Rosicrucians. Or maybe it was the Masons or Knights Templar.

Or maybe it was the Jewish grandmaster of the Masonic lodge of the Rosicrucian Templars.

I'm a bit confused - It's so hard to keep up with who's controlling my brain with those inter-dimensional lizard death rays these days.
Fnord.

I admit it, I laughed
Yeah and you scared me a second until I saw the Author...

[QUOTE][The Holocaust was still worse. (That's not saying much, though.)/QUOTE]

Most of the so-called evidence that is used to try and fool people into accepting the Holocaust as an absolut truth, is actually fabricated.

The Bolshevik hordes, otherwise known as the Russian 'Red Army' actually intituted a programme to build the alleged 'death camps' both in Poland, Germany and the terrorist criminal leader Tito did the same thing in Croatia, once the terrorists destroyed the Ustashe government in Zagreb.

Those people in those pictures we see, the starving skeletal 'Jewish' prisoners were actually brought over from the REAL death camps in the USSR.

For you see, the only holocaust that took place in Europe was that of the Jewish controlled Bolshevik criminals in Russia. 45 million people were killed by the Stalin regime, although the first death camps and the 'Red Army' were both set up in Russia during it's 1918-22 civil war by none other than the main Jewish figure in the criminal Bolshevik regime, Leon Trotsky.

...[Democracy] divides people according to class, party affiliation etc...
Au contraire. Read Democracy, the God that failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe.

Good job they never oppressed people of certain religious beliefs and places of birth, huh? And those who were crippled, disabled etc?
sar·casm ( P ) Pronunciation Key (särkzm)
n.
1. A cutting, often ironic remark intended to wound.
2. A form of wit that is marked by the use of sarcastic language and is intended to make its victim the butt of contempt or ridicule.
3. The use of sarcasm. See Synonyms at wit1.

Open your eyes and you will see the chaos and suffering the Jewish occupation of this world has caused.

Try and live in England, a nation that is near it's extinction thanks to our 'great democracy' and the Zionist controlled 'Prime Minister' Mr. Blair.

England will one day rise up and throw of it's racial enemies and I long for the day when we begin to purify our nation again, for we have been an impure nation since 1066.

What are you talking about? The brits have always been impure. Since WAY before 1066, the Celts were in England first until the Germanic tribes of Anglo's, Saxons, and Jutes took over(5th century I believe). After this, Latin monks and Vikings came to England "breeding" with the people. Oh no! Race mixing! How deadly!

Than the French came over and mixed with the English even more. How shameful. And after all that "race mixing" England became the ruler of the world for over a hundred years.

Is there any way Kravania that you can proove that your family roots are 100% pure Anglo? I doubt it. No person alive is pure.

Most of the so-called evidence that is used to try and fool people into accepting the Holocaust as an absolut truth, is actually fabricated.
http://www.hdot.org/ieindex.html

sar·casm ( P ) Pronunciation Key (särkzm)
n.
1. A cutting, often ironic remark intended to wound.
2. A form of wit that is marked by the use of sarcastic language and is intended to make its victim the butt of contempt or ridicule.
3. The use of sarcasm. See Synonyms at wit1.

I was also using this 'Sarcasm' you speak of - perhaps it wasn't clear enough.

Kravania sounds like something out of V for Vendetta.

I personally consider the Anglo-Saxons to be the true English race and no one else.

Prior to the Anglo-Saxon development of England, our nation was a colony of the Roman Empire, which brought many different races to our lands and thus made the English nation impure.

However, those races were NOT TOO different from our own and could be assimilated into our national Anglo-Saxon culture. During the 700s, an English Kingdom was formed, thus giving birth to an Anglo-Saxon nation, ruled by Anglo-Saxons and a nation that served, to the highest levels, the needs of the Anglo-Saxon race and people.

The REAL English Royal Family (not the corrupt non-entities who know occupy our Royal Court) was at one with our people, King Alfred the Great, being the most well known of those monarchs, for under his reign, the Kingdom of England was at his strongest, purest and most stable.

All other cultures were done away with and brought into the national culture of the Anglo-Saxon Kingdom of England.

Then our nation fell to a corrupt foreign Norman occupation, with the last King of England being slain on 14th October 1066. That date is a timeless reminder to our race of what we had and now have lost.

I would like to see the following:

*The removal of the false pretender 'Royal Family' of the Windsor court and the re-establishment of the true Royal Family of the Kingdom of England.

*The abolition of the UK. Scotland, Northen Ireland and Wales get their independence and a new English Nation is reborn.

*The creation of a 'National Legionary State' based on a similar model to the Romanian Fascist/Legionary movement, the Iron Guard of the 1930-40s or the Ustashe government of Coratia during WW2.

*A process to resettle non Anglo-Saxons to their ancesteral homelands.

*To withdrawl England from ALL international organisations and to promote the defence of national cultures and racial sepratism across the planet.

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The REAL English Royal Family (not the corrupt non-entities who know occupy our Royal Court) was at one with our people, King Alfred the Great, being the most well known of those monarchs, for under his reign, the Kingdom of England was at his strongest, purest and most stable.
Elisabeth built the Empire, and Victoria ruled it at its height. So how is he greater than either?

Sorry, Kravania, all humans originally came from Africa.

Sorry, Kravania, all humans originally came from Africa.
That would be 60 000 years ago, and even so, there are major disagreements as to whether or not this migrationary pattern is accurate. I think he is referring to ethnicities in their developed sense, which would be from around 6000 years ago.

However, those races were NOT TOO different from our own and could be assimilated into our national Anglo-Saxon culture.
Try again. Indo-Europeans and Celts is the single greatest ethnic division in Europe (apart from the Basques, maybe).

[QUOTE][The Holocaust was still worse. (That's not saying much, though.)/QUOTE]

Most of the so-called evidence that is used to try and fool people into accepting the Holocaust as an absolut truth, is actually fabricated.

The Bolshevik hordes, otherwise known as the Russian 'Red Army' actually intituted a programme to build the alleged 'death camps' both in Poland, Germany and the terrorist criminal leader Tito did the same thing in Croatia, once the terrorists destroyed the Ustashe government in Zagreb.

Those people in those pictures we see, the starving skeletal 'Jewish' prisoners were actually brought over from the REAL death camps in the USSR.

For you see, the only holocaust that took place in Europe was that of the Jewish controlled Bolshevik criminals in Russia. 45 million people were killed by the Stalin regime, although the first death camps and the 'Red Army' were both set up in Russia during it's 1918-22 civil war by none other than the main Jewish figure in the criminal Bolshevik regime, Leon Trotsky.

Alright Number one, I hope your joking about the fabricated evidence. The British SF knew about the camps before and flew OVER them during bombing raids but couldn't do jack sh**. They did exist. I've also talked to a holocaust surviver who told us how she escaped your beloved nazi germany and their death camps. There have been many records of survivors. America ALSO found death camps, and England too, along with the Russians. So lets all have a biiiiiig conspiracy about the holocaust... for what?

Number two, the dropping of the atom bomb was not right for us to do. But honestly what do you think imperial japan or nazi germany would have done with that technology? I know it doesn't make it right, but it was a horrible war and everyone made mistakes. We are still paying for them today, unfortunatly.

Number three, Who the Fu** do you think you are with your anti-Semitism and false ideals. Who are you to tell my that my people are impure and haven't suffered hundreds of thousands years of slavery and oppression, countless murders, crusades against them, and a genocide to top it off? What does that tell you? We faced slavery to hold our ideals. We were shunned, laughed at, killed, tortured. But we have never given up hope that one day the world will be a better place where there are no racial barriers to stop us (as humans not as a religious group) from achieving world peace. But it's little Fu**s like you that only destroy our world. You are fueled by hatred, rage, emotion. We lead our lives trying to make the world a better place. Now tell me, who are you to judge me?

Elisabeth built the Empire, and Victoria ruled it at its height. So how is he greater than either?

Neither of them were English, thus they were not serving the interests on the English Nation.

The English Nation ceased to exist as of the 14th October 1066. The British Empire was ruled by a non-English royal family and included many non-Anglo Saxon races (Africans/South Asians etc...)

The Norman ruling class is still powerful today, for their bloodline has controlled the English Nation since 1066.

Britian is a foreign alien nation, implanted on the English by a foreign ruling class.

The English race must reclaim their nation and heritage.

Neither of them were English, thus they were not serving the interests on the English Nation.
They made it the most powerful empire for a huge span of time.

Try again. Indo-Europeans and Celts is the single greatest ethnic division in Europe (apart from the Basques, maybe).
I was unaware indo-europeans and celts were divided. Who exactly are Indo-europeans then, in terms of ethnicity?

I did not find it funny.

Bestiality is disgusting and by associating bestiality with the National Socialist/Pan-European ethnic nationalist movement, your making an insult to those individuals who uphold those noble ideologies.

I won't mention the pictures i have of Hitler screwing Blondi whilst Goering defecates on Eva's chest then?

They made it the most powerful empire for a huge span of time.

That Empire was BRITISH, not English.

Besides Im anti-Empire, for Empires are multinational and multiracial.

The British Empire was one of the worst things for England, for it allowed us to lose our pure Anglo-Saxon culture even more than what we have already lost.

I was unaware indo-europeans and celts were divided. Who exactly are Indo-europeans then, in terms of ethnicity?
They are Indo-Europeans.

You know that I consider all these divisions arbitrary anyway, but the fact is that the Celts developed from, or replaced the original Homo Sapiens settlers of Europe, and once lived in pretty much the whole place.
Then the Indo-Europeans came from the East and started pushing them back (this is all before real written culture was around). The last Celtic Empires were in the West (Gaul, the Britannic Tribes and various tribes in Spain) and they were crushed by the Romans (who I think were Indo-Europeans, by virtue of being essentially Greek/Etruscan).

The Holocaust was still worse. (That's not saying much, though.)

Most of the so-called evidence that is used to try and fool people into accepting the Holocaust as an absolut truth, is actually fabricated.

The Bolshevik hordes, otherwise known as the Russian 'Red Army' actually intituted a programme to build the alleged 'death camps' both in Poland, Germany and the terrorist criminal leader Tito did the same thing in Croatia, once the terrorists destroyed the Ustashe government in Zagreb.

Those people in those pictures we see, the starving skeletal 'Jewish' prisoners were actually brought over from the REAL death camps in the USSR.

For you see, the only holocaust that took place in Europe was that of the Jewish controlled Bolshevik criminals in Russia. 45 million people were killed by the Stalin regime, although the first death camps and the 'Red Army' were both set up in Russia during it's 1918-22 civil war by none other than the main Jewish figure in the criminal Bolshevik regime, Leon Trotsky.

And I thought you just RP'ed in II as a fascist. I might point you to http://www.jtf.org. Research it thoroughly, it is written by a politician who refutes the virulently anti-Semitic claim of Jewish control over the media and government.

Also, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holohoax - an unbiased report on Sho'ah skepticism.

The English race must reclaim their nation and heritage.
If by "English race" you mean nutjobs who believe in racial superiority then the "English race" should shut up and be sent for a psych evaluation.:rolleyes:

I personally consider the Anglo-Saxons to be the true English race and no one else.

Prior to the Anglo-Saxon development of England, our nation was a colony of the Roman Empire, which brought many different races to our lands and thus made the English nation impure.

However, those races were NOT TOO different from our own and could be assimilated into our national Anglo-Saxon culture. During the 700s, an English Kingdom was formed, thus giving birth to an Anglo-Saxon nation, ruled by Anglo-Saxons and a nation that served, to the highest levels, the needs of the Anglo-Saxon race and people.

The REAL English Royal Family (not the corrupt non-entities who know occupy our Royal Court) was at one with our people, King Alfred the Great, being the most well known of those monarchs, for under his reign, the Kingdom of England was at his strongest, purest and most stable.

All other cultures were done away with and brought into the national culture of the Anglo-Saxon Kingdom of England.

Then our nation fell to a corrupt foreign Norman occupation, with the last King of England being slain on 14th October 1066. That date is a timeless reminder to our race of what we had and now have lost.

I would like to see the following:

*The removal of the false pretender 'Royal Family' of the Windsor court and the re-establishment of the true Royal Family of the Kingdom of England.

*The abolition of the UK. Scotland, Northen Ireland and Wales get their independence and a new English Nation is reborn.

*The creation of a 'National Legionary State' based on a similar model to the Romanian Fascist/Legionary movement, the Iron Guard of the 1930-40s or the Ustashe government of Coratia during WW2.

*A process to resettle non Anglo-Saxons to their ancesteral homelands.

*To withdrawl England from ALL international organisations and to promote the defence of national cultures and racial sepratism across the planet.


Christ you are either fucking hilarious at deadpan humour, a complete loon or a 9 year old who has no grasp of reality.

Or maybe even all three.

I did not find it funny.

Bestiality is disgusting and by associating bestiality with the National Socialist/Pan-European ethnic nationalist movement, your making an insult to those individuals who uphold those noble ideologies.
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Oh my fucking God, please tell me you're not older than, say, 13. Please.

They are Indo-Europeans.

You know that I consider all these divisions arbitrary anyway, but the fact is that the Celts developed from, or replaced the original Homo Sapiens settlers of Europe, and once lived in pretty much the whole place.
Then the Indo-Europeans came from the East and started pushing them back (this is all before real written culture was around). The last Celtic Empires were in the West (Gaul, the Britannic Tribes and various tribes in Spain) and they were crushed by the Romans (who I think were Indo-Europeans, by virtue of being essentially Greek/Etruscan).
I think the germanic tribes were also indo-european, although I'm not sure. They also interbreeded with the Romans. So it would be pretty much all Europeans now.

I think the germanic tribes were also indo-european, although I'm not sure. They also interbreeded with the Romans. So it would be pretty much all Europeans now.
Exactly.

Although I did some research, and Celtic is actually an Indo-European language as well.
Nonetheless, I know that they lived in most of Europe first, and where then pushed aside later by various Germanic and Greek peoples. So the division is nonetheless there and significant.

As for the "racial purity" of Anglo-Saxons...considering that they were actually from three tribes, which didn't move together, but ended up settling in different parts of Britain - well, let's just say that I'm laughing.

Im 23 years old.

Have a gone through university with a degree in Sociology and now work as a Stockbroker (equities for small cap shares and emerging markets) for an investment bank.

Im neither mad, immature/pre-teen or joking about what I posted.

Exactly.

Although I did some research, and Celtic is actually an Indo-European language as well.
Nonetheless, I know that they lived in most of Europe first, and where then pushed aside later by various Germanic and Greek peoples. So the division is nonetheless there and significant.
Even Hitler, with his absurd reasoning, drew a link between most Europeans based on the Indo-european migrationary patterns. He excluded those he didn't like of course. It's pretty well known by now that this is the case.

As for the "racial purity" of Anglo-Saxons...considering that they were actually from three tribes, which didn't move together, but ended up settling in different parts of Britain - well, let's just say that I'm laughing.
Indeed. Anglo-saxon is an amalgam of them, not a separate ethnicity in and of itself. It would actually be the most mixed one.

Im 23 years old.

Have a gone through university with a degree in Sociology and now work as a Stockbroker (equities for small cap shares and emerging markets) for an investment bank.

Im neither mad, immature/pre-teen or joking about what I posted.

I have a chinese girlfriend?

Does that mean you wish to shoot me? Will I be sent to a deathcamp for having sex with someone of a different race?

And I have family members who WERE nazis in WWII, and they ADMIT the existence of gas chambers and mass genocide against the Jews, and they do regret doing what they do(and now have many jewish friends)

And I support Israel as well, am I evil? Will I be shot in your fascist government?

Well then, wouldn't it be NSAZI?

Well then, wouldn't it be NSAZI?
But how the hell would you pronounce it?

They are Indo-Europeans.

You know that I consider all these divisions arbitrary anyway, but the fact is that the Celts developed from, or replaced the original Homo Sapiens settlers of Europe, and once lived in pretty much the whole place.
Then the Indo-Europeans came from the East and started pushing them back (this is all before real written culture was around). The last Celtic Empires were in the West (Gaul, the Britannic Tribes and various tribes in Spain) and they were crushed by the Romans (who I think were Indo-Europeans, by virtue of being essentially Greek/Etruscan).
Actually, the Celts, and some of the Germanic-speaking peoples like the Ostrogoths, were multi-ethnic groups speaking (in the Celts case) a broad collection of related (but not necessarily mutually understood) languages. The linguistic history of Europe tends to be one more of transference than one of perpetual direct imposition.

National-Socialism is a noble ideology? Please stop, you're cracking me up.
communism is a noble ideology. dont gimmie that soft crap, "ohh, its perfect in theroy, but people cant" BULLCRAP. its perfect if you stick to it.:headbang:

communism is a noble ideology. dont gimmie that soft crap, "ohh, its perfect in theroy, but people cant" BULLCRAP. its perfect if you stick to it.

National Socialism is NAZISM!

Not Communism, Bolshevism or Marxism.

Adolf Hitler was the founder of National Socialism.

communism is a noble ideology. dont gimmie that soft crap, "ohh, its perfect in theroy, but people cant" BULLCRAP. its perfect if you stick to it.:headbang:
You're going to learn soon enough. The hard way. :) Disraeliland will most likely be your "tutor."

Better than the poor excuse of an 'ideology' that is called 'democracy'.
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National Socialism
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*Fighting against global Zionism and Jewish imperialism

Democracy
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*Forces nations to give up their freedom (UN/EU/WTO/IMF) and toe the line of the capital city of our Zionist occupied world, Tel Aviv

Yes, 'democracy' is great is it not.
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HMMM... WHERE DID I PUT THE SHORTCUT TO "SMITE.EXE"....

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YOU LOSE.

But how the hell would you pronounce it?

Nuh-sna-zi, Perhaps?

communism is a noble ideology. dont gimmie that soft crap, "ohh, its perfect in theroy, but people cant" BULLCRAP. its perfect if you stick to it.

It's noble, but it's not perfect. Lots of things depend too much on the populace, which is a variable.

Originally Posted by Kravania
I personally consider the Anglo-Saxons to be the true English race and no one else.

Prior to the Anglo-Saxon development of England, our nation was a colony of the Roman Empire, which brought many different races to our lands and thus made the English nation impure.

However, those races were NOT TOO different from our own and could be assimilated into our national Anglo-Saxon culture. During the 700s, an English Kingdom was formed, thus giving birth to an Anglo-Saxon nation, ruled by Anglo-Saxons and a nation that served, to the highest levels, the needs of the Anglo-Saxon race and people.

The REAL English Royal Family (not the corrupt non-entities who know occupy our Royal Court) was at one with our people, King Alfred the Great, being the most well known of those monarchs, for under his reign, the Kingdom of England was at his strongest, purest and most stable.

All other cultures were done away with and brought into the national culture of the Anglo-Saxon Kingdom of England.

Then our nation fell to a corrupt foreign Norman occupation, with the last King of England being slain on 14th October 1066. That date is a timeless reminder to our race of what we had and now have lost.

I would like to see the following:

*The removal of the false pretender 'Royal Family' of the Windsor court and the re-establishment of the true Royal Family of the Kingdom of England.

*The abolition of the UK. Scotland, Northen Ireland and Wales get their independence and a new English Nation is reborn.

*The creation of a 'National Legionary State' based on a similar model to the Romanian Fascist/Legionary movement, the Iron Guard of the 1930-40s or the Ustashe government of Coratia during WW2.

*A process to resettle non Anglo-Saxons to their ancesteral homelands.

*To withdrawl England from ALL international organisations and to promote the defence of national cultures and racial sepratism across the planet.

I guess us Americans don't count, we're too "mixed" to be allowed into the uber white race.

I guess us Americans don't count, we're too "mixed" to be allowed into the uber white race.
The way he puts it, no non-purely English white would be allowed anyway.

Nuh-sna-zi, Perhaps?
Yeah, but the added sna takes some of the kick away.

I guess us Americans don't count, we're too "mixed" to be allowed into the uber white race.

Im an English Nationalist and Anglo-Saxon racialist, so I care little for the fate of America.

The only pure Americans are the Native Indian tribes.

The rest of the population are immigrants.

However I would urge those Anglo-Saxon Americans to return to the homeland.

Provided they dropped so-called US 'culture' at the borders, for the US has no national culture, only decadence and a Jewish controlled media telling them that blowing up fireworks on the 4th of July and reading their 'constitution' in the classroom is somehow a culture.

Im neither mad, immature/pre-teen or joking about what I posted.



Crazy people often don't know that they're crazy.

The way he puts it, no non-purely English white would be allowed anyway.

Well, fuck his depraved psycho Nazi voodoo bullshit then. USA! USA!

Actually, to say the UN is Zionist is absurd. The UN repeatedly votes to condemn the Terrorist State of Israel for its atrocious crimes against the Palestinian freedom fighters, but the USA vetoes almost all of the resolutions against Israel. Still, many have eluded the veto and Israel is in violation of numerous UNGA and UNSC resolutions.

You're going to learn soon enough. The hard way. :) Disraeliland will most likely be your "tutor."
To be honest, I think he might be a smart guy, but he doesn't have the style to actually convince anyone. And he is very stuck in his ways.

So I always had the impression that he's more debating for himself than the other person, and so it's unlikely the other person would learn anything.

To be honest, I think he might be a smart guy, but he doesn't have the style to actually convince anyone. And he is very stuck in his ways.
His arguments can be extremely convincing, but I concur with you on that. He seems far too biased at times to actually be giving a reasoned opinion.

So I always had the impression that he's more debating for himself than the other person, and so it's unlikely the other person would learn anything.
As in flaunting his intellectual prowess. Yes. It does seem that way at times. His tone becomes far too condescending in my view. Which is a shame, since his arguments tend to be solid.

Better than the poor excuse of an 'ideology' that is called 'democracy'.

Let's compare, shall we:

National Socialism

*Stable hard working government
*Brings the people and government together into a racially united society with no unrest or 'class' unrest.
*No corruption
*Justice against criminals
*Economic growth and zero unemployment
*Fighting against global Zionism and Jewish imperialism

Democracy

*Unstable incompetent government
*Divides people according to class, party affiliation etc...
*Corruption, lots of it
*No justice against criminals, high crime rates and victims suffer
*Unstable economies dependent of Jewish control of banking systems/institutions
*Forces nations to give up their freedom (UN/EU/WTO/IMF) and toe the line of the capital city of our Zionist occupied world, Tel Aviv

Yes, 'democracy' is great is it not.
Okay. First: if you're going to compare something, do it with facts, and if you DO use opinions, BACK THEM UP WITH HARD EVIDENCE! If you're too lazy to actually supply evidence, then what does this tell us about your beliefs, hmmmm? Right now, you just seem biased.
Second, the USA isn't the only Democracy. If you want to insult the country, have at it, sir, but don't slander the name of Democracy itself, for sanity's sake! Have a nice day.

Adolf Hitler was the founder of National Socialism.

Uhhh no National Socialism was around in germany before Hilter came to the party.

England will one day rise up and throw of it's racial enemies and I long for the day when we begin to purify our nation again, for we have been an impure nation since 1066.So, after 940 years, how many English are there who don't have Norman and Viking blood in their veins?

The correct answer is "none".

That's one H_ll of a lot of "purification" ahead of you, buddy. At that rate, there won't even be any sparrows left.

[QUOTE][Uhhh no National Socialism was around in germany before Hilter came to the party./QUOTE]

Yes there were anti-Zionist oppressor 'Folkish' groups in Germany that preached Aryan Brotherhood and the like.

However, Hitler came up with the term 'National Socialism'.

What are you talking about? The brits have always been impure. Since WAY before 1066, the Celts were in England first until the Germanic tribes of Anglo's, Saxons, and Jutes took over(5th century I believe). After this, Latin monks and Vikings came to England "breeding" with the people. Oh no! Race mixing! How deadly!

Than the French came over and mixed with the English even more. How shameful. And after all that "race mixing" England became the ruler of the world for over a hundred years.Yep. When asked, I often describe my nationality as "Channel mongrel".

[QUOTE][Uhhh no National Socialism was around in germany before Hilter came to the party./QUOTE]

Yes there were anti-Zionist oppressor 'Folkish' groups in Germany that preached Aryan Brotherhood and the like.

However, Hilter came up with the term 'National Socialism'.

Hilter. Hehe.

Yes there were anti-Zionist oppressor 'Folkish' groups in Germany that preached Aryan Brotherhood and the like.
Would you quit violating my language like that?

However, Hilter came up with the term 'National Socialism'.
Actually, that was Mussolini, and he meant something different. I think it was Communists who first decided to call the Nazis "National Socialists", but I'm not sure.

Okay. First: if you're going to compare something, do it with facts, and if you DO use opinions, BACK THEM UP WITH HARD EVIDENCE! If you're too lazy to actually supply evidence, then what does this tell us about your beliefs, hmmmm? Right now, you just seem biased.
Second, the USA isn't the only Democracy. If you want to insult the country, have at it, sir, but don't slander the name of Democracy itself, for sanity's sake! Have a nice day.
There are many who do a much better job at slandering Democracy anyway. ;)

Would you quit violating my language like that?


Actually, that was Mussolini, and he meant something different. I think it was Communists who first decided to call the Nazis "National Socialists", but I'm not sure.

Mussolini had fascism didn't he? Either way, Nazism is basically the same as Fascism. Fascism was much more corporate than the Nazis though. In a sense, based on the political compass, Nazism is technically Far-Center, not Far-Right. The center coming from the economic scale, the far being on the social scale. Fascism was much more Far-Right in the sense that the Corporations literally ruled the country(correct me if I'm wrong, my memory fails me)

Uhhh no National Socialism was around in germany before Hilter came to the party.
Who? That other idiot Dexler? Nothing of his his ideas made it into the NSDAP! And, considering that Hitler had Party card no. 5, I don't see the point in the "roots" for four members.
The Thule society is some other concept altogether. They were Antisemitic cretins (a tautology), but did not "benefit" from the "wake up-call of Fascism" (and they couldn't have had, since they kinda disbanded before Mussolini founded his movement). They were occultist racists without intentions of forming a mass movement.

Actually, that was Mussolini, and he meant something different. I think it was Communists who first decided to call the Nazis "National Socialists", but I'm not sure.
No, the name came about because Dexler was too big an ecclectic idiot. He wanted both nationalism and socialism (like D'Annunzio, Mussolini, Corradini, etc - except he lacked the pedigree of being spat on by respectable Socialists - they just ignored him).

Yes there were anti-Zionist oppressor 'Folkish' groups in Germany that preached Aryan Brotherhood and the like.

However, Hitler came up with the term 'National Socialism'.

Yes but your statement was that Hitler founded the party. He didn't, rather he proposed a name change in which you were correct in the belief that he did come up with the name. Still thats much different then your statement of him founding the party.

Mussolini had fascism didn't he? Either way, Nazism is basically the same as Fascism. Fascism was much more corporate than the Nazis though. In a sense, based on the political compass, Nazism is technically Far-Center, not Far-Right. The center coming from the economic scale, the far being on the social scale. Fascism was much more Far-Right in the sense that the Corporations literally ruled the country(correct me if I'm wrong, my memory fails me)
They are similar, but some quite important differences. So you can't really use the words interchangably.

They're both Social Darwinist (ie the strongest wins and rightly so), they both reject 19th century political tradition (ie we should make decisions with our minds, using reason, scientific analysis and so on) and both anti-individualist (ie putting the state in Mussolini's case and the race in Hitler's case before the individual).

But Fascism isn't racist. In Italy Jews, Gypsies, Black people, White people and so on all lived happily together, as long as they all identified with the Italian state.
Fascism is also corporatist, in that large conglomerates own everything. But they have to make decisions together with large labour unions, and all under the watch of the state as independent arbiter and representative of what is best for the nation.

Nazism on the other hand is all about race.
And economically, it's much more top-down. Everyone has someone above him, and at the very top is one leader (or, as the English say these days - a Führer). Everyone gets to command someone around for a bit, acting on orders from above. It's a pyramide scheme.

The problem is that Mussolini's Italy didn't really work. Some people got very rich, but nothing was really produced. The war planes used in parades were made of paper. So Nazi Germany soon overtook Italy and then started to force Nazi policies on the country.

And then, some modern fascists also consider Mussolini's second attempt important. When he was freed by German soldiers and put in charge of a puppet country in the North of Italy near the end of the war, he tried it again with some differences. It's a bit of a mix between Socialism and Fascism, and obviously because it was the last thing he did, Mussolini ended up claiming that that was real fascism.

I hate to be a party pooper but threads like this make light of the inhumane treatment of millions of people, including millions of murders and i find it disrespectul to their suffering and their memory.:mad:

Who? That other idiot Dexler? Nothing of his his ideas made it into the NSDAP! And, considering that Hitler had Party card no. 5, I don't see the point in the "roots" for four members.
Anton Drexler. Hitler pretty much hijacked the party from him.

The Thule society is some other concept altogether. They were Antisemitic cretins (a tautology), but did not "benefit" from the "wake up-call of Fascism" (and they couldn't have had, since they kinda disbanded before Mussolini founded his movement). They were occultist racists without intentions of forming a mass movement.
Yes, they were an odd bunch. Deeply steeped into Occultism, and linked to the Golden Dawn, although the latter was not so racially obsessed.

I hate to be a party pooper but threads like this make light of the inhumane treatment of millions of people, including millions of murders and i find it disrespectul to their suffering and their memory.:mad:

Yeah, i felt the same way about the Valentines Day threads.

Yes but your statement was that Hitler founded the party. He didn't, rather he proposed a name change in which you were correct in the belief that he did come up with the name. Still thats much different then your statement of him founding the party.

Anton Drexler led the German Workers Party.

Hitler joined that and reforged it into the NSDAP.

Hitler founded the National Socialist party in it's NSDAP formation.

Anton Drexler led the German Workers Party.

Hitler joined that and reforged it into the NSDAP.

Hitler founded the National Socialist party in it's NSDAP formation.
Again: Hitler was Party member number 5.

Hitler was Actually member no. 7 and that was for the GWP, not the NSDAP, which he gave himself card no. 1

Hitler was Actually member no. 7 and that was for the GWP, not the NSDAP, which he gave himself card no. 1
Even better.

They are similar, but some quite important differences. So you can't really use the words interchangably.

They're both Social Darwinist (ie the strongest wins and rightly so), they both reject 19th century political tradition (ie we should make decisions with our minds, using reason, scientific analysis and so on) and both anti-individualist (ie putting the state in Mussolini's case and the race in Hitler's case before the individual).

But Fascism isn't racist. In Italy Jews, Gypsies, Black people, White people and so on all lived happily together, as long as they all identified with the Italian state.
Fascism is also corporatist, in that large conglomerates own everything. But they have to make decisions together with large labour unions, and all under the watch of the state as independent arbiter and representative of what is best for the nation.

Nazism on the other hand is all about race.
And economically, it's much more top-down. Everyone has someone above him, and at the very top is one leader (or, as the English say these days - a Führer). Everyone gets to command someone around for a bit, acting on orders from above. It's a pyramide scheme.

The problem is that Mussolini's Italy didn't really work. Some people got very rich, but nothing was really produced. The war planes used in parades were made of paper. So Nazi Germany soon overtook Italy and then started to force Nazi policies on the country.

And then, some modern fascists also consider Mussolini's second attempt important. When he was freed by German soldiers and put in charge of a puppet country in the North of Italy near the end of the war, he tried it again with some differences. It's a bit of a mix between Socialism and Fascism, and obviously because it was the last thing he did, Mussolini ended up claiming that that was real fascism.

Thanks, that was quite educational. Good stuff

Anton Drexler led the German Workers Party.

Hitler joined that and reforged it into the NSDAP.

Hitler founded the National Socialist party in it's NSDAP formation.

Then, Hitler and the Nazis took control of Germany.

They then annexed Austria, and not too long afterward, invaded Poland.

Then, he set his eyes on France, which got pwned fairly early in the war.

He then tried to defeat the British Air Force, and crippled the Luftwafe in the process.

Then, after needlesly declaring war on the United States, he losses North Africa to the Allies.

At around the same time, he invades Russia. Good choice, mien Furher.

Enter Russian winter and T-35s.

Then, the western allies land at Normandy, and eventually take back France.

He then wastes his experienced troops in a bid to push the allies back, even though his industrial base has been destroyed by Allied bombings.

Allies cross the Rhine, and approach the German heartland. Soon, the Eagle's Nest is captured and the 101st Airborne has a winefest in the ruins.

Russia captures Berlin and the brave Furher kills himself before Russian troops can reach him and pay him back.

What a wonderful leader. A thousand year Reich crushed in about 10 years.

Owned.

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What a wonderful leader. A thousand year Reich crushed in about 10 years.

Owned.
Hey, maybe 1 of our years is 100 Hitler years :p

Hey, maybe 1 of our years is 100 Hitler years :p
Faster metabolism.

Faster metabolism.

like mayfly but slightly more irritating.

Then, Hitler and the Nazis took control of Germany.

They then annexed Austria, and not too long afterward, invaded Poland.

Then, he set his eyes on France, which got pwned fairly early in the war.

He then tried to defeat the British Air Force, and crippled the Luftwafe in the process.

Then, after needlesly declaring war on the United States, he losses North Africa to the Allies.

At around the same time, he invades Russia. Good choice, mien Furher.

Enter Russian winter and T-35s.

Then, the western allies land at Normandy, and eventually take back France.

He then wastes his experienced troops in a bid to push the allies back, even though his industrial base has been destroyed by Allied bombings.

Allies cross the Rhine, and approach the German heartland. Soon, the Eagle's Nest is captured and the 101st Airborne has a winefest in the ruins.

Russia captures Berlin and the brave Furher kills himself before Russian troops can reach him and pay him back.

What a wonderful leader. A thousand year Reich crushed in about 10 years.

Owned.

Look to the future, for it does belong to Fascism and nothing else.

At last Europe is returning to common sense for the Fascist movement is growing again.

In Spain, high ranking military officers threaten to overthrow democracy via a military coup, over the socialist regimes plan to split Spain into regions by giving away Catalonia.

In Croatia, the Ustashe movement is growing, despite decades of Titoite communist tyranny.

Russia is seeing a growth in Nationalist movements and of Fascist ideas.

Fascist movements grow in Poland.

Europeans, unlike brainwashed Americans, have started to see the light and drop this nonsense of democracy.

Faster metabolism.
Well they say smaller people do have those, so that's a possibility.

Hey, maybe 1 of our years is 100 Hitler years :p

Heh, Hitler years.

Look to the future, for it does belong to Fascism and nothing else.

At last Europe is returning to common sense for the Fascist movement is growing again.

In Spain, high ranking military officers threaten to overthrow democracy via a military coup, over the socialist regimes plan to split Spain into regions by giving away Catalonia.

In Croatia, the Ustashe movement is growing, despite decades of Titoite communist tyranny.

Russia is seeing a growth in Nationalist movements and of Fascist ideas.

Fascist movements grow in Poland.

Europeans, unlike brainwashed Americans, have started to see the light and drop this nonsense of democracy.

In your dreams sonny boooooy, in your dreams.

If one of the leading lights in your grand worldwide fascist revival is the mighty Croatia...oh, i can't even be arsed to finish refuting you.

Europeans, unlike brainwashed Americans, have started to see the light and drop this nonsense of democracy.
Being libertarian, the only form of government I could possibly deem as worse than democracy (in its present form) is fascism. So I would see that as a return to the dark rather than a move forward.

...Owned.
Love the one-sidedness.

Sorry I have to bring that up, but you really need to look at the way things really happened. The West was a secondary front. The Russians destroyed the Third Reich, the Allies merely took some part in it.

Love the one-sidedness.
That never ceases to amaze me. It makes me wonder how History is indeed taught over on that side of the pond.

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And I'll just pretend that Britain, France, Sweden, Switzerland, Ukraine, Finland, Denmark, Holland, the Netherlands, Portugal, Greece, Austria and Italy don't exist.

Sorry I have to bring that up, but you really need to look at the way things really happened. The West was a secondary front. The Russians destroyed the Third Reich, the Allies merely took some part in it.

I tend to think of it as the western allies doing most of the work in winning the entire war (Pacific, African, and European theatres). Britain and America almost exclusively defeated Japan in the Pacific, and Russia was nowhere to be seen in Africa. And if we hadn't opened up the second front on the Nazis, they might have built up the strength to hold the Ruskies at bay and perhaps push them back.

Kravania, your posts are the most entertaining on this thread.

I tend to think of it as the western allies doing most of the work in winning the entire war (Pacific, African, and European theatres). Britain and America almost exclusively defeated Japan in the Pacific, and Russia was nowhere to be seen in Africa. And if we hadn't opened up the second front on the Nazis, they might have built up the strength to hold the Ruskies at bay and perhaps push them back.
Meh, that's ridiculous.

Germany could have crushed the Western Allies without breaking a sweat if the USSR hadn't been there.

Germany lost somewhere between 75% and 90% of its total casualties on the Eastern Front. For elite units like the Division Großdeutschland the figure was more like 98%.

On D-Day, 55% of the German military was deployed on the Eastern Front. 36% were deployed in occupied areas and 8% on all other fronts (like Africa). When the Allies landed, troops were taken from occupied areas, not the Eastern Front.

I think you might not have really comprehended the sheer scale of how things were done in the East.

Meh, that's ridiculous.

Germany could have crushed the Western Allies without breaking a sweat if the USSR hadn't been there.

Germany lost somewhere between 75% and 90% of its total casualties on the Eastern Front. For elite units like the Division Großdeutschland the figure was more like 98%.

On D-Day, 55% of the German military was deployed on the Eastern Front. 36% were deployed in occupied areas and 8% on all other fronts (like Africa). When the Allies landed, troops were taken from occupied areas, not the Eastern Front.

I think you might not have really comprehended the sheer scale of how things were done in the East.
Add to that the enormous losses suffered by Russia compared to Germany. Russia did a huge amount of work in driving Germany back. Neither front on its own could ever defeat Germany, so to think that it was just the Western front is idiotic.

Love the one-sidedness.

Sorry I have to bring that up, but you really need to look at the way things really happened. The West was a secondary front. The Russians destroyed the Third Reich, the Allies merely took some part in it.

Although America had a major part in the fighting on the western front (deviding Geman attentions), our two largest contributions to the war in Europe was the bombing campaign, and supplying Russia with war material. The Russians then took those supplied and destroyed Nazi Germany.

Open your eyes and you will see the chaos and suffering the Jewish occupation of this world has caused.

Try and live in England, a nation that is near it's extinction thanks to our 'great democracy' and the Zionist controlled 'Prime Minister' Mr. Blair.

England will one day rise up and throw of it's racial enemies and I long for the day when we begin to purify our nation again, for we have been an impure nation since 1066.

Yah....the Anglo-Saxon (Germanic) blood was corrupted by the Normans (Germanic)....sure (in case anyone doesn't know hes refering to the battle of Hastings). The UK is not near its extinction, and it has had the same democratic institutions (or near on them) through its entire period as empire, so where is the cause and effect relationship demonstrating this decline? How can the Zionists control Mr.Blair whne they can't even control Palestine? If the British really are having a hard time surviving, they could take a lesson from the Jews (who amazingly are around against the odds), start at circumcision. Just for shits and giggles, who has caused more chaos and suffering by their occupation of the world, a) the British, b) the Jews, c) the Samoans. As for you throwing off your racial enemies, one word: commonwealth. You brought them there, dipshit.

I'm half English, but call a spade black damn it.

Im 23 years old.

Have a gone through university with a degree in Sociology and now work as a Stockbroker (equities for small cap shares and emerging markets) for an investment bank.

Im neither mad, immature/pre-teen or joking about what I posted.

Well, I guess its true; you can't polish a shit.

Likewise, Revnia.

Likewise, Revnia.

Likewise I am an unpolishable shit, or likewise as in ditto?

I'll give you a ditto Revnia,

The puss could at least have the balls to be a real boot boy and not some arm-chair race warrior.

I dont mind rampant hate for no reason, but once you start trying to justify it with absurd claims then you become a fool.

Doubltess a chattering knock-knee who certainly does not have the strength of his convictions.

Better than the poor excuse of an 'ideology' that is called 'democracy'.

Let's compare, shall we:

National Socialism

*Stable hard working government
*Brings the people and government together into a racially united society with no unrest or 'class' unrest.
*No corruption
*Justice against criminals
*Economic growth and zero unemployment
*Fighting against global Zionism and Jewish imperialism

Democracy

*Unstable incompetent government
*Divides people according to class, party affiliation etc...
*Corruption, lots of it
*No justice against criminals, high crime rates and victims suffer
*Unstable economies dependent of Jewish control of banking systems/institutions
*Forces nations to give up their freedom (UN/EU/WTO/IMF) and toe the line of the capital city of our Zionist occupied world, Tel Aviv

Yes, 'democracy' is great is it not.


Don't get me wrong. Communism, Nazism, Socialism, Democracy all have thier vices and virtues. Yes a democracy is a less efficent society, but to compensate, equality and liberty are avilible to everyone. National Socialism does have its virtues. With national pride, and a safe and secure enviorment, I can see why it appealed to the germans in the 30's and 40's. However, it, like all idealoliges is flawed.

As far as i'm concerned, with in the end of the Third Reich in 1945 the organization is dead. all neo-nazi's are a band of people, who are given no respect and laughed at in the international community. They have no power.

Although America had a major part in the fighting on the western front (deviding Geman attentions), our two largest contributions to the war in Europe was the bombing campaign, and supplying Russia with war material. The Russians then took those supplied and destroyed Nazi Germany.

Indeed. The Germans never considered the fighting in North Africa, Italy, or France to be of any great import. At least not compared to the Eastern Front. All you have to do is look at the sheer numbers of the thing: All of the newest and best equipment went to the East, first. Africa was so far down the list that the Germans and Italians were running on fumes and iron dust nine times out of ten. That's beside the numbers of divisions that were fighting against the Soviets, compared to how many were fighting in Africa, Italy, and France combined.

The Nazis loss was pretty much inevitable after Barbarosa: the only questions were, when and how many would die (and how much of Europe would become Soviet sateillites). America's greatest contributions came in the Pacific War.

As for the whole facso-racism thing: facsism and racism are so sixty years ago. Anytime you want to catch up to us here in the 21st Century, you're more than welcome to. Of course, it will require that you accept facts, rather than blindly sputter falsehoods.

Oh, and before I go: Mossad is watching. Mossad knows.

Kravania is not a nazi. He is a facist, and yes, their is a difference. And concerning his theroy of "future facism" as a dominating idealology, he may not be far off. In china, they are calling thier scientists home, and observing national pride greatly. They are a dictatorship, and in 10 years or so, I wouldn't be surprised if they adopting full-fledged facism. 1 more thing. What the fuck is up with this "Jewish conspiracy" bullshit? Yes the American media is overwhelmingly liberal, and I am neutral. Where do Jews play into that? I am also a christian, so my ideals are much differnt than Judaism, but still, I don't see a conspiracy. Let's face the facts. Hitler needed a scapegoat. The Germans were in deep economic depression, and needed to point the finger (*cough* hurricane katrina) Hitler chose the Jewish people (that asshole, I had Jewish family roots in germany back then) to point the plan. The accusation is crap, at best.

You know what is worse? Sure Nazism was bad, but look at Russia under Stalin. You wanna learn about a true monster, read up on him. The worst idealoligies include Nazism, but Stalinism being first. Communism is patriotic, but is bound to fail, as is socialism. I am neutral, and have yet to develop my ideals, and i am willing to be open-minded.

National Socialism

*Stable hard working government
*Brings the people and government together into a racially united society with no unrest or 'class' unrest.
*No corruption
*Justice against criminals
*Economic growth and zero unemployment
*Fighting against global Zionism and Jewish imperialism You mean:
National Socialism*Fascist one-party dictatorship.
*Class-based society where the "party" controls all wealth.
*Black market a necessity for survival of the lower class.
*Execution of all dissidents. Cruel & unusual punishment for all.
*Planned economy severely stifles free initiative & economic growth.
*A permanent state of war against fictional enemies, to keep the rabble from lynching the insane & cruel dictators - That is what you meant, right?

By the way, Stalinism is Nazism. Just with fewer swastika's & less sieg heil'ing.

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Considering that the only differences between Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, Stalin's Soviet Union, the People's Republic of China, and North Korea are who they blame and what they call themselves... yeah....

Fascism is out the door. Has been since Spain became a democracy. (Or maybe Thailand... can't remember which one was the last to have an out-and-out fascist government.) Internationalism and globalization are the future. The only thing that can or will be able to undo globalization would be a natural disaster on an order of magnitude no less than that which caused Noah to build his Ark: something humanity hasn't encountered since people started writing. And then, we'll all be royally fucked and we'll go back to what would essentially be a second dark age, into which we would regress back to tribalism and iron age technology.

You mean:
National Socialism*Fascist one-party dictatorship.
*Class-based society where the "party" controls all wealth.
*Black market a necessity for survival of the lower class.
*Execution of all dissidents. Cruel & unusual punishment for all.
*Planned economy severely stifles free initiative & economic growth.
*A permanent state of war against fictional enemies, to keep the rabble from lynching the insane & cruel dictators - That is what you meant, right?

By the way, Stalinism is Nazism. Just with fewer swastika's & less sieg heil'ing.


No, not at all. Stalinism focuses much less on racil purification, and much more on ganster like tactics, to establish the head party of state, to be wealthy, and in total control. Nazism is similar, but they are also completely differnt.

Oh, you wacky person you. Seen too much x-files, have we? Don't you worry your pretty little head, just relax and remember that there is no such thing as the Illuminati. :cool:
Fnord

This person sounds like an Illuminatus to me! *panics*

National Socialism

*Stable hard working government

If, by stable, you mean as fickle as the Great Leader's whim, then yes.

*Brings the people and government together into a racially united society with no unrest or 'class' unrest.

Race is a convenient lie contrived by the weak fascist mind to explain his own inferiority in the face of members of other races, who he is jealous of.

*No corruption

All authoritarian regimes are innately corrupt. Every fascist government in history has been corrupt, from Nazi Germany to the Soviet Union.

*Justice against criminals

Well, yes, crime does, indeed, decrease, when you make criminals cops and let them do what they would usually be doing anyway.

*Economic growth and zero unemployment

A pipe-dream at best. Pure naivete or purposeful malice at worst.

*Fighting against global Zionism and Jewish imperialism

Yes. Jewish Imperialism. Rrriiight. So. Care to explain how it is that a religion which has spent most of the past 3000+ years being persecuted is imperialist? What's that you say? You don't have one. That's what I thought.

Well, it's been fun. Come back when you grow out of this whole ultra-nationalist phase!

This person sounds like an Illuminatus to me! *panics*
Dont worry, you can trust us... (http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~villains/graphics/cancerman.jpg)

Considering that the only differences between Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, Stalin's Soviet Union, the People's Republic of China, and North Korea are who they blame and what they call themselves... yeah....

Fascism is out the door. Has been since Spain became a democracy. (Or maybe Thailand... can't remember which one was the last to have an out-and-out fascist government.) Internationalism and globalization are the future. The only thing that can or will be able to undo globalization would be a natural disaster on an order of magnitude no less than that which caused Noah to build his Ark: something humanity hasn't encountered since people started writing. And then, we'll all be royally fucked and we'll go back to what would essentially be a second dark age, into which we would regress back to tribalism and iron age technology.

Continues- However this time the entire world will discover metalurgy before pottery and it neccesarily follows that the industrial revolution will precede the inquisition (this time Tongan instead of Spanish). Many wars will be fought with cooking utensils until the day when the whole world will come together to agree that war is naughty. After they agree on this point, they will most likely do like adam when he ate his apple, and they will swallow their pride and set up a world parliament. Either that or the only other case is that the day after the day after tommorrow will bring forward a natural disaster that floods the world, by generating water from the vacuum energy of space-time. After then it's the feudal period all over agian, and from their it just gets silly.

Or perhaps I am being too speculative......

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Nothing, and I mean but nothing, can replace the Spanish Inquisition!

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Hemmel gooblestarfnedstalstak!
Gunter, ze Bastards haff pilferznied hor nom!
Wake Hitler!
Nein, he hasn't had his daily dose of Bulgarian, he vill be grumpy!

How do you do it Neo K?????



Meh, that's ridiculous.

Germany could have crushed the Western Allies without breaking a sweat if the USSR hadn't been there.
I disagree if Japan hadn't have been 'there' Canada wasn't mostly sitting on its hands waiting for a counter invasion of Europe all the Australian Forces and 4 New Zealand Divisions.
Germany lost somewhere between 75% and 90% of its total casualties on the Eastern Front. For elite units like the Division Großdeutschland the figure was more like 98%.
If you fight to the death or get cut off that is kind of the idea...
Where as many of the forces in the west were OstBattalions(Whatever) and were happy enough to surrender or shoot their German officers and then surrender and then joined up with The Polish Divisions..

On D-Day, 55% of the German military was deployed on the Eastern Front. 36% were deployed in occupied areas and 8% on all other fronts (like Africa). When the Allies landed, troops were taken from occupied areas, not the Eastern Front.
What possesions in Africa did Germany still hold after Torch, Pugalist, Supercharge II, Husky(Sicily) etc?
I think you might not have really comprehended the sheer scale of how things were done in the East.


+ The Western Allies also had forces in Italy and held some back forces to take Southern France.

Russia may have sufferd more casulties and inflicted more upon the enemy/ies but they couldn't have done it without the supplies we sent them to get them going.

The Allies had to supply many forces in many areas and so had to halt some operations.

I agree. Hitler could have had the world... But he opened up too many damn fronts at one time. If he faced England and the US, post D-day, (even with them in Africa too) They would have had a hell of a fight, but I beleive they would probably have thrown the allies right into the Atlantic. Then after establishing an effective Atlantic Wall, and with Africa fully secure, they could have waited a few yeras (1-5) They could have begun Barbarosa. With consolodated forces, Russia would have fallen. With Russia's vast oil possesions, Germany could have moved int the middle east, controlling the vast majority of the worlds oil. With this powering thier mighty panzers, they could have looked toward a "proper" invasion of the UK. With all this, I guarantee that Europe would still be in control of the Third Reich, with most of the Worlds Jewish population exterminated (along with cripples, mentally ill) Then, with Germany possesing vast resources, and also possesing the worlds most brilliant minds, super weapons would exist today, that we could not even imagine.

Likewise I am an unpolishable shit, or likewise as in ditto?
Likewise as in ditto.

Yeah, i felt the same way about the Valentines Day threads.

LMAO OK you got me roaring with laughter at 5.30am Well done!

That Empire was BRITISH, not English.

Besides Im anti-Empire, for Empires are multinational and multiracial.

The British Empire was one of the worst things for England, for it allowed us to lose our pure Anglo-Saxon culture even more than what we have already lost.

Ok Testing Testing

Define the following thou true fount of anglo-saxon blood and culture

Scip
Cnicht
Os
Ready
Boldin
scramasax
wer
ham
Tiew
domesday book

Exactly what is it in Anglo Saxon culture that you have lost that you pine for so?

Oh and there wasn't one Anglo-Saxon kingdom, there were seven kingdoms in what is now known as England, and I believe two were Danish.

Better than the poor excuse of an 'ideology' that is called 'democracy'.

Let's compare, shall we:

National Socialism

*Stable hard working government
*Brings the people and government together into a racially united society with no unrest or 'class' unrest.
*No corruption
*Justice against criminals
*Economic growth and zero unemployment
*Fighting against global Zionism and Jewish imperialism

Democracy

*Unstable incompetent government
*Divides people according to class, party affiliation etc...
*Corruption, lots of it
*No justice against criminals, high crime rates and victims suffer
*Unstable economies dependent of Jewish control of banking systems/institutions
*Forces nations to give up their freedom (UN/EU/WTO/IMF) and toe the line of the capital city of our Zionist occupied world, Tel Aviv

Yes, 'democracy' is great is it not.


F*** YOU YOU F***ING BASTARD:upyours:
Go to hell so yiou can have gay sex withg Hitler

Why don't you drop another two atom bombs on an almost defeated country that your 'brave' leaders are too chicken-shit to invade.

Japan was far from "almost defeated"
Almost everyone was given a gun, we might have actually lost if we had invaded any of the Islands. Just look at the massive caualties for the invasion of Okinawa. They where not "almost defeated"

[QUOTE][The Holocaust was still worse. (That's not saying much, though.)/QUOTE]

Most of the so-called evidence that is used to try and fool people into accepting the Holocaust as an absolut truth, is actually fabricated.

The Bolshevik hordes, otherwise known as the Russian 'Red Army' actually intituted a programme to build the alleged 'death camps' both in Poland, Germany and the terrorist criminal leader Tito did the same thing in Croatia, once the terrorists destroyed the Ustashe government in Zagreb.

Those people in those pictures we see, the starving skeletal 'Jewish' prisoners were actually brought over from the REAL death camps in the USSR.

For you see, the only holocaust that took place in Europe was that of the Jewish controlled Bolshevik criminals in Russia. 45 million people were killed by the Stalin regime, although the first death camps and the 'Red Army' were both set up in Russia during it's 1918-22 civil war by none other than the main Jewish figure in the criminal Bolshevik regime, Leon Trotsky.

Ahh, and then what do you make of the documentation by almost the entire 506th Airborne's E Company of a fairly large deathcamp. The entire company saw it, plus a few reporters who where travelling with the 506th

*The abolition of the UK. Scotland, Northen Ireland and Wales get their independence and a new English Nation is reborn.

*A process to resettle non Anglo-Saxons to their ancesteral homelands.



This is very tempting, because then The Celtic Armies can turn around, Invade England and destroy you, go for it

as for the removal, how the hell do you plan on doing this, everyone in England is a combination of everyone else, just in different porportions. The only greater melting pot is the United States (Yet I still managed by some freak of nature to be 100% celtic, how did that happen:confused: ), plus, you would need to give the vast majority of land back to the celts, those further weakening you, go for it.

Then when I go to Heaven, i can look down and laugh at you as you have gay sex with Hitler

Try again. Indo-Europeans and Celts is the single greatest ethnic division in Europe (apart from the Basques, maybe).

This is kinda weird Celts have spread farther and faster than any other group, from Central to eastern China, into India, North Africa, Most of Europe, and there have even been discoveries of what apear to be Celtic Masts in cuba (though not since after Colombus)

As for the Basques, not to be offensive, but there lineage is based more on Neanderthal Man, than Cro Magnom. Some university did a genetic study, and Basques turned out to be from outside the bottle neck that occured within the Cro Magnon when Yellowstone Volcano last blew, their genetic information in their Mitochondria was related more to Neanderthal specimens archaelogists have uncovered

They made it the most powerful empire for a huge span of time.
"The Sun never set on the British Empire"

note: it was the Normans who made England great, with out them, England would be part of a Celtic Confederation. Alfred the Great was only called Great, because he attacked and killed Angles and Saxons, and prevented the Danelaw from extending any farther south, get your facts right.

Look to the future, for it does belong to Fascism and nothing else.You know what we also call Nazis in Germany? "Die ewig Gestrigen" or "those eternally of yesterday".
At last Europe is returning to common sense for the Fascist movement is growing again.Really?
In Spain, high ranking military officers threaten to overthrow democracy via a military coup, over the socialist regimes plan to split Spain into regions by giving away Catalonia.The socialist "regimes" want to split up Spain?
In Croatia, the Ustashe movement is growing, despite decades of Titoite communist tyranny.Despite decades of non-Tito civil war and perhaps nearly a decade of peace?
Russia is seeing a growth in Nationalist movements and of Fascist ideas.I know. I saw an interesting thing where Russian Nazis praised the guys that tried to slaughter their ancestors. Delusion at its best.
Fascist movements grow in Poland.And you didn't name any of them.
Europeans, unlike brainwashed Americans, have started to see the light and drop this nonsense of democracy.Oh really?

At that rate, there won't even be any sparrows left.

Good, I hate sparrows

ROFLMAO!!!!

Provided they dropped so-called US 'culture' at the borders, for the US has no national culture, only decadence and a Jewish controlled media telling them that blowing up fireworks on the 4th of July and reading their 'constitution' in the classroom is somehow a culture."Culture isn't something you leave on your hearth to dust off when the in-laws come to visit. It's dynamic and it changes."
Or would you forsake such perverse foreign innovations such as the fork?

Then, Hitler and the Nazis took control of Germany.

They then annexed Austria, and not too long afterward, invaded Poland.

Then, he set his eyes on France, which got pwned fairly early in the war.

He then tried to defeat the British Air Force, and crippled the Luftwafe in the process.

Then, after needlesly declaring war on the United States, he losses North Africa to the Allies.

At around the same time, he invades Russia. Good choice, mien Furher.

Enter Russian winter and T-35s.

Then, the western allies land at Normandy, and eventually take back France.

He then wastes his experienced troops in a bid to push the allies back, even though his industrial base has been destroyed by Allied bombings.

Allies cross the Rhine, and approach the German heartland. Soon, the Eagle's Nest is captured and the 101st Airborne has a winefest in the ruins.

Russia captures Berlin and the brave Furher kills himself before Russian troops can reach him and pay him back.

What a wonderful leader. A thousand year Reich crushed in about 10 years.

Owned.

we need to give that winter a Congressional Medal Of Honor, It did more to destroy Germany than the tanks. if Hitler had listened to Napolean, he might not have had as big of a disaster, The Weather Factor illustrated this perfectly (Along with why Russia would never have Nuked Europe *small child looks up"What's that strange green cloud daddy?" "Why that is the radiation cloud from the Nukes we dropped on France my boy,")

Look to the future, for it does belong to Fascism and nothing else.

At last Europe is returning to common sense for the Fascist movement is growing again.

In Spain, high ranking military officers threaten to overthrow democracy via a military coup, over the socialist regimes plan to split Spain into regions by giving away Catalonia.

In Croatia, the Ustashe movement is growing, despite decades of Titoite communist tyranny.

Russia is seeing a growth in Nationalist movements and of Fascist ideas.

Fascist movements grow in Poland.

Europeans, unlike brainwashed Americans, have started to see the light and drop this nonsense of democracy.

If this ever happens (which it won't) then my Grandpa's Garand is polished and ready to stop you just like he did.

Although America had a major part in the fighting on the western front (deviding Geman attentions), our two largest contributions to the war in Europe was the bombing campaign, and supplying Russia with war material. The Russians then took those supplied and destroyed Nazi Germany.

don't forget the 101st, they and the 82nd messed up so much of the German lines, that Germany had no idea what the hell was going on, which turned attention away from the Eastern front, thus helping the soviets to better come together, and get their command lines straightened out.

the greatest contribution came from the partisans who just pwned the SS and every other Nazi out to kill them

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Better than the poor excuse of an 'ideology' that is called 'democracy'.

Let's compare, shall we:Let's see...

National SocialismExample in History that I will be dealing with: 3rd Reich.
*Stable hard working governmentSure. Hardworking. On things like having conferences on the destruction of an entire people while they're fighting a war (Wannsee Conference). And the many Nazi holiday resorts were all for working.
*Brings the people and government together into a racially united society with no unrest or 'class' unrest.Hm. Audiences getting to listen to a leadership figure occurs in Democracies too. The only way the government and the "people" got together in the 3rd Reich was by entering the only party there. What other countries do we know that only have one party?
*No corruption:D
Noooo... No corruption at all! All those private art collections, party members cramming everything they could get into cars and making a get away while they cheered the people stuck in the path of the enemy armies on to "Give their lives for the Führer."
And all because there are no checks and balances to allow people to corrupt eachother :rolleyes:
*Justice against criminals...and injustice to anyone else. The Nazis went by the maxime "Better imprison 10 innocents than let one guilty man get away." That would be fine with you up until the point that you'd be one of those 10 innocents. And this went for all things the Nazis considered "criminal". I've met a guy that got stuck into a concentration camp simply because he told SA men that he was a painter the day someone had painted "Down with Hitler" on a wall.
*Economic growth and zero unemploymentSure. Defecit spending. That's how Hitler financed his big "reforms". And sticking anyone without a job into a concentration camp on the grounds of them being "asocial" might be effective, but not enjoyable.
*Fighting against global Zionism and Jewish imperialism Always good to know that they're all against you. :rolleyes:

DemocracyGot plenty of examples for that one.
*Unstable incompetent governmentUhuh. Who won WWII? And who won the Cold War? But you're right: "Democracy is undoubtedly the worst of all forms of government except for the others that have been tried."
-Churchill
*Divides people according to class, party affiliation etc...Party affiliation? I'd say there's signs of it in the US, but I still get along fine with a lot of friends with different political ideas.
*Corruption, lots of itThe nice thing is, unlike in an Authoritarian state, the people on the street get to hear about it.
*No justice against criminals, high crime rates and victims sufferConsidering how many people winded up in concentration camps, the crime rates in the 3rd Reich must have been much higher...
*Unstable economies dependent of Jewish control of banking systems/institutionsNooo! Not the Jews again! Can you prove that there is a jewish conspiracy going on? Other than by denouncing any source proving you wrong as "jewish lies and propaganda"?
*Forces nations to give up their freedom (UN/EU/WTO/IMF) and toe the line of the capital city of our Zionist occupied world, Tel AvivHa!HAHAHAHA! That's just drole. The UN is the picture book example of Jewish dominance of our planet. The UN General Assembly is tricked into nearly unanimous votes against Israel every time; it's all part of their wicked plan! :rolleyes:
Yes, 'democracy' is great is it not.Be careful what you wish for... ;)

Yah....the Anglo-Saxon (Germanic) blood was corrupted by the Normans (Germanic)....sure (in case anyone doesn't know hes refering to the battle of Hastings). The UK is not near its extinction, and it has had the same democratic institutions (or near on them) through its entire period as empire, so where is the cause and effect relationship demonstrating this decline? How can the Zionists control Mr.Blair whne they can't even control Palestine? If the British really are having a hard time surviving, they could take a lesson from the Jews (who amazingly are around against the odds), start at circumcision. Just for shits and giggles, who has caused more chaos and suffering by their occupation of the world, a) the British, b) the Jews, c) the Samoans. As for you throwing off your racial enemies, one word: commonwealth. You brought them there, dipshit.

I'm half English, but call a spade black damn it.

Hastings, hehe, total pwnage
maybe i can convince Wiliam the Conquerer to come teach me his skills, i already have Patton and Knox in my contract
LOL

Then, Hitler and the Nazis took control of Germany.

They then annexed Austria, and not too long afterward, invaded Poland.

Then, he set his eyes on France, which got pwned fairly early in the war.

He then tried to defeat the British Air Force, and crippled the Luftwafe in the process.

Then, after needlesly declaring war on the United States, he losses North Africa to the Allies.

At around the same time, he invades Russia. Good choice, mien Furher.

Enter Russian winter and T-35s.

Then, the western allies land at Normandy, and eventually take back France.

He then wastes his experienced troops in a bid to push the allies back, even though his industrial base has been destroyed by Allied bombings.

Allies cross the Rhine, and approach the German heartland. Soon, the Eagle's Nest is captured and the 101st Airborne has a winefest in the ruins.

Russia captures Berlin and the brave Furher kills himself before Russian troops can reach him and pay him back.

What a wonderful leader. A thousand year Reich crushed in about 10 years.

Owned.

T-35's? Maybe you are talking about the T-34's.
Because the T35's were scrapped from the Russian Army by the end of 1941.

Anyway, I've founded a new movement: FUAZ.

that was dumb of u to make stupid post Neo Kervoskia...o well no offence meant...
Anyways, not all Germans/Austrians/etc think like Kravania so please dun get the wrong image. I personally think that facist governments suck...and so do communist ones (they never seem to work...). The British Empire wasnt good either with all that imperialist crap... (the nazis weren't the only ones to persecute jews though).

To say that the Allies could have one without the USSR is just bullshit. They USSR did a great deal and without them the Allies *might* have lost. Hitler was stupid too. He should've continued bombing military targets instead of bombing London because the English bombed Berlin. The Luftwaffe was crippled for the rest of the war. And then invading the USSR when Britain was still undefeated...oh god...

The Allies weren't much better either...bombing German cities with napalm was UNNECESSARY. Dropping the A-bombs was bad too... But i guess the nazis and the communists were still worse with all those mass executions...

Oh ya im half Austrian half Taiwanese so maybe that's why i dun agree with the racist stuff. Anyways, I'm a bit anti-US...I think the government is too corrupt. Democracy is good though. They should remove military conscription too.

GO AUSTRIA! YAY! and the flag rocks! (the eagle is so cooL! especially with those broken chains!)

I agree. Hitler could have had the world... But he opened up too many damn fronts at one time. If he faced England and the US, post D-day, (even with them in Africa too) They would have had a hell of a fight, but I beleive they would probably have thrown the allies right into the Atlantic. Then after establishing an effective Atlantic Wall, and with Africa fully secure, they could have waited a few yeras (1-5) They could have begun Barbarosa. With consolodated forces, Russia would have fallen. With Russia's vast oil possesions, Germany could have moved int the middle east, controlling the vast majority of the worlds oil. With this powering thier mighty panzers, they could have looked toward a "proper" invasion of the UK. With all this, I guarantee that Europe would still be in control of the Third Reich, with most of the Worlds Jewish population exterminated (along with cripples, mentally ill) Then, with Germany possesing vast resources, and also possesing the worlds most brilliant minds, super weapons would exist today, that we could not even imagine.

I would like to quote the princess bride for a moment here "And the second is getting involveed in a land war in Aisa"

the Russian winters would have Pwned him no matter what, just look at what happened to napolean when he tried to invade.

Not funny. Its spam to me.

go away unless you want to get pwned again

don't forget the 101st, they and the 82nd messed up so much of the German lines, that Germany had no idea what the hell was going on, which turned attention away from the Eastern front, thus helping the soviets to better come together, and get their command lines straightened out.

the greatest contribution came from the partisans who just pwned the SS and every other Nazi out to kill them

I was not forgetting the contributions of our ground forces, merely pointing out that suppling the Soviets, and bombing German industry had a more telling stategic effect. Our ground invasion of Europe served its purpose in distracting the German war machine, leaving it vulnerable to the Soviet ground invasion that destroyed the Third Riech. American efforts were concentrated in the Pacific theatre. (thats why the atomic bombs were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, not Berlin.)

Swilatia, isn't it suicidal to be a Pole and a Nazi?

come on people

Where is the love huh?

:fluffle:

I was not forgetting the contributions of our ground forces, merely pointing out that suppling the Soviets, and bombing German industry had a more telling stategic effect. Our ground invasion of Europe served its purpose in distracting the German war machine, leaving it vulnerable to the Soviet ground invasion that destroyed the Third Riech. American efforts were concentrated in the Pacific theatre. (thats why the atomic bombs were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, not Berlin.)
Not really. The maxime was: Germany first.
The reason the US didn't drop atom bombs on Germany was because VE day came sooner than expected. The bomb was intended for the Nazis, mainly because they were scrambling to get one too.

and we keep forgetting the partisans from the Soviet Union, they did an even better job at mucking up the german intellegence than the 101st, but the paratroopers are a fairly close second. Hitler's fall was due to his complete and utter idiocy again i quote the Princess Bride "The second is to get involved in a land war in Asia." those winters are way to cold.

Truman dropped the bombs on Japan because the Russians were just about to aid in the invasion. The dropping of the abomb was to show Stalin that the us didnt fuck around.

And hitler could of taken russia if he didnt over extend himself. if he kept the non-agression treaty with them until after crushing the uk, the united states would have no starting point in europe, they would have seen it as a losing battle and never involve themselves. with complete domiance in western europe hitler and a fully armored rested army he COULD do what neopolian could not. but patiance is what mattered, and hitler [spit] didnt have it.

no, he would have failed for the same reason tjat the short little Frenchman lost, the Winter. Russian winters have prevented 7 invasions. Until we are able to create specialize uniforms that can self heat to negate the winter, I would rather fight on Hoth, it may actually be warmer there.

no, he would have failed for the same reason tjat the short little Frenchman lost, the Winter. Russian winters have prevented 7 invasions. Until we are able to create specialize uniforms that can self heat to negate the winter, I would rather fight on Hoth, it may actually be warmer there.Urr... you are aware that there was no summer on the Russian sides of the lines?

Urr... you are aware that there was no summer on the Russian sides of the lines?

that is where you are wrong, Russia is a land of extremes, both politicaly and enviromentaly. The summers in Russia are blisteringly hot, arid, and dusty, the winter uniforms that Hitler had provided for his troops, where so heavy that they where discarded on the side of the road. those who knew of Napolean kept thiers. Then, almost instantly, it switched from summer to winter. those who kept their coats lived the longest, long enough to come home. those who dumped the coats died. Read The Weather Factor, it is the best example of what I am talking about "The Week the Panzers Froze."

that is where you are wrong, Russia is a land of extremes, both politicaly and enviromentaly. The summers in Russia are blisteringly hot, arid, and dusty, the winter uniforms that Hitler had provided for his troops, where so heavy that they where discarded on the side of the road. those who knew of Napolean kept thiers. Then, almost instantly, it switched from summer to winter. those who kept their coats lived the longest, long enough to come home. those who dumped the coats died. Read The Weather Factor, it is the best example of what I am talking about "The Week the Panzers Froze."
Romanians were provided with overcoats, cause the "Crusade against Bolshevism" was gonna be a summer thang. In Stalingrad, the Germans built piles of Romanians who would just die on the spot.

Romanians were provided with overcoats, cause the "Crusade against Bolshevism" was gonna be a summer thang. In Stalingrad, the Germans built piles of Romanians who would just die on the spot.

Durschmied, Erik, The Weather Factor, 2000, Ardace Publishing, New York
"The summer of 1941 was hot and dry, tempuratures soared way above 40*C, something the German Armies where unused to. Russia's roads were covered by fine dust which clogged radiators and air filters, overheated tank engines, and blistered the paint on the panzers. As in every war throughout the ages, the foot soldiers were the ones who suffered most, with blisters on their feet, and the insides of their thighs rubbed raw from sweat." (Durscmied, 173)

"The heat had other consequences, which where to prove of signifigant importance in the months ahead. Heavily loaded with all the paraphenalia of warfare - ammunition belts, machine guns and mortar tubes, medical supplies - any additional wheight slowed up the foot soldier. Many dumped their their cumbersome uniform greatcoats or field jackets and advanced in their shirt sleeves." (Durschmeid, 173-174)

For those of you familiar with *F, 40*C = 104*F

Durschmied, Erik, The Weather Factor, 2000, Ardace Publishing, New York
"The summer of 1941 was hot and dry, tempuratures soared way above 40*C, something the German Armies where unused to. Russia's roads were covered by fine dust which clogged radiators and air filters, overheated tank engines, and blistered the paint on the panzers. As in every war throughout the ages, the foot soldiers were the ones who suffered most, with blisters on their feet, and the insides of their thighs rubbed raw from sweat." (Durscmied, 173)

"The heat had other consequences, which where to prove of signifigant importance in the months ahead. Heavily loaded with all the paraphenalia of warfare - ammunition belts, machine guns and mortar tubes, medical supplies - any additional wheight slowed up the foot soldier. Many dumped their their cumbersome uniform greatcoats or field jackets and advanced in their shirt sleeves." (Durschmeid, 173-174)

Man, you misread my post. I was backing you up.

I was backing you up wth evidence, it is very common in policy debate

back to the discussion
according to Durschmeid,the winter tempurate was -40*F
the summer was 104*F
thts quite the swing

Better than the poor excuse of an 'ideology' that is called 'democracy'.

Let's compare, shall we:

National Socialism

*Stable hard working government
*Brings the people and government together into a racially united society with no unrest or 'class' unrest.
*No corruption
*Justice against criminals
*Economic growth and zero unemployment
*Fighting against global Zionism and Jewish imperialism

Democracy

*Unstable incompetent government
*Divides people according to class, party affiliation etc...
*Corruption, lots of it
*No justice against criminals, high crime rates and victims suffer
*Unstable economies dependent of Jewish control of banking systems/institutions
*Forces nations to give up their freedom (UN/EU/WTO/IMF) and toe the line of the capital city of our Zionist occupied world, Tel Aviv

Yes, 'democracy' is great is it not.

Well, Democracy does have some problems, but wasn't it Churchill who said "Democracy is the worst of all possible systems... except for all the others."?
And Zionist Imperialism? Please, that's making me laugh now too...

I did not find it funny.

Bestiality is disgusting and by associating bestiality with the National Socialist/Pan-European ethnic nationalist movement, your making an insult to those individuals who uphold those noble ideologies.

I'd rather screw a ewe than kill a jew any day.

Okay, I admit that I couldn't have sex with a ewe, out of anatomical difficulties. But ram doesn't ryhme with jew.

24-02-2006!

Gravedigging is bad, hmmkay?

*Hides shovel and calmly walks away*