Is Pres. Bush mentally retarded?
Ninja Seniors Citizens
19-02-2006, 17:05
From the outstanding speeches he's given, and by outstanding I mean horrible, some of us, the citizens of the United States, have come to the conclusion that Bush may be mentally retarded...or at least borderline retarded. His references to old adages from Confucious...or proclaiming Saddam Hussein as a state sponsor of terror. Sure Bush graduated from high school and Yale, but things can change...
He has some problem, but what I can't understand, is how the majority of the U.S voted for him.
Mariehamn
19-02-2006, 17:09
He has some problem, but what I can't understand, is how the majority of the U.S voted for him.
The...um...second time around...yes....
Achtung 45
19-02-2006, 17:13
He's dyslexic. And he also has deep psychological troubles that date back to when he was 7 and lost his sister. There are many other factors that contribue to his arrogant personality that I'd have to write an essay about. Also, I'm not quite done reading Bush on the Couch (a psychoanalization of Bush) and The Family, which covers details about the extended Bush family back to Prescott Bush, who invested in companies that supported the Nazis.
EDIT: I think my sig says it all.
I doubt that he's really mentally handicapped in a medical sense. I think the proper term for his condition is intellectual celibacy.:D
According to his supporters - it's all just an act.
To get more votes in the US, it's apparently an advantage to portray yourself as an idiot.
Klitvilia
19-02-2006, 17:17
Everyone i know who voted for him did so because they said he was "the lesser of two evils" :headbang:
i think he's a puppet much like howdie doodie controlled by Rove Chaney and Rice
Also always wonder why an intelligent woman like Laura married such a shmuck.. she didnt need the money either.. my only conclusion he must be good in the sack;)
Mariehamn
19-02-2006, 17:19
To get more votes in the US, it's apparently an advantage to portray yourself as an idiot.
What to choose, an idiot or a poodle? Mejoke.
Minoriteeburg
19-02-2006, 17:21
What to choose, an idiot or a poodle? Mejoke.
I'd go for the poodle, at least the poodle can pee on someone he doesn't like and it would be funny
The Half-Hidden
19-02-2006, 17:23
From the outstanding speeches he's given, and by outstanding I mean horrible, some of us, the citizens of the United States, have come to the conclusion that Bush may be mentally retarded...or at least borderline retarded. His references to old adages from Confucious...or proclaiming Saddam Hussein as a state sponsor of terror. Sure Bush graduated from high school and Yale, but things can change...
No, that just means he's a bad orator. I also think that at times in the 2004 election he played dumb in order to appeal to stupid voters. But no, I don't think he's retarded. He's too sneaky for that.
i think he's a puppet much like howdie doodie controlled by Rove Chaney and Rice
Also always wonder why an intelligent woman like Laura married such a shmuck.. she didnt need the money either.. my only conclusion he must be good in the sack;)
Bush...hehe...
Zero Six Three
19-02-2006, 17:25
What to choose, an idiot or a poodle? Mejoke.
Poodles are french, right? Now I understand..
Achtung 45
19-02-2006, 17:27
No, that just means he's a bad orator. I also think that at times in the 2004 election he played dumb in order to appeal to stupid voters. But no, I don't think he's retarded. He's too sneaky for that.
His actions hint that he may be operating a little below par. Just take a gander through here (http://www.dubyaspeak.com/incidents.shtml), and you'll see what I mean. His entire life, he's acted like he still does now.
Eutrusca
19-02-2006, 17:27
"Is Pres. Bush mentally retarded?"
Perhaps, but it's for certain you are, asking a derogatory question like that. :p
The UN abassadorship
19-02-2006, 17:35
"Is Pres. Bush mentally retarded?"
Perhaps, but it's for certain you are, asking a derogatory question like that. :p
How is it derogatory? The way the man speaks has to make you wonder. I dont think he has completed one speech or press conference with out stumbling over himself like a crackhead with terretts.
Mariehamn
19-02-2006, 17:35
Poodles are french, right? Now I understand..
I never stated that poodles were French. Even though they could very well be French poodles, but I'm sure that there are even British, Scottish, Welsh, and Northern Irish French Poodles.
How is it derogatory? The way the man speaks has to make you wonder. I dont think he has completed one speech or press conference with out stumbling over himself like a crackhead with terretts.
So you judge the intelligence of someone by how they speak? I would hope that you don't vote for the best speaker either, can end up voting for some very bad people that way (hitler, Hitler, HITLER!).
Why does it seem that the same people who think that Bush is an evil genius also think he is mentally retarded?
Achtung 45
19-02-2006, 17:40
How is it derogatory? The way the man speaks has to make you wonder. I dont think he has completed one speech or press conference with out stumbling over himself like a crackhead with terretts.
Nope. Here he talks to reporters without any verbal mishaps.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/01/20040122-5.html
oops, there is one reaaally minor one, but hardly accountable.
Achtung 45
19-02-2006, 17:42
Why does it seem that the same people who think that Bush is an evil genius also think he is mentally retarded?
It's not Bush who's an evil genious. I don't think anyone accused him of being one. It's Karl Rove and the framers of the Bush Administration who are to be accused.
Mariehamn
19-02-2006, 17:43
Why does it seem that the same people who think that Bush is an evil genius also think he is mentally retarded?
*scowels*
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/10/29/bulge/index_np.html
The UN abassadorship
19-02-2006, 17:47
So you judge the intelligence of someone by how they speak? I would hope that you don't vote for the best speaker either, can end up voting for some very bad people that way (hitler, Hitler, HITLER!).
Clearly I wouldnt judge solely on verbal skills, however it is a sign of intelligence(or lack there of). btw, Hilter may have been a bad guy, but he was also fairly intelligent.
Red Sox Nation 06
19-02-2006, 17:54
Because someone isn't the greatest speaker makes them mentally retarded... That's enlightening. Or ignorant. Do we count people who stutter in this category, as well? Moses must've been one hell of a retard in your opinion, huh?
Achtung 45
19-02-2006, 17:59
Because someone isn't the greatest speaker makes them mentally retarded... That's enlightening. Or ignorant. Do we count people who stutter in this category, as well? Moses must've been one hell of a retard in your opinion, huh?
How many times do I have to say that his actions, not only his words prove he's an idiot? Besides, I couldn't care less about Moses.
La Habana Cuba
19-02-2006, 18:07
oh, give it up ,
just another anti President Bush thread,
these kinds of threads are just sick, really sick.
Other than this post, wont waste my time on this thread.
Dark Shadowy Nexus
19-02-2006, 18:10
I can't say that verbal grammor blunders automaticly make him retarded.
Carisbrooke
19-02-2006, 18:11
Originally Posted by Novoga
So you judge the intelligence of someone by how they speak? I would hope that you don't vote for the best speaker either, can end up voting for some very bad people that way (hitler, Hitler, HITLER!).
I think that he Bush) comes across very badly, well at least to me, but to say that its better to vote for someone wo is a bad orator and quote Hitler because he was a good one is silly, are you saying that people who can speak well are all bad in some way?
Well, if Bush is retarded, he's obviously not the evil, lying election-stealing genius war criminal that some people have made him out to be. Kind of shoots down that line of thinking, I would say.
So what is it? Retarded or E.L.E.S.G.W.C?
Teh_pantless_hero
19-02-2006, 18:17
He has some problem, but what I can't understand, is how the majority of the U.S voted for him.
Because 40% of registered and active voters are solidly pro-Republican.
Carisbrooke
19-02-2006, 18:17
ahhh so DUMB people cant be bad? there you see...you are backing up the Hitler thing again....
Red Sox Nation 06
19-02-2006, 18:27
How many times do I have to say that his actions, not only his words prove he's an idiot? Besides, I couldn't care less about Moses.
Having a leader with a spine bothers you? That's just silly, :)
And poor Moses, :( Even if you don't believe in the Bible or God or anything, the ten commandments, divinely inspired or not, are pretty nifty, no?
Achtung 45
19-02-2006, 18:31
Having a leader with a spine bothers you? That's just silly, :)
And poor Moses, :( Even if you don't believe in the Bible or God or anything, the ten commandments, divinely inspired or not, are pretty nifty, no?
Spine? lol, more like ignorant insanity! My life would be no different if the 10 Commandments didn't even exist, so no, it's not pretty nifty. But it does give me something to use whenever Christians blow up abortion clinics.
Cattenacio
19-02-2006, 18:32
I think that the US should be more focused internally now, the war wont save your economical deficit and disaster, although the belic issues were allways of a "business" to the US, cause it could allienate the other countries resources by keeping close relations with their gouvernments.
I'm not anti-US, in fact I'm pro-US, thats because I think that America should resolve their economical problem, because you're One of us(I'm portuguese, and European), and I prefer to see a healthy US than a economically powerful and threatening Iran or a very strange "neutrality" on the behalf of China.
Penetrobe
19-02-2006, 18:34
Clearly I wouldnt judge solely on verbal skills, however it is a sign of intelligence(or lack there of). btw, Hilter may have been a bad guy, but he was also fairly intelligent.
Ya, as demonstrated by the fact that he was rejected from art school, was a total spazz in the military, and how, when the Germans were winning WWII, he decided to take direct control over everything, shift his officers in North Africa around and demanded an invasion of Russia(no matter what his silly little generals said).
Apparently, the way you measure intelligence is how well a man can find a bunch of unemployed, drubnken slobs and get them to riot by saying what they want to hear. Big Eminem fan?
Europa Maxima
19-02-2006, 18:34
http://gprime.net/video.php/presidentialspeechalist
He could be. I mean, "I think that fish and human being can co-exist peacefully." Yeah. I am sure they can. :)
Penetrobe
19-02-2006, 18:38
http://gprime.net/video.php/presidentialspeechalist
He could be. I mean, "I think that fish and human being can co-exist peacefully." Yeah. I am sure they can. :)
That was said at a conservation conference, wasn't it?
So, what would you call it if two different species live in the same enviroment in a mutaully beneficial relationship?
He does make a lot of mistakes, but I don't think anyone here would look all that great with all the press coverage he gets.
And all the things you can make fun of him for, it seems like the things many of his detractors pick just make them look dumb when you analyz the statement.
Red Sox Nation 06
19-02-2006, 18:39
Spine? lol, more like ignorant insanity! My life would be no different if the 10 Commandments didn't even exist, so no, it's not pretty nifty. But it does give me something to use whenever Christians blow up abortion clinics.
It's so cool that you have access to so much more intel than the rest of us, :D How special you must be.
And thanks for the last line, :D It shows what a true stereotyping bigot you must be. So, if that's the case, talking to you would be like walking in circles for the rest of my life, since you lack comprehension, :( I'm really sorry about that.
As for our "economic disaster", we could be total bitches and call in all debt, and cease helping others? That's what society is about these days, anyway. Seriously, how many credit cards do you have? (I've none, personally, ;)) And I don't agree with living in debt, myself, but hey, w/e floats your boat.
Europa Maxima
19-02-2006, 18:39
That was said at a conservation conference, wasn't it?
So, what would you call it if two different species live in the same enviroment in a mutaully beneficial relationship?
He does make a lot of mistakes, but I don't think anyone here would look all that great with all the press coverage he gets.
And all the things you can make fun of him for, it seems like the things many of his detractors pick just make them look dumb when you analyz the statement.
I know. I just found it funny. :p
KooleKoggle
19-02-2006, 18:40
How do you keep a republican busy all day? Put him in a cirle room and tell him to stand in the corner. :D
What's the only way a republican can raise their IQ? Standing on a chair. :D
What's every republican's ambitions in life? To be like Vanna Whit and learn the alphabet. :p
Why Don't republicans have elevator jobs? They don't know the route.
What are the worst six years in a republicans life? 3rd grade!
What do you call 10 republicans standing ear to ear? A wind tunnel
Why is a republican's brain the size of a pea in the morning? It swells overnight
And Last but not least
How many Republicans does it take to change a lightbulb? None, they'll pass a law forcing school children to pray to god to take the dark away :D :D
Arbiters Sangheili
19-02-2006, 18:43
he's nuts and is just scared of what will happen to america's ego if we leave Iraq. he also wants their oil.
I dont support Bush, but I don't think he is as bad as everyone says he is. The only reason everyone makes fun of Bush is because it is in vouge. Its popular to make fub of him, so people do it. People who dont know the first think about politics do it, so it must mean something. When puh comes to shove, he is still the president who (this time) won fair and square. Its not hard to see why he won, Kerry sucks. Since he is our president, and what the rest of the world sees as americas represenitive, i choose to respect him, becuase i respect America.
Otterlands
19-02-2006, 18:46
People voted for Bush because he appealed to the Xtian majority. They heard "I believe in god, and we should bring prayer back into the schools (paraphrasing here)", and they voted for him.
I don't think he's retarded, but I do think he is a complete moron.
Red Sox Nation 06
19-02-2006, 18:47
he's nuts and is just scared of what will happen to america's ego if we leave Iraq. he also wants their oil.
:rolleyes: Yeah, that pretty much sums it up. (your comment)
It's really sad when people just spout propaganda and don't try to think, :(
i dont make fun of him coz its fashionable, theres a difference between fashionable and easy
but there is only one answer to the title...Yes
Eutrusca
19-02-2006, 18:50
[ insulting idiocy deleated ]
Have you always been intellectually challenged, or did you take lessons from Democrats?
The Commie Irish
19-02-2006, 18:51
I'm pretty sure he's dyslexic or something like that, which is a form of mental retardation.
Chiluptiwaschthx
19-02-2006, 18:52
"... is how the majority of the U.S voted for him."
That's actually a common misconception. The percentages you always hear, 51% and 49%, are not out of the total population. It's only out of the people that voted.
Which, although the 2004 election did bring in more votes than the past few have, is still a depressingly small number.
Besides, it's arguable that he cheated the second time, as well.
Markreich
19-02-2006, 18:54
Spine? lol, more like ignorant insanity! My life would be no different if the 10 Commandments didn't even exist, so no, it's not pretty nifty. But it does give me something to use whenever Christians blow up abortion clinics.
Yep. Becuase Christians blow up abortion clinics every second of every day, but don't run soup kitchens or run charities to aid and improve the lives of the poor. :rolleyes:
And, btw, your life would be VERY different. The whole of the planet would be. Christianity was what kept Europe together during the Dark Ages. Without it and the easy commerce and diplomacy the Church enabled, Europe would never have arisen to become the technological and industrial powerhouse it became in the 16th centuries forward.
I'm not saying the Church didn't do bad things too. But on the balance, it's been a MASSIVE positive on humanity.
Penetrobe
19-02-2006, 18:55
I'm pretty sure he's dyslexic or something like that, which is a form of mental retardation.
No, it is different. And, fuck you, I was diagnosed with dislexia. The fact that I have trouble perceiving graphs does not mean that I have an underdeveloped brain. And I'd much rather have that challenge than the foot-in-mouth disease a fool like you seems to suffer from.
I'm pretty sure he's dyslexic or something like that, which is a form of mental retardation.
I'm going to ignore the broader question in this thread (which I think was probably meant tongue-in-cheek, to give the original poster a little credit), just to point out something: Dyslexia is not a form of mental handicap. ("Retarded", besides being derrogatory, is not accurate. People with this disability aren't "slow" to pick things up. They're not capable of picking things up, past a certain level. Someone with a profound mental handicap is not going to learn algebra, no matter how many hours you spend trying to teach them. It would be like calling a blind person "visually retarded".) Dyslexia is a perceptual impairment, rather than an intellectual one. There are famous examples of brilliant dyslexics. These include Picasso, da Vinci, Albert Einstein, Thomas Edison, and Alexander Graham Bell.
Chiluptiwaschthx
19-02-2006, 19:13
I dont support Bush, but I don't think he is as bad as everyone says he is. The only reason everyone makes fun of Bush is because it is in vouge. Its popular to make fub of him, so people do it. People who dont know the first think about politics do it, so it must mean something. When puh comes to shove, he is still the president who (this time) won fair and square. Its not hard to see why he won, Kerry sucks. Since he is our president, and what the rest of the world sees as americas represenitive, i choose to respect him, becuase i respect America.
He's not as bad as everybody says he is?
He managed to get in without a platform.
(Actually, neither party had a platform. Both sides' campaigns, in 2004, were based on mudslinging; however, I don't believe that two wrongs make a right and that something is automatically given validity if enough people do it.)
The man has cut off our ties with the rest of the world, he turned the largest surplus in recent history into the largest deficit in recent history, he invaded Iraq for no real reason, and he pulled out of the Kyoto Treaty, but people voted for him, anyway, because, oh my god, gays are being treated like humans!
He's claimed to be taking orders from the Christian god. Doesn't it bother you that he's made the same claims as the sort of people that blow up abortion clinics, because they think it'll make the world see them as rational and level-headed, and the sort of people that blow up buildings in Israel and Palestine?
Doesn't it bother you that it's looking more and more as though the only thing that allowed 9/11 to happen was the administration's spectacular incompetence?
Doesn't it bother you that his justification for war has gone from "they have weapons and they're pointing right at us" to "they have weapons" to "they have programs for developing weapons" to "they have the intention to develop weapons" to "I just new Saddam was bad"?
I've heard people say that Kerry is a liar, and that he's a douche bag. Fine, but how does that make him worse than Bush?
No. The man does not have so much as an ounce of my respect.
He says "War President" like it's a good thing.
The Black Forrest
19-02-2006, 19:17
No, it is different. And, fuck you, I was diagnosed with dislexia. The fact that I have trouble perceiving graphs does not mean that I have an underdeveloped brain. And I'd much rather have that challenge than the foot-in-mouth disease a fool like you seems to suffer from.
You replied first. I have it as well and I am a WAN engineer....
Penetrobe
19-02-2006, 19:19
You replied first. I have it as well and I am a WAN engineer....
What a coincidence, I'm a LAN engineer.
He has some problem, but what I can't understand, is how the majority of the U.S voted for him.
Because the other canidate was moreso retarded.
Europa Maxima
19-02-2006, 19:20
Because the other canidate was moreso retarded.
I don't know. I found Kerry to be posh and refined, as well as brainy. How was he "moreso retarded?"
Penetrobe
19-02-2006, 19:22
The man has cut off our ties with the rest of the world,
Ya, look at how we have no more diplomats or trade, or conferences or.....wait, all that still goes on.
he turned the largest surplus in recent history into the largest deficit in recent history,
A surplus that may not have existed, based on the tech bubble that was bursting before he got in.
and he pulled out of the Kyoto Treaty,
You mean the treaty the Senate already rejected?
but people voted for him, anyway, because, oh my god, gays are being treated like humans!
Thats it, make the people who disagree with you seem like bigots.
The Waveform
19-02-2006, 19:24
Did Kanye West say he's retarded?
No he didn't.
So it can't be true.
The Black Forrest
19-02-2006, 19:26
What a coincidence, I'm a LAN engineer.
That is funny!
How many users?
Penetrobe
19-02-2006, 19:30
Last project was close to 700.
He has some problem, but what I can't understand, is how the majority of the U.S voted for him.
A little over a fifth of the country voted for him. That's a record, and still depressing, but it still means that only about 20% of the population bothered to get out and vote for him, and a lot of them only bothered because of the fag-bashing referenda on the ballots.
If there hadn't been voter initiatives to amend state constitutions to outlaw gay marriage (and in some cases outlaw private personal contracts to allow gays to have visitation rights in hospitals and share leases and things like that) then we'd probably have Kerry in the White House right now. Intolernace and ignorance are in control of the country, but only because 3/5 of it are too damn apathetic to do anything about it.
Have you always been intellectually challenged, or did you take lessons from Democrats?
While democratic positions might offer you an intellectual challenge Eut, it is the Republican ones that you must actually be intellectually deficient to accept.
The Black Forrest
19-02-2006, 19:34
Last project was close to 700.
Yup. You have to be retarded to be able to run that kind of setup. :p
My company is only 250 but it involves 800 computer in 15 offices world wide.....
While democratic positions might offer you an intellectual challenge Eut, it is the Republican ones that you must actually be intellectually deficient to accept.
Yeah, many of those Democratic policies have worked out so well...just look at the booming economies of Detroit, Philadelphia, and Washington DC.
The Black Forrest
19-02-2006, 19:35
While democratic positions might offer you an intellectual challenge Eut, it is the Republican ones that you must actually be intellectually deficient to accept.
Ewwwww.
That's much better then what I was going to write. ;)
I don't know. I found Kerry to be posh and refined, as well as brainy. How was he "moreso retarded?"
I dunno, his voting anti-gun then hunting with a AK-47 in Ohio for one. He flip flopped and lied on issues. Granted that is what politians do, however it seems like he wasn't even trying to cover it. Thus why he lost the election. Further I think what sucks is that the other side keeps moaning that they lost. GET OVER IT! Deal with it instead of whining like children and further making that party look bad. First thing you might try is don't keep having people like Kerry, Kennedy, and Clinton as some of the upper echellon of that party. How about focusing energy on winning the next election instead of fighting a lost cause and making yourselves look like fools.
Zephorian Anarchy
19-02-2006, 19:49
All that needs to be shown, a little before being president, while he was a govenor.
http://media.ebaumsworld.com/bushuncensored.wmv
Yep. Becuase Christians blow up abortion clinics every second of every day, but don't run soup kitchens or run charities to aid and improve the lives of the poor. :rolleyes:
And, btw, your life would be VERY different. The whole of the planet would be. Christianity was what kept Europe together during the Dark Ages. Without it and the easy commerce and diplomacy the Church enabled, Europe would never have arisen to become the technological and industrial powerhouse it became in the 16th centuries forward.
I'm not saying the Church didn't do bad things too. But on the balance, it's been a MASSIVE positive on humanity.
That's not true. Virtually all societies end up producing some form of unifying religio-political philosophy that unites formerly disparate peoples.
Arabia had Islam. China had Confusianism. The Persians had Zoroastrianism. Even the Vikings were in the process of compiling all the clans sagas and making a unified system of Nordic law when some of the cheifs converted to Christianity and used that. Europe would have unified anyway because of its advances in transportation increasing contact and shared information.
The Black Forrest
19-02-2006, 20:02
Yeah, many of those Democratic policies have worked out so well...just look at the booming economies of Detroit, Philadelphia, and Washington DC.
Yup and the bay area where house selling has reached a 5 year low.
I'm pretty sure he's dyslexic or something like that, which is a form of mental retardation.
Dyslexia is not a mental retardation, it is a learing disorder. There is a big difference. A retardation means that the brain is malformed, You can be very smart and be dyslexic, think before you speak. I am slightly dyslexic yet I am not mentally retarted, adn if I was, that would be ok too. You are an ass hole, even if you did not know the difference between the two, you should not have sadi anything. Now you look like a jerk, is that what you wanted.
P.S. Bush did not cheat the second time. He won, face it. If more people would have voted, he would not have won. I hate when people dont vote who can yet complain about the goverment (like my dad)
Dyslexia is not a mental retardation, it is a learing disorder. There is a big difference. A retardation means that the brain is malformed, You can be very smart and be dyslexic, think before you speak. I am slightly dyslexic yet I am not mentally retarted, adn if I was, that would be ok too. You are an ass hole, even if you did not know the difference between the two, you should not have sadi anything. Now you look like a jerk, is that what you wanted.
So was Einstein. Also, Dyslexia is specific to reading. It just means that the way that person's thinking process works, it makes it more difficult to read. Mental quirks that make it very difficult to read English may have no impact on learning to read Chinese, and vice versa. From the perspective of the dyslexic, it might be the language that is screwed up, not the learner.
Also, those quirks in mental processes might be fantastic adjustments for understanding other things. Like how Einstein's bizarre though process likened being pulled down by gravity at 9.8 m/s squared to being pushed up by an elevator at the same speed. Most people don't think like that, so they're able to change their socks and sail a boat. Einstein had problems with both.
P.S. Bush did not cheat the second time. He won, face it. If more people would have voted, he would not have won. I hate when people dont vote who can yet complain about the goverment (like my dad)
There were tremendous "voting irregularities" in Ohio. Yes, if more people voted he'd probably have lost. But Bush's supporters used some very underhanded tactics to keep the Democratic vote down.
Terrorist Cakes
19-02-2006, 20:49
I'm pretty sure Bush went to the same school as Paris Hilton. They're intellectual equals, in my eyes.
Yup and the bay area where house selling has reached a 5 year low.
Let the non-neoliberal Democrats run the civil rights and social policies, but leave economic issues to the Republicans and neoliberal Democrats...it works, just look at Clinton's policies.
Zatarack
19-02-2006, 20:56
That's an insult to the retarded.
The moment I saw a smiley and Bush in the same title, I knew it wouldn't be good.
Straughn
19-02-2006, 22:47
i think he's a puppet much like howdie doodie controlled by Rove Chaney and Rice
Also always wonder why an intelligent woman like Laura married such a shmuck.. she didnt need the money either.. my only conclusion he must be good in the sack;)
Well, the
"law of averages"
coupled with the one thing he's reported to excel at (that is generally agreed upon),
personal fitness ....
You're probably on to something.
I never f*cked him though. I'm starting to regret not being in the right place at the right time with the right liquor or cocaine, though ... :D
Good Lifes
19-02-2006, 22:49
From the outstanding speeches he's given, and by outstanding I mean horrible, some of us, the citizens of the United States, have come to the conclusion that Bush may be mentally retarded...or at least borderline retarded. His references to old adages from Confucious...or proclaiming Saddam Hussein as a state sponsor of terror. Sure Bush graduated from high school and Yale, but things can change...
I've read that some mental health experts think he has post-alcoholic syndrome. They compare his speech and other mental actions to those he had a Governor and before. Everything has deteriorated.
Straughn
19-02-2006, 22:49
Let the non-neoliberal Democrats run the civil rights and social policies, but leave economic issues to the Republicans and neoliberal Democrats...it works, just look at Clinton's policies.
Very clearly Republicans in charge of economic issues don't work out.
I'm not against the idea of evening it all out though.
Straughn
19-02-2006, 22:50
I've read that some mental health experts think he has post-alcoholic syndrome. They compare his speech and other mental actions to those he had a Governor and before. Everything has deteriorated.
I'm waiting for a few public sneezes where a long string of black mucous comes out. Don't discount the coke.
Straughn
19-02-2006, 22:52
"Is Pres. Bush mentally retarded?"
Perhaps, but it's for certain you are, asking a derogatory question like that. :p
Oh, joy, Oscar Wilde pays a visit and puts us in our place. *shakes head*
This is from a guy who attests to disagreeing with Bush enough to seem unbiased. :rolleyes:
Ga-halek
19-02-2006, 22:54
In addition to his dyslexia, various psychological problems, and aversion to reading (anything except the bible) and thought; I'd say his greatest problem is that his decades of alcohol abuse have given Bush brain damage (sobering up can never undo the physical damage done to the brain by alcohol).
Straughn
19-02-2006, 22:54
Nope. Here he talks to reporters without any verbal mishaps.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/01/20040122-5.html
oops, there is one reaaally minor one, but hardly accountable.
It could be because he was already relatively familiar with the material. He didn't have to practice and get tripped up over all the "specifics" ... note the deferrment to judgment there! Classic. :D
Minarchist america
19-02-2006, 22:56
no
Straughn
19-02-2006, 22:59
Because someone isn't the greatest speaker makes them mentally retarded... That's enlightening. Or ignorant. Do we count people who stutter in this category, as well? Moses must've been one hell of a retard in your opinion, huh?
It's obvious you're new to the forum ... :D
I'll just say this ... wandering in the desert for HOW long? Missed HOW many opportunities for a place to land and provide for his people?
Besides, Moses had help. He was trying to take orders from a sadistic, infantile self-conflictive aberration that doesn't have any particular evidence of existence whatsoever.
Straughn
19-02-2006, 23:05
How do you keep a republican busy all day? Put him in a cirle room and tell him to stand in the corner. :D
What's the only way a republican can raise their IQ? Standing on a chair. :D
What's every republican's ambitions in life? To be like Vanna Whit and learn the alphabet. :p
Why Don't republicans have elevator jobs? They don't know the route.
What are the worst six years in a republicans life? 3rd grade!
What do you call 10 republicans standing ear to ear? A wind tunnel
Why is a republican's brain the size of a pea in the morning? It swells overnight
And Last but not least
How many Republicans does it take to change a lightbulb? None, they'll pass a law forcing school children to pray to god to take the dark away :D :D
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
*FLORT*
Achtung 45
19-02-2006, 23:09
It could be because he was already relatively familiar with the material. He didn't have to practice and get tripped up over all the "specifics" ... note the deferrment to judgment there! Classic. :D
I like how the reporters get pissed off and when Bush asks what they want they reply "An answer...Can we buy some questions?" I can't help but wonder if the WH staff who wrote the transcript just started laughing at the end there.
Straughn
19-02-2006, 23:13
I dunno, his voting anti-gun then hunting with a AK-47 in Ohio for one. He flip flopped and lied on issues. Granted that is what politians do, however it seems like he wasn't even trying to cover it.
Here ya go. Get back when your done figuring out what you meant to say.
http://www.americanprogressaction.org/site/pp.asp?c=klLWJcP7H&b=118263
If needed, i'll set some examples.
Straughn
19-02-2006, 23:15
I like how the reporters get pissed off and when Bush asks what they want they reply "An answer...Can we buy some questions?" I can't help but wonder if the WH staff who wrote the transcript just started laughing at the end there.
I'm sensing more and more of that of late .... like when "ginormous" McClellan had to explain Cheney and the shooting, and why he was wearing an orange tie ... the way he finished off that press statement was *ALSO* classic. :D
Straughn
19-02-2006, 23:17
I'm pretty sure Bush went to the same school as Paris Hilton. They're intellectual equals, in my eyes.
Maybe, but i think it's more a case of Bush cheating by reading over her shoulder during tests.
Since she's not part of an evangelist agenda, you know he wouldn't have actually LISTENED to her ...:D
Straughn
19-02-2006, 23:19
Have you always been intellectually challenged, or did you take lessons from Democrats?
Uhm, review time ...
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10453690&postcount=62
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10454975&postcount=79
To answer the question, to be mentally retarded, you need an I.Q. below 70. Bush's IQ, while allegedly below average, is not sufficiently low to be classed as retarded.
Straughn
19-02-2006, 23:26
:rolleyes: Yeah, that pretty much sums it up. (your comment)
It's really sad when people just spout propaganda and don't try to think, :(
"See in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." - George W. Bush, May 24, 2005 in Rochester, NY
"I trust God speaks through me. Without that, I couldn't do my job." —George W. Bush to a group of Amish in PA, July 9, 2004
Yes indeed it is sad. Even here he doesn't take responsibility for his own stupidity, he's blaming his lack of grasp for the English language on God.
Achtung 45
19-02-2006, 23:31
"See in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." - George W. Bush, May 24, 2005 in Rochester, NY
"I trust God speaks through me. Without that, I couldn't do my job." —George W. Bush to a group of Amish in PA, July 9, 2004
Yes indeed it is sad. Even here he doesn't take responsibility for his own stupidity, he's blaming his lack of grasp for the English language on God.
those are perhaps the two scariest things he's said since becoming president. But when he was Presidential elect (and on several other occassions as well) he said something to the effect of: "If this were a dictatorship it'd be a heck of a lot easier, heh, heh, so long as I'm the dictator, heh!" -- During his first trip to Washington as President-Elect, Washington, D.C., Dec. 18, 2000
Zephorian Anarchy
19-02-2006, 23:33
To answer the question, to be mentally retarded, you need an I.Q. below 70. Bush's IQ, while allegedly below average, is not sufficiently low to be classed as retarded.
True, but also note that he had a C average in high school.
Eutrusca
19-02-2006, 23:35
Oh, joy, Oscar Wilde pays a visit and puts us in our place. *shakes head*
This is from a guy who attests to disagreeing with Bush enough to seem unbiased. :rolleyes:
Roll your beady lil eyes all you like, you frakking neonate. What you think or don't think, or whether you're actually capable of thinking at all, is a matter of total indifference to me.
Straughn
19-02-2006, 23:36
those are perhaps the two scariest things he's said since becoming president. But when he was Presidential elect (and on several other occassions as well) he said something to the effect of: "If this were a dictatorship it'd be a heck of a lot easier, heh, heh, so long as I'm the dictator, heh!" -- During his first trip to Washington as President-Elect, Washington, D.C., Dec. 18, 2000
Yep, that's on the "Bushspeak:The Curious Wit and Wisdom of George W. Bush" album ... which i of course possess.
So is the "humans and fish can coexist peacefully" quote - and MANY others.
I'm waiting for Volume II.
Achtung 45
19-02-2006, 23:38
True, but also note that he had a C average in high school.
And that's after the $500 bribes! :D
Straughn
19-02-2006, 23:39
Roll your beady lil eyes all you like, you frakking neonate. What you think or don't think, or whether you're actually capable of thinking at all, is a matter of total indifference to me.
Yes, as evidenced by your prompt and witty reply (hey, is there a pattern?)
I'm in stitches, woe is me. :eek:
You should be afraid of what i think.
Because i DO. And i VOTE. Unlike a certain farcicle "mandate"-minded faction of miscreants in the U.S., who appear incapable of doing both for fear of missing step with their precious "order".
Imperiux
19-02-2006, 23:40
"Terrorists are hurting our country, and so are we" quote from Big Dubya.
I just feel sorry for all the democrats.
Even though I'm meant to be a Republican.
Okay, I'm a UK Right-winger, USA left winger.
Normality check: I'm here. Check. Potatoes are brown. Check. My sea belt is securely fastened. Check. George Bush is being brown nosewd by Tony Blair. Check. The USA is very nice and friendly, the people, the majority, the ones who are real. Check.
Everything seems perfectly insane. I call bagsy on Iran's Nukes!
Achtung 45
19-02-2006, 23:43
Yes, as evidenced by your prompt and witty reply (hey, is there a pattern?)
I'm in stitches, woe is me. :eek:
You should be afraid of what i think.
Because i DO. And i VOTE. Unlike a certain farcicle "mandate"-minded faction of miscreants in the U.S., who appear incapable of doing both for fear of missing step with their precious "order".
And I like how he never actaully argues. He just makes inflammitory comments and derogatory statements without making any point besides showing his notorious centrism.
But when he was Presidential elect (and on several other occassions as well) he said something to the effect of: "If this were a dictatorship it'd be a heck of a lot easier, heh, heh, so long as I'm the dictator, heh!" -- During his first trip to Washington as President-Elect, Washington, D.C., Dec. 18, 2000
Well, it would be easier for him to put policies in effect if they didn't have to go through a democratic process. It wouldn't be a good thing for all his silly ideas to get put into action though.
The Orion Brigade
19-02-2006, 23:48
He has some problem, but what I can't understand, is how the majority of the U.S voted for him.
He lost both elections.
Imperiux
19-02-2006, 23:48
He has some problem, but what I can't understand, is how the majority of the U.S voted for him.
Maybe it's because he tried to illegalise every democrat he could, then after he got rid of M.Moore's vote, he decided to fix the election by 51%.
God F**K America
Straughn
19-02-2006, 23:48
And I like how he never actaully argues. He just makes inflammitory comments and derogatory statements without making any point besides showing his notorious centrism.
Yeah, i've heard of it ... almost exclusively from him.
To be fair, he does have good points on occasion, but they're usually when he puts the thought into his threadposts first - when he starts them - instead of responses on other people's threads.
I've agreed with him on occasion. I just don't see any semblence of rational thought on this particular topic. If i remember correctly, he took a three-day enforced sabbatical over this kind of issue before ...
(not that i don't dance around that m'self)
Achtung 45
19-02-2006, 23:49
Well, it would be easier for him to put policies in effect if they didn't have to go through a democratic process. It wouldn't be a good thing for all his silly ideas to get put into action though.
Exactly. And that reminds me of this little gem:
"I was disappointed that the Congress did not respond to the $3.5 billion we asked for. They not only reduced the budget that we asked for, they earmarked a lot of the money. That's a disappointment, a disappointment when the executive branch gets micromanaged by the legislative branch."
-- What Dubya refers to as "micromanaging" is actually better known as the "power of the purse", which is part of the American form of democracy, and apparently not a part that Dubya likes, Washington, D.C., Feb. 24, 2003
I think you're mentally retarded you dick. If you're going to say you speak and write 'English' then at least do it properly, don't use Z as an S, you dick
Either that or shut up.
-England
Achtung 45
19-02-2006, 23:53
Yeah, i've heard of it ... almost exclusively from him.
To be fair, he does have good points on occasion, but they're usually when he puts the thought into his threadposts first - when he starts them - instead of responses on other people's threads.
I've agreed with him on occasion. I just don't see any semblence of rational thought on this particular topic. If i remember correctly, he took a three-day enforced sabbatical over this kind of issue before ...
(not that i don't dance around that m'self)
Yeah, and I think you're referring to when he got himself banned for replying to one of my threads. If I remember correctly, it was about Bill O Reilly and him lying.
Straughn
19-02-2006, 23:56
Yeah, and I think you're referring to when he got himself banned for replying to one of my threads. If I remember correctly, it was about Bill O Reilly and him lying.
Didn't he just ENTIRELY skip a reasonable discourse and go right to the swearing? I don't remember any earlier posts on that thread from him - it was the first.
TEH SPOCK
19-02-2006, 23:59
Yes.
The Half-Hidden
20-02-2006, 00:02
Why does it seem that the same people who think that Bush is an evil genius also think he is mentally retarded?
I have never heard anyone call Bush an evil genius. That distinction is usually reserved for Dick Cheney. But after Dick's example of outstandingly poor marksmanship recently, he may just have to settle for being plain ol' evil.
Hitler Cakes
20-02-2006, 00:02
So you judge the intelligence of someone by how they speak? I would hope that you don't vote for the best speaker either, can end up voting for some very bad people that way (hitler, Hitler, HITLER!).
Ah, Hitler was a bad person, but by no means a stupid one.
The Half-Hidden
20-02-2006, 00:04
My life would be no different if the 10 Commandments didn't even exist, so no, it's not pretty nifty.
It probably would, given how much they have influenced Western culture and thinking.
Achtung 45
20-02-2006, 00:06
Didn't he just ENTIRELY skip a reasonable discourse and go right to the swearing? I don't remember any earlier posts on that thread from him - it was the first.
Yes. And it was like the very first reply to the thread too.
Achtung 45
20-02-2006, 00:08
Ah, Hitler was a bad person, but by no means a stupid one.
Well, he did think he could take over Europe while Germany was in a depression.
Straughn
20-02-2006, 00:08
Yes. And it was like the very first reply to the thread too.
Yep, i saw it, and was taken aback a smidge. Must've poked a nerve or something.
it's pretty hard to say what he is, i don't think any of us can really know. but my gut, along with my eyes and ears, tells me he isn't making any of the weighty decissions he's all to content to take credit for. he may have been elected. there are people who admit having voted for him. though i'm a long way from convinced they were the percentage of voters that would have actualy elected him. yes i suspect the election was doctored with too. both of them. there are gullable people in the u.s., but THAT many?
at any rate, i believe it is rumsfield and rove calling the shots, and the mad cowboy is just warming the chair like carl rove's good little puppet poster child that he is.
where cheney fits in i'm less certain other then i think he's pretty much just there for the spoils, i.e. gelder. none of them are innocent of course. but i really just don't see bush as being the brains of that outfit. and appearances aside, there are indeed brains at work behind the scenes of it.
brains with the objective of a dictatorial fanatical pseudo-christian world domination for fun and profit, mostly profit. with control of the planet's remaining oil reserves as a stratigic stepping stone on the way to doing so.
if that sounds too much like some kind of hair brained super conspiracy, bear in mind that the republican convention that renominated him declaired a virtual devine right for american pseudo-conservatives to do so and all but chanted america uber allis.
if i were the rest of the world i'd seriously be considering getting togather and agreeing on some form of containment against the u.s. for the sake of everone else's survival.
maybe a new u.n. charter without the 'security council' and some real teeth to enforce international law.
=^^=
.../\...
Very clearly Republicans in charge of economic issues don't work out.I'm not against the idea of evening it all out though.
It's probably most accurate to say that the Republicans manage their economy well when they actually have to compete with the Democrats, rather than trying to outspend them like a replay of the Cold War.
:mad: The people critizing Prez. Bush in this forum are obviously the retarded ones!
Zephorian Anarchy
20-02-2006, 00:12
:mad: The people critizing Prez. Bush in this forum are obviously the retarded ones!
yes, people with opinions are mentally retarded
Achtung 45
20-02-2006, 00:14
Yep, i saw it, and was taken aback a smidge. Must've poked a nerve or something.
He had probably just finished worshipping Bill in his FOX shrine :p
Straughn
20-02-2006, 00:14
It's probably most accurate to say that the Republicans manage their economy well when they actually have to compete with the Democrats, rather than trying to outspend them like a replay of the Cold War.
Agreed. *bows*
The trick is not to hire anyone into the administration that thinks Cold War budget rationale is the right way to stabilize the economy. It obviously isn't - it's good for the contractors and the corps but it obviously isn't particularly good for the U.S. populace (and taxpayer) in general.
Straughn
20-02-2006, 00:15
:mad: The people critizing Prez. Bush in this forum are obviously the retarded ones!
Oh lawdy! :eek:
Show us the way, then! We're only followers, we're too STUPID to be able to think on our own! It only brings us heartache and confusion! Woe, woe!
The Half-Hidden
20-02-2006, 00:17
While democratic positions might offer you an intellectual challenge Eut, it is the Republican ones that you must actually be intellectually deficient to accept.
Yeah, many of those Democratic policies have worked out so well...just look at the booming economies of Detroit, Philadelphia, and Washington DC.
Aww, not this shit again!
No wait, keep arguing while your two parties with the differences that exist only in your minds, amalgamate officially to give you the one-party dictatorship that you deserve.
Penetrobe
20-02-2006, 00:33
Exactly. And that reminds me of this little gem:
"I was disappointed that the Congress did not respond to the $3.5 billion we asked for. They not only reduced the budget that we asked for, they earmarked a lot of the money. That's a disappointment, a disappointment when the executive branch gets micromanaged by the legislative branch."
-- What Dubya refers to as "micromanaging" is actually better known as the "power of the purse", which is part of the American form of democracy, and apparently not a part that Dubya likes, Washington, D.C., Feb. 24, 2003
Actually, its what is called politcal posturing and, brace yourself......all presidents do it. Even the Democrats.
He didn't get what he wanted, so he tried to put those that wouldn't give it to him in a negative light in front fo the voting public....you know, using democracy.
Like I said, so much shit you can rag on him for, and you pick the worst possible points to go after.
This is why I don't like these Democrat vs Republican discussions. Its all just petty sniping and insulting. All this immature needling has nothing to do with determining whats best for the country or the world, but all about scoring points on the other team. To wave your banners and pom-poms for your guys, no matter how hypocritical and foolish it makes you look.
So, how about this, you act like grown ups and realize that your polital opinions are shaped by the life you lead and what worked for you in your personal exerience? Then, you realize that is how people of differing opinions came to theirs? I hope I'm not asking for too much.
And would people stop calling Hitler intelligent? He was an idiot, a megalomaniac and the reason Germany got into and lost WW2.
The Black Forrest
20-02-2006, 00:53
And would people stop calling Hitler intelligent? He was an idiot, a megalomaniac and the reason Germany got into and lost WW2.
An idiot? Nahhh. Brilliant? Well as an orator.
Hitler was a little more complex then simply being a megalomaniac.
My great-aunt met him once. She said he was a rather charming man and you noticed him when he entered the room. Overall, you liked him.
Penetrobe
20-02-2006, 00:56
An idiot? Nahhh. Brilliant? Well as an orator.
Hitler was a little more complex then simply being a megalomaniac.
My great-aunt met him once. She said he was a rather charming man and you noticed him when he entered the room. Overall, you liked him.
And that has what to with how smart he was? I've seen dogs that went over well at tea parties.
McDonalds Dollar Menu
20-02-2006, 00:58
He has some problem, but what I can't understand, is how the majority of the U.S voted for him.
They didn't. remember all the maulfuntioning ballot machines in ohio? In mostly democratic counties? no doubt countless numbers off votes were lost. and the with absentee ballot confusion, who knows who our president should have been.
McDonalds Dollar Menu
20-02-2006, 01:02
:mad: The people critizing Prez. Bush in this forum are obviously the retarded ones!
well, i guess the definition of "mentally retarted" must have been changed from slowed mental development to people who think for themselves and believe in the separation of church and state.
ok with respect to the developmentally disabled.. and they should be respected, let's just change the title of this thread to is Bush an Idiot..
A joke:
What do you get if you cross a cockroach with G.W. Bush?
Answer: Nothing! There are some things roachs just won't do!
BOOM BOOM:p
Nhovistrana
20-02-2006, 01:17
"Is Pres. Bush mentally retarded?"
Perhaps, but it's for certain you are, asking a derogatory question like that. :p
It's a very derogatory question. My cousin has Down's Syndrome, and I am very fond of him and do not want him compared to such a contemptible human being.
Also, 'retarded' is a derogatory word in my book.
Markreich
20-02-2006, 04:20
That's not true. Virtually all societies end up producing some form of unifying religio-political philosophy that unites formerly disparate peoples.
Arabia had Islam. China had Confusianism. The Persians had Zoroastrianism. Even the Vikings were in the process of compiling all the clans sagas and making a unified system of Nordic law when some of the cheifs converted to Christianity and used that. Europe would have unified anyway because of its advances in transportation increasing contact and shared information.
And Christianity was it for the Occidental world.
Yep. And that's my point. What else could have held Europe together? Nothing. Christianity was the glue.
Re: transportation. Not necessarily. China had the largest trading fleet on Earth in the 1500s/1600s, then went isolationist and destroyed the fleet -- the tonnage of which was not exceeded until World War One. The Aztecs banned the wheel for all but a ceremony. All sorts of things happen for one reason or another.
Gauthier
20-02-2006, 05:44
"Is Pres. Bush mentally retarded?"
Perhaps, but it's for certain you are, asking a derogatory question like that. :p
Sure Forrest, you're not a Bushevik. Uh huh, whatever.
:rolleyes:
Gauthier
20-02-2006, 05:46
well, i guess the definition of "mentally retarted" must have been changed from slowed mental development to people who think for themselves and believe in the separation of church and state.
Nah, they're just following the Orwellian credo of "Ignorance is Strength" to heart.
London Zoo
20-02-2006, 07:02
From the outstanding speeches he's given, and by outstanding I mean horrible, some of us, the citizens of the United States, have come to the conclusion that Bush may be mentally retarded...or at least borderline retarded.
It's taken you guys this long to realise this? Hello! The rest of the world have been saying this for at least 5 years now!
Straughn
20-02-2006, 09:19
ok with respect to the developmentally disabled.. and they should be respected, let's just change the title of this thread to is Bush an Idiot..
A joke:
What do you get if you cross a cockroach with G.W. Bush?
Answer: Nothing! There are some things roachs just won't do!
BOOM BOOM:p
Hahaha!
*FLORT*
That's a keeper.
...in all seriousness, i can see just a *smidge* how someone might think there is a majority of liberal posters here ... it's amazing that the "bitch about Senor Smirkingchimpf*ck" thing doesn't get these threads locked quicker.
I mean, there's definitely delivery of promise here ... :D