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I was going to save these for The american independance day, but I'd rather post them now. I'm a life long Canadian, as were my parents, and my grand parents. My great grand parents were german. Some where from germany(near as anyone can tell), and the others were Volga Germans from russia.

God Bless America. You are great friends, allies, neighbours. We cant always agree with each other, but the world is a better place with america in it, and we are lucky to have you standing true for our common interests.

heres the articles, both from snopes.com. The first one i had read before but lost, and the second was found on snopes.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/sinclair.asp

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/romania.htm

thankyou very much friend... It is always good to hear encouragement or praise for the cause that is the United States, especially from a Canadian ally. Thank you.

Attention whore, perhaps?

so, not everyone hates us?

This is just tacky.

This is just tacky.
What, that he didn't say "Bush sux!" or "America is teh neu Reich!!!" or some other negative statement?

America is not the Evil Empire, even if we have secretly converted the moon into a giant planet-blasting battlestation... :D

This is just tacky.

He may be laying it on a little thick, but he's right. Our knee-jerk anti-americanism is probably our worst national trait. If we grumble from time to time, it's because we sleep in the same bed, and you're hogging all the covers. But we're in bed with you...

I think it is terrific that someone took the time to give America some praise. Why does someone always have to be the downer with their ridiculous "this is tacky" comments, why not just keep your mouth shut if you have a problem with someone else's words of praise.....

What, that he didn't say "Bush sux!" or "America is teh neu Reich!!!" or some other negative statement?

America is not the Evil Empire, even if we have secretly converted the moon into a giant planet-blasting battlestation... :D
No. It's tacky because it's the same intellectual masturbation that defines values held by the right-of-the-center in the Western Hemisphere.

I think it is terrific that someone took the time to give America some praise. Why does someone always have to be the downer with their ridiculous "this is tacky" comments, why not just keep your mouth shut if you have a problem with someone else's words of praise.....
Because I think they're tacky. As simple as that. Why don't the others keep their mouth shut? All their ideas form around two or three sentences anyway.

Thanks pal. Re-reading those put a bright spot in an otherwise crummy day.

America was a different country in the 40's and 50's. Not to mention we were much more respected then because of our actions in WWII. Since then our governments have shown their arrogant greedy true selves. Isolationism made us less money you know.

Yay! You were born between two arbitrary lines on the continent of North America!

Praise the Lord!

I cannot believe how starved you Yanks are for some love.

Yay! You were born between two arbitrary lines on the continent of North America!

Praise the Lord!

I cannot believe how starved you Yanks are for some love.

I cannot believe how much your anti american bias is showing. You usually do so much better at hiding it.

I cannot believe how much your anti american bias is showing. You usually do so much better at hiding it.
That was anti-American?

That was anti-American?
Leonstein, what he meant to say was that it was un-American. ;)

I cannot believe how starved you Yanks are for some love.

Read about half the threads on the page and you'll stop being surprised.

Read about half the threads on the page and you'll stop being surprised.
Still, does it mean so much to you that reading a tacky (and it was tacky) comment can make a crummy day go better?

Wow, this thread really deteriorated! When people ask why we can't have world peace, just look at how this thread has moved from one neighbor complimenting another to a petty "did so, did not" argument! Lighten up children!!!

As an American responding to the original post-- Thanks!!!!! I must admit when I saw the thread title "From a Canadian to America" I rolled my eyes and prepared to be offended. What a pleasant surprise this was;) I'm glad to know that their are people up north who I can get along with! Thanks friend, and God bless.

DRD

Yay! You were born between two arbitrary lines on the continent of North America!

Praise the Lord!

I cannot believe how starved you Yanks are for some love.

Why is a German living in Australia even commenting on a post from a Canadian to the American people?

Yay! You were born between some arbitrary (no, wait, war torn and ever changing) lines on continental Europe, and now live on a continent colonized by the Brits!

I cannot believe how pretentious some of those Europeans are.

Still, does it mean so much to you that reading a tacky (and it was tacky) comment can make a crummy day go better?

Actually, yes. Now I have at least a glimmer of hope that the world doesn't hate us.

So many threads talk about how stupid, lazy, greedy and war-mongering Americans are. It kinda makes a person feel a little lonely...

Why is a German living in Australia even commenting on a post from a Canadian to the American people?

Yay! You were born between some arbitrary (no, wait, war torn and ever changing) lines on continental Europe, and now live on a continent colonized by the Brits!

I cannot believe how pretentious some of those Europeans are.
Ok, then. Why the fuck is the second article in there? Can I talk about this topic, since I AM ROMANIAN?!

And: It is beside any logic to believe that comments on the tackyiness of right-wing American pride are made from a patriotic European perspective.

Why is a German living in Australia even commenting on a post from a Canadian to the American people?
It's the beauty of NS General. Get used to it.

Yay! You were born between some arbitrary (no, wait, war torn and ever changing) lines on continental Europe, and now live on a continent colonized by the Brits!
And yet, I don't think I ever went out of my skin to be proud of the fact.

Oh, and do you think my "arbitrary lines" was meant to be an insult? Never heard of the word "internationalist" before, have you.

I cannot believe how pretentious some of those Europeans are.
You're working pretty hard to fit people into a mold, aren't ya?

No, no, I need to reprase what I said. I meant in the General forum. A quarter of them talk about how stupid, lazy, greedy and war-mongering Americans are. It kinda makes a person feel a little lonely...
To be fair, most of that is imagined on your part. People complain about the government, about Christian fundies, about various aspects of over-the-top nationalism - but most of the time there are no personal attacks on US-Americans as a whole.

Ok, then. Why the fuck is the second article in there? Can I talk about this topic, since I AM ROMANIAN?!

And: It is beside any logic to believe that comments on the tackyiness of right-wing American pride are made from a patriotic European perspective.

I don't care if you're a Romanian. I don't care for a patriotic European perspective either. I'm not a right-wing American. I don't know why the "fuck" the second article is in there either.

Just thought I would point out the ironic aspects of a European and Australian feeling the need to give their opinions on a post addressed to the Americans from a Canadian.

To be fair, most of that is imagined on your part. People complain about the government, about Christian fundies, about various aspects of over-the-top nationalism - but most of the time there are no personal attacks on US-Americans as a whole.

Yeah, but for some reason it feels like it.

And why do people only complain American Christian fundamentalists. I refuse to believe the the United States is the only coutry that has them. There must be some in other countries, but no one ever talks about them, not even the media. Seriously, are there in any other countries?

[QUOTE=Neu Leonstein]You're working pretty hard to fit people into a mold, aren't ya?[QUOTE]

No, just mirroring your mold that all Yanks are in desperate need of some loving attention. Don't need the attention of anyone but my compatriots, thanks.

I don't care if you're a Romanian. I don't care for a patriotic European perspective either. I'm not a right-wing American. I don't know why the "fuck" the second article is in there either.
Just thought I would point out the ironic aspects of a European and Australian feeling the need to give their opinions on a post addressed to the Americans from a Canadian.

Look, slick: the second article is ROMANIAN. If you as well don't know why it's in there, then do not pretend you can limit access to a Canadian op and obtuse Americans.
What I said is that the European point of view is not voiced by a "patriotic feeling" as the America one is. You seem to assume that, either because it's a comfy thought, or because you just cannot understand the world in any other perspective than that of the Pledge of Allegiance.

Look, slick: the second article is ROMANIAN. If you as well don't know why it's in there, then do not pretend you can limit access to a Canadian op and obtuse Americans.
What I said is that the European point of view is not voiced by a "patriotic feeling" is the America one is. You seem to assume that, either because it's a comfy thought, or because you just cannot understand the world in any other perspective than that of the Pledge of Allegiance.

Look, slick? LoL -- Sorry, just finding this somewhat ammusing that so many people are getting all worked up over a thread on NS. I am well aware of worldly opinions of Americans, and frankly, as I said... I do not care. I have friends from many nations, that for some reason decided to make their way here and work hard to become an American.

For christs's sake, some Canadian guy wanted to say "thank you" to America, and we get some people in here complaining about it? Get off your high horse.

Yeah, but for some reason it feels like it.
I think it might be because generally you might not be used to criticism. There's a lot of flag-waving going on in the States, and a lot of "us vs them" attitude.
Anyways, whatever the reasons, I don't think you can blame me or others who are not impressed with what the USA (which was one of the greatest ideas at the time) has become for your emotions if you read certain arguments.

And why do people only complain American Christian fundamentalists. I refuse to believe the the United States is the only coutry that has them. There must be some in other countries, but no one ever talks about them, not even the media. Seriously, are there in any other countries?
Maybe. But they get laughed at. They don't get listened to, they don't get to do controversy, they don't get to complain about prayer in schools, they don't get to see a President being outwardly religious.
Whatever the reason, as a political force the fundies are much more powerful in the US than they are almost everywhere else (the Vatican excepted perhaps).

No, just mirroring your mold that all Yanks are in desperate need of some loving attention.
It's called hyperbole.

Don't need the attention of anyone but my compatriots, thanks.
Which begs the question why this thread even exists.

I am well aware of worldly opinions of Americans, and frankly, as I said... I do not care.
Man, this is about the wordly opinions on Americans! Where do you think Canada is? Or Romania? That's where the articles come from. For Chrissake.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Exceptionalism

American exceptionalism is the idea that the United States and the American people hold a special place in the world, by offering opportunity and hope for humanity, derived from a unique balance of public and private interests governed by constitutional ideals that are focused on personal and economic freedom. Political science defines it as presence of unique traits in the United States, such as a tradition of individualism, the failure of socialist parties, and high levels of religiosity that do not correlate with national characteristics in communist countries. Some critics denounce it as ethnocentric.

Some interpret the term to indicate a moral superiority of Americans, while others use it to refer to the American concept as itself an exceptional ideal, which may or may not always be upheld by the actual people and government of the nation. Dissenters claim "American exceptionalism" is common ethnocentrism and little more than crude propaganda, that in essence is a justification for a America-centered view of the world that is inherently chauvinistic and jingoistic in nature. Historians and political scientists may use the term to simply refer to some case of American uniqueness without implying that an innate superiority of Americans resulted in the development of that uniqueness.

See, I reckon that is my number one problem with the States. And that's where PNAC and all the rest can be traced back to.

Where is the American who stands up and says "I am not special! I am just a human being, like any other human being. America is just one country, like any other country. And that is how we must live in this world."?

Man, this is about the wordly opinions on Americans! Where do you think Canada is? Or Romania? That's where the articles come from. For Chrissake.

AGAIN, this I understand... I am not defending this article, I just happened across it, and as an American, decided to read it. I am well aware of the location of Canada, as I am a 2 hour drive from Vancouver, B.C.

I just find this all very amusing. It's amusing to me that an Australian and Romanian chose to open it and leave a comment on it declaring how "tacky" it is. The "I don't care" attitude I stated is exactly what it is, I don't care about your opinion, or his opinion, or the opinion of this article. I just find the postings rather amusing.

This article IS NOT on the worldly opinion of Americans, it is a Canadian pointing out articles that show why he is proud to call the United States his neighbor and friend. At no point does the original post ask for your Romanian, or his Australian, opinion of what he stated. It's just a thank you, again, get off it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Exceptionalism



See, I reckon that is my number one problem with the States. And that's where PNAC and all the rest can be traced back to.

Where is the American who stands up and says "I am not special! I am just a human being, like any other human being. America is just one country, like any other country. And that is how we must live in this world."?

Now, what the hell does a Wikipedia article have to do with this posting? Jeeeze, there are far-right Americans that are uber-patriotic just as there are in EVERY nation. You have a problem with us for having some of them? Have a problem with neo-cons and religious fanatics in every nation. Do you have such an issue with the theocratic, terror-funding state of Saudi Arabia, who obviously believe in the superiority of their religion and people, by refering to non-Muslims as infidels?

At no point does the original post ask for your Romanian, or his Australian, opinion of what he stated. It's just a thank you, again, get off it.
Oh, I'm not an Australian. I don't have the citizenship. Legally, I'm a German in self-imposed exile. :D

Anyways, the point is that on NS you will never be able to state anythign blatantly patriotic without being challenged to defend it. That's the way it works, and it's a good thing too.

The OP is shallow, and not even an attempt at starting a debate. So we have to do it for him. It is tacky, and we're free to state our opinion...if I recall correctly, you were the one who criticised me for it first.

I was going to save these for The american independance day, but I'd rather post them now. I'm a life long Canadian, as were my parents, and my grand parents. My great grand parents were german. Some where from germany(near as anyone can tell), and the others were Volga Germans from russia.

God Bless America. You are great friends, allies, neighbours. We cant always agree with each other, but the world is a better place with america in it, and we are lucky to have you standing true for our common interests.

heres the articles, both from snopes.com. The first one i had read before but lost, and the second was found on snopes.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/sinclair.asp

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/romania.htm
Thank you, Notaxia. If I could shake your hand, I would.

Oh, I'm not an Australian. I don't have the citizenship. Legally, I'm a German in self-imposed exile. :D

Anyways, the point is that on NS you will never be able to state anythign blatantly patriotic without being challenged to defend it. That's the way it works, and it's a good thing too.

The OP is shallow, and not even an attempt at starting a debate. So we have to do it for him. It is tacky, and we're free to state our opinion...if I recall correctly, you were the one who criticised me for it first.

So, somewhere stated in the "rules" of threading to this post we must start a debate on it? Well, I will make sure to take note of that for future reference. Never state an opinion of gratitude from one nation to another, w/o expecting some foreign nationals to state it's "obvious" tackiness. NOTED.

Now, what the hell does a Wikipedia article have to do with this posting?
It does, because the arguments both in the OP and the two articles aim at the same concept. And besides, I'm trying to turn this into a serious debate rather than the mudslinging fest it was originally going to be.

Jeeeze, there are far-right Americans that are uber-patriotic just as there are in EVERY nation. You have a problem with us for having some of them?
I have a problem with them running your country, yes.
And besides, the über-patriots ("ü", not "u") in most nations get ridiculed, not elected - so there is something different.

Have a problem with neo-cons and religious fanatics in every nation. Do you have such an issue with the theocratic, terror-funding state of Saudi Arabia, who obviously believe in the superiority of their religion and people, by refering to non-Muslims as infidels?
Obviously.
But then, Saudi Arabia only exists because of US support, if you really wanna go down that road.

Never state an opinion of gratitude from one nation to another, w/o expecting some foreign nationals to state it's "obvious" tackiness. NOTED.
Thank you.

You're working pretty hard to fit people into a mold, aren't ya?
Oh? You mean kinda like you do all the frakking time? Constantly. Without end. To Americans.

This article IS NOT on the worldly opinion of Americans, it is a Canadian pointing out articles that show why he is proud to call the United States his neighbor and friend. At no point does the original post ask for your Romanian, or his Australian, opinion of what he stated. It's just a thank you, again, get off it.
The op invokes a foreign opinion by posting a Romanian article. But that is beside the point, since I can't be prevented from leaving an opinion on it (for the love of God, we all know that posts with other points of view get hijacked by Minutemen). Also, note that the article don't express gratitute (which would be pointless in any case, since addressed to an entire country), but admiration on several counts.
I could play this game myself: where in my posts did I say that I cared about your opinion? I just find it amusing.

It does, because the arguments both in the OP and the two articles aim at the same concept. And besides, I'm trying to turn this into a serious debate rather than the mudslinging fest it was originally going to be.


I have a problem with them running your country, yes.
And besides, the über-patriots ("ü", not "u") in most nations get ridiculed, not elected - so there is something different.


Obviously.
But then, Saudi Arabia only exists because of US support, if you really wanna go down that road.

If you don't like who is running OUR country, then maybe you should apply to become an American citizen, and then you can have some sort of say in who runs it.

It is OUR country, not yours. I did not vote for Bush, I live in Washington state, which is a strongly Democratic and liberal state, but I also realize that in our Republic I am not always going to be happy with who is running it.

I'm aware that our government supports Saudi Arabia and I am aware it is because it is in the best interests of the American people. Well, I am American, that will not change, so if it is in the best interests of "my" people to support Saudi Arabia, then so be it. I was not asking you the rights of SA to exist, I was asking if you are bothered by them as much as the Americans, where we have a right to disagree with our leaders, and they are not?

If you don't like who is running OUR country, then maybe you should apply to become an American citizen, and then you can have some sort of say in who runs it.
Or we do it the American way: we invade you. After all, we know for sure you harbour weapons of mass destruction.

Oh? You mean kinda like you do all the frakking time? Constantly. Without end. To Americans.
Yep, just like that. Except that my molds are a little more multi-faceted than "pretentious Europeans".

Or we do it the American way: we invade you. After all, we know for sure you harbour weapons of mass destruction.

LOL -- Actually, I believe we invented them with the Manhattan Project. Actually, of that I am sure as some of my recent ancestors were killed in the bombing of Hiroshima.

Just so you know, as I already stated, I did not vote for the man running my nation, nor did I vote to go to war.

As far as invading us..... bring it on. ;)

I was not asking you the rights of SA to exist, I was asking if you are bothered by them as much as the Americans, where we have a right to disagree with our leaders, and they are not?
In principle, yes. In practice however, American foreign policy has a much greater impact on my life and that of the rest of the world than Saudi foreign policy (at least in any area that doesn't have to do with oil).

It's always been my policy that in domestic issues of the US, I might leave a comment, but I generally don't get involved in debates. It's just none of my business, nor do I really care.

But when it comes to foreign policy and the relationship of the US with the world, you sure as hell will see me there, trying to get my point across.

And personally, I have a deep aversion to patriotism. To me, it's an appeal to the irrational, animal-like side of the mind, and it is invariably connected with aggression and conflict. When I see a post like the OP, I cringe, because I believe humans should know better than that these days.
And ultimately, it disappoints me when others don't think that way - and worse, they say "thank you", apparently taking credit for something they have had absolutely no influence over and that really doesn't have anything to do with them.

This thread is just oozing with cheese.

Get me some nachos.

I'd like to say thank-you America as well.

Though hearing some praise from Americans to Canada would be pleasant to the ears, I don't think that will happen

In principle, yes. In practice however, American foreign policy has a much greater impact on my life and that of the rest of the world than Saudi foreign policy (at least in any area that doesn't have to do with oil).

It's always been my policy that in domestic issues of the US, I might leave a comment, but I generally don't get involved in debates. It's just none of my business, nor do I really care.

But when it comes to foreign policy and the relationship of the US with the world, you sure as hell will see me there, trying to get my point across.

And personally, I have a deep aversion to patriotism. To me, it's an appeal to the irrational, animal-like side of the mind, and it is invariably connected with aggression and conflict. When I see a post like the OP, I cringe, because I believe humans should know better than that these days.
And ultimately, it disappoints me when others don't think that way - and worse, they say "thank you", apparently taking credit for something they have had absolutely no influence over and that really doesn't have anything to do with them.

Take whatever issue you like with American foreign policy, as many Americans do. Just take in to account, to blanket Americans is exactly the type of blanket statement I made that upset you about Europeans.

I can easily take the "right-wing American" perspective (which you seem to believe most Americans are) and blanket all Europeans as "kow-towing dhimmi'd liberal crackpots with no regards to the reality of the threat of Islamofascism against Western values and civilization" that "will be their own undoing by the rampant invasion of Muslim fundamentalists onto their shores."

OR

I can be a realistic person, not succumb to scare-tactics thrown at me by my national media, and be an informed American.

I choose the latter, but I guess you wouldn't know that, as apparently we all think the same.

I choose the latter, but I guess you wouldn't know that, as apparently we all think the same.
And now I would like you to show me where I might have said such a thing.

Fact is that I don't like patriotism. Fact is also that many (probably most) Americans are patriotic.
So there you have pretty much everything I said summed up in two sentences.

Those aritcles remind me of a chick who was way too into a friend of mine, once. At first he thought it was kind of cool, but then it just got creepy.

Canada's stalking the US!:eek:

And now I would like you to show me where I might have said such a thing.

Fact is that I don't like patriotism. Fact is also that many (probably most) Americans are patriotic.
So there you have pretty much everything I said summed up in two sentences.

Fact is, so are most of the people of the world, we are just the only one's left with any real power to exercise it....

"In any case, governments always promote an official patriotism which has a high symbolic and ceremonial content. It is a logical consequence of the state itself, which derives legitimacy from being the expression of the common good of the political community. National monuments, and veterans days and commemoration ceremonies are typical examples. For various reasons, the government may also launch a ‘patriotism campaign’, to promote identification with the state and its symbols."

The funniest part of this is how so many Americans here are ridiculing their own country! The only reason they even have the right to say such things is because of American Government/Military.

The 2 articles above, although a bit extreme, do present the true reaction of the American government towards all other countries and its people.

Why is america riduculed so badly for being kind and just? I personally say its jealousy, but thats just me

GOD BLESS AMERICA

Well, I couldnt have spoken as a right wing american, I'm not. Nor was either authors of the articles. Perhaps Snopes is, but shes never given any indication.

Neu Leonstein opens his debate by calling me an attention whore. then he states in his next reply....


Yay! You were born between two arbitrary lines on the continent of North America!

Praise the Lord!

I cannot believe how starved you Yanks are for some love.


...and draws attention to the fact that he thinks Canadians are just Americans with frosty nipples. Not so. But its instructive, my fellow Canadians, that some europeans and other people around the world draw no real distinction between the US and Canada.

He also draws attention to the fact that he cannot count. There is only one imaginary border dividing any two countries, Neu Leonstein. Just one. And I wasnt born in the states, if thats what you mean.

While all NSers are free to answer, disagree, whatever, the main point was to show that Americans are not universally despised. Dont ever thing that. I also believe that I rightly pointed out that you can ignore those that state americans are hated because of bush; It goes back way farther than that.

Heres a somewhat famous old song from the 1500's. The brits applied it to the Americans, and gave them a very famous appellation that remains today.

http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/songs/Yankee_Doodle.html

Remember, you might be a Canadian, but you are still an American to some people that cant see the difference, and dont care to.

The funniest part of this is how so many Americans here are ridiculing their own country! The only reason they even have the right to say such things is because of American Government/Military.

The 2 articles above, although a bit extreme, do present the true reaction of the American government towards all other countries and its people.

Why is america riduculed so badly for being kind and just? I personally say its jealousy, but thats just me

GOD BLESS AMERICA

Because without ridicule, and a constant reality-check, we will become exactly what we hated the last 50 years of the last century. I have a profound love of my country, I just don't refuse to see it's flaws. I can be patriotic w/o agreeing with every thing my government decides to do.

Fact is, so are most of the people of the world, we are just the only one's left with any real power to exercise it....
Which wouldn't make it any more right.

But despite what you say, I come from a country where people are not patriotic, and that is a good thing.

[Neu Leonstein] draws attention to the fact that he thinks Canadians are just Americans with frosty nipples. Not so. But its instructive, my fellow Canadians, that some europeans and other people around the world draw no real distinction between the US and Canada.
I'd love you to show me where I said such a thing. I was talking about the various Americans who were rushing in to thank you for something they can not take credit for.

Indeed, I like Canada, and I have been thinking whether that may be a good place to live.

He also draws attention to the fact that he cannot count. There is only one imaginary border dividing any two countries, Neu Leonstein. Just one. And I wasnt born in the states, if thats what you mean.
There are two borders on the North American continent that make up the US (if you discount Alaska, which I did, but which would make it three).

This was clearly a thread about a North American issue, that regarding Canadians and Americans. Somehow, people are taking this as an opportunity for America bashing. How did this become about Nationalism? Maybe it takes someone who lives in North America to understand what the op was getting at, and that is that despite the current political atmosphere, this particular Canadian wanted to let America know, that there are people in the world who still respect and admire the people of the United States.

Making a comment about which 'side of the line' you are on, is a thinly veiled insult. There are actually people who live in those countries, who are usually labelled as being a member of their particular country. Trying to equate the sentiment of the OP with the kind of nationalistic fervor that overtook Europe in the 30's and 40's is kind of a stretch...

There are two borders on the North American continent that make up the US (if you discount Alaska, which I did, but which would make it three).

Pardon, you DID say I was born between two arbitrary lines. Considering that you affirm you didnt mean Alaska and the main body of America, there is some fuzzy logic in whatever you meant. With Alaska i'd have been born between three? Just what did you mean?

In any case, the nature of American soil is such that it contains various disjointed areas, instead of one continuous volume. Alaska and Hawaii would be the best known of these.

Canada, while having no overseas holdings, contains thousands of northen islands, some as large as countries, each having a inclusive border according to international law. This is the one reason we say 'go suck an egg' to 12 nm limits. Patroling those waters would involve more travel in international seas than Canadian waters.

If you do come to Canada, either to visit, or to stay, you will find there is as much or more difference between any two Canadians than between Canadians and Americans. Be welcome, we cherish diversity, even when it causes adversity.

Just what did you mean?
That it is silly for all the Americans here to say "thank you" to your "thank you" for something that pretty much no single person had any influence over, and which, if at all, happened many decades or even longer ago.

I wasn't even concerned with you anymore - I was talking about the responses.