NationStates Jolt Archive

Nazis has the swastika and Horst Wessel Lied.

Soviets had the Hammer and Sickle and their Hymn.

East Germany didn't have a good symbol, but they had a neat anthem.

Soviets are bad guys? Well, yeah, but they did beat the rest of the world into space! And the hammer and sickle is the only reason why I like them.

Propaganda to use on the people.

Nazis has the swastika and Horst Wessel Lied.

Soviets had the Hammer and Sickle and their Hymn.

East Germany didn't have a good symbol, but they had a neat anthem.

And the Europeans have...coloured stripes. Fun.

Yea and don't forget Canada.

Those Canucks and their "Maple Leaf" and "O Canada", you just know their planning something.

Yea and don't forget Canada.

Those Canucks and their "Maple Leaf" and "O Canada", you just know their planning something.
Planned, we already know who we are going to do what we have planned.

Yea and don't forget Canada.

Those Canucks and their "Maple Leaf" and "O Canada", you just know their planning something.

And don't forget the beavers. Even though they do billions of dollars in damage each year, we still somehow worship them like god.

La Marseillaise is pretty stirring. Last I looked the french were still in the 'probationary good' catagory.

I always found the whole nazi design ethos a little drab - too much black. I didn't care for the music either.

It comes from having a failed artist madman as a leader I suppose.

BTW, I always prefered the Internationale to the Hymn of the Soviet Union.

At least the United States has the bald eagle. Now that's a kick ass bird!

At least the United States has the bald eagle. Now that's a kick ass bird!

We should pit a beaver against a bald eagle one day and see who would win. My money's on the beaver.

And the Europeans have...coloured stripes. Fun.

Colored stripes? Isn't that the Gay Pride flag? :confused:

We should pit a beaver against a bald eagle one day and see who would win. My money's on the beaver.

No way man, the Bald Eagle could just swoop down, sinks it claws into the beaver and drag it away to it's nest, where it could shread it apart!

Colored stripes? Isn't that the Gay Pride flag? :confused:

I would laugh my ass off if that's the EU new flag. I dunno, I would just find that extremely funny. (sorry, weird sense of humor).

No way man, the Bald Eagle could just swoop down, sinks it claws into the beaver and drag it away to it's nest, where it could shread it apart!

Benjamin Franklin wanted the national animal to be the Turkey.

Benjamin Franklin wanted the national animal to be the Turkey.

That because he suck eggs. I wonder if they had a fight between a turkey and the Bald Eagle and the Bald Eagle won.

No way man, the Bald Eagle could just swoop down, sinks it claws into the beaver and drag it away to it's nest, where it could shread it apart!
The do you know how much a beaver weighs? Much more than a coconut. Besides, beavers are fond of conselling moose in their pelts. While the eagle is swooping down, it could end up with moose horn in the wazzoo.

No way man, the Bald Eagle could just swoop down, sinks it claws into the beaver and drag it away to it's nest, where it could shread it apart!

nah, the beaver's vicious. It will probably be able to build a dam to protect itself before the eagle even finishes swooping.

nah, the beaver's vicious. It will probably be able to build a dam to protect itself before the eagle even finishes swooping.

I doubt a beaver could build a dam that fast. And to the pelts, comon, the Eagle could take evasive action and beside the eagle has quicker reaction!

I doubt a beaver could build a dam that fast. And to the pelts, comon, the Eagle could take evasive action and beside the eagle has quicker reaction!

But beavers can swim. let's see the eagle survive underwater trying to go after the beaver.

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm turkey.

Bald eagles are much cooler and less... eatable.

But beavers can swim. let's see the eagle survive underwater trying to go after the beaver.

Hey, the beaver has to come up for air sometimes!

*watches with amusement while this thread sinks into an utterly pointless, yet hilarious debate*

Hey, the beaver has to come up for air sometimes!
The beaver could just hide out in a prebuilt dam. Then it can make all sorts of harpoon-like weapons out of moose antlers.

The beaver could just hide out in a prebuilt dam. Then it can make all sorts of harpoon-like weapons out of moose antlers.

The Eagle could grab the beaver, and just drop it on a bunch of rocks thus injuring it, and then coming back to do it again to weaken the beaver.

I've actually wondered that before.....the nazi military uniforms were nice looking too. I wish the US-American uniforms looked sharp like that. Our marines uniform isn't terrible (the pants don't match), but the nazi grey officer uniform, seen in "Enemy at the Gates" is cool looking. Great coats are also sweet. Why do the baddies get the good gear?

At least the United States has the bald eagle. Now that's a kick ass bird!

When you can find one......

The Eagle could grab the beaver, and just drop it on a bunch of rocks thus injuring it, and then coming back to do it again to weaken the beaver.
But the eagle would have to see the beaver first. Have you ever seen a beaver before? Of course not. Beavers have developed the perfect camoflauge. The only reason someone has ever seen a beaver is because the bevears wanted to be seen. The eagle would be busy trying to find the beaver, then boom! moose antler up the wazzoo.

But the eagle would have to see the beaver first. Have you ever seen a beaver before? Of course not. Beavers have developed the perfect camoflauge. The only reason someone has ever seen a beaver is because the bevears wanted to be seen. The eagle would be busy trying to find the beaver, then boom! moose antler up the wazzoo.

LOL!

Man, now I really do want to see this fight! We should get a Beaver and a bald Eagle together to see what happens.

Soviets are bad guys? Well, yeah, but they did beat the rest of the world into space! And the hammer and sickle is the only reason why I like them.
:headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

Yes, they were, and still are, the Evil Empire. Don't let that whole "collapse" of the Soviet Union fool you. The rest of the country is still very organized and Anti-American (ask the Arabs in Russia) that would like to take out anything expressing true freedom. Ask the Danish cartoonist now in hiding. Russia SUPPORTS Iran and other Islamic nations. Someday they will find themselves saying "Oh come on guys! (meaning the rest of the world) They're not THAT bad-- OW!! (suddenly there's a great big hook in their nose) OW OW OW OW OW OW OW OW!!!"

It's because bad guys can say "write/design a great song/symbol or I'll kill you and your entire family."

It's because bad guys can say "write/design a great song/symbol or I'll kill you and your entire family."
Oddly enough, that's kinda how I got my last tatoo designed. I stood there with a knife to the throat of the tattoo artists beaver.

When you can find one......

Go to Alaska.

:headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

Yes, they were, and still are, the Evil Empire. Don't let that whole "collapse" of the Soviet Union fool you. The rest of the country is still very organized and Anti-American (ask the Arabs in Russia) that would like to take out anything expressing true freedom. Ask the Danish cartoonist now in hiding. Russia SUPPORTS Iran and other Islamic nations. Someday they will find themselves saying "Oh come on guys! (meaning the rest of the world) They're not THAT bad-- OW!! (suddenly there's a great big hook in their nose) OW OW OW OW OW OW OW OW!!!"

Yah the "trojan" collapse of ones nation is the oldest tricks in the book, and like you say it is evident once you speak to their immigrant minority groups that they are up to something. They like to destroy anything representing true freedom, because members of the Evil Empire love being told what to do, which is the antithesis to "freedom", they adore being subserviant to something/anything. Also good point recomending the advice of Danish cartoonists because if theres one thing they know outside of Denmark, drawing and the muslim response, that thing is the clandestine evil empire lurking within Russia. Also the support for Iran and other Islamic nations is also very damning, any nation that supports countries like Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, or any other nation that provides cheap oil to them must be utterly sinister. After all that, you still manage to hammer the point home with your unintelligeble narative about hooks in noses. Bravo.

You are insane.

Go to Alaska.

Thats a long walk.

ZOMG! :eek:

n00b w0r!!!!

At least the United States has the bald eagle. Now that's a kick ass bird!

We have a lot of them on the island I live on. But, it's not really a US original, it was stolen from NW indian tribes. You can still find the very same style of symbol in NW indian art, though the style is slightly different.

Just one more thing we've stolen from them I guess... sad. :(

Edit: and when you really think about it, the bird itself is actually a scavenger as its primary mode of survival. It's not an exceptional hunter by any means. An interesting window into our country's soul... The turkey would have been a better choice (and was actually the one Ben Franklin advocated)

We have a lot of them on the island I live on. But, it's not really a US original, it was stolen from NW indian tribes. You can still find the very same style of symbol in NW indian art, though the style is slightly different.

Just one more thing we've stolen from them I guess... sad. :(

If we stole it they would no longer have it. "Borrowed", or better yet "preserved" would probably be better. Second, I was under the impression that at the time the ex-colonies adopted the bird they had still not made contact with NW tribes, you know louis and clark and all that.

If we stole it they would no longer have it. "Borrowed", or better yet "preserved" would probably be better. Second, I was under the impression that at the time the ex-colonies adopted the bird they had still not made contact with NW tribes, you know louis and clark and all that.

I was refering to the symbol used as the seal of the country, which is a total knock-off of NW indian symbology.

Why do you feel the need to be a sarcastic bitch?

Nazis has the swastika and Horst Wessel Lied.

Soviets had the Hammer and Sickle and their Hymn.

East Germany didn't have a good symbol, but they had a neat anthem.

Meh. I'll take the Star-Spangeled Banner, the Bald Eagle, and the The Great Seal of the United States.

Meethinks you only think those other nation's symbols are "awesome" because you are in "awe" of their governments.

Nazis has the swastika and Horst Wessel Lied.

Soviets had the Hammer and Sickle and their Hymn.

East Germany didn't have a good symbol, but they had a neat anthem.
That's because being evil is the taboo thing everybody wants in some deep dark little corner. Because creative people tend to keep to their corners, they often confuse the evil corner for the happy corner. Then they birth very attractive things for use by evil.

Hey! Us Aussies have a great symbol and a catchy tune and we're not evil!

At least the United States has the bald eagle. Now that's a kick ass bird!
Nah, shoulda gone with a dragon. Can't go wrong with a dragon.

Soviets had the Hammer and Sickle and their Hymn.Do me a favour K-P, fly this flag for me:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a9/Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg/600px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png

And then sing the patriotic Soviet national anthem...

Hey, the beaver has to come up for air sometimes!
....No, it doesn't....*enters God cheat*

*watches with amusement while this thread sinks into an utterly pointless, yet hilarious debate*
*reiterates previous action*

LOL!

Man, now I really do want to see this fight! We should get a Beaver and a bald Eagle together to see what happens.
I guarantee you the eagle would fly off into a cloud of DDT and the beaver would walk into a bear trap.:headbang:

Yes, they were, and still are, the Evil Empire. Don't let that whole "collapse" of the Soviet Union fool you. The rest of the country is still very organized and Anti-American (ask the Arabs in Russia) that would like to take out anything expressing true freedom.

That reminds of the "Simpsons Tide" episode of Simpsons where Homer is in command of the nuclear sub and Russia thinks that American is attacking. The Berlin Wall shoots up out of the ground, Lenin comes back to life and smashes out of his glass coffin at the Lenin Museum.

Lenin (in a zombie voice): Must Crush Capitalism...

Do me a favour K-P, fly this flag for me:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a9/Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg/600px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png

And then sing the patriotic Soviet national anthem...

Yeah... I'm thinking NO.

That reminds of the "Simpsons Tide" episode of Simpsons where Homer is in command of the nuclear sub and Russia thinks that American is attacking. The Berlin Wall shoots up out of the ground, Lenin comes back to life and smashes out of his glass coffin at the Lenin Museum.

Lenin (in a zombie voice): Must Crush Capitalism...
I make references to that episode a fair bit at school. Nobody ever gets the reference though.

"That's just what we want you to think."

I love when the tanks drive out from the parade floats. Makes it look like the USSR had been preparing for it for years.

Yah the "trojan" collapse of ones nation is the oldest tricks in the book, and like you say it is evident once you speak to their immigrant minority groups that they are up to something. They like to destroy anything representing true freedom, because members of the Evil Empire love being told what to do, which is the antithesis to "freedom", they adore being subserviant to something/anything. Also good point recomending the advice of Danish cartoonists because if theres one thing they know outside of Denmark, drawing and the muslim response, that thing is the clandestine evil empire lurking within Russia. Also the support for Iran and other Islamic nations is also very damning, any nation that supports countries like Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, or any other nation that provides cheap oil to them must be utterly sinister. After all that, you still manage to hammer the point home with your unintelligeble narative about hooks in noses. Bravo.

You are insane.

OW, SNAP!

Hakubulai, YOU GOT OWNED! (http://leo.customer.netspace.net.au/lt/lt-owned-03.jpg)

That reminds of the "Simpsons Tide" episode of Simpsons where Homer is in command of the nuclear sub and Russia thinks that American is attacking. The Berlin Wall shoots up out of the ground, Lenin comes back to life and smashes out of his glass coffin at the Lenin Museum.

Lenin (in a zombie voice): Must Crush Capitalism...
ROFLMAO!

Thats a long walk.
Yes. Yes, it is. :p

I make references to that episode a fair bit at school. Nobody ever gets the reference though.

"That's just what we want you to think."

I love when the tanks drive out from the parade floats. Makes it look like the USSR had been preparing for it for years.

Same here. Nobody gets the reference. The capitalism is always used when people start bashing America, which happens quite alot here in Canada. I used it in history class back in grade 10 and I got kicked out for the rest of the class.

We should pit a beaver against a bald eagle one day and see who would win. My money's on the beaver.hmmm....

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/1800/untitled0fx.jpg

:D

Same here. Nobody gets the reference. The capitalism is always used when people start bashing America, which happens quite alot here in Canada. I used it in history class back in grade 10 and I got kicked out for the rest of the class.
That is when you stand up, look your teacher in the eye, point your finger at him/her in a threatening manner and, say "Quack quack quack."

Go to Alaska.Eh, you don't have to go that FAR. Northwestern BC has lots of eagle sightings there.

I hate to break up the nice little parade you have going here but the nazi's dind't come up with any of their symbols. They stole or borrowed or more aptly put perverted very well established symbols for their own purposes.

The Swastika is thousands of years old and can be found on ancient pottery and even the small lightning bolts and such on the SS helmets are symbols from the occult. Even their cool looking regiment banners (the big posts they hold to show each unit title when they are all organized together in the pictures) are taken directly from the Roman empire. They simply researched crap and duplicated it with new meaning.


Meh. I'll take the Star-Spangeled Banner, the Bald Eagle, and the The Great Seal of the United States.

Meethinks you only think those other nation's symbols are "awesome" because you are in "awe" of their governments.


This also has a lot to do with it. "Evil" powers have always been an interest for people.

I was refering to the symbol used as the seal of the country, which is a total knock-off of NW indian symbology.

Why do you feel the need to be a sarcastic bitch?

I believe Thomas Jeffeson and some other guy, introduced the national seal. Neither had met a NW Amerindian. Further more the eagle is in a pretty generic pose much like the imperial eagle of rome, but I'm sure the Romans were also encroaching on native American property rights. I gues they took out the copyright on "eagle from the front with wings out". The guy who did most of the symbolism (I believe he was the secretary of the treasury) was Jewish; note the Star of David and the fact that the mini-flag shield thing with 13 bars for 13 colonies resembles a menorah, but hey I guess he was kiping that from the 13th Lost Tribe of Israel, the NW Indians. I HAVE been sarcastic in this post; I was not in the last. As for being a bitch, I can think of no reasoned dignified response, so I shall reciprocate in kind: Why do you feel the need to be a nasty felching, PP sucking, beagle raping, cum bubble filled ****?

I hate to break up the nice little parade you have going here but the nazi's dind't come up with any of their symbols. They stole or borrowed or more aptly put perverted very well established symbols for their own purposes.

The Swastika is thousands of years old and can be found on ancient pottery and even the small lightning bolts and such on the SS helmets are symbols from the occult. Even their cool looking regiment banners (the big posts they hold to show each unit title when they are all organized together in the pictures) are taken directly from the Roman empire. They simply researched crap and duplicated it with new meaning.

Yeah, but Nazis have wickid awesome stylisation.

This also has a lot to do with it. "Evil" powers have always been an interest for people.

Bad is good baby! Down with government! :cool:

But yeah, the bad guys do have good symbols and anthems, like this:
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/8682/empirelogo7pt.gif (http://imageshack.us)
...and of course, the Imperial March. Ooooh, how deliciously Evil! :fluffle:

Bad will always prevail because good is dumb.

You know, evil comes in many forms, be it a man-eating cow or Joseph Stalin. But you can't let the package hide the pudding. Evil is just plain bad. You don't cotton to it. You gotta smack it on the nose with the rolled up newspaper of goodness. Bad dog! Bad dog!

You know, evil comes in many forms, be it a man-eating cow or Joseph Stalin. But you can't let the package hide the pudding. Evil is just plain bad. You don't cotton to it. You gotta smack it on the nose with the rolled up newspaper of goodness. Bad dog! Bad dog!

*Has visions of Gravlen smacking Stalin on the nose with a rolled up newspaper*

*Has visions of Gravlen smacking Stalin on the nose with a rolled up newspaper*

He's gonna be sent to Siberia for that for sure.

He's gonna be sent to Siberia for that for sure.

"Bad Stalin! Go to Siberia, and no purges for you tonight!"

"Bad Stalin! Go to Siberia, and no purges for you tonight!"

I was referring to YOU, but your response is so damn funny, I'll let it slide.

"Bad Stalin! Go to Siberia, and no purges for you tonight!"

Stalin was bulimic? :eek:

How'd he keep his lunch out of his mustache?

Stalin was bulimic? :eek:

How'd he keep his lunch out of his mustache?

Well, he always did have the mustache of a titan...
Besides, while normal bulimiacs purge food from their systems, in Soviet Russia food purges YOU. Or something...

*FEAR my righteous rolled-up newspaper of goodness*

Pfft, the British Bulldog beats the Bold Eagle and Beaver.

Interesting fact:

German Eagle after WWII, ie from 1949:
http://www.hmi.de/pr/bildarchiv/hmi/grafiken/logos/giffs_jpeg/bundesadler.gif

German Eagle today:
http://www.onlinewahn.de/adler2.jpg

Someone's gotten fat over the years...:D

Interesting fact:

German Eagle after WWII, ie from 1949:
http://www.hmi.de/pr/bildarchiv/hmi/grafiken/logos/giffs_jpeg/bundesadler.gif

German Eagle today:
http://www.onlinewahn.de/adler2.jpg

Someone's gotten fat over the years...:D

Ach, Herr Adler! You've let yourself go!

Psh, people always talk about empires as if they were bad. Almost the entirety of our race's history was built on an empire of one sort or another. Empires meant progress. :rolleyes:

Oh, and I second that the Turkey should have been the US symbol. Not only is it a tasty sandwhich filling when smoked, it also would have the added effect of being a particularly ridiculous sounding idea, lulling our enemies into a false sense of superiority and security... then we strike! Mwahahaha!

Also the support for Iran and other Islamic nations is also very damning, any nation that supports countries like Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, or any other nation that provides cheap oil to them must be utterly sinister. After all that, you still manage to hammer the point home with your unintelligeble narative about hooks in noses. Bravo.

You are insane.

doesnt the us do that too? not that they arent sinister at all.

doesnt the us do that too? not that they arent sinister at all.

that was sort of my point :)

Fascism: Where we get the cool uniforms!

Yea and don't forget Canada.

Those Canucks and their "Maple Leaf" and "O Canada", you just know their planning something.

Actually, the Canadian flag is quite symbolic:

The white stands for snow. The red blocks on the side stand for the blood shed by the Canadian Army in the First World War.

The Leaf, well, the leaf is the national symbol of Canada.

...yes, I am Canadian.

Fascism: Where we get the cool uniforms!
Fascism made pretty: Starship Troopers!
http://www.starshiptroopers.net/sst_bot2b.gif
http://myhome.shinbiro.com/~COMERAIN/denise/film3/star008.jpg
http://www.propstore.com/images/products/142/sst-femalejkt-dvd2.jpg
http://www.hotflick.net/flicks/1997_Starship_Troopers/997STS_Neil_Patrick_Harris_007.jpg

That reminds of the "Simpsons Tide" episode of Simpsons where Homer is in command of the nuclear sub and Russia thinks that American is attacking. The Berlin Wall shoots up out of the ground, Lenin comes back to life and smashes out of his glass coffin at the Lenin Museum.

Lenin (in a zombie voice): Must Crush Capitalism...

You forgot to add the "Rah! Rah!" part, or maybe it was "Roar! Roar!".

Actually, the Canadian flag is quite symbolic:

The white stands for snow. The red blocks on the side stand for the blood shed by the Canadian Army in the First World War.

The Leaf, well, the leaf is the national symbol of Canada.

...yes, I am Canadian.

Well thank you Mister Canuck, why don't you go suck on some maple sugar?!

(Yes, I am Canadian, from Ontario thus I am a true Canadian!)

Why do all the bad guys have awesome symbols and national anthems?It could be natural selection.

Totalitarian regimes mostly require a certain angst about something, often nationalism, to stay in power. Those totalitarian regimes that survive are good at (among other things: such as busting doors down) making cool things for their populace to "get into it" and join the ranks with their government's cause. Thus, those bad guys that persist and become infamous will, more often than a democratic society, make or choose attractive symbols and anthems.

Democratic societies aren't really going to fall apart if the people aren't arsed about something, or shouting the country's sainthood at every pass. Thus more democratic societies who fail at fashioning of selecting attractive anthems and symbols are not as doomed to hitorical insignificance as a corresponding totalitarian regime that's not good at assigning anthems and symbols and other rituals may be.


It could also be a representation thing. Our brains often see a few unique, striking examples of a certain characteristic and interpret that characteristic as being more widespread than it actually is. For example, if I see ten men dressed like female leprechauns walking down the street in a city of 1 million, statistically, there's no significance (these ten make up a small fraction of 1% of the population). But my mind will easily assign the city as a "freak" city because the event is so striking it gets over-represented in my mind.

Hm. Let's not forget to take the kitsch into consideration as well:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/24/Ceausescu5.jpg
http://www.iisg.nl/~landsberger/sheji/sj-st.html
http://www.iisg.nl/~landsberger/sheji/sj-ssl.html
http://www.iisg.nl/~landsberger/sheji/sj-sgc.html
http://www.iisg.nl/~landsberger/sheji/sj-zsc-a.html

http://www.goodart.org/nzswim.jpg
http://www.goodart.org/nzhorse.jpg
http://www.germaniainternational.com/images/bookssupremartingermany41.jpg
http://www.germaniainternational.com/images/bookssupremartingermany58.jpg
http://www.germaniainternational.com/images/bookssupremartingermany61.jpg
http://www.germaniainternational.com/images/origwagcharcetch05.jpg

That reminds of the "Simpsons Tide" episode of Simpsons where Homer is in command of the nuclear sub and Russia thinks that American is attacking. The Berlin Wall shoots up out of the ground, Lenin comes back to life and smashes out of his glass coffin at the Lenin Museum.

Lenin (in a zombie voice): Must Crush Capitalism...

Eh, with that episode you have to go with:

"You just shot the Captain out of the torpedo tube!" :eek:

I hate to break up the nice little parade you have going here but the nazi's dind't come up with any of their symbols. They stole or borrowed or more aptly put perverted very well established symbols for their own purposes.

The Swastika is thousands of years old and can be found on ancient pottery and even the small lightning bolts and such on the SS helmets are symbols from the occult.


Yeah the version of the swastika with the arms pointing the OTHER way is an aincient symbol of peace and genersal niceness. Hitler specified that he wanted one pointing the opposite way to that, to symbolise the opposite.

Fascism made pretty: Starship Troopers!


SERVICE GUARANTEES CITIZENSHIP!

Fascism made pretty: Starship Troopers!
But remember:
http://blackwednesday.org/images/fascism.jpg

Nazis has the swastika and Horst Wessel Lied.

Soviets had the Hammer and Sickle and their Hymn.

East Germany didn't have a good symbol, but they had a neat anthem.

Well from my point of view they're all good guys, so...

Yeah the version of the swastika with the arms pointing the OTHER way is an aincient symbol of peace and genersal niceness. Hitler specified that he wanted one pointing the opposite way to that, to symbolise the opposite.
Actually, that's coincidence - not purpose. And, in fact, they took their time with regulating it: while most swastikas in existance were his way (and Hitler got them in that form from the Thule Society before him), rallies after 1933 would still show flags with it pointing the other way.

A funny thing I heard was that, when Ribbentrop came a-visiting Moscow, the German flags he was greeted with were only painted on one side - because they were common props from an earlier Antifascist propaganda film.

Nazis has the swastika and Horst Wessel Lied.

Soviets had the Hammer and Sickle and their Hymn.

East Germany didn't have a good symbol, but they had a neat anthem.
It was brought up in... of all places, a Sci Fi Convention.

why?

Because the Good Guys always win. thus the bad Guys get the cool music and symbols. :D

I've actually wondered that before.....the nazi military uniforms were nice looking too. I wish the US-American uniforms looked sharp like that. Our marines uniform isn't terrible (the pants don't match), but the nazi grey officer uniform, seen in "Enemy at the Gates" is cool looking. Great coats are also sweet. Why do the baddies get the good gear?

Well, in the case of the Nazi's it's because thay had Hugo Boss do all the uniform designs.

Well, in the case of the Nazi's it's because thay had Hugo Boss do all the uniform designs.
And I think that Italians had a major fashion designer of their own (I want to say Gucci, but I'm not quite sure) to do their uniforms.
Which would explain why the bad guys look cool: Fashion designers always side with evil.

that was sort of my point :)

ah, righto, wasnt sure.:)

BTW, I always prefered the Internationale to the Hymn of the Soviet Union.

ARISE YE WORKERS!!!!

I love that song, my band will cover it.

And I think that Italians had a major fashion designer of their own (I want to say Gucci, but I'm not quite sure) to do their uniforms.
Which would explain why the bad guys look cool: Fashion designers always side with evil.
:eek: Truly, that would explain a lot of things.
*Adds fashion designers to the Concpiracy List*

I'm looking at you too, Calvin!

At least the United States has the bald eagle. Now that's a kick ass bird!
Weren't we considering this for a flag too?

http://i1.tinypic.com/o8xcva.gif

Nothing says "Back the fuck off" like a rattlesnake and a warning not to fuck with us.

The Swastika is thousands of years old and can be found on ancient pottery and even the small lightning bolts and such on the SS helmets are symbols from the occult.

They took most of it from German culture.

In Germanic/Scandinavian mythology the Swastika is a symbol of Thor's hammer spinning as it flies through the air. It shows up in many cultures, most notably in South Asia, but the Nazis didn't get it there, they got it from their own country's history.

The SS bolts are runes from the ancient Germanic alphabet (also called the Futhark because its first 6 letters are equivalent to F, U, TH, A, R, and K), they are pronounced like the letter "s."

They took most of it from German culture.

In Germanic/Scandinavian mythology the Swastika is a symbol of Thor's hammer spinning as it flies through the air. It shows up in many cultures, most notably in South Asia, but the Nazis didn't get it there, they got it from their own country's history.

The SS bolts are runes from the ancient Germanic alphabet (also called the Futhark because its first 6 letters are equivalent to F, U, TH, A, R, and K), they are pronounced like the letter "s."
Yeah, that just makes it even cooler for those who didn't know. Frankly, I find it much more appealing now that I know some random person in NS General know about the origins of the SS runes and the Nazi Swastika.

They took most of it from German culture.

In Germanic/Scandinavian mythology the Swastika is a symbol of Thor's hammer spinning as it flies through the air. It shows up in many cultures, most notably in South Asia, but the Nazis didn't get it there, they got it from their own country's history.

The SS bolts are runes from the ancient Germanic alphabet (also called the Futhark because its first 6 letters are equivalent to F, U, TH, A, R, and K), they are pronounced like the letter "s."

Well of course they were trying to find the "true" germans. They also found swastikas in Egypt I believe though. They perverted lots of things and even if it did not originate in their area they often pretended it did.

As for the bolts I've heard mean power or something as well. The Nazis were very into the occult and darker ancient rituals.

Yeah, that just makes it even cooler for those who didn't know. Frankly, I find it much more appealing now that I know some random person in NS General know about the origins of the SS runes and the Nazi Swastika.

Honestly I find the connections to the occult to be the most interesting. If you want to learn a little about it start with Himmler and his SS. He was the most obsessed with it from my understanding. It's pretty crazy to learn that it wasn't necessarily just ideological difference and that some of them really were playing around with dark arts and such. They did have the deathshead as their symbol after all. Everyone associates the Nazis with evil and that isn't true of course, the Germans aren't an evil people. But it is very interesting to learn that some of the most powerful men running the whole thing were actually obsessed with just that.

At least the United States has the bald eagle. Now that's a kick ass bird!

Ben Franklin wanted the symbol to be the turkey. He considered the eagle a scavenger...I'm glad he was voted down however.

Weren't we considering this for a flag too?

http://i1.tinypic.com/o8xcva.gif

Nothing says "Back the fuck off" like a rattlesnake and a warning not to fuck with us.

The Gadson Flag does rule but I also like the "Come and Take it" Flag flown during the war for Texas independence.

http://www.allstates-flag.com/flags/af-chron.html

Honestly I find the connections to the occult to be the most interesting. If you want to learn a little about it start with Himmler and his SS. He was the most obsessed with it from my understanding. It's pretty crazy to learn that it wasn't necessarily just ideological difference and that some of them really were playing around with dark arts and such. They did have the deathshead as their symbol after all. Everyone associates the Nazis with evil and that isn't true of course, the Germans aren't an evil people. But it is very interesting to learn that some of the most powerful men running the whole thing were actually obsessed with just that.
Exactly. :rolleyes: :p