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Give me time to invent a time machine, and even that will no longer be a potenial point of agreement :)

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Bad news: You can use mine!

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Always knew there as something suspicious about phone booths :)

And then the Kaiser would invite the Czar to a friendly game of golf. The Czar would score more holes-in-one, Wilhelm would have a fit, and on we go to the next great war, this time to annex Russia. :)

Stranger things have happened. Consider the Battle of Troy. Who'd have thunk that GREEKS would fight over a WOMAN?!? :D

BTW:
It was noted that when Trotsky left for the Revolution that he still owed Joseph, the headwaiter at the Cafe Central for four mochas.

However, this was not theft. He simply declared them "the People's mochas" and went on back to Russia.

Stranger things have happened. Consider the Battle of Troy. Who'd have thunk that GREEKS would fight over a WOMAN?!? :D

Maybe it was a man in disguise? :p

BTW:
It was noted that when Trotsky left for the Revolution that he still owed Joseph, the headwaiter at the Cafe Central for four mochas.

However, this was not theft. He simply declared them "the People's mochas" and went on back to Russia.
Next time I cannot pay for something, I am going to follow that strategy. Yes. It will be the "People's Dom Perignon." The people need to survive after all.

Maybe it was a man in disguise? :p


Next time I cannot pay for something, I am going to follow that strategy. Yes. It will be the "People's Dom Perignon." The people need to survive after all.

This is how the Bolshevik dictators of South and Central American countries get by.

The sad thing is I'm not joking.

Anyone who selects the 2nd or 3rd choices needs to see me face to face so I can deck their anti-semitic ass.


is not believing in the moon landing anti america?
not believing in evolution anti human?
not believing in jesus as the messiah, anti christian?

point is, how is not believing in something some state happened in the past anti-semitic?

This is how the Bolshevik dictators of South and Central American countries get by.

The sad thing is I'm not joking.
Yeah I know. :p The world hasn't really changed much. Tomorrow I shall go for a drive in the "People's Rolls Royce." Seems fitting.

Yeah I know. :p The world hasn't really changed much. Tomorrow I shall go for a drive in the "People's Rolls Royce." Seems fitting.

Damn bolsheviks and their pinko ways.

Damn bolsheviks and their pinko ways.
Heh I am on the way to becoming a fully fledged Libertarian. Time will tell :p So screw them.

Why the fuck is there a memorial in Boston? I thought it happened in Europe. That fact that so many of my fellow Americans are fascinated by this event, but then couldn't tell you who Mao or Pol Pot (who the US inderectly created) are, is a sure sign that something is wrong. Somebody is manipulating the information and our exposure to it, and only the Zionists and the American Military have anything to gain from it.

I'm not sure why it's in Boston exactly, and not, say, New York, but the reason is partly because there's a very large Jewish population in the United States. It's only reasonable that they would want to commemorate the deaths of millions of their fellow Jews. As for why Mao and Pol Pot are not as well known, it's probably because American troops weren't liberating the killing fields of Cambodia, etc, etc.

Although I hardly approve of the entirety of Israel's policies, I don't like it when Israelis and Jews are painted as being part of a conspiracy. It smacks of the Protocols, since most Jews are Zionist in the sense that they support Israel. In any case, half of the mess that's there now is there because the British played a dirty trick and promised both the Jews and Arabs a state in Palestine.

On an unrelated note, I think Israel should deal with Hamas. They should do so firmly, but with a real willingness to work things through. If the Hamas government is at all rational, they will work with Israel. It might actually turn out to be a good thing in the long run, maybe they'll turn legit like the IRA more or less did in Northern Ireland. And although I don't like them, I can understand why Palestinians voted down Fatah. They were incredibly corrupt.

On a slightly different tack:
As for IDF's entire argument, I don't buy it. Because I don't believe Germans are inherently more evil than other people. I also don't buy Goldhagen's argument that there was a unique German anti-Semitism. There were a lot of anti-Semites in Germany, but I doubt most people wanted them killed. The German Jews were the most successful in Europe as a rule from 1870 to the beginning of the Third Reich.

Another reason that it might have been more accepted was that German Jews were a tiny minority in Germany, only about 1% of the population. Most of the Jews that were massacred were in foreign countries. Although I'm still convinced most Germans didn't actively want this to happen, it's a lot easier to justify killing tiny minorities and 'Others' than them. And furthermore, most people knew that disobeying the Reich would bring punishment on them and their families.

And from a vengeance perspective, you could put a pretty convincing argument that Germany and Germans paid dearly for what the Nazis did. About six million Germans were killed in the war and the country was reduced to rubble. Furthermore, it lost significant territory and faced division for 50 years. If you were a believer in divine vengeance, or karma, I'd say that's a pretty heavy dose of it.

Furthermore, I think the Stalinist and Maoists horrors prove that it isn't necessary for people to give their active consent for horrible things to happen. Stalin killed 20 million people, or about 10% of the Soviet Union's population.

In my opinion, saying all Germans are Nazis is like saying all Jews are greedy capitalists who dominate the media and control the United States. Which is stupid. Most Jews do not have any power over either the media or the US government. Most Germans are not, and were not, Nazis.

And I suppose that this contribution is now useless, since the conversation has probably moved on.

About six million Germans were killed in the war...
It was a little bit more than that, but your point stands.

Anyone who selects the 2nd or 3rd choices needs to see me face to face so I can deck their anti-semitic ass.
So it is okay for you to react with violence against someone because they think the holocaust is over exaggerated or didn't happen, but it is not okay for Muslims to react with violence because someone printed some offensive cartoons?

I will hereby never read anything that you ever post this forum ever again. Ever.

Quick question...you do realize that I was kidding and expressing an absurdist view of what Holocaust deniers believe, to wit "The Holocaust never happened and it should never happened again," don't you?

I thought the "DEATH TO NAZI FUCKS!:sniper: " was something of a tip off...

For the record I know the Holocaust happened (because the truth is not an article of faith) and am disgusted by it. Or was it the "DEATH TO NAZI FUCKS!" thing you were upset about? Please explain...