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Fundies burn Harry Potter books. If you see some one burning a Harry potter book they are a fundie.

Fundies believe Jesus is coming soon to take them away from this hell hole full of non-believers. As in within the next 10 years or less.

Fundies go to see The Pashion of the Christ as a church. If your church group went to see this movie as a group you are probly a fundie.

Fundies vote for Bush.

Fundies believe that the federal government should turn there belief system into law. That means prisin time for homophilia and fornication a well as other restrictions based on the fundie belief system.

Fundies say things like

Voting for Hillery is a sin. Redemption Tabernacle minister said that on the radio near my area.

Katrina was meant to punish the sinners. Cathlic minister on the radio in my area.

That blasphemous play. A minister on the radio refering to the play Jesus Christ superstar.

What have you heard a fundie say.

No turning to the big retards. Ann Coultier, Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, Fred Phelps, Dr. Luara or any of the nasty charactors you can easily find online. Has to be some one not widely recognised and in your area.

Fundies burn Harry Potter books. If you see some one burning a Harry potter book they are a fundie.

Fundies believe Jesus is coming soon to take them away from this hell hole full of non-believers. As in within the next 10 years or less.

Fundies go to see The Pashion of the Christ as a church. If your church group went to see this movie as a group you are probly a fundie.

Fundies vote for Bush.

Fundies believe that the federal government should turn there belief system into law. That means prisin time for homophilia and fornication a well as other restrictions based on the fundie belief system.

Fundies say things like

Voting for Hillery is a sin. Redemption Tabernacle minister said that on the radio near my area.

Katrina was meant to punish the sinners. Cathlic minister on the radio in my area.

That blasphemous play. A minister on the radio refering to the play Jesus Christ superstar.

What have you heard a fundie say.

No turning to the big retards. Ann Coultier, Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, Fred Phelps, Dr. Luara or any of the nasty charactors you can easily find online. Has to be some one not widely recognised and in your area.


I'm a fundie, and I only voted for Bush once. As for the other things, I've never said them or believed them.

Maybe you think I'm a "fundie" the way that some idiots think you're a "godless heathen atheist".

america is straaaaange...

america is straaaaange...
Yes, I'm the original old man fundie - the guy who played with being homosexual in his youth, who drinks, who has group sex even today, who smokes marijuana even today, and who has killed people in combat.

Who believes in evolution.

And yet I try, in my every day life, to be kind and supportive to everyone I meet (where possible). I'm not Mother Teresa, but I've helped a lot of people (battered women in particular) get up off the ground and get on with their lives without judging them.

I accept that we're all imperfect - even me. I accept that the world is a crazy fucking place. And I go out each day and try to make it a little better. Not by preaching but by doing.

When you see a fundie who is spending all of his time judging homosexuals, etc., they aren't practicing the faith.

Not that they're not "Christian" - just not very good ones.

Yes, I'm the original old man fundie <Snip>In what way are you a fundie then?

In what way are you a fundie then?
I believe in Jesus, and I believe that if we took only what he said (a very fundamental concept), and dispensed with Paul (who just tacked on most of the stuff that non-Christians find repugnant), Christianity, and perhaps the world, would be a better place.

A couple of months ago, a friend and I were wandering around the city late at night looking for a pub or something to eat after seeing a band. We happened to encounter a bunch of fundie Christians having a song and dance routine on the steps of the main train station in the city.

Without even discussing it, our automatic intuition was to get up there and join in. So we did. They tolerated our off-key drunken singing for about a minute before we were dragged away by the head-christian girl.

We then had an hour long theological debate.

Some Tidbits:

Girl: "Islam doesn't exist!"
(I think she tried to justify that one, but I forget how. Eh.)

Girl: "I was a left-wing once until I realised it was a sin!"

Girl: "You will only ever understand if you get on your hands and knees and submit-"
Friend: "My girlfriend gets on her hands and knees and submits."

I'm honestly not making those up...eventually she gave up and realised we were a lost cause. :D

What have you heard a fundie say? Nothing... I don't listen to Fundies.

A couple of months ago, a friend and I were wandering around the city late at night looking for a pub or something to eat after seeing a band. We happened to encounter a bunch of fundie Christians having a song and dance routine on the steps of the main train station in the city.

Without even discussing it, our automatic intuition was to get up there and join in. So we did. They tolerated our off-key drunken singing for about a minute before we were dragged away by the head-christian girl.

We then had an hour long theological debate.

Some Tidbits:

Girl: "Islam doesn't exist!"
(I think she tried to justify that one, but I forget how. Eh.)

Girl: "I was a left-wing once until I realised it was a sin!"

Girl: "You will only ever understand if you get on your hands and knees and submit-"
Friend: "My girlfriend gets on her hands and knees and submits."

I'm honestly not making those up...eventually she gave up and realised we were a lost cause. :Dthen she wasn't a Fundie.. for fundies never give up. they keep going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going...

Nothing... I don't listen to Fundies.
That's why as a "fundie" I don't bother preaching.

I just live my life - and if you like what you see, you might emulate it. Or not.

Free will, you know.

then she wasn't a Fundie.. for fundies never give up. they keep going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going...

Well, it was probably by virtue of the last train of the night arriving.

Or maybe we converted her and she's a filthy commie now. She was kinda hot too.

"All the lawyers should be stood against a wall and shot!"

"All the professors should be stood against a wall and shot!"

"Evolution is an evil idea. God placed the dinosaur bones in the ground in order to lead scientists astray."

"The world can't possibly be that old. [ referring to a comment about "millions of years old ] They can't prove that!"

"God created the world 6,000 years ago, and anyone who says otherwise is just plain evil."

I could go on, but I'm getting a bit ... sick. Must ... not ... puke!

"All the lawyers should be stood against a wall and shot!"

"All the professors should be stood against a wall and shot!"

"Evolution is an evil idea. God placed the dinosaur bones in the ground in order to lead scientists astray."

"The world can't possibly be that old. [ referring to a comment about "millions of years old ] They can't prove that!"

"God created the world 6,000 years ago, and anyone who says otherwise is just plain evil."

I could go on, but I'm getting a bit ... sick. Must ... not ... puke!

LOL :D

I remember when fundie's held mass book burnings in the UK. Good times.

And I nice mad tried to convince me to start going to temple in the food emporium parking lot once. He was pretty mellow though, so I don't hold it against him.

I accept that we're all imperfect - even me.
How very ... modest of you! :D

That blasphemous play. A minister on the radio refering to the play Jesus Christ superstar.
What? I loved that musical! :(

What? I loved that musical! :(
One of my favorites as well.

I believe in Jesus, and I believe that if we took only what he said (a very fundamental concept), and dispensed with Paul (who just tacked on most of the stuff that non-Christians find repugnant), Christianity, and perhaps the world, would be a better place.
See, that's what Fundamentalist should mean. However, people on both sides of the Christian line have redefined what it is to be a "Fundie", such that American Fundamental Christianity essentially refers to the sort of "Convert 'em or kill 'em" Puritanism that was the faith of the original US settlers, which is decidedly not the same as Fundamental Christianity.

Let's see. Here are some gems:

"If we legalized gay marriage, everyone would go gay because there would no longer be any pressure to be straight."

"Gay people choose to be gay because it's considered cool."

On the other hand, I'm not sure if he was really a fundamentalist as he didn't always toe the party line, though he certainly repeated a lot of their claims.

See, that's what Fundamentalist should mean. However, people on both sides of the Christian line have redefined what it is to be a "Fundie", such that American Fundamental Christianity essentially refers to the sort of "Convert 'em or kill 'em" Puritanism that was the faith of the original US settlers, which is decidedly not the same as Fundamental Christianity.If language cared what you thought about it, it'd probably ask you before making changes. That's the way fundamentalist christian is defined now by the majority of people who use the term. Deal with it.

If you used the word 'gay' to mean happiness, would you really expect people to assume that was what you were talking about? No, you wouldn't, because that's not the way it's currently defined. Imagine that.

See, that's what Fundamentalist should mean. However, people on both sides of the Christian line have redefined what it is to be a "Fundie", such that American Fundamental Christianity essentially refers to the sort of "Convert 'em or kill 'em" Puritanism that was the faith of the original US settlers, which is decidedly not the same as Fundamental Christianity.Well excuse me for getting lost amongst the various Christian fringe groups & their terminologies.

Deep K, you sound a lot like a few of my friends. Oddly they'd probably feel pretty offended if someone called them fundamentalists.

Fundies vote for Bush.
I am an athiest an i voted for Bush twice. Other then his religous views and his views on homosexuality i got no beef with him.

Voting for Hillery is a sin. Redemption Tabernacle minister said that on the radio near my area.
This should not only be a sin it should be outlawed.

Well excuse me for getting lost amongst the various Christian fringe groups & their terminologies.

Deep K, you sound a lot like a few of my friends. Oddly they'd probably feel pretty offended if someone called them fundamentalists.
I don't believe for a second that I'm alone.

I go to a church full of people like me.

I believe that the term needs to be taken back - not abused by people who have little compassion for anyone else.

This should not only be a sin it should be outlawed.

Are you...serious?

If language cared what you thought about it, it'd probably ask you before making changes. That's the way fundamentalist christian is defined now by the majority of people who use the term. Deal with it.

If you used the word 'gay' to mean happiness, would you really expect people to assume that was what you were talking about? No, you wouldn't, because that's not the way it's currently defined. Imagine that.
I was merely pointing out that the way Kimchi used Fundamental and Society's definition of it are probably different. But I can understand why you might get confrontational about that; after all, how can you possibly be seen to accept the term Fundamentalist as reasonable? </sarcasm?>

Are you...serious?

I want it to be known i have no problem with a women in charge. I have no problem with a man or women of color be it black brown tan or white being in charge. I just dont think Hillary is a good choice. I don't like this person one bit.

I don't believe for a second that I'm alone.

I go to a church full of people like me.No doubt about it. As I said, a few of my friends have similar views.

I believe that the term needs to be taken back - not abused by people who have little compassion for anyone else.Why would you want to 'take back' the label? Isn't it more handy to have a well-known minority, so you can disctance yourself from it?

No doubt about it. As I said, a few of my friends have similar views.

Why would you want to 'take back' the label? Isn't it more handy to have a well-known minority, so you can disctance yourself from it?

No, I find it insulting and offensive that the term has been taken away by idiots.

I want it to be known i have no problem with a women in charge. I have no problem with a man or women of color be it black brown tan or white being in charge. I just dont think Hillary is a good choice. I don't like this person one bit.

I don't like hamburgers. Therefore, they are a sin and should be outlawed. QED. Let it be known, however, that I have no problem with the cows, pigs, and other animals that contributed to the hamburger, their race, or farm of origin. I simply think that hamburgers suck, and I don't like them one bit. Ban them!

I don't like hamburgers. Therefore, they are a sin and should be outlawed. QED. Let it be known, however, that I have no problem with the cows, pigs, and other animals that contributed to the hamburger, their race, or farm of origin. I simply think that hamburgers suck, and I don't like them one bit. Ban them!

I don't like hamburgers either to do that to a perfectly good piece of beef what a crime.
Jokeing aside it is my opinion and i understand your stance i just don't like her views. I don't like where she stands politicily.

I don't like where she stands politicily.

I don't like where Bush stands politically, or where Hitler stood politically. But I don't think that to support either of them is a sin. It's just wrong. ;)

I was merely pointing out that the way Kimchi used Fundamental and Society's definition of it are probably different. But I can understand why you might get confrontational about that; after all, how can you possibly be seen to accept the term Fundamentalist as reasonable? </sarcasm?>The term doesn't mean anything by itself. Pretending that it represents something it doesn't just because you want it to is pretty stupid though. :p

I don't like where Bush stands politically, or where Hitler stood politically. But I don't think that to support either of them is a sin. It's just wrong. ;)
I know but i can hope and dream can't I.

The term doesn't mean anything by itself. Pretending that it represents something it doesn't just because you want it to is pretty stupid though. :p
Mostly true, though when words themselves represent nothing more than what other people want them to mean, why not play around with meanings? Who are these all-important "other people", and aren't I one of them?

"If we legalized gay marriage, everyone would go gay because there would no longer be any pressure to be straight."

I like that one because it ultimately means they concede that homosexuality is better than heterosexuality, which people have to be forced into.

can I play? please???????????? I go to a fundie church! Please??????????

okay I actually have done a few of the OP's "things fundies do", but not the really weird ones (or at least I think they aren't too extreme)

so yeah.

"you shouldn't let your kids watch Sesame street, Bert and Ernie are gay, it will make homosexuality seem normal to them"

"I got this great new science book for my child it's Christ-centered, it doesn't even mention Darwinism"

I can't think of many more right now, but I will post more when I do think of them.

can I play? please???????????? I go to a fundie church! Please??????????

okay I actually have done a few of the OP's "things fundies do", but not the really weird ones (or at least I think they aren't too extreme)



Did you go to see Passion of the Christ as part of a church group? Did you bring the kids?

Did you go to see Passion of the Christ as part of a church group? Did you bring the kids?
As a secular person, did you go to see Pulp Fiction with like minded people? Did you bring the kids?

Reservoir Dogs?

Did you go to see Passion of the Christ as part of a church group?
my whole Sunday School class went, but we all do a lot of stuff together so I guess so.


Did you bring the kids?
not my kids, but my friend brought her kid (he was 17)

I forgot to mention my mom.

I have to have the house blessed becuase lesbians did evil things in it and brought demons into the house.

Don't play Diablo II in my house it's demonic. It has pictures of demons in it.

Same goes with Ogre Battle.

I don't care if Kevin Trudeau has been to jail or has paid fines to the Fedaral Trade Commision he is still right.

I don't care if people say Rebecca Brown lost her lisince to practice medicine in IL they are just trying to discredit her.

Skull and Bones and other secret evil societies under the illumnati are secretly governing the U.S.A.

"Evolution is an evil idea. God placed the dinosaur bones in the ground in order to lead scientists astray."

"Does that worry anybody else? The idea that God might be fucking with our heads?" - Bill Hicks

<Snip>No, no, that's paranoid delusional behaviour, not Christianity :p

As a secular person, did you go to see Pulp Fiction with like minded people? Did you bring the kids?

Reservoir Dogs?

I wasn't seculer when Pulp Fiction came out as to Reservoir Dogs I know not the movie.

I do however intend to see The Beast when it comes out on 06-06-2006

I love the movie Lawn Dogs.

I wasn't seculer when Pulp Fiction came out as to Reservoir Dogs I know not the movie.

I do however intend to see The Beast when it comes out on 06-06-2006

I love the movie Lawn Dogs.

I don't think the Beast is going to make the release date, they haven't even announced that they finished casting on the website.

I don't think the Beast is going to make the release date, they haven't even announced that they finished casting on the website.
It's only a movie.... (shhhh)

Mostly true, though when words themselves represent nothing more than what other people want them to mean, why not play around with meanings? Who are these all-important "other people", and aren't I one of them?It's stupid because you're trying to make yourself understood to other people, therefore you use the meaning accepted by the general populace. You already know what *you* believe; you must communicate in such a way that they will understand. Otherwise, there's no point in opening your mouth (or typing).

I'm a fundie, and I only voted for Bush once. As for the other things, I've never said them or believed them.

Maybe you think I'm a "fundie" the way that some idiots think you're a "godless heathen atheist".
Indeed, I think that a better word for what he is describing would be "theocrat".

Yes, I'm the original old man fundie - the guy who played with being homosexual in his youth, who drinks, who has group sex even today, who smokes marijuana even today, and who has killed people in combat.

Who believes in evolution.
Are these things sins?

I thought that a Christian fundamentalist was someone who lived according to the literal word of the Bible, and does not accept that the Bible could be either wrong or using metaphors.

Surely a fundamentalist must believe in creationism, because that's what it says in the Bible.

Surely a fundamentalist must believe in creationism, because that's what it says in the Bible.


Go to the New Testament. To make it easier, use a copy that has the words of Christ highlighted in red.

Read only those words.

Once you're done, you'll know what I try to follow.

This should not only be a sin it should be outlawed.
Yay for one-party rule. :rolleyes:

I like that one because it ultimately means they concede that homosexuality is better than heterosexuality, which people have to be forced into.
Good point Fass. To make such a statement reveals that homosexuality is somehow more appealing than heterosexuality. I disagree with that, but hey, a fundamentalist said it, not me!

It's only a movie.... (shhhh)

To be honest I think it'll be a low budget amateur job even if it does come out but it might stir up some debate.

No, no, that's paranoid delusional behaviour, not Christianity :p

Well, it's not like there isn't some overlap there.

I recall my little brother not being allowed to play "Heroes of Might and Magic" at school because you could use armies of the undead or hell. Not that he did, mind you, but the game was banned because you could.

That's another one of those things that both the Democrats and Republicans hate, video games. Have you even seen a law-maker NOT hate XBox or PS2?

That's another one of those things that both the Democrats and Republicans hate, video games. Have you even seen a law-maker NOT hate XBox or PS2?
That's because they had their asses whipped online when they tried to play Halo - and discovered that the people beating them were 12 year olds.

I had a fundi on this forum tell me any child who died before the could talk enough to proclaim their belief in Jesus was going to Hell. It was mandatory to say the actual words.

I had a fundi on this forum tell me any child who died before the could talk enough to proclaim their belief in Jesus was going to Hell. It was mandatory to say the actual words.
And who was that?

And who was that?

It sounds very Catholic, except they just did away with purgatory so they could recruit more in the third world. Just like that.

I believe in Jesus, and I believe that if we took only what he said (a very fundamental concept), and dispensed with Paul (who just tacked on most of the stuff that non-Christians find repugnant), Christianity, and perhaps the world, would be a better place.
AMEN AMEN AMEN!

"Why do women go through so much trouble to have sexy lingerie like that? Nobody is going to see them in it anyway, so as long as it's comfortable, who cares what it looks like?" - My fundy friend speaking about the Victoria's Secrets Fashion Show.

I believe in Jesus, and I believe that if we took only what he said (a very fundamental concept), and dispensed with Paul (who just tacked on most of the stuff that non-Christians find repugnant), Christianity, and perhaps the world, would be a better place.
I would agree with this view too.

Hmmm, what's this "The Beast" movie about. I think I could have some fun with a few of my friends who are fundies by having my B-Day party at the theater and bringing them to this movie. I would tell them we'd be seeing some other movie, of course. As you have guessed, my B-Day this year is 06-06-06.

That's because they had their asses whipped online when they tried to play Halo - and discovered that the people beating them were 12 year olds.

LOL! Imagine that:

***HClinton was headshot by JohnnyKillson's sniper rifle.
***JohnnyKillson says: BOOM, HEADSHOT!
(Cut to Hillary Clinton playing Halo, she immediately starts growling and snarling.)
Bill: Hey, honey, you okay?
Hillary: AAAARGH! (Throws controller to the ground and starts stomping on the XBox.) GOD D*** LAG, YOU LIKE THAT, YOU F***ING LAG!!! I'LL F***ING KILL YOU!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!

/Pure Pwnage reference.

I hear a fundie say something every time I open my mouth, but is this thread about fundamentalism, or fundamentalism where somebody says something ridiculous that often has nothing to do with the Bible and is just some weird thing to say? :/. I mean, I could say some fundamentalist things right now if anybody wants some examples, but I dunno what definition we're using here heh.

I hear a fundie say something every time I open my mouth, but is this thread about fundamentalism, or fundamentalism where somebody says something ridiculous that often has nothing to do with the Bible and is just some weird thing to say? :/. I mean, I could say some fundamentalist things right now if anybody wants some examples, but I dunno what definition we're using here heh.
Well if you're one of those "Katarina was GOOOD's vengeance on the Sodomites & the Negros!" then yea, you qualify.

It sounds very CatholicIt does not sound like a catholic, tyvm. I know I would never say or believe something like that, nor would any practicing one I know. Try again.

"Why do women go through so much trouble to have sexy lingerie like that? Nobody is going to see them in it anyway, so as long as it's comfortable, who cares what it looks like?" - My fundy friend speaking about the Victoria's Secrets Fashion Show.LOL, your friend is a little off I think. :p

It does not sound like a catholic, tyvm. I know I would never say something like that, nor would any practicing one I know. Try again.

Yes, because purgatory was such a nice notion. :rolleyes:

Let's all make up and go back to making fun of stupid people.

Yes, because purgatory was such a nice notion. :rolleyes:We don't think the completely innocent go to purgatory either. Try again, or better yet, wait until you actually know what we think to reply.

We don't think the completely innocent go to purgatory either. Try again, or better yet, wait until you actually know what we think to reply.
Isn't the notion of Purgatory akin to karmic resurrection, until you attain Nirvana?

That's why as a "fundie" I don't bother preaching.

I just live my life - and if you like what you see, you might emulate it. Or not.

Free will, you know.
Somehow, I just don't see the "fundie" in you at all.

Isn't the notion of Purgatory akin to karmic resurrection, until you attain Nirvana?Yeah. You do your time, you go to heaven eventually, with no chance of going to hell.

"Christianity is not a religion."

"Christianity is not a religion."

I like that one :)

i was in a band a couple years ago with some friends called Telepathetic. We'd been around for a little while but we got a new guitarist who was better then me (the guitarist at the time). And then the dudes mom wouldnt let him play for us because the name Telepathetic was close to Telepathic (no shit?) and telepathy was evil and related to the devil...

Somehow, I just don't see the "fundie" in you at all.
It's hard to see that in a forum, because you don't see me living my life.

You don't see me taking women and children into my home, free of charge, because their husbands abused them.

You don't see me spending my money on their clothes.

I don't judge these women for the situation they are in - I help them and ask them what their needs are.

You don't see a lot of the things I do.

I'd rather do the things that make a difference, that Jesus said to do, as opposed to preaching bullshit.

It's pretty "fundamental" to take only what Jesus said - not what anyone else said - and go out and do it.

Yeah. You do your time, you go to heaven eventually, with no chance of going to hell.
In that I see little flaw as a notion.

then she wasn't a Fundie.. for fundies never give up. they keep going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going...
What happened to the firefighting huh?!:p

It's hard to see that in a forum, because you don't see me living my life. <Snip>Admirable as that is, what does it have to do with being religious?

It's hard to see that in a forum, because you don't see me living my life.

You don't see me taking women and children into my home, free of charge, because their husbands abused them.

You don't see me spending my money on their clothes.

I don't judge these women for the situation they are in - I help them and ask them what their needs are.

You don't see a lot of the things I do.

I'd rather do the things that make a difference, that Jesus said to do, as opposed to preaching bullshit.

It's pretty "fundamental" to take only what Jesus said - not what anyone else said - and go out and do it.

Fundies and Fundamentalists are the crazies. People who follow the teachings of Christ are fundamentalists. Note the capitalization. 2 different terms. Like Communism(Crazy USSR and China "Communism") and communism(normal communism).

Fundies and Fundamentalists are the crazies. People who follow the teachings of Christ are fundamentalists. Note the capitalization. 2 different terms. Like Communism(Crazy USSR and China "Communism") and communism(normal communism).
And normal Communism isn't crazy? :)

And normal Communism isn't crazy? :)
As an entire large country, yes, it is. In small groups, no.

As an entire large country, yes, it is. In small groups, no.
Agreed. It's not good as a form of national government, but it works on a local level.

Agreed. It's not good as a form of national government, but it works on a local level.
I presume you're thinking of the kibbutzim of Israel? They have become less communist over the years, IIRC. I'm not sure, so something to look up...

I presume you're thinking of the kibbutzim of Israel? They have become less communist over the years, IIRC. I'm not sure, so something to look up...
They have. I'm not for Communism in any form it comes, unless its utopianism, which cannot be achieved any time soon.

Politicians try to make you worry about games, movies, and music to distract you from any real problems that might be happening.

That's true in both major parties, and even regardless of wether the politicians call themselves "conservative" or "liberal."


They're all assholes, basically.


And one person on the RvB forums went on for hours with the really, really annoying fundamentalist tale about how all modern scientists are evil and just hate christians... so they shouldn't be aloud to be scientists anymore.

*sigh*

Yes, I'm the original old man fundie - the guy who played with being homosexual in his youth, who drinks, who has group sex even today, who smokes marijuana even today, and who has killed people in combat.

Who believes in evolution.

And yet I try, in my every day life, to be kind and supportive to everyone I meet (where possible). I'm not Mother Teresa, but I've helped a lot of people (battered women in particular) get up off the ground and get on with their lives without judging them.

I accept that we're all imperfect - even me. I accept that the world is a crazy fucking place. And I go out each day and try to make it a little better. Not by preaching but by doing.

When you see a fundie who is spending all of his time judging homosexuals, etc., they aren't practicing the faith.

Not that they're not "Christian" - just not very good ones.

Hmmm, "Fundie",.... I dona thinka that means wha u thinka tha means (Spanish accent)

Hmmm, "Fundie",.... I dona thinka that means wha u thinka tha means (Spanish accent)
Isn't it Italian?

I don't believe for a second that I'm alone.

I go to a church full of people like me.

I believe that the term needs to be taken back - not abused by people who have little compassion for anyone else.

A church with pot and group sex?

Isn't it Italian?

nah the guys a spaniard, remember, the "pirate Robinson" has known to many Spaniards to trust (Emigo Montoya?) at his word, but once he swears on his father, wesley trusts him

as to Reservoir Dogs I know not the movie.

Blasphemy!

I'd rather do the things that make a difference, that Jesus said to do, as opposed to preaching bullshit.
Perhaps the most profound offerings by Jesus were the THE BEATITUDES (http://www.pbministries.org/books/pink/Beatitudes/beatitudes.htm). I do believe that those are the fundamental keys to the Kingdom of heaven. In the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus layed out the Christian ethics by which we should live.

It is not what a man does but what he is that is most important.

A church with pot and group sex?

Praise the Lord!

We don't think the completely innocent go to purgatory either. Try again, or better yet, wait until you actually know what we think to reply.

Actually, you did. Until a few months ago, the Catholic doctrine was that unbaptised babies went to purgatory. Meaning that the completely innocent did in fact go to one of the circles of hell for a very blurry reason and an undisclosed period of time. This got the people in South America and Africa - the poor continents where the Catholic church has been taking advantage of the situation and proselytising - quite upset, as they would hate to see it happen to all those babies they've lost in their high infant mortality rates. So what does the Catholic Church do? Simple: It goes out and says: "That purgatory thing? Exists no more. Because we have the power to decide that."

All to boost indoctrination.

Hmmm, what's this "The Beast" movie about. I think I could have some fun with a few of my friends who are fundies by having my B-Day party at the theater and bringing them to this movie. I would tell them we'd be seeing some other movie, of course. As you have guessed, my B-Day this year is 06-06-06.

It presents an alternative atheist theory to the standard 'Jesus was a man and the god bits were tacked on later', instead it argues that Jesus started out as a god concept and the man was tacked on later, in other words Jesus never existed even as a man. Search google if you're interested but I doubt it'll make the release date.

Admirable as that is, what does it have to do with being religious?
He's acting like Jesus, I think.

Fundies and Fundamentalists are the crazies. People who follow the teachings of Christ are fundamentalists. Note the capitalization. 2 different terms. Like Communism(Crazy USSR and China "Communism") and communism(normal communism).
You should use the word "theocrat".

DK is a fundamentalist. He doesn't think that religion should be law. Pat Robertson is a theocrat, He thinks that religion should be law. One can probably be a fundamentalist and a theocrat at the same time, but the two can certainly exist without each other.

Man, after reading through this thread, I'm sure happy to live where I live :eek:.
No fundies to speak of.

Perhaps the most profound offerings by Jesus were the THE BEATITUDES (http://www.pbministries.org/books/pink/Beatitudes/beatitudes.htm). I do believe that those are the fundamental keys to the Kingdom of heaven. In the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus layed out the Christian ethics by which we should live.

It is not what a man does but what he is that is most important.

Ah, so we are to be judged on the basis of those things which are beyond our control, rather than because of the choices we make?

Actually, you did. Until a few months ago, the Catholic doctrine was that unbaptised babies went to purgatory. Meaning that the completely innocent did in fact go to one of the circles of hell for a very blurry reason and an undisclosed period of time. This got the people in South America and Africa - the poor continents where the Catholic church has been taking advantage of the situation and proselytising - quite upset, as they would hate to see it happen to all those babies they've lost in their high infant mortality rates. So what does the Catholic Church do? Simple: It goes out and says: "That purgatory thing? Exists no more. Because we have the power to decide that."

All to boost indoctrination.

I think you are thinking of Limbo. Which also used to be the place the "virtuous pagan" went.

Also, Purgatory is not Hell, it is Purgatory. And it still exists in Catholic Dogma.

Also, in Catholic Dogma, babies aren't "completely innocent" if they are unbaptised since they still have the burden of Original Sin on their souls.

Ah, so we are to be judged on the basis of those things which are beyond our control, rather than because of the choices we make?
Which of "those things" are beyond your control? Perhaps I am misunderstanding your question.

We will be judged on the choices we make.

Fundies believe that they can read the parts of the bible that apply to them and forget the others.

Fundies believe that it is ok to spread hate and hurt in the name of God.

Fundies believe that they are the only true Christians while at the same time behaving in the most un Christlike manner.

I believe I find fundies offensive to both myself and Christ.:mad:

I think you are thinking of Limbo. Which also used to be the place the "virtuous pagan" went.

Also, Purgatory is not Hell, it is Purgatory. And it still exists in Catholic Dogma.

Also, in Catholic Dogma, babies aren't "completely innocent" if they are unbaptised since they still have the burden of Original Sin on their souls.

The first circle of hell is Limbo, limbus patrum as well as limbus infantium. Read up on your Dante. The babies went to hell. I am sorry for the confusion - the Swedish names for the places make them somewhat easy to regard as synonyms - but, you are right - purgatory is better than limbo, actually, as you say, it isn't hell, while Limbo is. So, babies went to hell.

The first circle of hell is Limbo, limbus patrum as well as limbus infantium. Read up on your Dante. The babies went to hell. I am sorry for the confusion - the Swedish names for the places make them somewhat easy to regard as synonyms - but, you are right - purgatory is better than limbo, actually, as you say, it isn't hell, while Limbo is. So, babies went to hell.

But a rather nice part of hell, no?

Certainly better then anywhere on earth.

Also, Dante was not a churchman, and as fantastic as The Divine Comedy may be, it has no impact on Church Dogma. AFAIK the Church has never stated that Limbo is part of Hell, but seperate. It is inaccurate to say that the Church said unbaptised babies went to Hell.

The biggest problem with Fundies is their decision making process. They decide what they believe then look for proof of that decision and totally ignore any proof that goes against that decided belief.

The prime example is the way GW makes decisions. He decides that Iraq has WMD's and needs to be invaded. He asks for all evidence that his premade decision is true and tells advisors he doesn't want to hear anything that says it isn't true.

Yes, this decision didn't have to do with religion. But Fundie is a mindset. Once a person starts making decisions using the Fundie mindset, they make ALL decisions using the Fundie mindset. They decide first, then look only for things that support that decision. Anything else causes cognitive dissonance (conflict in the mind). The last thing they can stand is any such conflict. Everything is Black and White...NO Gray. And 100% of what they allow supports their decision.

Look at all arguements Fundies make---Evolution, Abortion, Other Religions, Music, Sex, Politics............ The decision is made first,

And I'm not just talking about Christian Fundies. The same can be said for Muslim Fundies. And ALL other Fundies.

The biggest problem with Fundies is their decision making process. They decide what they believe then look for proof of that decision and totally ignore any proof that goes against that decided belief.

The prime example is the way GW makes decisions. He decides that Iraq has WMD's and needs to be invaded. He asks for all evidence that his premade decision is true and tells advisors he doesn't want to hear anything that says it isn't true.

Yes, this decision didn't have to do with religion. But Fundie is a mindset. Once a person starts making decisions using the Fundie mindset, they make ALL decisions using the Fundie mindset. They decide first, then look only for things that support that decision. Anything else causes cognitive dissonance (conflict in the mind). The last thing they can stand is any such conflict. Everything is Black and White...NO Gray. And 100% of what they allow supports their decision.

Look at all arguements Fundies make---Evolution, Abortion, Other Religions, Music, Sex, Politics............ The decision is made first,

And I'm not just talking about Christian Fundies. The same can be said for Muslim Fundies. And ALL other Fundies.

This deserved to be quoted.

It presents an alternative atheist theory to the standard 'Jesus was a man and the god bits were tacked on later', instead it argues that Jesus started out as a god concept and the man was tacked on later, in other words Jesus never existed even as a man. Search google if you're interested but I doubt it'll make the release date.


Jesus did exist as a god before he did as a man. His name was Mithra.

"Iron Maiden are the root of all evil"

They burned CDs. Although, since theft is a sin, I hope they paid for them.

The biggest problem with Fundies is their decision making process. They decide what they believe then look for proof of that decision and totally ignore any proof that goes against that decided belief.

The prime example is the way GW makes decisions. He decides that Iraq has WMD's and needs to be invaded. He asks for all evidence that his premade decision is true and tells advisors he doesn't want to hear anything that says it isn't true.

Yes, this decision didn't have to do with religion. But Fundie is a mindset. Once a person starts making decisions using the Fundie mindset, they make ALL decisions using the Fundie mindset. They decide first, then look only for things that support that decision. Anything else causes cognitive dissonance (conflict in the mind). The last thing they can stand is any such conflict. Everything is Black and White...NO Gray. And 100% of what they allow supports their decision.

Look at all arguements Fundies make---Evolution, Abortion, Other Religions, Music, Sex, Politics............ The decision is made first,

And I'm not just talking about Christian Fundies. The same can be said for Muslim Fundies. And ALL other Fundies.

I would agree with all of that, but seriously, evolution is not a fundamentalist standpoint. It's science. Thousands and thousands of scientists all over the world have been working and will continue to work their entire lives in an endless search for knowledge on if evolution happens or not. They are currently ridiculously sure and have more evidence than any one person could ever hope to cover. It seems very, very likely now that evolution is a natural process of all life, like eating and sleeping are natural processess of your day.

my whole Sunday School class went, but we all do a lot of stuff together so I guess so.



not my kids, but my friend brought her kid (he was 17)

That was an 18 over here!

The biggest problem with Fundies is their decision making process. They decide what they believe then look for proof of that decision and totally ignore any proof that goes against that decided belief.
Dude, that's not just religious people who think like that. Most humans do, because we are a generally irrational race.


Such are promises
All lies and jest
Still, a man hears what he wants to hear
And disregards the rest.

"Jesus invented economics." - Christian Fundie

Yes, I'm the original old man fundie - the guy who played with being homosexual in his youth, who drinks, who has group sex even today, who smokes marijuana even today, and who has killed people in combat.

Who believes in evolution.

And yet I try, in my every day life, to be kind and supportive to everyone I meet (where possible). I'm not Mother Teresa, but I've helped a lot of people (battered women in particular) get up off the ground and get on with their lives without judging them.

I accept that we're all imperfect - even me. I accept that the world is a crazy fucking place. And I go out each day and try to make it a little better. Not by preaching but by doing.

When you see a fundie who is spending all of his time judging homosexuals, etc., they aren't practicing the faith.

Not that they're not "Christian" - just not very good ones.

The evolution thing betrays your fundie status. Fundamentalism means that you take the Bible (or whatever else you're a fundamentalist about) literally. You can't be a fundamentalist and believe in evolution any more than you can be a vegetarian who eats meat or receive a "Welcome, just not a peaceful welcome."

That simply isn't what the word means. The bible says the world was created in 6 days and that all the animals of a kind were created at the same time. And no other animals have come along since, and none that existed have ever gone extinct. If you don't believe that, you're not a fundamentalist.

"Jesus invented economics." - Christian Fundie

We all know that was Ingsoc. Right after they invented the plane.

A conversation between myself, Mariehamn, and a Christian Fundie:

CF: The Koran makes no sense, they say the world was created out of blod clots and skin and stuff.
MM: Seven twenty four hour periods is somehow more logical?
CF: Not to mention, their religion changes too, like pagans or something!
MM: Where's Christmas come from?
CF: Jesus' B-day.
MM: Pagan festival.
CF: Oh....

Fundies say the darndest things.

He's acting like Jesus, I think.


You should use the word "theocrat".

DK is a fundamentalist. He doesn't think that religion should be law. Pat Robertson is a theocrat, He thinks that religion should be law. One can probably be a fundamentalist and a theocrat at the same time, but the two can certainly exist without each other.

Probably not really possible to be a christian fundie and a theocrat at the same time. It is possible to be an intolerant hypocritical Christian and a theocrat at the same time, which is what most notable self-proclaimed fundies are, but Jesus said "give unto Ceaser those things that are Ceaser's and give unto God those things that are God's." This was a clear and explicit proclaimation that his followers were supposed to bow to secular authority completly disticnt from religious authority. Theocrats want "God" to receive those things that are both God's and Ceaser's.

Harry Potter books should be burned, but I don't believe in that traitor some call Jesus.

You've probably seen it before but what the hell: American taliban quotes (http://www.reandev.com/taliban/)

The problem is, fundies believe that that's the only way to make a decision. Once most people have their faulty logic made obvious, unless it's done in such a way as to make them seem foolish, will adjust their position.

Here in the US, Bush's supporters believe that Kerry is a "flip-flopper" because when evidence indicates that he should adjust his position he does so. They respect Bush because "if you agree with him or not (whether he's right or wrong) at least you know where he stands." What they didn't like about Kerry was that if new information came along, he might change course to get where he's going. i.e. They explicitly reject fact-based reasoning, not because of where it might lead, but as a morally inferior method of thinking.
This seems to be a widespread issue. Whenever you stick to a position, people will applaud you for not being flexible. I find this idiotic. A person who cannot adjust their opinions to incoming facts borders on idiocy, unless they have good reason to dispute those facts, or the said facts are weak/fallacious.

You've probably seen it before but what the hell: American taliban quotes (http://www.reandev.com/taliban/)

Wow... Just... *shivers*... wow.

Wow... Just... *shivers*... wow.
Are they human? :eek:

Are they human? :eek:

I don't know about that but one of them is currently President of the USA and two of them have been...be afraid...

I don't know about that but one of them is currently President of the USA and two of them have been...be afraid...
I will just say I'm happy I don't live over on that side of the Atlantic. :p Ann Coulter's statements had to be the funniest. As well as the gay is an acronym for Got Aids Yet? :rolleyes:

I will just say I'm happy I don't live over on that side of the Atlantic. :p Ann Coulter's statements had to be the funniest. As well as the gay is an acronym for Got Aids Yet? :rolleyes:

I quite liked Pat Robertson's myself:

"The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians."

"[Homosexuals] want to come into churches and disrupt church services and throw blood all around and try to give people AIDS and spit in the face of ministers."

"[Planned Parenthood] is teaching kids to fornicate, teaching people to have adultery, every kind of bestiality, homosexuality, lesbianism – everything that the Bible condemns."

And especially:

"Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America is now doing to the evangelical Christians. It's no different...More terrible than anything suffered by any minority in history."

"The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians."

"[Homosexuals] want to come into churches and disrupt church services and throw blood all around and try to give people AIDS and spit in the face of ministers."

"[Planned Parenthood] is teaching kids to fornicate, teaching people to have adultery, every kind of bestiality, homosexuality, lesbianism – everything that the Bible condemns."

And especially:

"Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America is now doing to the evangelical Christians. It's no different...More terrible than anything suffered by any minority in history."Hehe. He's an raving idiot. :D I really don't see how people can actually believe that crap. :p

Seen Chick-Tracts (sorry if they have already been mentioned) they are believed by many as well, and their even worse.

One of many wacko things propsed in these things: The Vatican is behind the holocaust and Islam. Erm....?

If you want a distrubing, but at the same time slightly funny read go to www.chick-tracts.com (I think that is the address) then go to products, Tracts and that takes you to a list of them. Then have fun melting your brain trying to work out why people believe that shit.

Seen Chick-Tracts (sorry if they have already been mentioned) they are believed by many as well, and their even worse.

One of many wacko things propsed in these things: The Vatican is behind the holocaust and Islam. Erm....?

If you want a distrubing, but at the same time slightly funny read go to www.chick-tracts.com (I think that is the address) then go to products, Tracts and that takes you to a list of them. Then have fun melting your brain trying to work out why people believe that shit.

I've seen some wacky Chick tracts and I read an article by him explaining that Catholics are vampires but I've never seen those before. I will look into it.:)

On vacation in Virginia with my aunt, uncle and cousins, after a nice trolley tour of Chincoteague, a man came up to my aunt and started raving about how she should not bring my cousin, who is severely autistic, anywhere in public because he was disruptive. Actually, he had quited down after one minute on the trolley and had remained very composed.

My Aunt replied by asking him how he would feel if he was told to keep his children locked up away from society for their entire lives. He stormed away screaming how we did not accept the word of god. To their credit, his family tried to stop him.

Anyway, lesson learned: hide your Kerry/Edwards 04' bumper sticker when driving in the south;)

The biggest problem with Fundies is their decision making process. They decide what they believe then look for proof of that decision and totally ignore any proof that goes against that decided belief.

The prime example is the way GW makes decisions. He decides that Iraq has WMD's and needs to be invaded. He asks for all evidence that his premade decision is true and tells advisors he doesn't want to hear anything that says it isn't true.

Yes, this decision didn't have to do with religion. But Fundie is a mindset. Once a person starts making decisions using the Fundie mindset, they make ALL decisions using the Fundie mindset. They decide first, then look only for things that support that decision. Anything else causes cognitive dissonance (conflict in the mind). The last thing they can stand is any such conflict. Everything is Black and White...NO Gray. And 100% of what they allow supports their decision.

Look at all arguements Fundies make---Evolution, Abortion, Other Religions, Music, Sex, Politics............ The decision is made first,

And I'm not just talking about Christian Fundies. The same can be said for Muslim Fundies. And ALL other Fundies.

This is such an amazingly accurate superb diagnosis that i'm posting it again..well done and thank you. NOTHING MORE NEEDED TO BE ADDED

I would agree with all of that, but seriously, evolution is not a fundamentalist standpoint. It's science. Thousands and thousands of scientists all over the world have been working and will continue to work their entire lives in an endless search for knowledge on if evolution happens or not. They are currently ridiculously sure and have more evidence than any one person could ever hope to cover. It seems very, very likely now that evolution is a natural process of all life, like eating and sleeping are natural processess of your day.

And amen to that too.. am i the only one who finds it a little insulting to God that He is not intelligent enough to have formed it and evolved us as shown in darwin's mountains of evidence?

Of course that would mean that fundis would have to accept we evolved from apes..shock horror, ;-)

Well if you're one of those "Katarina was GOOOD's vengeance on the Sodomites & the Negros!" then yea, you qualify.

Aw man, I don't remember the Bible ever saying that God would personally send all natural disasters our way nor that they'd always hit the mark against specifically "evil" areas, does that mean im not a fundamentalist? :(

And amen to that too.. am i the only one who finds it a little insulting to God that He is not intelligent enough to have formed it and evolved us as shown in darwin's mountains of evidence?

Of course that would mean that fundis would have to accept we evolved from apes..shock horror, ;-)
Technically, since we're tailless primates, we ARE apes.

Theorb, we've cleared this up in this thread multiple times. Different type of Fundie.

ok now thats settled you wanna tell the fundis or should i? :p

The biggest problem with Fundies is their decision making process. They decide what they believe then look for proof of that decision and totally ignore any proof that goes against that decided belief.

The prime example is the way GW makes decisions. He decides that Iraq has WMD's and needs to be invaded. He asks for all evidence that his premade decision is true and tells advisors he doesn't want to hear anything that says it isn't true.

Yes, this decision didn't have to do with religion. But Fundie is a mindset. Once a person starts making decisions using the Fundie mindset, they make ALL decisions using the Fundie mindset. They decide first, then look only for things that support that decision. Anything else causes cognitive dissonance (conflict in the mind). The last thing they can stand is any such conflict. Everything is Black and White...NO Gray. And 100% of what they allow supports their decision.

Look at all arguements Fundies make---Evolution, Abortion, Other Religions, Music, Sex, Politics............ The decision is made first,

And I'm not just talking about Christian Fundies. The same can be said for Muslim Fundies. And ALL other Fundies.

Quoted for truth. I'm going to go further and say that the lack of grey in a fundamentalist's mind is a direct result of a belief in a literal, absolute, unalterable truth - the fundamentalist bases his/her worldview around a completely different set of axioms than relativists, and nothing short of an internal sea change is going to change that. As such, perhaps "literalist" is a better term for someone with the Fundie mindset.

"gross generalizations are cruel and unkind."

Quoted for truth. I'm going to go further and say that the lack of grey in a fundamentalist's mind is a direct result of a belief in a literal, absolute, unalterable truth - the fundamentalist bases his/her worldview around a completely different set of axioms than relativists, and nothing short of an internal sea change is going to change that. As such, perhaps "literalist" is a better term for someone with the Fundie mindset.Funny, I always wanted a pair of those sunglasses* Douglas Adams invented. Little did I realise one can simply have a brain that works like that.


*Turns opaque when confronted with an ugly/scary/dangerous situation

Probably not really possible to be a christian fundie and a theocrat at the same time. It is possible to be an intolerant hypocritical Christian and a theocrat at the same time, which is what most notable self-proclaimed fundies are, but Jesus said "give unto Ceaser those things that are Ceaser's and give unto God those things that are God's." This was a clear and explicit proclaimation that his followers were supposed to bow to secular authority completly disticnt from religious authority. Theocrats want "God" to receive those things that are both God's and Ceaser's.
I don't know. I'm just an atheist. I'm not going to press the point.

I don't know about that but one of them is currently President of the USA and two of them have been...be afraid...
I think that the picture they chose for George Bush Senior is just so funny!

(And is "JB Stoner" a real name???)

Mind you, a lot of those people are not really comparable to each other. It's not fitting to put guys like Bush, who just exploit religious rhetoric for political gain, next to actual theocratic maniacs such as Fred Phelps.

"Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America is now doing to the evangelical Christians. It's no different...More terrible than anything suffered by any minority in history."
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! !!!!!!

There's nothing you can really say to that one but to laugh at it.

For those that like to read. I would recommend "Our Endangered Values" by Jimmy Carter. He started out as a Fundie then became a Nuclear Engineer. He talks about the movement from Fundie to the balance between his deep religion and his knowledge of science.

I quite liked Pat Robertson's myself:

"The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians."

"[Homosexuals] want to come into churches and disrupt church services and throw blood all around and try to give people AIDS and spit in the face of ministers."

"[Planned Parenthood] is teaching kids to fornicate, teaching people to have adultery, every kind of bestiality, homosexuality, lesbianism – everything that the Bible condemns."

And especially:

"Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America is now doing to the evangelical Christians. It's no different...More terrible than anything suffered by any minority in history."
OMG. Do they themselves believe this? I don't think they do. They don't seem stupid enough to. In my view, they use this to indoctrinate the masses into bringing about their idealised vision of the world. Even if they realise that intellectually some of their propositions are based on fallacious reasoning.

Funny, I always wanted a pair of those sunglasses* Douglas Adams invented. Little did I realise one can simply have a brain that works like that.


*Turns opaque when confronted with an ugly/scary/dangerous situation

Gah, I don't have The Ultimate Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy with me at the moment, so I can't just pull up the full name of said sunglasses. I'll just make do with the Somebody Else's Problem field. ;)

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That said, George Orwell rather accurately described the mental techniques that literalists use to block out unwanted information. Crimestop, doublethink, and blackwhite, anyone? (I figure that it's safe enough to post the relevant terms, seeing as they aren't huge storyline spoilers... no, wait, I'll use white text just to be safe.)

"There is only one way to get rid of nuclear weapons... use them"

Actually, that's quite a penetrating comment... don't know how Rush Limbaugh meant it though.

Aw man, I don't remember the Bible ever saying that God would personally send all natural disasters our way nor that they'd always hit the mark against specifically "evil" areas, does that mean im not a fundamentalist? :(


Yup not a fundie

Yup not a fundie

aww :D

"There is only one way to get rid of nuclear weapons... use them"

Actually, that's quite a penetrating comment... don't know how Rush Limbaugh meant it though.

The addition of Rush Limaugh to the taliban list has me scratching my head.

Sure Rush likes to expose the extremists amongst the left and try to suggest that those extremists are representitive of the left but he dosn't seam as malevilent as many of the others on the list.

"There is only one way to get rid of nuclear weapons... use them"

Actually, that's quite a penetrating comment... don't know how Rush Limbaugh meant it though.

What are you nuts? Using nuclear weapons for the sake of getting rid of them is dumb. The WHOLE FRICKIN' REASON WE WANT TO GET RID OF THEM IS BECAUSE WE DO NOT WANT TO USE THEM.

What are you nuts? Using nuclear weapons for the sake of getting rid of them is dumb. The WHOLE FRICKIN' REASON WE WANT TO GET RID OF THEM IS BECAUSE WE DO NOT WANT TO USE THEM.

But it's still dependant on the context of said statement.

Was he refering to some disaming treaty where one side was suspected of being dishonest.

Was he refering to just giving up our nucleur arms?

I'm pretty sure it was meant as hyperbole.

He may likely have said the statement to suggest it's better to have them just in case and I don't think he was to off base with that idea that is if he was off base at all.