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Ok, since I've seen even here now one of these really spineless apologies, of which there are so many lately, just because people are afraid that something bad would happen to them otherwise, I'm now officially totally fed up to the back teeth with this nonsense! :mad:

Geez, people, is it that difficult to show some backbone!? :rolleyes:
That's just what they want to achieve, having you groveling down to their feet in fear of possible consequences! We must not let this happen! Don't give any more power to these fearmongers, thus:

NO spineless apologies anymore! :sniper: :gundge: :mad:

Hallelujah. Someone has sense. Maybe we should have a thread about apologies for not saying something?


I'M NOT GOING TO APOLOGIZE TO ANYONE! OK!

And to anyone who wants me to apologize

Edited out for the privilege of some viewer.

and so forth.

I'm so sorry.... I didn't mean to offend you.

Whoa, man - where did that just come from?

Yes, because we don't want the extremists to look bad or to admit that, hey, they might be wrong in believing Islam to be the evil, hate-mongering religion that they wrongly believe it to be.

I'm fuckin' sorry, ya bastard!

Is that better? :)

Well I for one never apologise. I'm sorry, but that's just the way I am.

Put a little more spine into it Lunatic Golfballs. You only used half of it.

I'M NOT GOING TO APOLOGIZE TO ANYONE! OK!
AND I'M NOT GOING TO APOLOGIZE FOR TYPING IN THIS HUGE OBNOXIOUS FONT EITHER!!! WOOT FOR ME

AND I'M NOT GOING TO APOLOGIZE FOR TYPING IN THIS HUGE OBNOXIOUS FONT EITHER!!! WOOT FOR ME

It dosn't matter. Noones been pressing you about how your view is wrong. Even if they might be, you're still wrong.

Uh... apologise for what?

But would be such a heinous crime to apologise for something if, by some strange quirk of fate, you found out you were wrong?

We're sorry Mrs Menzies, but we shot your son. We thought he was a terrorist, but we turned out to be wrong. We were confused because he was wearing a puffer jacket menacingly. Oh, and he jumped an Underground gate, so that makes it alright... hey, remind me why we're apologising. YOU were the one who bore this guy who we shot, and whose death is most likely to cause one of our collegues some trauma syndrome. I demand an apology Mrs Menzies!

It dosn't matter. Noones been pressing you about how your view is wrong. Even if they might be, you're still wrong.

I would like to apologize in advance for whatever I'm going to do wrong.

And themoral of that story is??????

I have two rules of life which have worked very well for me:

#1: Morals are usually uneffective. Even if they are told in cool stories, they're still stories.

#2: Ethics. A waste of time. Civilisation and civilised society do not need ethics to evolve.

Menezes.

EDIT:

Morals and ethics help prevent us from being evil twats. Well, some of us.

*glare*

I would like to apologize in advance for whatever I'm going to do wrong.

Don't bother apologizing at all. If it's spineless it's not worth doing.

Don't bother apologizing at all. If it's spineless it's not worth doing.

Yes, Yes!

Never apologise! Never admit you were wrong! Even if you are spouting hate-filled propaganda and inciting racial hatred, never surrender! Even if you realise you were wrong and realise what you were saying is complete bullshit, never ever admit it!

NO spineless apologies anymore! :sniper: :gundge: :mad:
Huh? WTF, over? I don't see anything wrong with apologizing if you honestly think you need to. Actually, it often takes considerable courage to apologize. I say:

If you feel the need to apologize, then DO so!

Ok, since I've seen even here now one of these really spineless apologies, of which there are so many lately, just because people are afraid that something bad would happen to them otherwise, I'm now officially totally fed up to the back teeth with this nonsense! :mad:

Geez, people, is it that difficult to show some backbone!? :rolleyes:
That's just what they want to achieve, having you groveling down to their feet in fear of possible consequences! We must not let this happen! Don't give any more power to these fearmongers, thus:

NO spineless apologies anymore! :sniper: :gundge: :mad:

Uhh, 'scuze me?
apologies for what? I don't get it, what are you talking about? Or are you just talking in general?

Yes, Yes!

Never apologise! Never admit you were wrong! Even if you are spouting hate-filled propaganda and inciting racial hatred, never surrender! Even if you realise you were wrong and realise what you were saying is complete bullshit, never ever admit it!

Isn't it funny how when you're being sarcastic you're actually mostly right?

Please use more sarcasm.

Morals and ethics help prevent us from being evil twats. Well, some of us.

*glare*

MmmmHmmm. I judge scientifc progress more important than namby pamby bureacracy. Culture and individuality is unnecessary. Bring on the faceless Mass.

Uhh, 'scuze me?
apologies for what? I don't get it, what are you talking about? Or are you just talking in general?

Someone apologizing after being pressured by the deluded majority.
There's a thread somewhere. Have a look.

Someone apologizing after being pressured by the deluded majority.
There's a thread somewhere. Have a look.

The majority is not 'deluded', the minority is for believing Islam is comprised of angry extremists who hate the West. Also, did you even read SBs post? He wasn't pressured, he listened to a Muslim and read texts about Islam.

Don't bother apologizing at all. If it's spineless it's not worth doing.

It's only spineless if you are apologizing for doing nothing. Some will do that just to appease someone while thinking "What the hell did I do?" But if you actually said or did something stupid, offending or such then apologizing is the right thing to do.

Unless you want to be an ass. :rolleyes:

Someone apologizing after being pressured by the deluded majority.
There's a thread somewhere. Have a look.

What's wrong with apologizing?
When you hurt someone's feelings without realising it... is it so wrong to apologise? Or if you can prevent people being killed simply by apologising is that so wrong?
Or is your sense of honour more important then people's lives?

MmmmHmmm. I judge scientifc progress more important than namby pamby bureacracy. Culture and individuality is unnecessary. Bring on the faceless Mass.

you can't have scientific progress without individuality, it requires ingenuity - not something you get in a 'faceless Mass'. Besides, scientific determinism is just as bad as any other kind of fundamentalism, religious or otherwise - placing trust exclusively in one doctrine to answer the problems of the world will inevitably produce squewed results. There is always more than one side to a problem and therefore always more than one feasible solution.

and as for the apologizing thing - never apologizing despite being obviously wrong is just the most ridiculous thing. do you think science would have progressed like it has if scientists who were proved wrong never admitted it and carried on teaching erroneous theories and such like? similarely, if no-one ever apologised in politics even in the roundabout halfarsed way of politicians the world would be in chaos - in fact we'd probably all be dead cuz something like the cuban missile crisis would have happened and not been evaded ages ago.

If you do something wrong and you genuinely feel sorry, you should apologise. If you say something asinine and you find out you're wrong, you should apologise or at least own up to your mistake.

However, I refuse to apologise if I don't feel I'm in the wrong. I got over that behaviour when I was 16.

I am sorry you're so angry.

I am sorry that you are young and immature.

Feel better now?

I am sorry.....

If you do something wrong and you genuinely feel sorry, you should apologise. If you say something asinine and you find out you're wrong, you should apologise or at least own up to your mistake.

However, I refuse to apologise if I don't feel I'm in the wrong. I got over that behaviour when I was 16.

I've also deleted those handy but offensive emoticons after viewing your complaint.

No more spineless analogies either.
"Islam is like a thing that is nice", what the fuck does that even mean?
Tell us what you really think, or think of something that you want to tell us. At least, I think that is what I mean.

you can't have scientific progress without individuality, it requires ingenuity - not something you get in a 'faceless Mass'. Besides, scientific determinism is just as bad as any other kind of fundamentalism, religious or otherwise - placing trust exclusively in one doctrine to answer the problems of the world will inevitably produce squewed results. There is always more than one side to a problem and therefore always more than one feasible solution.

and as for the apologizing thing - never apologizing despite being obviously wrong is just the most ridiculous thing. do you think science would have progressed like it has if scientists who were proved wrong never admitted it and carried on teaching erroneous theories and such like? similarely, if no-one ever apologised in politics even in the roundabout halfarsed way of politicians the world would be in chaos - in fact we'd probably all be dead cuz something like the cuban missile crisis would have happened and not been evaded ages ago.

Individuality seems to be the cause of many problems in the world.

Getting rid of it means that all the people would follow one simple way of life.

Maybe you could have a council controlling the peoples mass individuality to make the world more efficient?

A bit like the file, "Equilibrium"

Ok, since I've seen even here now one of these really spineless apologies, of which there are so many lately, just because people are afraid that something bad would happen to them otherwise, I'm now officially totally fed up to the back teeth with this nonsense! :mad:

Geez, people, is it that difficult to show some backbone!? :rolleyes:
That's just what they want to achieve, having you groveling down to their feet in fear of possible consequences! We must not let this happen! Don't give any more power to these fearmongers, thus:

NO spineless apologies anymore! :sniper: :gundge: :mad:
huh? examples? (read: WTF?:confused: )


but you got to remember, in debate - even here - people have feelings that can be hurt. the apologies of which you moan about may be due to that and not necessarily 'fear of possible concequences'

Ok, since I've seen even here now one of these really spineless apologies, of which there are so many lately, just because people are afraid that something bad would happen to them otherwise, I'm now officially totally fed up to the back teeth with this nonsense! :mad:

Geez, people, is it that difficult to show some backbone!? :rolleyes:
That's just what they want to achieve, having you groveling down to their feet in fear of possible consequences! We must not let this happen! Don't give any more power to these fearmongers, thus:

NO spineless apologies anymore! :sniper: :gundge: :mad:
It takes a lot of courage to admit ones mistakes openly and freely, and it takes a lot of humility to ask for forgiveness for those mistakes.

To suggest that someones apology is somehow spineless, leads me believe that you will never understand courage, nor humility, and if you do, it will be a very painful experience.

If you don't like someone apologizing that would be your problem and not theirs.

Huh? WTF, over? I don't see anything wrong with apologizing if you honestly think you need to. Actually, it often takes considerable courage to apologize. I say:

If you feel the need to apologize, then DO so!
Well, at least we can reach agreement on some things. :D

I think that the reaction to the comics by those muslims involved in the protests only serves to prove the comics right. Islam is a religion of peace? Regulate yourselves then. Don't go screaming bloody murder at the people who printed the comics just because it causes such an uproar, go screaming bloody murder at the dumb pricks that are uproaring. THEY'RE the ones killing people. So what if muslims say the caricatures are blasphemous. Its not bloody muslims that did the cartoons!

Get over yourselves. Trying to 'understand' the cause for everything works both ways. OMG THEY MADE THE COMICS. OMG YOU BOMBED AN ARMY BARRACKS! Its all about generalities. 'The West' made the comics. 'Muslims' are terrorists... p.s. 'The West' = 1 Danish newspaper and 'Muslims' = extremists, but nobody ever stops to think about that bit, don't they?

Free Speech versus Thin Skin. I say you don't get to claim righteous indignation at the picture of Muhammad, which if I understand correctly there is no scripture actually detailing this taboo unless somebody added it as a footnote to the back of the book, when protestors are murdering children over mere applications of ink to paper.

That's my stand, I won't apologize. I don't claim to blame the lot of the muslims for the deaths caused by the protests, but I do claim to blame the lot of them for being more pissed about the comics than the deaths being committed by their ilk in response.

Well I for one never apologise. I'm sorry, but that's just the way I am.
Too funny!! :cool:

Too funny!! :cool:
Don't blame him. Apology is suicide.

Don't blame him. Apology is suicide.
You are entitled to your opinion however wrong it may be, and I wasn't blaming him at all but making comment on his obviously humorous satire.

Individuality seems to be the cause of many problems in the world.

Getting rid of it means that all the people would follow one simple way of life.

Maybe you could have a council controlling the peoples mass individuality to make the world more efficient?

A bit like the file, "Equilibrium"

what problems would they be? from where i stand it seems mass movements cause most of the problems

what problems would they be? from where i stand it seems mass movements cause most of the problems

Nonono, you've clearly got it wrong - it's individual people that riot and burn down buildings and loot etc etc, not faceless mobs - they're innocent. Now refuse to apologise for being so wrong! :D (j/k btw, just in case you missed that lol)

It takes far more backbone to apologize when one was wrong than to blindly hold one opinion out of fear of being 'spineless,' or doing exactly what 'they' want you to.

Ah yes. Canadianism. Gotta love it

It takes far more backbone to apologize when one was wrong than to blindly hold one opinion out of fear of being 'spineless,' or doing exactly what 'they' want you to.

Your opinion anyway.

Your opinion anyway.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.
For?

Your opinion anyway.

Nope, pretty much the truth. Though I'm quite sorry we had to disagree.:p

Nope, pretty much the truth. Though I'm quite sorry we had to disagree.:p
I am sorry you had to agree.

This thread gets a big ole WTF award from me.

Apologize or don't, dude.

Amen to heavenly sex. In both ways.

I don't apologize for anything. I'm sorry, but that's just the way it is.

I don't apologize for anything. I'm sorry, but that's just the way it is.
Amen to drunken commies deleted althoguh I'd prefer sober commies alive

What the hell is this thread talking about?

What the hell is this thread talking about?
By the looks of it, not much.

Hallelujah. Someone has sense. Maybe we should have a thread about apologies for not saying something?


I'M NOT GOING TO APOLOGIZE TO ANYONE! OK!

And to anyone who wants me to apologize

Edited out for the privilege of some viewer.

and so forth.
So what am i to make of this, then?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10467650&postcount=324
Better edit Straughn?

Now you're just confusing people ! :D
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No more spineless analogies either.
"Islam is like a thing that is nice", what the fuck does that even mean?
Tell us what you really think, or think of something that you want to tell us. At least, I think that is what I mean.
This? From YOU?
Wahahahahahaha! Sincerity?
WHAhahahahhahaha*snort*hahahahaha

What's wrong with apologizing?
When you hurt someone's feelings without realising it... is it so wrong to apologise? Or if you can prevent people being killed simply by apologising is that so wrong?
Or is your sense of honour more important then people's lives?
Could be a Bush fan. *nods solemnly*

Could be a Bush fan. *nods solemnly*
You probably missed it, but I've admitted I was incorrect about a few things on this forum, and changed my views on some things.

But that was Cat-Tribe talking to me.

And when was the last time you apologized or admitted you were wrong on this forum? Not that I've been checking or anything. Just curious.

Amen to heavenly sex. In both ways.
The post, the implication of the poster's name, or the poster his/herself?
:confused:

Oh well.
Here, merrily ...:

I'm Sorry
(King Missile)

"No I never was in vietnam
I never once dove into an empty swimming pool
I never let the carpet walk right out from under me
I never painted a house or a tree
I never did become an exotic dancer or a customer service representative
I never took the pulse of a dying duck
Or gave mouth to mouth resusitation to a horsefly
In a way I spose you could say my experience is quite limited
For example,
I never locked Oliver Cromwell in a brrom closet while singing Waltzing
Matilda
I never sawed a television in half
Although I once saw Wendy O'Williams saw a guitar
I never played a decent game of jacks
I never played poker with a toothless one eyed pirate who kept picking his
teeth with a bowie knife to distract me while his parrot looked over my
shoulder and told him what cards I had by using an elaborate code involving
vomiting, chirping and sea shanties
I never bought a lamp
Wait I did buy a lamp once
But I never bought a lantern or a lambskin profolactic
I never bought lima beans or lime pudding
I never bought a lion or a Lionel Richie album
I never bought anything beginning with the letter "L"
Except lollipops, lightbulbs and lettuce ... and the lamp
I never layed down for a nap and found the Everly brotehrs in bed with me
I never let a cyborg take out the garbage
I'm sorry I stole the radio
I did it
I sawed the legs off the periodic table
I re-elected the President
I did it, it was my fault
I farted in the church
I'm sorry I did many many bad things
And I am so sorry"
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Hope that clears it up, Peechland and others ... :D

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Hope that clears it up, Peechland and others ... :D


Thank you my friend. It is finally clear to me.

You probably missed it, but I've admitted I was incorrect about a few things on this forum, and changed my views on some things.No, i haven't even brought you up on this thread. You seriously didn't even cross my mind, to my knowledge. I thought Evil Little Girls was talking about Imperiux or Heavenly Sex. I have no conscious recollection of your involvement whatsoever. And i agree with your presentation of yourself, i haven't tried to incite argument or flames or anything with you in quite a while. I figured you'd noticed. I do appreciate it, and i'll further qualify that here by saying that i've enjoyed your posts a lot more of late.

But that was Cat-Tribe talking to me. Okay. (?)

And when was the last time you apologized or admitted you were wrong on this forum? Not that I've been checking or anything. Just curious.
No, you're right, i choose my battles carefully, and rarely change my mind.
An example, though, is a thread that was talking about Minoriteeburg's "20 Little-known facts about U.S. Presidents" thread (?) where i mistakenly said "Taft" instead of "Grant"'s visage, referring to $50 bills.
And, i mistakenly asserted that Drunk Commies Deleted was joined at the hip with JesusSaves. I apologized for both.
I might even have apologized for other things. My recollection is spotty right now, though since i'm distractO3d by SciFi Channel's rerun of Galactica 1980. Funny lines, funny when Nazis get flung out windows. But i'm not sure if i like it or not like i did the first time i watched, in 1980 or so. *shrugs*
.

It should be mandatory that if someone wrongs you, they have to bake you cookies and bring them to your door. That's much better than a spineless apology, no?

It should be mandatory that if someone wrongs you, they have to bake you cookies and bring them to your door. That's much better than a spineless apology, no?
I don't know. If someone really offends you it's kinda satisfying to tear out their spine and make them apologize.

Thank you my friend. It is finally clear to me.
Brick Tamland: I love... carpet.
[pause]
Brick Tamland: I love... desk.
Ron Burgundy: Brick, are you just looking at things in the office and saying that you love them?
Brick Tamland: I love lamp.
Ron Burgundy: Do you really love the lamp, or are you just saying it because you saw it?
Brick Tamland: I love lamp! I love lamp.

I don't know. If someone really offends you it's kinda satisfying to tear out their spine and make them apologize.


Well, ok yes. Thats true. But I do usually make those who receive the wrath of Peech bake some sort goody for me after I've mopped the floor with them.

Yes, because we don't want the extremists to look bad or to admit that, hey, they might be wrong in believing Islam to be the evil, hate-mongering religion that they wrongly believe it to be.
Why would the extremists believe their own religion to be evil?

I'm so sorry.... I didn't mean to offend you.
Lol, you may well be in a position to win the thread!

Ok, since I've seen even here now one of these really spineless apologies, of which there are so many lately, just because people are afraid that something bad would happen to them otherwise, I'm now officially totally fed up to the back teeth with this nonsense! :mad:

Geez, people, is it that difficult to show some backbone!? :rolleyes:
That's just what they want to achieve, having you groveling down to their feet in fear of possible consequences! We must not let this happen! Don't give any more power to these fearmongers, thus:

NO spineless apologies anymore! :sniper: :gundge: :mad:

I'm sorry that you feel that way.

Why would the extremists believe their own religion to be evil?


Lol, you may well be in a position to win the thread!

Sorry, I meant anti-Islamic extremists looking bad.

I for one, never apoligize.

YEAH YEAH YEAH HARDCORE! BODY COUNT! KILL THEM ALL! LET GOD SORT THEM OUT!

ps, i do not believe in a particulare god...that is a cool fraze tho.:sniper: :headbang: :mp5: :fluffle: :mad: :mad: :mad: :gundge: :mad:

YEAH YEAH YEAH HARDCORE! BODY COUNT! KILL THEM ALL! LET GOD SORT THEM OUT!

ps, i do not believe in a particulare god...that is a cool fraze tho.:sniper: :headbang: :mp5: :fluffle: :mad: :mad: :mad: :gundge: :mad:
You shore gotta purty mouth ...

So what possessed you to take on that particular nom de plume? Ned Beatty fan? Or inbred hick fan?

What the hell is this thread talking about?
I'm sorry you don't understand.

You shore gotta purty mouth ...

So what possessed you to take on that particular nom de plume? Ned Beatty fan? Or inbred hick fan?

You know, they filmed that about 70 miles from where I live. *shudder*

You know, they filmed that about 70 miles from where I live. *shudder*
At least you've got some good scenery!
Well, they filmed that movie about "Timothy Treadwell" (not his real name) they've been showing on The Discovery Channel a bunch lately, up here in AK - but to be sure there's not a lot of agreeable foxes and "friendly" bears to be found. And an awful lot of us don't live in igloos either. ;)

You know, they filmed that about 70 miles from where I live. *shudder*
Remind me never to go canoeing anywhere near your neighborhood.

I'm sorry I read through this thread. ;)

Remind me never to go canoeing anywhere near your neighborhood.

Bring your jammy. And bug repellant.

Unless you want to be an ass. :rolleyes:

What's wrong with that? :p

I'm sorry I read through this thread. ;)

I'm sorry you're sorry you read through this thread.

Don't bother apologizing at all. If it's spineless it's not worth doing.
I'd rather a person admitted to their mistake and learnt from it than apologising. Apologies are pretty much worthless to me, at least in most cases. If you are mistaken, adapt.

I'M NOT GOING TO APOLOGIZE TO ANYONE! OK!

CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR THE COOL.

Amirite?

:rolleyes:

No, i haven't even brought you up on this thread. You seriously didn't even cross my mind, to my knowledge. I thought Evil Little Girls was talking about Imperiux or Heavenly Sex. I have no conscious recollection of your involvement whatsoever. And i agree with your presentation of yourself, i haven't tried to incite argument or flames or anything with you in quite a while. I figured you'd noticed. I do appreciate it, and i'll further qualify that here by saying that i've enjoyed your posts a lot more of late.
He has probably upgraded his meds? :D

CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR THE COOL.

Amirite?

:rolleyes:

replace cool with fool and thats pretty much it.

unless ive missunderstood the post? (ive only just finished work and im a bit tipsy so my mind is fairly dead :D)

replace cool with fool and thats pretty much it.

unless ive missunderstood the post? (ive only just finished work and im a bit tipsy so my mind is fairly dead :D)
:D

You got the right idea.

Well... I certainly didn't bother reading this entire thread...

This sort of extremism is equivalent to that shown by the fundamentalist Muslims who refuse to back down and try to expand their horizons, instead losing themselves to violence. Might I add, those fundamentalist extremists are the minority... thank all things holy and good.

This is obviously a case of stupid people making other stupid people angry, and the cycle spirals out of control.

He has probably upgraded his meds? :D
Well, if the pix tell us anything, i'm going with the idea that his aim is improving. *nods* :D

I got a cynical suspicion ... for a brief flicker ... that he's up'd his status to "puppet adept", and wasn't keeping track of his publishing name. Perish the thought ...