NationStates Jolt Archive


ATF targetting women and minorities at gun shows.

Kecibukia
22-02-2006, 19:16
Thier reasoning "'If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's a duck. That's all we need."

4th Amendment be damned.


Congress Told of ATF Seizures, Threats to Gun Buyers
By Jeff Johnson
CNSNews.com Senior Staff Writer
February 17, 2006

(CNSNews.com) - Agents of the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), allegedly acting without warrants or legislative authority to do so, seized firearms from at least 50 gun show patrons in Virginia according to congressional testimony and an agency document made public Wednesday. Witnesses also testified that African-American and female gun buyers in Richmond, Va., and Pittsburgh, Pa., were profiled based on their race or sex and some in Pittsburgh were threatened with arrest by ATF agents for alleged actions that are not violations of law.


http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewSpecialReports.asp?Page=%5CSpecialReports%5Carchive%5C200602%5CSPE20060217a.html
Sdaeriji
22-02-2006, 19:30
Heh, firearms, targetting.... Punny.
Drunk commies deleted
22-02-2006, 19:32
Well you know all those black guys are just buying them for their gangs and all the women are buying guns for their gangster boyfriends. It's just a fact. All blacks are criminals and all women are easily manipulated idiots who fall for criminals.
Kecibukia
22-02-2006, 19:33
Well you know all those black guys are just buying them for their gangs and all the women are buying guns for their gangster boyfriends. It's just a fact. All blacks are criminals and all women are easily manipulated idiots who fall for criminals.

That's what the ATF seems to think. And still no cries of profiling from the NAACP or other "civil rights" groups. Shock.
Santa Barbara
22-02-2006, 19:35
Well you know all those black guys are just buying them for their gangs and all the women are buying guns for their gangster boyfriends. It's just a fact. All blacks are criminals and all women are easily manipulated idiots who fall for criminals.

You are so totally correct, but you have to realize it's not the criminals who are doing the manipulating. It's the guns! They do everything - kill, lie, manipulate, rape, steal, abuse drugs. FACT!
Sdaeriji
22-02-2006, 19:36
You are so totally correct, but you have to realize it's not the criminals who are doing the manipulating. It's the guns! They do everything - kill, lie, manipulate, rape, steal, abuse drugs. FACT!

Fact: Guns don't kill people. Chuck Norris kills people.
Drunk commies deleted
22-02-2006, 19:37
That's what the ATF seems to think. And still no cries of profiling from the NAACP or other "civil rights" groups. Shock.
Well at least they're not shooting into burning religious compounds or shooting women holding their babies lately. I guess racism is an improvement over baby killing.
Kecibukia
22-02-2006, 19:39
You are so totally correct, but you have to realize it's not the criminals who are doing the manipulating. It's the guns! They do everything - kill, lie, manipulate, rape, steal, abuse drugs. FACT!

It's from the mind control wave generators built into them by the ATF to justify thier existence.
Kecibukia
22-02-2006, 19:40
Well at least they're not shooting into burning religious compounds or shooting women holding their babies lately. I guess racism is an improvement over baby killing.

In thier defense. The specialists in "shooting women holding their babies" are under FBI jurisdiction.
Randomlittleisland
22-02-2006, 19:43
That's what the ATF seems to think. And still no cries of profiling from the NAACP or other "civil rights" groups. Shock.

Don't they tend to leave stuff like this to the NRA?
Jello Biafra
22-02-2006, 19:45
Ew, that stuff is happening here, how creepy.

It sort of makes me wonder if any type of gun control can be implemented or left in place without the authorities abusing it.
Kecibukia
22-02-2006, 19:47
Don't they tend to leave stuff like this to the NRA?


Normally. I feel it shows a bit of hypocrisy in this case as, even though it has to do w/ firearms, it is blatant racial profiling by a Gov't agency which is what these groups are supposed to be opposed to. If it were involving cars, say, you'ld have Jesse Jackson screaming from the rooftops.

Most of them have blatant anti-gun stances though so it shows where thier priorities are. Politics over ethics.
Kecibukia
22-02-2006, 19:47
Ew, that stuff is happening here, how creepy.

It sort of makes me wonder if any type of gun control can be implemented or left in place without the authorities abusing it.

Historically, no.
Kerubia
22-02-2006, 19:48
I'm all for gun control.

Use both hands!
Perkeleenmaa
22-02-2006, 20:34
Reinstituting slavery should end all this hypocrisy.
Kecibukia
22-02-2006, 20:39
Reinstituting slavery should end all this hypocrisy.
I don't think we need to go that far. Just bring back the original gun control laws barring blacks from owning. That should be enough.
Kecibukia
23-02-2006, 01:26
They're taking on weapon related profiling in Chicago.

http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/torino2006/speed_skating/news?slug=ap-spe-davislawsuit&prov=ap&type=lgns


Gold medalist Davis suing Chicago

By ANDREW SELIGMAN, AP Sports Writer

CHICAGO (AP) -- Olympic gold medal speedskater Shani Davis is one of four plaintiffs suing the city of Chicago and former police superintendent Terry Hillard, claiming they were stopped and searched for illegal weapons because of their skin color.

Davis, Quincy Joyner and Damien Joyner filed a lawsuit on March 24, 2003. A fourth plaintiff, Damane Grier, was added to the lawsuit a few months later. All four are from Chicago and are black.

Harvey Grossman, the director of American Civil Liberties Union of Illinois, said an inordinate number of blacks and Latinos are stopped on the street and searched for illegal weapons, and the organization wants police to document stops.