Which China do you recognize?
Sel Appa
22-02-2006, 01:55
This isn't a debate about Taiwan's quest for freedom. Just state your position and maybe why.
Crap, I forgot to make a poll...oh well.
Which do you recognize:
People's Republic of China
Republic of China
Both
Neither
PRC, but Taiwan is an autonomous province.
I go with the last one.
If this isn't a debate about tiwan, whats it about?
I support the right of all peoples to self-determination and democracy. I do not recognize any state as legitimate.
Sdaeriji
22-02-2006, 01:57
The People's Republic of China. Unless we're in the habit of recognizing the losers of civil wars.
Potarius
22-02-2006, 01:57
I support the right of all peoples to self-determination and democracy. I do not recognize any state as legitimate.
*applauds*
Europa Maxima
22-02-2006, 01:57
I support the right of all peoples to self-determination and democracy. I do not recognize any state as legitimate.
Anarcho-capitalist?
If this isn't a debate about tiwan, whats it about?
Taiwan means to be an independent state: i.e., not "Would-be China". That is why the Guomindang in Taiwan and the PRC seem to get along as of late.
Anyway, I support the PRC.
Anarcho-capitalist?
Libertarian socialist.
I probably should clarify that with "any currently existing state," in the realm of theory I can come up with a few models that I would be willing to accept.
Neu Leonstein
22-02-2006, 01:58
I recognise both. I don't recognise the right of the US to interfere though, because although they are both political entities, they are still one people.
Super-power
22-02-2006, 01:58
Both, though I give slightly more regard towards the Republic of China
Neo Kervoskia
22-02-2006, 01:59
I recognise the Zhou Empire in China.
Europa Maxima
22-02-2006, 02:02
Libertarian socialist.
I probably should clarify that with "any currently existing state," in the realm of theory I can come up with a few models that I would be willing to accept.
I'll make a thread on Libertarianism later because I have LOADS of questions on it. It isn't really on topic here.
Ashmoria
22-02-2006, 02:02
well gee, since not even taiwan recognizes itself as the real china anymore, i guess ill have to go with the people's republic.
isnt this a debate whose ship sailed about 57 years ago?
Fleckenstein
22-02-2006, 02:02
The People's Republic of China. Unless we're in the habit of recognizing the losers of civil wars.
here's looking at you, CSA!
I recognise the Zhou Empire in China.
The Ming were much cooler.
New Genoa
22-02-2006, 02:06
Neither. US of A should own China.
seriously lets take a vote, who actually cares about how china views itself?
We'll be invading them in the next 5-100 years (assuming they continue gaining power)
seriously lets take a vote, who actually cares about how china views itself?
We'll be invading them in the next 5-100 years (assuming they continue gaining power)
No, we won't. Too many economic ties, and nuclear war is not a pleasant prospect for either ruling class.
Kievan-Prussia
22-02-2006, 02:18
Republic of China (Taiwan). Fucking communists in the mainland.
both of them. i recognize p.r.c. AS china (but NOT it's claim to Tibet). Formosa i recognize as the independent nation of Formosa. Not as china. Not as part of china. Not as legitimately having a damd thing to do with china, but as Formosa, it's own nation in and of itself.
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I recognize both. China's claim to Taiwan is very weak, so I don't think they are the legitimate occupier of the Island. I think both Chinas will be integral to the future economic development and health of the United States as well as a valuable ally...if we continue to build ties with China we may be able to elicit the democratization and opening of the society, which would be a great accomplishment.